[Tango-L] "Alternative" Music....

[El Mundo del Tango]

Hi Kat..You seem to be implying that EVERYTHING is Tango. Then......
Why do we call it "Tango"?..Why are we compulsively addicted to it?
Why do we take "Tango" lessons or workshops or fly to festivals to dance?
Why do we keep buying "Tango "shoes and cds? Why do we decide whether or not 
to go to a certain milonga merely on the basis of who the Dj is?
Because the music and the dance do not matter as long as we accept it as 
"evolution of Tango"? I don't think so.
I don't have a problem with alternative milongas. I go and I have fun.
But I do not think of it of "dancing Tango". I know something is missing.
If you want to call it "Alternative music for dancing Tango" or "Alternative 
milonga",
that is fine with me.
 But "nuevo"? , "contemporary"? "Neo"? "Argentine"???????(you must be 
kidding!!)
No way. It has to be Tango in the first place before it can be any of those.
Ignoring this common sense approach only means that you wish to present 
yourself
as "evolved" , "avant garde" and down that path you have no trouble with 
insulting and ignoring history, art, culture, traditions and people who 
created this music and dance for you to love, but NOT for you to claim.

Gabriel

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kat" <hellkat_13 at yahoo.com>
To: <tango-l at mit.edu>
Sent: Friday, February 23, 2007 11:30 AM
Subject: Re: [Tango-L] "Alternative" Music....


> Nina,
>
> I am sorry, but people speaking in absolutes about
> alternative tango music, women leading, etc, always
> gets me.  I have similar impulse control problems.
>
> Who died and made you arbiter of what is and is not
> tango?  I really don't care if Gardel visited you from
> the grave and gave you a tablet with The Rules, it's a
> freaking dance.  An entirely subjective art form.  It
> is whatever people make it, and whatever people mutate
> it to be over time.  If it hadn't already mutated, it
> never would have come into being, started
> incorporating milonga or vals, or adding additional
> steps.  What you're insisting is like demanding that
> we only speak Latin.  You tango purists sound like
> religious fundamentalists.  It's just not practical,
> and to me, it comes off as snobby and narrow minded.
>
> Kat
>
> --- Nina Pesochinsky <nina at earthnet.net> wrote:
>
>> Hi, Miles, Trini, and everyone,
>>
>> I am sorry, but the discussion about the
>> "alternative" music always
>> gets me and I can't not get into it.  Serious
>> impulse control problems!
>>
>> Alternative music for tango is an invention of
>> feverish foreign
>> (non-Argentine) minds.  Tango is a dance that is
>> danced 2x4.  But if
>> you dance it to anything other tango music, meaning
>> tango music that
>> is POLYPHONIC is its formation, it is NOT tango, but
>> some other dance,
>> originated outside of Argentina, that is only based
>> on Argentine Tango
>> moves.
>>
>> If you ask Argentines what they consider to be
>> "alternative" tango
>> music, some who think of music will say "Piazzolla".
>>  Others who think
>> lyrics will name singers and songs from Rock
>> Nacional genre, because
>> those lyrics are just like las letras de tango.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Nina
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Quoting "Trini y Sean (PATangoS)"
>> <patangos at yahoo.com>:
>>
>> > Hi Miles,
>> >
>> > Sharna Fabiano wrote an article about NeoTango
>> that you
>> > might find interesting.
>> > http://www.sharnafabiano.com/
>> >
>> > Trini de Pittsburgh
>> >
>> > --- m i l e s <miles at tangobliss.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Hi,
>> >>
>> >> When I hear the term..."Alternative Music" what
>> goes
>> >> through my mind
>> >> is a series of songs that you wouldn't ordinarily
>> dance
>> >> tango, vals
>> >> or milonga to...but you can, if you stretch your
>> mind a
>> >> bit...and
>> >> hear the beat, the rhythm, the opportunities...
>> >>
>> >> Take for instance Sade's - No Ordinary Love.
>> Amazing
>> >> song to dance
>> >> tango to by the way.... Or James Taylor's - The
>> Water is
>> >> Wide, or the
>> >> ubiquitous, Norah Jones's - The Nearness of
>> You....  All
>> >> amazing
>> >> songs that are so danceable and perfect for
>> Tango....
>> >>
>> >> So am I wrong in thinking that this is
>> 'alternative'
>> >> music or is
>> >> there perhaps another meaning....
>> >>
>> >> One that springs to mind is 'alternate' songs by
>> other
>> >> orchestras
>> >> doing classic or golden age tunes....???
>> >>
>> >> Or another is something to Gotan Project, or
>> NarcoTango
>> >> or,
>> >> BalaTango....?
>> >>
>> >> Can anyone enlighten ?
>> >>
>> >> M i l e s.
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>> >
>> >
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>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
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>> Quoting "Trini y Sean (PATangoS)"
>> <patangos at yahoo.com>:
>>
>> > Hi Miles,
>> >
>> > Sharna Fabiano wrote an article about NeoTango
>> that you
>> > might find interesting.
>> > http://www.sharnafabiano.com/
>> >
>> > Trini de Pittsburgh
>> >
>> > --- m i l e s <miles at tangobliss.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Hi,
>> >>
>> >> When I hear the term..."Alternative Music" what
>> goes
>> >> through my mind
>> >> is a series of songs that you wouldn't ordinarily
>> dance
>> >> tango, vals
>> >> or milonga to...but you can, if you stretch your
>> mind a
>> >> bit...and
>> >> hear the beat, the rhythm, the opportunities...
>> >>
>> >> Take for instance Sade's - No Ordinary Love.
>> Amazing
>> >> song to dance
>> >> tango to by the way.... Or James Taylor's - The
>> Water is
>> >> Wide, or the
>> >> ubiquitous, Norah Jones's - The Nearness of
>> You....  All
>> >> amazing
>> >> songs that are so danceable and perfect for
>> Tango....
>> >>
>> >> So am I wrong in thinking that this is
>> 'alternative'
>> >> music or is
>> >> there perhaps another meaning....
>> >>
>> >> One that springs to mind is 'alternate' songs by
>> other
>> >> orchestras
>> >> doing classic or golden age tunes....???
>> >>
>> >> Or another is something to Gotan Project, or
>> NarcoTango
>> >> or,
>> >> BalaTango....?
>> >>
>> >> Can anyone enlighten ?
>> >>
>> >> M i l e s.
>> >> _______________________________________________
>> >> Tango-L mailing list
>> >> Tango-L at mit.edu
>> >> http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/tango-l
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> > PATangoS - Pittsburgh Argentine Tango Society
>> > Our Mission: To make Argentine Tango Pittsburgh's
>> most popular social dance.
>> > http://patangos.home.comcast.net/
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
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