[Tango-L] "Inexperience tango teachers, stay away from Derik, a consumer who knows BS when he hears it!

Mon May 1 05:40:41 EDT 2006

Hey, leave Tine alone!!! She's my kind of woman (and I don't even know what she looks like! :-)).
  She speaks the truth. It's YOU Derik who speaks with forked tongue.
  She can represent my thoughts anytime. The same goes for Figgy... he's also ok in my book.
  Cheers,
  Dani

Derik Rawson <rawsonweb at yahoo.com> wrote:
  Dear Tine:

So now you too have appointed yourself the
spokesperson and Representative for all 1200 people on
this list. Your buddy, Michael Figart did that
already, twice..lol.

When are you "close embrace all the time" people going
to leave everybody alone and just let them dance the
way they want to without trying to teach them your
stuff and turn them into tango robots. I am so tired
of all this "parental control" and ignorance. You
guys need to learn instead of teach. My opinion.

Derik
d.rawson at rawsonwb.com

--- Yale Tango Club wrote:

> I am truly amazed that 1200 peple on this list let
> this idiot Derik call them ignorant, incompetent,
> dull, predictable, inexperienced, same old, boring,
> BS. This is just the words from this email. You let
> him do this not just once, but over and over again.
> For years! Incredible. Mind-boggling!
> 
> That's another idiot from Texas that you let walk
> all over you. At least the other one, you elected
> him, and you know he's not going to be there
> forever.
> 
> Don't any of you have any b*lls on you? (well a
> few of you do) What's the matter with you? 
> 
> You must all be confusing freedom of speech with
> the right to be insulted. If people have nothing
> interesting to contribute, they should not have
> privileged access to 1200 inboxes. Is this Derik's
> list, or everybody's list.
> 
> Tine
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Derik Rawson wrote:
> Dear Michael:
> 
> Why does it not surprise me that you have never
> heard
> of the expression.
> 
> "I've never heard "The embrace opens and closes like
> a bandondeon.""
> 
> This is the kind of ignorance that I am talking
> about.
> Furthermore, I do dance close embrace 60 to 80
> percent of the time, so please do not tell me that I
> have never experienced "close embrace all the time".
> 
> I have!
> 
> Like you, I feel her heart pounding, but I also know
> when she wants some space to express herself. Of
> course to do this, she would have to know how to
> dance...lol. This is the big problem with "close
> embrace all the time" followers, who have not really
> learned the entire dance. They are stuck with no
> ideas for open, so they have to avoid it.
> 
> Doing one thing all the time is way too much.
> Variety
> is the spice of life.
> 
> PS- I can always tell when the "close embrace all
> the
> time people" arrive in a room to dance. The music
> the
> DJ plays suddenly becomes very predictable and
> cutsie
> stuff... rather dull. When "the parents" go home,
> then the music then changes again and becomes more
> lively.
> 
> I guess I just get tired of all the predictability,
> the cutsie same old repetitious choreography. and
> the
> "gee, look how cute we are" mentality....and the
> constant recruitment of inexperienced teachers and
> students to teach this boring stuff.
> 
> I like to see more real energy on the dance floor. 
> where people really know how to navigate the floor
> in
> complex patterns, follow the changes in the music,
> and
> "move" instead of just going through the motions. My
> opinion.
> 
> Other than that, have a beautiful day in Washington.
> 
> Weather here is beautiful too, and I am going to
> enjoy
> it as well. Happy Spring.
> 
> Derik
> d.rawson at rawsonweb.com
> 
> 
> --- Michael wrote:
> 
> > Derek:
> > I'd love to give you a break! Your arrogance is
> only
> > exceeded by your ignorance of close embrace.
> > Changing the embrace? Why would I want to do that?
> > The embrace is like two batteries in a flashlight.
> > If they aren't in contact (facing the correct
> > direction), the light doesn't come on. To dance
> open
> > would break the circuit between the batteries. I
> > don't want to break the circuit with my partner. 
> > 
> > I've never heard "The embrace opens and closes
> like
> > a bandondeon." WRONG!! My heart opens and closes
> > like a bandeneon, not the embrace. Sometimes I can
> > also feel her heart pounding. I may have to
> slightly
> > adjust the embrace to allow the woman more room
> for
> > a figure, but there's NO good reason to go from
> > close to open. If couples have to go to open for a
> > figure, it's probably a show tango figure, not
> > appropriate to the social floor. Or one, if not
> > both, partners are so stiff they can't dance close
> > because their stiff arms prevents them from
> getting
> > close.
> > 
> > Thank goodness it's a beautiful spring day in
> > Washington and I'm going out to enjoy it instead
> of
> > reading Derek's posts.
> > 
> > Michael Ditkoff
> > Washington, DC
> > I'd rather be dancing Argentine Tango
> > 
> > Looking forward to my next trip to NY to dance
> with
> > N. and O. I thought I knew close embrace. These
> > women dance closer embrace.
> > Derek unfortunately wrote:
> > I do front ochos all the in variations of close
> > and open embrace. As you have heard it said many
> > times, "The embrace
> > opens and closes like a bandondeon." My point is
> > to vary the embrace. You should know how to be
> > connected
> > with your partner, no matter what. Keeping the
> > embrace closed all the time is like
> > keeping the bandondeon closed all the
> > time...ridiculous! My view is that the
> inexperience
> > and lack of understanding probably falls more on
> > the side of the people who do close embrace all
> the
> > time,
> > and their teachers who purposely eliminate
> > teaching the front ocho entirely....like Tine.
> Give
> > me a
> > break....lol.
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> > 
> 
> 
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