SRM7 + UWL + Application Controlled WF

Thu Jan 16 10:55:13 EST 2014

Nice to see that you got an answer to your question.  Still waiting to get my answer!  Although, I have been debugging SAP's code for them and I think I am pretty close to figuring it out.  It is looking like another error in their new code they introduced with our HR Support Packs we installed in December.

Loren Bratzler
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From: sap-wug-bounces at mit.edu [mailto:sap-wug-bounces at mit.edu] On Behalf Of Keohan, Susan - 1140 - MITLL
Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2014 9:05 AM
To: SAP Workflow Users' Group
Subject: RE: SRM7 + UWL + Application Controlled WF

Hi all,
I got an answer back from SAP.... Apparently it's a no-no to try to test tasks from SWUS (sigh).
Anyway, I am posting their response here in hopes of saving someone the pain.

Dear Susan,

Up from SRM 700, there are 2 workflow system types. The process
controlled workflow - PC - and the application controlled - AC -workflow
Up from 700 the system is looking for transactions for the tasks,
in case you use the AC.

But as you correctly recognized the old transacations are not used
anymore. This information are nevertheless neccessary , so that we
cannot delete the assigned transactions for the old tasks.

The system is applied correctly , old transactions we do not need
anymore are not there anymore.

Therefore SWUS cannot be used in this case, more or less from technical
reasosn specific with SRM.

Also we strongly recommend to complete the SRM workflow correctly,
this means , that you should trigger correct desicions or events
which are foreseen in SRM (up to SRM 7.0 is used only in portal/NWBC noprocess can be done via GUI, there are only log transactions that can
be executed as before).

Therefore if you are testing the process in the Portal and is not
getting the DUMP, everything is fine

From: sap-wug-bounces at mit.edu [mailto:sap-wug-bounces at mit.edu] On Behalf Of Keohan, Susan - 1140 - MITLL
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 12:26 PM
To: SAP Workflow Users' Group
Subject: RE: SRM7 + UWL + Application Controlled WF

Hi Andy,
Of course, my Basis team did the upgrade,  and it doesn't look like any BC Sets are relevant to this issue.
For example, if I look at /SAPSRM/T_SC_600_000_SP04 in detail, all of the components look as though they are related to PCW.

Thanks,
Sue

From: sap-wug-bounces at mit.edu<mailto:sap-wug-bounces at mit.edu> [mailto:sap-wug-bounces at mit.edu] On Behalf Of Andy Curtis
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 9:10 AM
To: SAP Workflow Users' Group
Subject: Re: SRM7 + UWL + Application Controlled WF

aghhhhh I know this one.  we did this upgrade and I wandered how SAP managed to make the old templates work with Web Dynpro.  They did not change the Tasks as these are still called.  So I debugged and found the Task calls the ITS transaction BBPSC07, then determines your an SRM7 system now and flips it to call the web dynpro.  I guess it does this in the BBPSC07 PBO.  But I never wrote it down and can't recall how it does it

I guess you have imported all the BC Sets and I guess it's a Config setting.
You could try sticking an external breakpoint in the BBPSC07 PBO then launch the workitem.
Andy Curtis
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   1. RE: SRM7 + UWL + Application Controlled WF
      (Keohan, Susan - 1140 - MITLL)

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From: "Keohan, Susan - 1140 - MITLL" <keohan at ll.mit.edu<mailto:keohan at ll.mit.edu>>
To: "SAP Workflow Users' Group" <sap-wug at mit.edu<mailto:sap-wug at mit.edu>>
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Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2014 13:50:19 +0000
Subject: RE: SRM7 + UWL + Application Controlled WF
Hi Arghadip,
There is no BBPSC* service in our SRM7 (upgraded from SRM5) system, and there is no transaction BBPSC07 in SE93 either.
Perplexing...
Thanks!

From: sap-wug-bounces at mit.edu<mailto:sap-wug-bounces at mit.edu> [mailto:sap-wug-bounces at mit.edu<mailto:sap-wug-bounces at mit.edu>] On Behalf Of Arghadip
Sent: Monday, January 13, 2014 4:02 PM
To: SAP Workflow Users' Group
Subject: Re: SRM7 + UWL + Application Controlled WF

Hi Susan

Can you try the below link.

https://scn.sap.com/thread/877093

Thanks
Arghadip
On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 2:38 PM, Keohan, Susan - 1140 - MITLL <keohan at ll.mit.edu<mailto:keohan at ll.mit.edu>> wrote:
Hi Arghadip,
Thanks, but that does not appear to be the problem.  The task launches from UWL just fine (and I am testing against new Shopping Carts) and I've checked the IMG settings and this standard task does indeed have EC_DECISION listed.  It's at the time that the task is created in the back end that the short dump is generated.

Thanks again,
Sue

From: sap-wug-bounces at mit.edu<mailto:sap-wug-bounces at mit.edu> [mailto:sap-wug-bounces at mit.edu<mailto:sap-wug-bounces at mit.edu>] On Behalf Of Arghadip
Sent: Monday, January 13, 2014 3:26 PM
To: SAP Workflow Users' Group
Subject: Re: SRM7 + UWL + Application Controlled WF

Hi Susan

Please try this Notes

  1891384 - Error : Transaction CONT is unknown <http://service.sap.com/sap/support/notes/1891384>

Thanks
Arghadip
On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 2:00 PM, Keohan, Susan - 1140 - MITLL <keohan at ll.mit.edu<mailto:keohan at ll.mit.edu>> wrote:
Hi all (and please do not mock me for being only about 10 years behind the curve)

We've just upgraded our SRM5 system to SRM7.  And we are staying with the Application Controlled Workflows (for now).  And we are implementing Universal Worklist - for new!
So far, my question is simple - I have noticed that the creation of SAP standard tasks such as TS14508044 will cause a short dump because they refer to transaction BBPSC07 (the old SRM5 ITS based SC Approval transaction).
The task still launches in the UWL - but when the task is created, it generates a short dump.
There are no notes on OSS about BBPSC07.
I am wondering if we 'missed' something in the upgrade, where we would have cleared out the entries in HRS1201 that refer to obsolete transactions.

Here's the short dump...I've looked all over SCN and am about blind from having too many windows open, but nothing seems applicable here.

[cid:image001.png at 01CF12A9.6EC5BF20]

Thanks!
Sue

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