SRM BRF workflow

Tue Jul 3 05:14:50 EDT 2012

Hi Ikhan,

Just my personal choice. I'm more interested in the BPM side of workflow
(how much does your busines process cost & how can we improve it), and SRM
is more 'template' driven and allows less leeway.

Either the process model fit the SAP vision and there was little
challenge, or it didn't and you had to work a lot harder than on
equivalent ECC projects, building ridiculous workarounds to 'go against
the grain'. I just didn't get much of a kick out of it.

Granted, much of that has changed in recent versions, but anyone who has
worked in v4 or earlier (anyone remember EBP?) will know what I'm talking
about...

Regards,
Mike

On Tue, July 3, 2012 6:51 am, Ikhan wrote:
> Hi Mike,
>   Why did you avoid SRM Workflows. Any Particular reason for it.
>
> On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 12:27 PM, Mike Pokraka
> <wug at workflowconnections.com>wrote:
>
>> Sorry can't help much with SRM details, worked hard to avoid it most of
>> my
>> workflow career.
>> If it helps, I once did an enhancement to integrate the BADI into the
>> regular sapgui substitution dialog, so if the BADI doesn't work for you
>> something similar may also an option for you.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Mike
>>
>> On Fri, June 29, 2012 8:24 am, stephane wrote:
>> > Hi all,
>> >
>> > Thanks, Mike, for your answer, I know this Badi however I am not 100%
>> > sure that it will work in my case.
>> > SRM one client with a Business All in One CLient without the EC
>> > portal ....
>> > No other solution wihtout UWL ?
>> >
>> > I am not yet 100% sure to know how the architecture of this solution
>> > works.
>> >
>> > Some more questions :
>> >     - SRM the Processed controled workflow (BRF) how does it work for
>> > different substitution profile ? It seems to be the same tasks behing
>> > every approval step
>> >     - Same question but for deadline monitoriing can we have different
>> > time and 'escalation process' depending of the steps ?
>> >     - Do you know if those BRF workflow will be replaced by BRFPlus
>> > workflow soon ?
>> >
>> > Cheers
>> > Stephane
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Le jeudi 28 juin 2012 Ã  12:16 -0400, sap-wug-request at mit.edu a Ã©crit
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>> >>    1. Re: Substitution restriction list (Mike Pokraka)
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>> >>
>> >> Message: 1
>> >> Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2012 10:35:08 +0100 (BST)
>> >> From: "Mike Pokraka" <wug at workflowconnections.com>
>> >> Subject: Re: Substitution restriction list
>> >> To: "SAP Workflow Users' Group" <sap-wug at MIT.EDU>
>> >> Message-ID:
>> >>      <efe2f511b736d57fb880f8fe2a85582c.squirrel at h.mail.aaisp.net.uk>
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>> >>
>> >> G'Day,
>> >>
>> >> The BADI is WF_SUBSTITUTE but it's only for the UWL substitution
>> dialog.
>> >> Given that you're on SRM this will probably work for you.
>> >>
>> >> Regards,
>> >> Mike
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Thu, June 28, 2012 9:53 am, stephane wrote:
>> >> > Hello,
>> >> >
>> >> > General question around the substitute, is there a BADI to control
>> the
>> >> > list of possible sustitute available to someone ?
>> >> > I am not talking about a specific task but for instance I want
>> someone
>> >> > to provide the susbtitution to only someone within the hierarchy
>> which
>> >> > is at the same level or above ?
>> >> >
>> >> > I would like to apply this in SRM one client (RDS - SRM 7)
>> >> > My main goal would be to use the BRF workflow but due to the
>> >> complexity
>> >> > I could go back to the old n step badi workflow
>> >> >
>> >> > Cheers
>> >> > Stephane
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Le mardi 26 juin 2012 ?? 00:28 -0400, sap-wug-request at mit.edu a
>> ??crit
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>> >> >> Today's Topics:
>> >> >>
>> >> >>    1. Re: tRFC Errors in SWU2 (Mike Pokraka)
>> >> >>    2. Re: tRFC Errors in SWU2 (Shaurya Jain)
>> >> >>    3. Re: tRFC Errors in SWU2 (Mike Pokraka)
>> >> >>    4. Re: tRFC Errors in SWU2 (Shaurya Jain)
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Message: 1
>> >> >> Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2012 19:29:03 +0100
>> >> >> From: Mike Pokraka <wug at workflowconnections.com>
>> >> >> Subject: Re: tRFC Errors in SWU2
>> >> >> To: "SAP Workflow Users' Group" <sap-wug at mit.edu>
>> >> >> Message-ID:
>> >> >>   <AF6F988D-C6B6-4410-9DD7-71FCB762DB1F at workflowconnections.com>
>> >> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Error message?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On 25 Jun 2012, at 06:36, Shaurya Jain <jain.shaurya at gmail.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Dear Experts,
>> >> >>
>> >> >> We are facing a problem with tRFC errors related to workflows.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Many times in a day we receive users complaint in following areas:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> They have actioned the work item from their inbox but work item is
>> >> not
>> >> >> getting removed from their inbox.
>> >> >> PM Notification created by user but workflow did not get triggered
>> >> for
>> >> >> the CREATE event.
>> >> >> PO/PR release happened for a particular release code but workitem
>> not
>> >> >> delievered to next responsible agent.
>> >> >> and many more like this.......
>> >> >> Such cases are not happening always & most of the times things go
>> >> fine.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> When I investigated in this issue more I found that tRFCs are in
>> >> error
>> >> >> in SWU2 log for TCodes ME54N, ME29N, IW21, etc. If I manually
>> execute
>> >> >> these LUWs then the respective problem gets resolved as the
>> activity
>> >> for
>> >> >> database update happens & things move as they have to. So I have a
>> >> >> workaround to resolve the problem temporarily.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> But I am still not able to find the root cause for this problem.
>> Even
>> >> my
>> >> >> Basis team is not able to help me out in this case. On checking
>> the
>> >> >> System Setting from Information menu in SWU2/SM58 I found that
>> values
>> >> >> for parameters Connection Attempt [No.] is set to 30 & Attempt
>> >> Interval
>> >> >> [Mins] is set to 15.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> If anyone of you can provide any sort of help it would be really
>> >> great.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Regards,
>> >> >> Shaurya Jain
>> >> >> _______________________________________________
>> >> >> SAP-WUG mailing list
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>> >> >>
>> >> >> Message: 2
>> >> >> Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2012 21:59:48 +0300
>> >> >> From: Shaurya Jain <jain.shaurya at gmail.com>
>> >> >> Subject: Re: tRFC Errors in SWU2
>> >> >> To: "SAP Workflow Users' Group" <sap-wug at mit.edu>
>> >> >> Message-ID:
>> >> >>   <
>> CAFALVOOfFi7dxNu7Q5eumOFeA+ECP2Aq_pL0+wvBx6Z_aLaUpg at mail.gmail.com>
>> >> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>> >> >>
>> >> >> DB Error -9999
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Regards,
>> >> >> Shaurya
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On Jun 25, 2012 9:39 PM, "Mike Pokraka"
>> <wug at workflowconnections.com
>> >
>> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Error message?
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > On 25 Jun 2012, at 06:36, Shaurya Jain <jain.shaurya at gmail.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Dear Experts,
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > We are facing a problem with tRFC errors related to workflows.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Many times in a day we receive users complaint in following
>> areas:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > They have actioned the work item from their inbox but work item
>> is
>> >> not
>> >> >> getting removed from their inbox.
>> >> >> > PM Notification created by user but workflow did not get
>> triggered
>> >> for
>> >> >> the CREATE event.
>> >> >> > PO/PR release happened for a particular release code but
>> workitem
>> >> not
>> >> >> delievered to next responsible agent.
>> >> >> > and many more like this.......
>> >> >> > Such cases are not happening always & most of the times things
>> go
>> >> >> fine.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > When I investigated in this issue more I found that tRFCs are in
>> >> error
>> >> >> in
>> >> >> SWU2 log for TCodes ME54N, ME29N, IW21, etc. If I manually execute
>> >> these
>> >> >> LUWs then the respective problem gets resolved as the activity for
>> >> >> database
>> >> >> update happens & things move as they have to. So I have a
>> workaround
>> >> to
>> >> >> resolve the problem temporarily.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > But I am still not able to find the root cause for this problem.
>> >> Even
>> >> >> my
>> >> >> Basis team is not able to help me out in this case. On checking
>> the
>> >> >> System
>> >> >> Setting from Information menu in SWU2/SM58 I found that values for
>> >> >> parameters Connection Attempt [No.] is set to 30 & Attempt
>> Interval
>> >> >> [Mins]
>> >> >> is set to 15.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > If anyone of you can provide any sort of help it would be really
>> >> >> great.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Regards,
>> >> >> > Shaurya Jain
>> >> >> > _______________________________________________
>> >> >> > SAP-WUG mailing list
>> >> >> > SAP-WUG at mit.edu
>> >> >> > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/sap-wug
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > _______________________________________________
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>> >> >>
>> >> >> Message: 3
>> >> >> Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2012 22:49:53 +0100
>> >> >> From: Mike Pokraka <wug at workflowconnections.com>
>> >> >> Subject: Re: tRFC Errors in SWU2
>> >> >> To: "SAP Workflow Users' Group" <sap-wug at mit.edu>
>> >> >> Message-ID:
>> >> >>   <7A53075A-C7F1-4AF1-A86C-0EB85E10DB54 at workflowconnections.com>
>> >> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>> >> >>
>> >> >> That sounds very much like a basis problem. Same error, different
>> >> >> transactions...
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Check the system log around the time of the transaction (SM21),
>> also
>> >> >> maybe have a look for update errors (SM13). Very surprised basis
>> >> can't
>> >> >> help you further, might be worth another chat.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Regards,
>> >> >> Mike
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On 25 Jun 2012, at 19:59, Shaurya Jain <jain.shaurya at gmail.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> DB Error -9999
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Regards,
>> >> >> Shaurya
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On Jun 25, 2012 9:39 PM, "Mike Pokraka"
>> <wug at workflowconnections.com
>> >
>> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Error message?
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > On 25 Jun 2012, at 06:36, Shaurya Jain <jain.shaurya at gmail.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Dear Experts,
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > We are facing a problem with tRFC errors related to workflows.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Many times in a day we receive users complaint in following
>> areas:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > They have actioned the work item from their inbox but work item
>> is
>> >> not
>> >> >> getting removed from their inbox.
>> >> >> > PM Notification created by user but workflow did not get
>> triggered
>> >> for
>> >> >> the CREATE event.
>> >> >> > PO/PR release happened for a particular release code but
>> workitem
>> >> not
>> >> >> delievered to next responsible agent.
>> >> >> > and many more like this.......
>> >> >> > Such cases are not happening always & most of the times things
>> go
>> >> >> fine.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > When I investigated in this issue more I found that tRFCs are in
>> >> error
>> >> >> in SWU2 log for TCodes ME54N, ME29N, IW21, etc. If I manually
>> execute
>> >> >> these LUWs then the respective problem gets resolved as the
>> activity
>> >> >> for database update happens & things move as they have to. So I
>> have
>> >> a
>> >> >> workaround to resolve the problem temporarily.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > But I am still not able to find the root cause for this problem.
>> >> Even
>> >> >> my Basis team is not able to help me out in this case. On checking
>> >> the
>> >> >> System Setting from Information menu in SWU2/SM58 I found that
>> values
>> >> >> for parameters Connection Attempt [No.] is set to 30 & Attempt
>> >> >> Interval [Mins] is set to 15.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > If anyone of you can provide any sort of help it would be really
>> >> >> great.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Regards,
>> >> >> > Shaurya Jain
>> >> >> > _______________________________________________
>> >> >> > SAP-WUG mailing list
>> >> >> > SAP-WUG at mit.edu
>> >> >> > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/sap-wug
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > _______________________________________________
>> >> >> > SAP-WUG mailing list
>> >> >> > SAP-WUG at mit.edu
>> >> >> > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/sap-wug
>> >> >> >
>> >> >>
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>> >> >>
>> >> >> Message: 4
>> >> >> Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2012 07:28:07 +0300
>> >> >> From: Shaurya Jain <jain.shaurya at gmail.com>
>> >> >> Subject: Re: tRFC Errors in SWU2
>> >> >> To: "SAP Workflow Users' Group" <sap-wug at mit.edu>
>> >> >> Message-ID:
>> >> >>   <CAFALVONy_J17YHEVHk=ZPsaK4yKqGYWge1AeVPO6By34BY_C=
>> Q at mail.gmail.com>
>> >> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Thanks Susan & Mike for responding.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I will get in touch with the Basis team again & will update the
>> forum
>> >> >> with
>> >> >> solution.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Regards,
>> >> >> Shaurya Jain
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 12:49 AM, Mike Pokraka
>> >> >> <wug at workflowconnections.com>wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > That sounds very much like a basis problem. Same error,
>> different
>> >> >> > transactions...
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Check the system log around the time of the transaction (SM21),
>> >> also
>> >> >> maybe
>> >> >> > have a look for update errors (SM13). Very surprised basis can't
>> >> help
>> >> >> you
>> >> >> > further, might be worth another chat.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Regards,
>> >> >> > Mike
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > On 25 Jun 2012, at 19:59, Shaurya Jain <jain.shaurya at gmail.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > DB Error -9999
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Regards,
>> >> >> > Shaurya
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > On Jun 25, 2012 9:39 PM, "Mike Pokraka"
>> >> <wug at workflowconnections.com>
>> >> >> > wrote:
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > > Error message?
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > > On 25 Jun 2012, at 06:36, Shaurya Jain
>> <jain.shaurya at gmail.com>
>> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > > Dear Experts,
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > > We are facing a problem with tRFC errors related to workflows.
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > > Many times in a day we receive users complaint in following
>> >> areas:
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > > They have actioned the work item from their inbox but work
>> item
>> >> is
>> >> >> not
>> >> >> > getting removed from their inbox.
>> >> >> > > PM Notification created by user but workflow did not get
>> >> triggered
>> >> >> for
>> >> >> > the CREATE event.
>> >> >> > > PO/PR release happened for a particular release code but
>> workitem
>> >> >> not
>> >> >> > delievered to next responsible agent.
>> >> >> > > and many more like this.......
>> >> >> > > Such cases are not happening always & most of the times things
>> go
>> >> >> fine.
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > > When I investigated in this issue more I found that tRFCs are
>> in
>> >> >> error
>> >> >> > in SWU2 log for TCodes ME54N, ME29N, IW21, etc. If I manually
>> >> execute
>> >> >> these
>> >> >> > LUWs then the respective problem gets resolved as the activity
>> for
>> >> >> database
>> >> >> > update happens & things move as they have to. So I have a
>> >> workaround
>> >> >> to
>> >> >> > resolve the problem temporarily.
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > > But I am still not able to find the root cause for this
>> problem.
>> >> >> Even my
>> >> >> > Basis team is not able to help me out in this case. On checking
>> the
>> >> >> System
>> >> >> > Setting from Information menu in SWU2/SM58 I found that values
>> for
>> >> >> > parameters Connection Attempt [No.] is set to 30 & Attempt
>> Interval
>> >> >> [Mins]
>> >> >> > is set to 15.
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > > If anyone of you can provide any sort of help it would be
>> really
>> >> >> great.
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > > Regards,
>> >> >> > > Shaurya Jain
>> >> >> > > _______________________________________________
>> >> >> > > SAP-WUG mailing list
>> >> >> > > SAP-WUG at mit.edu
>> >> >> > > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/sap-wug
>> >> >> > >
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