Activating workflow without using SWDD tcode

[Ravi Dixit]

Hi Priyank

Your queries have been quite endless really and I really appreciate Jocelyn
for all the patience she has shown and replied, quite promptly, to all your
queries so far. And what Mike says, does make a lot of sense, as you may
have issues with your workflows in production that need fixing ASAP by
someone with good knowledge in this area. From what we could see, you indeed
lack this knowledge, which was already pointed out to you in one of your
earlier threads by me.
When experts like Mike are making some suggestions, you need to give them
the respect they deserve and not misunderstand.
Finally, let me remind you that no one is compelled to answer your questions
and any such basic level questions may remain unanswered thus delaying a fix
in your productive environment.

Ravi
P.S.: I hope you see this mail in a positive light.... :)

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> Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2010 16:42:35 +0530
> From: "Patil, Priyank" <Priyank.Patil at keane.com>
> Subject: RE: Activating workflow without using SWDD tcode
> To: "SAP Workflow Users' Group" <sap-wug at mit.edu>
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> Hey mikey cool..you could have told me the difference between the client
> dependent/independent transport request in WF rite:(..Thanks for your
> concern I really appreciate your gesture. This blog is awesome believe me.
>
> Thanks
> PD
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: sap-wug-bounces at mit.edu [mailto:sap-wug-bounces at mit.edu] On Behalf
> Of Mike Pokraka
> Sent: Friday, July 02, 2010 4:33 PM
> To: SAP Workflow Users' Group
> Subject: RE: Activating workflow without using SWDD tcode
>
> Not sure if you misunderstood, I was genuinely trying to be helpful -
> that's the reason I gave you a justification as to why it would save your
> company a lot of money to send you on training.
>
> Learning is all good and well (and I've learnt a lot from this list
> myself), but production failures are not the best environment for this,
> and certainly not the cheapest for your company. You may get by figuring
> out WHAT is broken and how to fix it, but a course will do a much better
> job of teaching you WHY it's broken.
>
> Otherwise try and get them to buy you a copy of the WF book. Proceeds go
> to charity, so it will be a good deed as well!
>
>
> On Fri, July 2, 2010 11:12 am, Patil, Priyank wrote:
> > I was just wondering to know the difference between client
> > dependent/independent change request in workflow. Its all about learning
> a
> > new things.
> >
> >
> > Thanks
> > PD
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: sap-wug-bounces at mit.edu [mailto:sap-wug-bounces at mit.edu] On Behalf
> > Of Mike Pokraka
> > Sent: Friday, July 02, 2010 3:29 PM
> > To: SAP Workflow Users' Group
> > Subject: RE: Activating workflow without using SWDD tcode
> >
> > A workflow course could be considered a behaviour-changing conversation.
> > If you really don't have any workflow skilled people then I would highly
> > recommend some training.
> > It will save your company good money in the long run - you have already
> > spend over two days on a problem that should take an hour at most to
> > resolve.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, July 2, 2010 8:09 am, Patil, Priyank wrote:
> >> Joce,
> >>           Here we don't have any WF developers. We need to take care of
> >> everything. Could you tell me some details on behavior-changing
> >> conversation. Actually what is it and how it works?
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >> PD
> >>
> >> From: sap-wug-bounces at mit.edu [mailto:sap-wug-bounces at mit.edu] On
> Behalf
> >> Of Dart, Jocelyn
> >> Sent: Friday, July 02, 2010 12:11 PM
> >> To: SAP Workflow Users' Group
> >> Subject: RE: Activating workflow without using SWDD tcode
> >>
> >> No difference at all - event activation is event activation no matter
> >> where you do it.
> >> But that's why you want to watch the Linkages in Errors tab regularly -
> >> because if it's getting deactivated due to an error that's where it will
> >> appear.
> >> Of course if it's new transports deactivating it then you want to go and
> >> have a behaviour-changing conversation with your workflow developers.
> >> Regards
> >> Jocelyn
> >>
> >> From: sap-wug-bounces at mit.edu [mailto:sap-wug-bounces at mit.edu] On
> Behalf
> >> Of Patil, Priyank
> >> Sent: Friday, 2 July 2010 4:07 PM
> >> To: SAP Workflow Users' Group
> >> Subject: RE: Activating workflow without using SWDD tcode
> >>
> >> Thanks Jocelyn its quite informative...But this is only to activate the
> >> event(swu0) attached to the WF I guess. But once iam done with it ,
> >> don't
> >> you think it will get deactivate again??.Because I feel its same like
> >> getting into SWDD and activate the event.I don't find any difference in
> >> SWU0 and getting into SWDD to reactivate the event . What is the
> >> difference in SWU0 and getting into SWDD(reactivate the event).
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >> PD
> >>
> >> From: sap-wug-bounces at mit.edu [mailto:sap-wug-bounces at mit.edu] On
> Behalf
> >> Of Dart, Jocelyn
> >> Sent: Friday, July 02, 2010 11:19 AM
> >> To: SAP Workflow Users' Group
> >> Subject: RE: Activating workflow without using SWDD tcode
> >>
> >> Ok - If neither of them are the event you are looking for then another
> >> way
> >> to fix event activation issues is through transaction SWU0 - simulate
> >> event.
> >>
> >> Run the simulation on the event in question and it will show if there is
> >> any problem with the activation - e.g. if the workflow itself is not
> >> activated.  If everything this is fine but it's just the event that is
> >> deactivated you can double click on the event activation line and you'll
> >> get a pop-up where you can change the event activation flag and save it.
> >>
> >> When you've done that run SWU0 again to check everything is ok.
> >> Regard,s
> >> Jocelyn
> >>
> >> From: sap-wug-bounces at mit.edu [mailto:sap-wug-bounces at mit.edu] On
> Behalf
> >> Of Patil, Priyank
> >> Sent: Friday, 2 July 2010 3:38 PM
> >> To: SAP Workflow Users' Group
> >> Subject: RE: Activating workflow without using SWDD tcode
> >>
> >> In that tab, we have 2 objects and associated events assigned to them.
> >> And
> >> linkage status/activation are marked I green color.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> PD
> >>
> >> From: sap-wug-bounces at mit.edu [mailto:sap-wug-bounces at mit.edu] On
> Behalf
> >> Of Dart, Jocelyn
> >> Sent: Friday, July 02, 2010 11:00 AM
> >> To: SAP Workflow Users' Group
> >> Subject: RE: Activating workflow without using SWDD tcode
> >>
> >> Yes Patil that's fine... but transaction SWEQADM has 5 different tabs
> >> and
> >> you are describing the settings on the Basic Data tab.
> >> The settings you are using are correct and mean that you should then see
> >> any failed events in the Linkages with Errors tab..
> >>
> >> So what Paul and I are asking is what are you seeing in the Linkages
> >> with
> >> Errors tab.  So just try moving over to that Tab and see if the
> >> offending
> >> event is listed.
> >>
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> Jocelyn
> >>
> >> From: sap-wug-bounces at mit.edu [mailto:sap-wug-bounces at mit.edu] On
> Behalf
> >> Of Patil, Priyank
> >> Sent: Friday, 2 July 2010 3:19 PM
> >> To: SAP Workflow Users' Group
> >> Subject: RE: Activating workflow without using SWDD tcode
> >>
> >> How long!!..Its hard to find out but I guess, we merged 2 servers to one
> >> single instance. So on that time it may caused this issue.Anyways I
> >> changed in the basic event  tab as 'Linkages with errors'. Under this
> >> the
> >> entries are -
> >> 1)Event linkages with errors must be set manually to "No errors"
> >> 2)Events can be redelivered to the receiver after errors
> >>
> >> From: sap-wug-bounces at mit.edu [mailto:sap-wug-bounces at mit.edu] On
> Behalf
> >> Of Rick Bakker
> >> Sent: Friday, July 02, 2010 10:41 AM
> >> To: SAP Workflow Users' Group
> >> Subject: Re: Activating workflow without using SWDD tcode
> >>
> >> Hello,
> >>
> >> How long has SWEQADM been set to that value, do you know?
> >> Any entries under the "Linkages with errors" tab?
> >>
> >> regards
> >> Rick Bakker
> >> Hanabi Technology
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 12:57 PM, Patil, Priyank
> >> <Priyank.Patil at keane.com<mailto:Priyank.Patil at keane.com>> wrote:
> >> In SWEQADM its   'MARK LINKAGE AS HAVING ERRORS'.
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >> PD
> >>
> >> From: sap-wug-bounces at mit.edu<mailto:sap-wug-bounces at mit.edu>
> >> [mailto:sap-wug-bounces at mit.edu<mailto:sap-wug-bounces at mit.edu>] On
> >> Behalf
> >> Of Rick Bakker
> >> Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 6:07 PM
> >>
> >> To: SAP Workflow Users' Group
> >> Subject: Re: Activating workflow without using SWDD tcode
> >>
> >> Depends what the System Default is. What's the setting in SWEQADM?
> >> On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 8:21 PM, Patil, Priyank
> >> <Priyank.Patil at keane.com<mailto:Priyank.Patil at keane.com>> wrote:
> >>
> >> Some workflows its 'MARK LINKAGE AS HAVING ERRORS' and for some others
> >> its
> >> SYSTEM DEFAULTS.I guess this should not be a problem.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >>
> >> PD
> >>
> >>
> >> From: sap-wug-bounces at mit.edu<mailto:sap-wug-bounces at mit.edu>
> >> [mailto:sap-wug-bounces at mit.edu<mailto:sap-wug-bounces at mit.edu>] On
> >> Behalf
> >> Of Rick Bakker
> >> Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 5:46 PM
> >>
> >> To: SAP Workflow Users' Group
> >> Subject: Re: Activating workflow without using SWDD tcode
> >>
> >> What's the setting in SWEQADM?
> >> On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 8:08 PM, Patil, Priyank
> >> <Priyank.Patil at keane.com<mailto:Priyank.Patil at keane.com>> wrote:
> >> No, it was set to 'Mark linkage as having errors'.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> PD
> >>
> >> From: sap-wug-bounces at mit.edu<mailto:sap-wug-bounces at mit.edu>
> >> [mailto:sap-wug-bounces at mit.edu<mailto:sap-wug-bounces at mit.edu>] On
> >> Behalf
> >> Of Neumann, Marcia
> >> Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 5:33 PM
> >>
> >> To: SAP Workflow Users' Group
> >> Subject: RE: Activating workflow without using SWDD tcode
> >>
> >> We have 'Behavior Upon Error Feedback' set to 'Do not change linkage' in
> >> event linkage SWETYPV for all our workflows.  Is your set to
> >> 'Deactivation
> >> on linkage'?
> >> [cid:image001.jpg at 01CB19E3.9424C760]
> >>
> >>
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> >> Behalf
> >> Of Patil, Priyank
> >> Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 7:57 AM
> >> To: SAP Workflow Users' Group
> >> Subject: RE: Activating workflow without using SWDD tcode
> >>
> >> The triggering event attached to WF is getting deactivated all the time.
> >> Its creating a huge problem to us. And it's a customized workflow not a
> >> standard one.
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >> Priyank
> >>
> >> From: sap-wug-bounces at MIT.EDU<mailto:sap-wug-bounces at MIT.EDU>
> >> [mailto:sap-wug-bounces at MIT.EDU<mailto:sap-wug-bounces at MIT.EDU>] On
> >> Behalf
> >> Of Bhupinder
> >> Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 5:18 PM
> >> To: SAP Workflow Users' Group
> >> Subject: Re: Activating workflow without using SWDD tcode
> >>
> >> Hi Priyank,
> >>
> >> Normally at production system, we are simply activating the triggering
> >> event attached to WF which sometimes deactivated.
> >>
> >> Is this the case in your scenario or WF definition itself gets
> >> deactivated?
> >>
> >> To activate the event, you can either use OOCU tcode or using PFTC.
> >>
> >> Best Regards,
> >> Bhupinder
> >> On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 5:03 PM, Patil, Priyank
> >> <Priyank.Patil at keane.com<mailto:Priyank.Patil at keane.com>> wrote:
> >> Wuggers,
> >>                     Can we activate our workflow without going into
> >> SWDD.Suppose I have  created one workflow for PO
> >> approval.Actuallly we don't have access to SWDD tcode
> >> in production and often the WF is getting inactive
> >> once its activated. Now is there any way to activate
> >> workflow using any tcodes or standard program.
> >>
> >> ______________________
> >> Thanks and Regards,
> >> Priyank Dev Patil
> >>
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