Approval Limits for Travel Expenses

John A Haworth jhoworth at csc.com
Fri Jun 6 10:14:33 EDT 2008


Many Thanks Jocelyn. That looks as though its exactly what I need.

Kind Regards

John



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Hi John, 
 
I think you must be looking at the wrong doco.   Personalization object 
keys have NOTHING to do with Portal iviews. 
Look at transaction PERSREG and transaction SPERS_MAINT. If you use the 
standard storage the data itself is held in table SPERS_OBJ.  A good 
example of a matrix type attribute for roles is "RESOURCE"  - this shows 
how easy it is to create personalization a function module calling 
standard table handling routines. You can also very rapidly create a 
personalization key using a dictionary structure or table type. 
 
Personalization data is maintained on the Personalization tab of  the User 
Master (transaction SU01) or the Security Role (transaction PFCG). 
Users can only maintain personalization keys if they have access to SU01 
and the key has been enabled for user masters (it can be enabled for roles 
only) and they have sufficient authorization to maintain the data.  There 
is no option for changing Personaliation keys via the Portal. 
 
Roles can of course be linked to positions or jobs. 
 
Yes attributes (infotype 1222) assigned to positions or org units are 
another possible option.  Be aware that to maintain attributes correctly 
in this way you MUST use one of the PPOMA* transactions - using PA30, 
PO13, or PO10 does not give access to the "attribute scenario" which is 
critical to correct maintenance of these attributes. 
 
Key things to consider when deciding which way to go:
* How complex are the attributes? - Matrices are easier to manage via 
personalization object keys.  Extended attributes are possible but involve 
greater coding effort. 
* What minimizes the maintenance burden?  If your delegations are in a 
discrete set of bands then this is easier to manage via security 
roles/personalization object keys rather than having to maintain 
attributes for every org unit/position.   If the delegations are more 
subjective, attributes may be better.
* Are the delegations for a user based on the position they hold (.... use 
attributes) or their security level (.... use personalization keys on 
roles) or are they assigned personally to them (... use personalization 
keys on users)? 
 
Hope that helps. 
 
Regards, 
Jocelyn Dart 
Senior Consultant 
SAP Australia Pty Ltd. 
Level 1/168 Walker St. 
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Australia 
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Of John A Haworth
Sent: Friday, 06 June 2008 8:47 PM
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Subject: RE: Approval Limits for Travel Expenses


Thanks Jocelyn, 

One last question, promise. Is there an advantage of 'Personalisation' 
over 'Attributes (PPOMA)' against an organisational unit, my thoughts are 
that personalization seem to be for use via iviews and the portal and 
could be seen by and potentially changed by the user. Whereas attributes 
would be master data and only changed by the relevant authorised person in 
Org Management and could be against a Position or Job. I am trying to 
represent a delegated list of authority with approval limits, so perhaps 
the Attributes approach would be more suited? 

Many Thanks 

John

CSC Computer Sciences Limited
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GU11 1PZ, UK
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Hi John, 
Yes I've used this approach at some sites - especially where the limits 
are matrixed - e.g. different limits per travel category. Works well. 
Regards, 
Jocelyn 

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Thanks for that, and do you think that personalisation would be a suitable 
place to hold the 'Approval Amount'? 

Again, many thanks for your advice. 

Kind Regards 

John

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Hi John, 
Yes Personalization is available in all SAP ABAP systems since R/3 4.6C. 
Only difference is you need to create your own personalization key in 
transaction PERSREG and create the necessary coding to read it. 
There's a whole section on it in the Help library - look for 
Personalization.
Regards,
Jocelyn 

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Hi 

I am looking in ECC6.0, at where would be best to hold Travel expenses 
Approval limits. I remember that in SRM Org Management  in the extended 
attributes or personalisation there is an approval limit amount, but dont 
think this is available in ECC6 Org Management. Has anyone had a similar 
issue and any thoughts on where this amount would be best held? 

Thanks 

Regards 

John

CSC Computer Sciences Limited
Registered Office: Royal Pavilion, Wellesley Road, Aldershot, Hampshire, 
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