SAP-WUG - to SDN or not to SDN, that is the question

[Mowry, Douglas]

We should all raise our fists in the air and chant "WUG, WUG, WUG,
WUG...."

Great job Sue.

Thanks,
Doug Mowry

-----Original Message-----
From: sap-wug-bounces at mit.edu [mailto:sap-wug-bounces at mit.edu] On Behalf
Of Susan R. Keohan
Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2007 10:51 AM
To: SAP Workflow Users' Group
Subject: Re: SAP-WUG - to SDN or not to SDN, that is the question

All,

Thank you all for your feedback.  I will pass this information on to the

SDN folks.  I really enjoy knowing that you all get information, and 
even chuckles, from this list.  So until there is a better alternative, 
the WUG lives on.

Those of you who want to raise a glass to toast it are welcome to do so 
in Las Vegas at TechEd.   I hope to see you there!

Cheers,
Sue

PS:  I am really blushing with your enthusiasm and kind words.

Hilsbos, Margaret A wrote:
> Just want to chip in that I would like the WUG to continue as the
> phenomenal resource it's been, and I would be disappointed to see it
> move to SDN.
> 
> Reasons:
> 
> 1.  WUG ain't broke. It works great. (For the beneficiaries, anyway.) 
> 2.  My experiences with SDN have been mostly frustrating, and as has
> been mentioned, the search is very poor. (I have found good answers
> there on occasion though, SDN is not completely hopeless.) 
> 
> Those said, my biggest reason is that I've evolved a great system for
> handling the WUG traffic in my inbox, but if it moves to SDN I would
> have to figure out how to set things up again to achieve the same
> benefit and ease of use. It's probably possible, but given the choice,
> from a purely selfish perspective I'd rather not change something that
> is working quite well for me as is.
> 
> If a move to SDN is necessary in the future, I hope some nice folks
will
> compile a concise FAQ on how to make the SDN Workflow forum at least
> behave as much as possible like WUG.
> 
> Also, here's an example usability problem with ASUG forums (I don't
know
> if this is also true for SDN, I haven't used SDN much because of the
> performance) - the subject line looks like this:
> 
> "ASUG Discussion Forum Post: RE:Brief Survey - WF and BPM SIG"
> 
> EVERY email has the SAME first 25+ characters. I suspect I'm not the
> only person who finds it harder to pick out items of interest by
> scanning headers in my ASUG folder.  In contrast, the WUG emails have
a
> meaningful subject line from the first character (except for the
> occasional noob or goof that generates a SAP-WUG Digest reply). Why
not
> configure the ASUG forum mail with the forum indicator at the end of
the
> subject line (like: RE:Brief Survey - WF and BPM SIG (ASUG Discussion
> Forum Post) ) - if it must be there at all?
> 
> That's just an example of how usability ought to be taken into
account.
> 
> Finally, fwiw, I run a non-technical forum for a small group of
> volunteers, and I have considered that it might work better for our
> purposes to move it to a mailing list type of discussion group
instead.
> Mailing lists might be "so last century" but as seen on this group,
they
> can still work perfectly well for what they are intended for.
> 
> 
> Margaret Hilsbos
> Applications Development Group
> Day & Zimmermann
> (215) 299-5630
> 
> 
> On Wed, June 27, 2007 8:19 pm, Susan R. Keohan wrote:
>> Sherie, Mike, All,
>>
>> I hear you loud and clear.  If others feel the same way, please reply
>> and say WHY.  I don't mind keeping this list going as long as I can;
> as
>> a matter of fact, I enjoy it quite a bit.  But this list has no
>> 'official' status with SAP, and it is just by grace of good luck that
> we
>> have some excellent SAP folks (you know who you are) on it.
>>
>> If you feel that this list should continue, again, please state
why...
>> why you like it, why other sources don't meet your needs, etc.
>>
>> That, along with your $20 contribution, will keep SAP-WUG up and
> running.
>>
>> Kidding (about the $20) for those of you who don't know me,
>> Sue
>>
> 
> 
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Susan R. Keohan
SAP Workflow Developer
MIT Lincoln Laboratory
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Phone: 781-981-3561
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