Deadlines based on factory calendar - is The Book wrong?
Mike Pokraka
asap at workflowconnections.com
Mon Oct 2 18:23:57 EDT 2006
Hi Paul,
Perhaps I misunderstood, but I grasped it differently. What I got was
that factory calendars become less relevant as time goes on. You might
as well specify 15 working days as three weeks / 21 days because an
extra day won't make much difference, as opposed to a 2 day deadline
kicking in on a task created on a Friday afternoon, giving the poor
bloke an hour to do his job.
I've not had to trawl through working days either. The book and the doc
Kjetil sent both refer to the same principle. Specify an offset and the
deadline object gives you the end date in working days from TODAY. Do
not add anything, just plug the object attributes into the expression.
So an instance of a deadline object with a key including an offset of
today+howevermanydaysuntilnextsaturday should have Monday in it's
DEADLINEDATE attribute.
....or am I missing something?
Cheers,
Mike
Paul.Bakker at osr.treasury.qld.gov.au wrote:
> WUG Experts,
>
> Thank you very much for all your valuable comments on the factory calendar
> / deadline problem.
>
> I am going to go ahead and code the solution that was suggested : increment
> one WORKING day at a time, until the deadline offset is reached. I will
> share the code with you once it's bedded down.
>
> At first I didn't grasp the distinction that Kjetil made between short and
> long deadlines, but now I get it. A deadline specified in DAYs should be
> interpreted as working days, whereas a deadline specified in MONTHS or
> YEARS would not be.
>
> thanks again - this group is great!
> Paul
>
>
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> Hmmmm... I looked a little more at the code in the presentation
> (embedded text file), and it looks like it is exactly the same solution
> as the appendix in the book.
>
> However, there is one thing that makes me wonder about your requirement.
> You say that not only should the deadline be a working day, but only
> working days should be taken into account. It may make some sense for
> very short deadlines, e.g. a two-day deadline, but should a 15-day
> deadline be a three-week deadline? In the worst case (I don't know what
> options the standard function modules give you) you will have to loop
> over every date in the range and check if it is a working day or not.
> --
> Kjetil Kilhavn, Statoil OFT GBS BAS DEV SAP
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>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Kjetil Kilhavn
>> Sent: 28. september 2006 10:14
>> To: 'SAP Workflow Users' Group'
>> Subject: RE: Deadlines based on factory calendar - is The Book wrong?
>>
>> I think this has been discussed several times before (have
>> you searched the archives?) in this group, but I can't recall
>> if anyone has had quite the same requirements as you.
>>
>> I have attached a PDF file (can't remember where I got it,
>> whether it was in this group or perhaps on ASUG's site) with
>> another implementation, and a PowerPoint file with an
>> implementation that seems to be exactly what you want.
>>
>> If you find none of these match your needs than please create
>> the ultimate solution and share it with the rest of us.
>> --
>> Kjetil Kilhavn, Statoil OFT GBS BAS DEV SAP
>>
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: sap-wug-bounces at mit.edu
>>> [mailto:sap-wug-bounces at mit.edu] On Behalf Of
>>> Paul.Bakker at osr.treasury.qld.gov.au
>>> Sent: 28. september 2006 09:13
>>> To: sap-wug at mit.edu
>>> Subject: Deadlines based on factory calendar - is The Book wrong?
>>>
>>> Hello all,
>>>
>>> We have a requirement to calculate the deadline for a
>>> workitem (eg Latest
>>> Start) based on the Factory Calendar.
>>>
>>> For example, if the workitem was created on a Thursday and
>>> the 'Latest Start' deadline is +3 days, then it should be
>>> triggered on the following Tuesday (not Sunday). In other
>>> words, it should only take working days into account.
>>>
>>> Surprisingly, SAP standard does not cater for this scenario.
>>> I therefore implemented the solution suggested in the The
>>> Book, in Appendix A9. It shows you how to create a custom
>>> deadline object based on the factory calendar, and use the
>>> expression ZDEADLINE.DATE as the reference date in the step.
>>>
>>> Surprisingly (again), this solution DOES NOT work. Deadlines
>>> are triggered without taking weekends into account.
>>>
>>> When I had a closer look at it, I noticed that the Factory
>>> Calendar is only being used to determine the Workitem
>>> _Creation Date_; it is not being used to calculate the Latest
>>> Start Date. The book even seems to concede this:
>>>
>>> "Note that the reference date gives the date based on
>>> the factory calendar, but any offset will simply be added to
>>> the reference date as normal".
>>>
>>> If this really is the case, then what is the point of
>>> implementing this solution?
>>>
>>> Has anyone gotten it to work? I'm sure it must be me... sigh.
>>>
>>> cheers
>>> Paul
>>>
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