Workflow substitutes in a multi SAP system component lanscape
jerry martinek
jerry.martinek at shawbiz.ca
Thu Jan 26 17:14:54 EST 2006
Hi Jocelyn,
I've checked our ERP2005 and SRM5 systems and they both have the required function modules but unfortunately it doesn't work.
Based on the earlier reply from Mikko, I've reported the problem to OSS as it should be working.
Thanks,
Jerry
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Hi Folks,
Yes the substitution does work across all systems BUT each system needs =
the SAP_WAPI_SUBSTITUT* prefixed function modules.=20
There's no official downgrade but I have downgraded them for instance to =
a 6.20 system and it worked. So the UWL just checks to see
if the function modules exist. If its not working in some of your =
systems then the function modules are probably missing in those systems. =
If you have it working in any of your systems, then the function modules =
must be in the working systems. So.... manually copy all the=20
SAP_WAPI_SUBSTITUT* function modules across to the non-working systems =
and you should be fine.
=20
Regards,=20
Jocelyn Dart=20
Senior Consultant=20
SAP Australia Pty Ltd.=20
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From: sap-wug-bounces at mit.edu [mailto:sap-wug-bounces at mit.edu] On Behalf =
Of Mikko M=E4ki-Rahkola
Sent: Thursday, 26 January 2006 6:04 PM
To: SAP Workflow Users' Group
Subject: Re: Workflow substitutes in a multi SAP system component =
lanscape
Hi Jerry,
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I think you have got the wrong information, UWL substitute management =
does link to the backend substitutions and maintains them beautifully in =
the lates versions. I verified this by testing an EP6.0 SP14/ECC5.0 =
system and after maintaining the substitutions of person A in the =
portal, A:s work items were displayed without any problems in person B:s =
Business Workplace in the ECC system.=20
=20
With regards to the substitute management updating multiple backends, I =
wasn't able to test this fully but I put in a screenshot from the =
substitute maintenance screen (attached) which implies that multiple =
backends can be updated. So I would with 99% certainty say that yes, =
it's possible too.=20
=20
I haven't actually done the UWL systems config here but I think there's =
nothing else to it regarding substitutions than configuring the systems. =
Substitution rules can also be maintained in the backend system.
=20
Hope this helps,
Mikko
=20
On 1/26/06, jerry martinek <jerry.martinek at shawbiz.ca> wrote:=20
Hi All,
=09
I need some help trying to understand and figure out how to best =
proceed with a recommendation/solution for defining workflow substitutes =
in a new SAP installation that includes the following components: =
Netweaver 2004S, EP6, SRM5 and ERP 2005.=20
=09
The client is planning to rollout various ESS, MSS, ERP and SRM =
workflows throughout the organization and use the UWL for all workflow =
scenarios.
=09
Being new to the portal and UWL, I been reading and trying different =
things with respect to maintaining substitutes in the ERP and SRM =
systems as well as the UWL.=20
=09
I've figured out that the UWL substitute processing is not linked to =
the ERP and SRM functionality. This means that anyone responsible for =
approvals will need to log into the ERP system and define the required =
personal substitutes in the Workflow Inbox and then repeat the same =
process in the SRM Approval tab.=20
=09
If the above is the only way to define substitutes, then the process =
will not be met with open arms for all sorts of reasons.
=09
As I'm new to these new SAP components, am I missing something? There =
is a simple solution to defining substitutes in this type of a system =
landscape or do you need to build something to provide the =
required/desired single entry point for both systems.=20
=09
Also, what do the UWL substitutes provide?
=09
Regards,
Jerry
=09
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<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D116455321-26012006><FONT =
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color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>Yes the substitution does work across all =
systems BUT each=20
system needs the SAP_WAPI_SUBSTITUT* prefixed function modules.=20
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<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D116455321-26012006><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>There's no official downgrade but I have =
downgraded them=20
for instance to a 6.20 system and it worked. So the UWL just checks to=20
see</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D116455321-26012006><FONT =
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color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>if the function modules exist. If its not =
working in=20
some of your systems then the function modules are probably missing in =
those=20
systems. </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D116455321-26012006><FONT =
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color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>If you have it working in any of your systems, =
then the=20
function modules must be in the working systems. So.... manually =
copy all=20
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color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>SAP_WAPI_SUBSTITUT* function modules across to =
the=20
non-working systems and you should be fine.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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[mailto:sap-wug-bounces at mit.edu] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Mikko=20
M=E4ki-Rahkola<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, 26 January 2006 6:04 =
PM<BR><B>To:</B> SAP=20
Workflow Users' Group<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: Workflow substitutes in a =
multi SAP=20
system component lanscape<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV>Hi Jerry,</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>I think you have got the wrong information, UWL substitute =
management=20
does link to the backend substitutions and maintains them beautifully in =
the=20
lates versions. I verified this by testing an EP6.0 SP14/ECC5.0 system =
and after=20
maintaining the substitutions of person A in the portal, A:s work items =
were=20
displayed without any problems in person B:s Business Workplace in the =
ECC=20
system. <BR> </DIV>
<DIV>With regards to the substitute management updating multiple =
backends, I=20
wasn't able to test this fully but I put in a screenshot from the =
substitute=20
maintenance screen (attached) which implies that multiple backends can =
be=20
updated. So I would with 99% certainty say that yes, it's possible too. =
</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>I haven't actually done the UWL systems config here but I think =
there's=20
nothing else to it regarding substitutions than configuring the systems. =
Substitution rules can also be maintained in the backend system.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Hope this helps,</DIV>
<DIV>Mikko</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3Dgmail_quote>On 1/26/06, <B =
class=3Dgmail_sendername>jerry=20
martinek</B> <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:jerry.martinek at shawbiz.ca">jerry.martinek at shawbiz.ca</A>&g=
t;=20
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<BLOCKQUOTE class=3Dgmail_quote=20
style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc =
1px solid">Hi=20
All,<BR><BR>I need some help trying to understand and figure out how =
to best=20
proceed with a recommendation/solution for defining workflow =
substitutes in a=20
new SAP installation that includes the following components: Netweaver =
2004S,=20
EP6, SRM5 and ERP 2005. <BR><BR>The client is planning to =
rollout=20
various ESS, MSS, ERP and SRM workflows throughout the organization =
and use=20
the UWL for all workflow scenarios.<BR><BR>Being new to the portal and =
UWL, I=20
been reading and trying different things with respect to maintaining=20
substitutes in the ERP and SRM systems as well as the UWL. =
<BR><BR>I've=20
figured out that the UWL substitute processing is not linked to the =
ERP and=20
SRM functionality. This means that anyone responsible for approvals =
will need=20
to log into the ERP system and define the required personal =
substitutes in the=20
Workflow Inbox and then repeat the same process in the SRM Approval =
tab.=20
<BR><BR>If the above is the only way to define substitutes, then the =
process=20
will not be met with open arms for all sorts of reasons.<BR><BR>As I'm =
new to=20
these new SAP components, am I missing something? There is a simple =
solution=20
to defining substitutes in this type of a system landscape or do you =
need to=20
build something to provide the required/desired single entry point for =
both=20
systems. <BR><BR>Also, what do the UWL substitutes=20
=
provide?<BR><BR>Regards,<BR>Jerry<BR><BR><BR><BR>________________________=
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