WF_ADMIN is dying?

Andy.M.Catherall@csplc.com Andy.M.Catherall at csplc.com
Fri Jan 13 11:16:25 EST 2006


We've gone through a lot of SOX pain here, however the need for WF-BATCH to
have SAP_ALL (and SAP_NEW) has been readily accepted. I've not heard
anything suggesting that the auditors have  been unhappy with this, which
suggests that it meets the requirements for the legislation.

Never used WF-ADMIN. I log on as me, through firefighter IDs.

Andy



                                                                                                                                         
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SAP's document recommends to have SAP_ALL. The main reason is workflow is
cross application it could go to any application area. If you give SAP_ALL
to this system ID you don't have to add security for each Workflow
application that you are going to activate.

Another good point is, this is system id NOT Dialog id so this ID could be
treated as any other Batch id which runs for Background jobs etc.

Bijay Shrestha
Sr. Consultant
Pragmatek Consulting Group


             -----Original Message-----
             From: sap-wug-bounces at mit.edu on behalf of Stephens, Monique S
L
             Sent: Fri 1/13/2006 7:40 AM
             To: SAP Workflow Users' Group
             Cc:
             Subject: RE: WF_ADMIN is dying?



             Our company is about to change security for our non-dialog
users as well because of SOX.  Are you saying that WF-BATCH should keep
SAP_ALL even with SOX?  If so, can you provide me the reasons so that I can
inform our security people.  I agree that the ID should keep SAP_ALL.  But,
I need to give
             them valid reasons.

             Monique Stephens

             -----Original Message-----
             From: sap-wug-bounces at mit.edu [mailto:sap-wug-bounces at mit.edu]
On Behalf Of Dart, Jocelyn
             Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2006 11:27 PM
             To: SAP Workflow Users' Group
             Subject: RE: WF_ADMIN is dying?

             WF-BATCH is the required workflow id.  There is no requirement
for a
             WF-ADMIN or WF_ADMIN or WF_BATCH.
             WF-BATCH must have SAP_ALL - but should also be a non-dialog
user.
             I guess you need to assign your workflow administration
functions to the
             appropriate people
             and put either a single userid or a position/org unit in SWU3,
SWEQADM,
             etc.


             Regards,
             Jocelyn Dart
             Senior Consultant
             SAP Australia Pty Ltd.
             Level 1/168 Walker St.
             North Sydney
             NSW, 2060
             Australia
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             M   + 61 412 390 267
             E   jocelyn.dart at sap.com
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             -----Original Message-----
             From: sap-wug-bounces at mit.edu [mailto:sap-wug-bounces at mit.edu]
On Behalf
             Of Sue Keohan
             Sent: Friday, 13 January 2006 1:27 PM
             To: SAP Workflow Users' Group
             Subject: Re: WF_ADMIN is dying?

             Hi Sherman,

             We don't even use a WF_ADMIN ID. We have WF_BATCH, sure, and
it needs
             all the authorizations, and is a non-dialog account, but as
for the
             actual administrator(s), we specify a user (non-generic) in
customizing,

             and I have the necessary authorizations to trouble-shoot. If I
don't, my

             friends in Basis are very accomodating to help keep the
business
             flowing.

             Hope this helps,
             Sue

             Wright, Sherman wrote:

             > Hi All -
             >
             > Our auditors have informed me that, due to Sarbanes Oxley,
the
             > WF_ADMIN ID in our production system will be changed. The
choices are
             > that it be 1) De-activated; 2) Converted to a NON-Dialog
account; or
             > 3) that it will have the BARE MINIMUM Display-ONLY access.
The idea is

             > that, since we have shared firefighter IDs, one of those can
be used
             > for anything necessary. In trying to document the use and
need for the

             > WF_ADMIN, I went to the SAP Library - SAP Business Workflow
             >
             (
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_erp2004/helpdata/en/a5/172437130e0d09e10000
             009b38f839/frameset.htm)
             > as well as a couple of other sites (SDN, and the WUG
Archives).
             > Surprisingly, I was unable to find ANYTHING about the need
and uses of

             > the WF_ADMIN User ID. Is it a thing of the past? Has
Sarbanes Oxley
             > already killed it (they REALLY don't like "generic" IDs, you
know...)?
             >
             > I have surprisingly mixed feelings about this. I understand
what they
             > are saying, and why they feel the way they do. But at the
same time,
             > I'm used to doing things a certain way (8-1/2 years now) and
I really
             > resent the "intrusion".
             >
             > Anyway, how would YOU feel? IS there a necessity for the
WF_ADMIN ID?
             > Are there things for which ONLY the WF_ADMIN ID should be
used? Can it

             > all be done by properly authorized individuals? Am I
clinging to a
             > relic of the past? I'd really like to hear your opinions...
             >
             > And thank you for letting me vent to the only group of
people that
             > would have any idea of what I'm talking about! :^)
             >
             > Regards,
             > Sherman
             >

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