CATS WORKFLOW

Nash John emailtonash at gmail.com
Wed Dec 27 15:40:02 EST 2006 

thanks Claude, Let me follow what you said. I will keep you posted buddy.

Thanks again :).

-Nash


On 12/27/06, Claude Bourque <cbourque at bank-banque-canada.ca> wrote:
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>  John,
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> In the config of the data entry profile, In the field where you can enter
> the task, enter TS20000460. You don't need to select the org unit.
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> However, hopefully, you do have an existing org structure. When using
> TS20000460 (we use a copy of it), the workflow goes to the employee's
> manager which is determined by the Chief of an org unit.
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> The best way to find out if this exists is to test it with transaction
> PFAC. Go to PFAC, enter rule 157 (the default rule for TS20000460), click
> the display icon, followed by the simulate icon. In the Pers Resp. field,
> enter P followed by space followed by the personnel number (e.g. P
> 07000833) then hit the test icon. You should see the employee's manager's
> position number. Click the Agent <-> User icon to get the User ID. If it
> returns nothing, you may not have an org structure.
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> To confirm the existence of an org structure, use transaction PPOSW and
> search by org unit. Enter your employee's org unit and then search.
> Double-click the org unit that appears in the hit list in the lower
> left-hand side to see the overview on the right. The manager's position has
> a little hat next to it. All the employees in that org unit will have their
> timesheet go to the holder of that position if you use TS20000460.
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> Keep me posted.
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> Claude
>  -----Original Message-----
> *From:* sap-wug-bounces at mit.edu [mailto:sap-wug-bounces at mit.edu] *On
> Behalf Of *Nash John
> *Sent:* December 27, 2006 1:41 PM
> *To:* SAP Workflow Users' Group
> *Subject:* Re: CATS WORKFLOW
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>  Can you have a fresh look into my scenario. It goes like this
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>  Our client want to use Org unit to determine approver.
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>  Say A is the supervisor of B,
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> B the supervisor of C,
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>  C the supervisor of D,
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> D the supervisor of E.
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> Now when E creates time sheet, using org unit workflow should
> automatically rout time sheet for approval to D. Similarly when D creates it
> should go to C and so on.
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> What I learned is in the scenario we have to use TS20000460(???).
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> In spro under 'Setup data entry profile' under the tab 'person selection',
> I selected org.unit and found following help note
> Person Selection by Organizational Unit
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> Determines that the system selects all personnel numbers assigned to a
> specified organizational unit, when you call the data entry profile.
> Dependencies
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> Personnel numbers are assigned to an organizational unit
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> a) By specifying a position in the Personnel Actions infotype (0000) in HR
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> b) By maintaining the staffing schedule
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> You can use the user parameter PON (object ID PD) to determine which
> organizational unit the system uses to select the personnel numbers.
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> I didn't fully understand above help so can you please tell me how to *
> tell* workflow touse  a particular org unit?.
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>  On 12/27/06, Nash John <emailtonash at gmail.com> wrote:
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> >  As always thanks Claude. Thanks a lot.You are a good samaritan.
> >
> > -Nash
> >
> >
> >  On 12/27/06, Claude Bourque <cbourque at bank-banque-canada.ca > wrote:
> >
> > >  You should check to see if the employee you are testing has a time
> > > administrator entered in the Org Assignment infotype (IT0001).
> > >
> > > Go to transaction PA20, enter the personnel number, then enter 1 in
> > > the infotype field followed by the display icon. In the lower right-hand
> > > side of the org assignment infotype, you'll see 3 fields (Pers Admin, Time
> > > Admin and Payroll Admin). The workflow will only work if the Time Admin
> > > field is populated. The values for the 3 fields come from table T526 where
> > > you link the Administrators to their user ids.
> > >
> > > Claude
> > >  -----Original Message-----
> > > *From:* sap-wug-bounces at mit.edu [mailto:sap-wug-bounces at mit.edu] *On
> > > Behalf Of *Nash John
> > > *Sent:* December 26, 2006 9:08 AM
> > > *To:* SAP Workflow Users' Group
> > > *Subject:* Re: CATS WORKFLOW
> > >
> > >  Hi,
> > >
> > > Now when I test my workflow I'm getting following error 'workflow
> > > agent cannot be determined'.
> > > Following are the setting I did in workflow as well as in SPRO.
> > >
> > > 1. I'm using task 'TS20000459' - TIME ADMIN
> > > 2. made TS20000459 as 'general task'.
> > > 3. used the varient "WORKFLOW'
> > > 4. under 'setup data entry profile' in spro did following:
> > >
> > >                      i) under 'person selection' tab selected radio
> > > button 'Time Administrator'.
> > >                      ii)under 'Approval' i selected 'with approval
> > > procedure'.
> > >                      iii)under 'workflow' i've put the task TS20000459
> > > also selected both
> > >                        checkbox named  'with business workflow' and
> > > 'with Auto determination of agent'.
> > >                    Is there any specific config need to be done for
> > > 'Automatic determination of agent'? Where is what I missing :(.
> > >
> > > Thanks a lot.
> > >
> > > -Nash
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >  On 12/11/06, Claude Bourque < cbourque at bank-banque-canada.ca> wrote:
> > >
> > > >   John,
> > > >
> > > > I just noticed my typo for no 2. TS20000460 is the supervisor not
> > > > the time admin.
> > > >
> > > > Good luck.
> > > >
> > > > Claude
> > > >  -----Original Message-----
> > > > *From:* sap-wug-bounces at mit.edu [mailto:sap-wug-bounces at mit.edu] *On
> > > > Behalf Of *Nash John
> > > > *Sent:* December 11, 2006 1:32 PM
> > > > *To:* SAP Workflow Users' Group
> > > > *Subject:* Re: CATS WORKFLOW
> > > >
> > > >   Thanks Claude, i appreciate it.
> > > >
> > > > I'll work on it keeping in mind what ever you mentioned. of course I
> > > > will get back to you if I run in to any issue(s) :).
> > > >
> > > > _nash john
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >  On 12/11/06, Claude Bourque < cbourque at bank-banque-canada.ca >
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >   John,
> > > > >
> > > > > SAP delivered 3 CATS approval TS's up to 4.7:
> > > > >
> > > > > 1. TS20000459: CATS approval by time administrator (time entry
> > > > > user as per Infotype 0001 on the employee file)
> > > > > 2. TS20000460: CATS approval by time administrator as per rule
> > > > > AC00000157
> > > > > 3. TS40007901: Pop-up when user is saving timesheet. User selects
> > > > > one of the possible agents.
> > > > >
> > > > > Although I haven't played much with ECC 6.0, I do know that there
> > > > > are 3 new TS's.
> > > > >
> > > > > 4. TS31000006: A new version of TS20000459
> > > > > 5. TS31000007: A new version of TS20000460
> > > > > 6. TS31000004: A new version of TS40007901
> > > > >
> > > > > Your config is still IMG: Cross-Application Components -> Time
> > > > > Sheet -> Specific Settings for CATS classic -> Set Up Data Entry Profiles
> > > > >  (for R/3 use) or use Specific Settings for CATS regular (for ESS using
> > > > > CATW).
> > > > >
> > > > > In the Data Entry Profile, select the With Approval Procedure
> > > > > option, check the box With SAPBusiness Workflow and in the task box called
> > > > > Task enter one of the 6 TS's listed above (or a copy of one of them as we
> > > > > did). It's this task that SAP_WAPI_START_WORKFLOW uses.
> > > > >
> > > > > Starting in 4.7, you have the make the standard task a general
> > > > > task because even the data entry person has to be a possible agent otherwise
> > > > > you get an error upon saving.
> > > > >
> > > > > Hope this helps.
> > > > >
> > > > > Claude
> > > > >  -----Original Message-----
> > > > > *From:* sap-wug-bounces at mit.edu [mailto:sap-wug-bounces at mit.edu] *On
> > > > > Behalf Of *Nash John
> > > > > *Sent:* December 11, 2006 11:00 AM
> > > > > *To:* SAP Workflow Users' Group
> > > > > *Subject:* Re: CATS WORKFLOW
> > > > >
> > > > >   Thanks Claude. Like you said since the workflow is triggered by
> > > > > FM, can you tell what config need to be done(IMG). Can you please send me
> > > > > any documentation if you have since you have already worked on similar
> > > > > scenario.
> > > > >
> > > > > Again thanks a lot Claude.
> > > > >
> > > > > -nash john
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >  On 12/11/06, Claude Bourque < cbourque at bank-banque-canada.ca >
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > >   Not sure about ECC 6.0 but in good old Enterprise (4.7), the
> > > > > > problem is that in the CATS Data Entry profile config (table TCATS), you
> > > > > > have to insert the TS directly in a field. Thus, no WS, therefore, no easy
> > > > > > way to do deadlines and other neat things offered by the WS.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > We tried using a bogus TS that simply calls a WS but that seems
> > > > > > to create other problems.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Debugging the CATS ABAP code reveals that SAP uses
> > > > > > SAP_WAPI_START_WORKFLOW to start the workflow using the TS inserted in the
> > > > > > TCATS table.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > A CATS.CREATED event is also triggered in the code so you can't
> > > > > > use that event since the TS is already started.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I can say that you can use your own rule to determine agents
> > > > > > because we did and it works fine.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hopefully, I haven't put a damper on your initiative.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Claude
> > > > > >  -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > *From:* sap-wug-bounces at mit.edu [mailto:sap-wug-bounces at mit.edu]
> > > > > > *On Behalf Of *Nash John
> > > > > > *Sent:* December 11, 2006 10:19 AM
> > > > > > *To:* SAP Workflow Users' Group
> > > > > > *Subject:* CATS WORKFLOW
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hi friends,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I've to do CATS approval workflow on ECC 6.0 and my functional
> > > > > > asked me to look into WS40001001. One thing I noticed is that of the two
> > > > > > tasks in the workflow one of the tasks TS20000495 is absolute; I mean it is
> > > > > > not available in the system. Also at present we don't have org structure so
> > > > > > I'm planning to write custom rule to determining agent from custom table.
> > > > > > Does this approach helps?. This is quite urgent requirement hence client
> > > > > > want it be done as soon as possible �not waiting for org structure to set up
> > > > > > as it will take another 5 months for that.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Can you tell me what is the business object to be used also is
> > > > > > there any IMG config to be done?. If 'Yes' what are those. Points wll be
> > > > > > awarded to all useful answers. Thanks a lot friends
> > > > > > -Nash
> > > > > >
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