Executing SRM(EBP) work item in Enterprise Portal 6.0's UWL

Athur Krishna athur.krishna at gmail.com
Fri Sep 9 23:35:39 EDT 2005


Hi Collins,
 just a quick speculation, check whether the AGATE is alive. I have a strong 
feeling that the AGATE got crashed.
 -Krishna

 On 9/9/05, Collins Obiosa-Maife <comaife at yahoo.co.uk> wrote: 
> 
> Hello Jocelyn, Krishna
>  Thanks a lot for all your very useful suggestions.
>  I decided to re-configure the entire UWL to determine where I could have 
> made a mistake or sth. I deleted the custom xml, as well as the default xml 
> generated after registering the work items/systems.Then I removed all the 
> settings I made in the UWL MiniApp iview.
>  Afterwards, I re-registered the systems, and used cleared the cache.
> Then I launched the work items in the UWL, but a blank screen was 
> displayed again.
> However, the SRM Admin observed that the user didnt have some RFC 
> transactions,while running a runtime check, and I asked him to assign those 
> txns.
>  The work item was launched again, and I noticed that the UWL MiniApp 
> iview was called automatically, but there was an error message displayed 
> instead of a blank screen ( it took about 5-10mins for this page to 
> display). Here's the message:
> "500 ITS Error *Communication problem: The web server extension (WGate) 
> failed to receive a response from the ITS web service*."
>  I have coducted further search on the sap.service site and found some SAP 
> Notes that refer to this problem viz:*646601*and *676253*, however, the 
> latter isnt available*.*
> I also found a document and a ".par " file titled *SAP Webflow Execution 
> Handler.*
> ** 
> *Could these be a solution to the problem?*
> 
> Thanks.
>  
> Regards,
> 
> Collins
> 
> ** 
> 
> *"Dart, Jocelyn" <jocelyn.dart at sap.com>* wrote:
> 
>  Krishna, 
> Of course the current SRM templates are ITS based - so the choice of 
> miniapp is reasonable. But I don't believe this step is necessary unless it 
> is explicitly stated in the implementation guide in which case all 
> information about application parameters would be there. 
>  
> Regards, 
> *Jocelyn Dart* 
> Senior Consultant 
> *SAP Australia Pty Ltd.* 
> Level 1/168 Walker St. 
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> NSW, 2060 
> Australia 
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> *From:* sap-wug-bounces at mit.edu [mailto:sap-wug-bounces at mit.edu] *On 
> Behalf Of *Athur Krishna
> *Sent:* Friday, 09 September 2005 9:52 AM
> *To:* SAP Workflow Users' Group
> *Subject:* Re: Executing SRM(EBP) work item in Enterprise Portal 6.0's UWL
> 
>  Hi Collins,
>  The application parameter is additional parameter option to be passed to 
> the application or transaction.
> I dont think that would be of much use here, I dont have much knowledege 
> in workflow as such and its transactions.
>  but why would you need a Launch Mini app? I mean there are 4 types of GUI 
> (SAP GUI for windows being common).
>  1) SAP GUI for Windows (Mostly Used)
> 2) SAP GUI for Java (for Non Windos OS)
> 3) SAP GUI for HTML (Used by ITS - Not many use these days except for few 
> specific applications like ESS)
> 4) SAP Launch MiniApp (ITS Specific Template based Control)
>  -Krishna
> 
> 
>  On 9/8/05, Collins Obiosa-Maife <comaife at yahoo.co.uk> wrote: 
> > 
> >  Hello Jocelyn,
> > Please see my response in red
> > 
> > *"Dart, Jocelyn" < jocelyn.dart at sap.com>* wrote:
> > 
> > Sounds like you have a problem with BBP_QUOT_EXTWF itself.....Yes .
> >  Have you checked it runs ok when you run the inbox directly from SRM 
> > rather than the portal?.... I have checked and it runs well, both in 
> > BBPBWSP and BBPAPPROVAL.
> > Have you checked your launch mechanism is pointing to the correct ITS - 
> > internal or external whichever you one you are using?... I have checked 
> > the parameters in the system landscape of the Portal, and it is okay (I 
> > presume thats what makes it possible for the portal to have SSO with the 
> > SRM, please correct me if I am wrong) 
> > I'd also suggest checking the launch hyperlink itself to see if there 
> > are any parameters missing, e.g. WI_ID....The launch parameters that I 
> > obtained from the URL of the shows the work item ID, and some other 
> > parameters SAP CLIENT,etc...
> >  Also check if there are any notes re this transaction and make sure you 
> > have them implemented....I've checked the service.sap site and found 
> > some Notes, but none of them refer directly to the problem...e.g 506377, 
> > 690716
> >  Otherwise I would report it in through the usual official channels....before 
> > you do, I'd like to ask one last question...in the property editor view of 
> > the UWL Launch MiniApp iView, there's a column for *Application 
> > Parameters (please see attached file), what parameters are required in this 
> > case?*
> > ** 
> > Thanks a lot.
> >  Collins.
> >  
> > Regards, 
> > *Jocelyn Dart* 
> > Senior Consultant 
> > *SAP Australia Pty Ltd.* 
> > Level 1/168 Walker St. 
> > North Sydney 
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> > *From:* sap-wug-bounces at mit.edu [mailto: sap-wug-bounces at mit.edu] *On 
> > Behalf Of *Collins Obiosa-Maife
> > *Sent:* Thursday, 08 September 2005 11:49 PM
> > *To:* SAP Workflow Users' Group
> > *Subject:* RE: Executing SRM(EBP) work item in Enterprise Portal 6.0's 
> > UWL
> > 
> >  Hello Jocelyn,
> >  I identified the task (TS........) I needed from the XML file generated 
> > after registering the SRM system in the UWL Administration. Then I copied 
> > the section of the XML with the task, and used it to create a custom XML 
> > file (I followed documentation from SDN and help.sap). I didnt create an 
> > XML file from scratch.
> > However, the ITS txn (BBP_QUOT_EXTWF) that should launch the work item 
> > from the UWL (EP6.0 SP9) didnt display when the work item is executed, 
> > instead a blank screen is displayed. 
> >  Then I replaced that txn with BBPAPPROVAL in the XML , and when the 
> > work item is executed in the UWL, the Approval Inbox in the SRM is displayed 
> > with all the work items. 
> > Hence, the user has to execute the work item in the SRM Inbox (the 
> > second time) before the Approval screen is displayed.
> >  The iview that displays the Approval Inbox is the UWL Launch MiniApp. 
> > I'd like to know the difference between BBPAPPROVAL and BBP_QUOT_EXTWF, 
> > and why the UWL Launch MiniApp iview could not generate the BBP_QUOT_EXTWF.
> >  Thanks in advance.
> >  Regards,
> > Collins
> > 
> > 
> > *"Dart, Jocelyn" <jocelyn.dart at sap.com>* wrote:
> > 
> >  Collins,
> >  Are you sure you've registered the work items for your SRM system in 
> > the UWL Administration iview in Portal Administration correctly? The XML 
> > should be generated for you without you having to change the files yourself. 
> > 
> >  Make sure you clear the cache after re-registering the work items. 
> >  You really shouldn't have to be creating your own XML files to launch 
> > SRM work items - this is all standard stuff. 
> >  
> > Regards, 
> > *Jocelyn Dart* 
> > Senior Consultant 
> > *SAP Australia Pty Ltd.* 
> > Level 1/168 Walker St. 
> > North Sydney 
> > NSW, 2060 
> > Australia 
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> > M + 61 412 390 267 
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> >  ------------------------------
> > *From:* sap-wug-bounces at mit.edu [mailto: sap-wug-bounces at mit.edu] *On 
> > Behalf Of *Collins Obiosa-Maife
> > *Sent:* Thursday, 08 September 2005 5:43 AM
> > *To:* SAP Workflow Users' Group
> > *Subject:* Re: Executing SRM(EBP) work item in Enterprise Portal 6.0's 
> > UWL
> > 
> >  Hello Krishna,
> >  I tried the BBPAPPROVAL, and it works just fine. However it still shows 
> > all the work items fom the Inbox. The solution I want to implement should 
> > display the Approval Window of one work item (bbp_quot_extwf) once the work 
> > item is executed in the UWL. 
> >  I have used this *bbp_quot_extwf* the same way I used *bbpapproval *and
> > * bbpbwsp,* but the work items are not displayed at all.
> >  What's the difference between these set of transactions, and which 
> > transactions are considered as MiniApps?
> > Thanks in advance.
> >  Collins.
> > 
> > *Athur Krishna <athur.krishna at gmail.com>* wrote:
> > 
> >  Hi Collins,
> >  BBPAPPROVAL is the transaction 
> > -Krishna
> > 
> >  On 9/7/05, Collins Obiosa-Maife < comaife at yahoo.co.uk> wrote: 
> > 
> > >  Hello krishna,
> > > Thanks a lot. I have been able to display the SRM Inbox after 
> > > executing the work item in the UWL.However, instead of displaying the 
> > > detail of the work item, the whole SRM Inbox is displayed when a task is 
> > > executed.
> > > Here's what I did to achieve this:
> > >  
> > > <Actions>
> > > 
> > > <Action name="*launchMiniApp*" groupAction="no" handler="*
> > > SAPMiniAppLauncher*" 
> > > 
> > > returnToDetailViewAllowed="yes" launchInNewWindow="no">
> > > 
> > > <Properties>
> > > 
> > > <Property name="Template" value="*BBPBWSP*"/>
> > > 
> > > </Properties>
> > > 
> > > <Descriptions default="Launch SAP Task">
> > > 
> > > <ShortDescriptions>
> > > 
> > > <Description Language="en" Description=" Launch SAP Task"/>
> > > 
> > > </ShortDescriptions>
> > > 
> > > </Descriptions>
> > > 
> > > </Action>
> > > 
> > > </Actions>
> > > Then I used the same *BBPBWSP* in the *UWL Launch MiniApp iview*.
> > >  Obviously, this is not the solution I had anticipated, but its a step 
> > > in the right direction.
> > >  I'd appreciate if you could explain what transaction or ITS Service 
> > > to use to display the details 
> > >  of a task/work-item rather than the entire Web Inbox.
> > >   Thanks in advance.
> > >  Collins.
> > > 
> > > *Athur Krishna <athur.krishna at gmail.com>* wrote:
> > > 
> > >  Hi Collins,
> > >  Here is the snippet of the UWL to Launch GUI for different task
> > >  <Actions>
> > > <Action name="launchSAPAction" userDecision="no" 
> > > handler="SAPTransactionLauncher" referenceBundle="launch_sap">
> > > <Properties>
> > > <Property name="GuiType" value="WinGui"/> 
> > > </Properties>
> > > <Descriptions default=""/>
> > > </Action>
> > > </Actions>
> > >  As I said before I tried to use SRM inbox in portal but coz of the 
> > > "Substitution" button i could not, hence made it seperate.
> > >  -Krishna
> > > 
> > > 
> > >   On 9/7/05, Collins Obiosa-Maife < comaife at yahoo.co.uk > wrote: 
> > > 
> > > >  I am really sorry about this. I have created a new subject.
> > > > I'll try clearing the cache for all the systems in the portal. I 
> > > > cleared it for just the system the xml file was assigned to. 
> > > > Thanks a lot.
> > > >  *"Dart, Jocelyn" <jocelyn.dart at sap.com>* wrote:
> > > > 
> > > >  Did you remember to clear the cache in UWL administration? Doesn't 
> > > > take effect until you do that. 
> > > >  Also PLEASE STOP USING THIS SUBJECT - create your own subject. 
> > > >  See the WUG FAQ.
> > > >  
> > > > Regards, 
> > > > *Jocelyn Dart* 
> > > > Senior Consultant 
> > > > *SAP Australia Pty Ltd.* 
> > > > Level 1/168 Walker St. 
> > > > North Sydney 
> > > > NSW, 2060 
> > > > Australia 
> > > > T +61 412 390 267 
> > > > M + 61 412 390 267 
> > > > E jocelyn.dart at sap.com 
> > > > http://www.sap.com 
> > > > 
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> > > >  
> > > >  ------------------------------
> > > > *From:* sap-wug-bounces at mit.edu [mailto: sap-wug-bounces at mit.edu] *On 
> > > > Behalf Of *Collins Obiosa-Maife
> > > > *Sent:* Thursday, 08 September 2005 1:10 AM
> > > > *To:* SAP Workflow Users' Group
> > > > *Subject:* Re: Portal - UWL vs. SAP Business Workplace 
> > > > 
> > > >  Hello Krishna,
> > > > Thanks a lot. I was able to locate the iview, the screenshot was 
> > > > very helpful, however, I tried to implement it, but it didnt work.
> > > > Here's a list of the actions I have undertaken thus far:
> > > >  1) Configured the UWL to display the SAP Inbox (SAP GUI for HTML is 
> > > > the default-SWK1)
> > > > 2)Configured the XML for the registered work items to display task 
> > > > (below)
> > > >   
> > > > *<?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?>*
> > > > 
> > > > *<!DOCTYPE UWLConfiguration PUBLIC '-//SAP//UWL1.0//EN' 
> > > > 'uwl_configuration.dtd' [ *
> > > > 
> > > > *]>*
> > > > 
> > > > *<UWLConfiguration version="1.0">*
> > > > 
> > > > *<ItemTypes>*
> > > > 
> > > > *<ItemType name="uwl.task.webflow.TS90500039" 
> > > > connector="WebFlowConnector" defaultView="webflowView" *
> > > > 
> > > > *defaultAction="launchMiniApp"> *
> > > > 
> > > > *<ItemTypeCriteria externalType="TS90500039" 
> > > > connector="WebFlowConnector"/>*
> > > > 
> > > > *<Actions>*
> > > > 
> > > > *<Action name="launchMiniApp" groupAction="no" 
> > > > handler="SAPMiniAppLauncher" *
> > > > 
> > > > *returnToDetailViewAllowed="yes" launchInNewWindow="no">*
> > > > 
> > > > *<Properties>*
> > > > 
> > > > *<Property name="Template" value="BBP_QUOT_EXTWF"/>*
> > > > 
> > > > *</Properties>*
> > > > 
> > > > *<Descriptions default="Launch SAP Task">*
> > > > 
> > > > *<ShortDescriptions>*
> > > > 
> > > > *<Description Language="en" Description=" Launch SAP Task"/>*
> > > > 
> > > > *</ShortDescriptions>*
> > > > 
> > > > *</Descriptions>*
> > > > 
> > > > *</Action>*
> > > > 
> > > > *</Actions>*
> > > > 
> > > > *</ItemType>*
> > > > 
> > > > *</ItemTypes>*
> > > > 
> > > > *</UWLConfiguration>*
> > > > 
> > > > 3) Assigned the above xml to the workflow system in the portal
> > > > 4) Used the UWL-Launch MiniApp to display the ITS Template
> > > >  in the XML w/out success.
> > > >  My questions are: 
> > > > 1) How does the UWL- Launch SAP Transaction or UWL -Launch MiniApp 
> > > > work?
> > > > 2) Is there anyone in the forum who has configured the UWL to 
> > > > display the SRM Web Inbox, and executed them from the portal, and how was it 
> > > > done?
> > > >  Thanks in advance.
> > > >   
> > > > 
> > > > *Athur Krishna <athur.krishna at gmail.com>* wrote:
> > > > 
> > > >  Hi Collins,
> > > >  Pls find the Iview named "UWL - Launch SAP Transaction" 
> > > > edit this iview and in property category pulldown menu click "show 
> > > > all" and find for "SAP GUI Type".
> > > >  find the attached image.
> > > >  -Krishna
> > > > 
> > > >  On 9/5/05, Collins Obiosa-Maife < comaife at yahoo.co.uk > wrote: 
> > > > 
> > > > >  Hello Arthur,
> > > > > I have followed the path you described, but I didnt see any "SAP 
> > > > > GUI Type" property in the Property Editor of the UWL iview.
> > > > > Please could you be more specific?
> > > > > Thanks. 
> > > > > 
> > > > > *Athur Krishna <athur.krishna at gmail.com> *wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > >  Hi Collins,
> > > > >  If you want all of your INBOX items to open in a different GUI 
> > > > > (like Win GUI ). then
> > > > > change the "SAP GUI Type" in Content Provided By SAP -> End User 
> > > > > Content -> Iviews -> UWL - Launch SAP Transaction.
> > > > >  -Krishna
> > > > > 
> > > > >   On 9/5/05, Collins Obiosa-Maife < comaife at yahoo.co.uk > wrote: 
> > > > > 
> > > > > >  Hello Workflow Experts,
> > > > > > I have configured the UWL in Enterprise Portal 6.0 using a "How 
> > > > > > To" document from the SDN, as well as the SAP HELP documentation. 
> > > > > > The work items in the UWL Inbox are SAP GUI for HTML. However, I 
> > > > > > want to display work items from the SRM's Inbox which has added 
> > > > > > functionalities.
> > > > > > Does anyone have a clue as to resolving this dilemma?
> > > > > > Thanks in advance.
> > > > > > Collins. 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > *Athur Krishna <athur.krishna at gmail.com> *wrote:
> > > > > >  
> > > > > >  Hi All,
> > > > > >  Thanks to Greg,Jocelyn,Peter and others for sharing their 
> > > > > > knowledge.
> > > > > >  just one more clarification, 
> > > > > >  assuming that I have configured both SRM and R/3 inbox in UWL 
> > > > > > (basically registering the system).
> > > > > >   SRM needs "Substitution" option and R/3 does not need.
> > > > > >  and all my inbox in UWL will be flooded with both SRM and R/3 
> > > > > > approvals , considering that "Substitution" is available in EP 
> > > > > > 6.0 stack 12, so how do I enable / disable "Substitution" 
> > > > > > specifically for R/3 and SRM approval workitems. 
> > > > > >  Thanks,
> > > > > > -Krishna
> > > > > >    
> > > > > >  
> > > > > > 
> > > > > >  On 9/2/05, Collins Obiosa-Maife < comaife at yahoo.co.uk > wrote: 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > >  Hello Jocelyn,
> > > > > > > Thanks for this contribution. However, I'd like to know if 
> > > > > > > there's a documentation that describes how to display the SRM Inbox in the 
> > > > > > > UWL? I need this solution to tie the work items in my SRM Inbox to the UWL.
> > > > > > > Thanks in advance.
> > > > > > >  Collins 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > *"Dart, Jocelyn" <jocelyn.dart at sap.com >* wrote:
> > > > > > >  
> > > > > > >  Folks, 
> > > > > > > Substitution IS standard in the UWL as of EP 6.0 support stack 
> > > > > > > 12.
> > > > > > >  Forwarding, reserve/replace and the other items you 
> > > > > > > specifically mentioned Sherman are also already included in the UWL. As 
> > > > > > > always make sure you are on the highest support stack to get the maximum 
> > > > > > > bug/performance improvements and latest functionality. 
> > > > > > >  You should also be aware that SAP considers the UWL as the 
> > > > > > > main workflow inbox from a future-direction perspective. 
> > > > > > >  While it still has a few rough edges compared to the more 
> > > > > > > mature SBWP these are gradually being smoothed out. Similarly the 
> > > > > > > documentation on configuration options is improving. 
> > > > > > >  As Peter has pointed out the UWL has some advantages when 
> > > > > > > dealing with web-based services. 
> > > > > > >  It is also the only inbox which allows you to easily combine 
> > > > > > > all work items from all of your SAP systems. 
> > > > > > >  Another consideration is that the UWL has already become not 
> > > > > > > just the workflow inbox but the Alert Management inbox as well, so it has 
> > > > > > > dual functionality. 
> > > > > > >  You also get Collaboration Tasks (ad-hoc workflow ) in the 
> > > > > > > UWL which are not available in SBWP. 
> > > > > > >   Regards, 
> > > > > > > *Jocelyn Dart* 
> > > > > > > Senior Consultant 
> > > > > > > *SAP Australia Pty Ltd.* 
> > > > > > > Level 1/168 Walker St. 
> > > > > > > North Sydney 
> > > > > > > NSW, 2060 
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> > > > > > > *From:* sap-wug-bounces at mit.edu [mailto:sap-wug-bounces at mit.edu] 
> > > > > > > *On Behalf Of *Peter Carroll
> > > > > > > *Sent:* Friday, 02 September 2005 10:05 AM
> > > > > > > *To:* 'SAP Workflow Users' Group'
> > > > > > > *Subject:* RE: Portal - UWL vs. SAP Business Workplace
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > >  We also coded the substitution function for use inthe portal, 
> > > > > > > basically a copy of the standard SBWP code.
> > > > > > >  But when comparing the UWL and the SBWP my question is why 
> > > > > > > would anyone use something that is a half baked copy of the real thing ? 
> > > > > > >  The UWL is flaky and hard to configure - maybe it is just me 
> > > > > > > but I still cannot get the same task to come up under more than one filter 
> > > > > > > on the open tasks tab etc 
> > > > > > >   Other points to consider
> > > > > > > *The UWL is slower than the SBWP.
> > > > > > >  *Depending on the nature of the task, business HTML in 
> > > > > > > separate window or some java ones, the task just executed is still in the 
> > > > > > > open tasks list after it has been just processed - users hate this as they 
> > > > > > > are unsure if item has been executed or not. 
> > > > > > >  *Under some circumstances if the user double clicks on the 
> > > > > > > item a lock error is received, a note describes this but offers no solution. 
> > > > > > >  *The documentation to use and configure the UWL is totally 
> > > > > > > inadaquate and unless one of the examples in it exactly matches your needs 
> > > > > > > you will struggle 
> > > > > > >  *The loss of chained execution(advance with dialogue) is hard 
> > > > > > > to take and makes simple things complex.
> > > > > > >  Be careful if you use the UWL, but in my opinion you are 
> > > > > > > better off on just one platform as you will be hard pressed to satisfy users 
> > > > > > > of both with the one WF. In particular screens that use business HTML, are 
> > > > > > > generated from the container of the WF or are written in Java present major 
> > > > > > > problems when used in the SBWP. 
> > > > > > >  Peter Carroll
> > > > > > >   
> > > > > > >  ------------------------------
> > > > > > > *From:* sap-wug-bounces at mit.edu [mailto:sap-wug-bounces at mit.edu] 
> > > > > > > *On Behalf Of *Athur Krishna
> > > > > > > *Sent:* Friday, 2 September 2005 0:19
> > > > > > > *To:* SAP Workflow Users' Group
> > > > > > > *Subject:* Re: Portal - UWL vs. SAP Business Workplace
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > >  Hi Greg,
> > > > > > >   One small question, EBP Approvals have the "Substitution" 
> > > > > > > option, How did you achive that in UWL since UWL by default does not come 
> > > > > > > with "Substitute" option.
> > > > > > >  Thanks,
> > > > > > > -Krishna
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > >  On 9/1/05, Gregory Utley < Gregory.Utley at citrix.com > wrote: 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > >  All,
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > We just converted from the SAP Office inbox to the UWL with 
> > > > > > > > the implementation of the SAP Portal. The big plus for users here is one 
> > > > > > > > stop shopping, i.e., all SAP Office inboxes (R/3, EBP, ESS) 
> > > > > > > > are now available in one place. Before, users had to enter via SBWP to 
> > > > > > > > approve separately in each system. The biggest negative with the UWL is the 
> > > > > > > > loss of the "advance with dialog" feature. We've had to write custom code to 
> > > > > > > > compensate for this. I think this is a major loss, although I haven't seen 
> > > > > > > > any other complaints on WUG on the topic. 
> > > > > > > >  
> > > > > > > > *Greg Utley*
> > > > > > > >  ------------------------------
> > > > > > > >  
> > > > > > > > *From:* sap-wug-bounces at mit.edu [mailto:sap-wug-bounces at mit.edu] 
> > > > > > > > *On Behalf Of *Sherman Wright
> > > > > > > > *Sent:* Wednesday, August 31, 2005 2:52 PM
> > > > > > > > *To:* UserGroup, Workflow
> > > > > > > > *Subject:* Portal - UWL vs. SAP Business Workplace
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > >  Hi � 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > We are using Portal 6.0, and because of unfamiliarity, etc., 
> > > > > > > > etc., we had replaced the Universal Work List (UWL) with the SAP Business 
> > > > > > > > Workplace (transaction SBWP) using Windows HTML GUI. We have a handful of 
> > > > > > > > workflow approval tasks (PR approvals, Fixed Asset retirement approvals, 
> > > > > > > > Absence Request approvals, etc.) that we route to people in their Workflow 
> > > > > > > > Inboxes, which should be available with either "tool". 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > We are in the process of moving from SAP R/3 4.6B to MySAP 
> > > > > > > > ERP (ECC 5.0). In light of this, I have been asked to 
> > > > > > > > provide pros and cons regarding replacing the Business Workplace with the 
> > > > > > > > UWL, since the UWL is the default tool in Portal. Do any of you have any 
> > > > > > > > strong arguments either for or against the use of UWL as opposed to the 
> > > > > > > > Business Workplace? Some of our users really like the ability to do their 
> > > > > > > > automatic forwarding, substitution maintenance, outbox maintenance, etc., 
> > > > > > > > from Portal. Most of these things especially don't seem to be available in 
> > > > > > > > the UWL. 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Any information would be appreciated�
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Regards,
> > > > > > > > Sherman
> > > > > > > > 
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