Portal - UWL vs. SAP Business Workplace

Athur Krishna athur.krishna at gmail.com
Mon Sep 5 16:17:30 EDT 2005


Hi Collins,
 If you want all of your INBOX items to open in a different GUI (like Win 
GUI ). then
change the "SAP GUI Type" in Content Provided By SAP -> End User Content -> 
Iviews -> UWL - Launch SAP Transaction.
 -Krishna

 On 9/5/05, Collins Obiosa-Maife <comaife at yahoo.co.uk> wrote: 
> 
> Hello Workflow Experts,
> I have configured the UWL in Enterprise Portal 6.0 using a "How To" 
> document from the SDN, as well as the SAP HELP documentation. 
> The work items in the UWL Inbox are SAP GUI for HTML. However, I want to 
> display work items from the SRM's Inbox which has added functionalities.
> Does anyone have a clue as to resolving this dilemma?
> Thanks in advance.
> Collins. 
> 
> *Athur Krishna <athur.krishna at gmail.com>* wrote:
>  
> Hi All,
>  Thanks to Greg,Jocelyn,Peter and others for sharing their knowledge.
>  just one more clarification, 
>  assuming that I have configured both SRM and R/3 inbox in UWL (basically 
> registering the system).
>   SRM needs "Substitution" option and R/3 does not need.
>  and all my inbox in UWL will be flooded with both SRM and R/3 approvals , 
> considering that "Substitution" is available in EP 6.0 stack 12, so how do 
> I enable / disable "Substitution" specifically for R/3 and SRM approval 
> workitems. 
>  Thanks,
> -Krishna
>    
>  
> 
>  On 9/2/05, Collins Obiosa-Maife <comaife at yahoo.co.uk> wrote: 
> > 
> > Hello Jocelyn,
> > Thanks for this contribution. However, I'd like to know if there's a 
> > documentation that describes how to display the SRM Inbox in the UWL? I need 
> > this solution to tie the work items in my SRM Inbox to the UWL.
> > Thanks in advance.
> >  Collins 
> > 
> > *"Dart, Jocelyn" <jocelyn.dart at sap.com >* wrote:
> >  
> > Folks, 
> > Substitution IS standard in the UWL as of EP 6.0 support stack 12.
> >  Forwarding, reserve/replace and the other items you specifically 
> > mentioned Sherman are also already included in the UWL. As always make sure 
> > you are on the highest support stack to get the maximum bug/performance 
> > improvements and latest functionality. 
> >  You should also be aware that SAP considers the UWL as the main 
> > workflow inbox from a future-direction perspective. 
> >  While it still has a few rough edges compared to the more mature SBWP 
> > these are gradually being smoothed out. Similarly the documentation on 
> > configuration options is improving. 
> >  As Peter has pointed out the UWL has some advantages when dealing with 
> > web-based services. 
> >  It is also the only inbox which allows you to easily combine all work 
> > items from all of your SAP systems. 
> >  Another consideration is that the UWL has already become not just the 
> > workflow inbox but the Alert Management inbox as well, so it has dual 
> > functionality. 
> >  You also get Collaboration Tasks (ad-hoc workflow ) in the UWL which 
> > are not available in SBWP. 
> >   Regards, 
> > *Jocelyn Dart* 
> > Senior Consultant 
> > *SAP Australia Pty Ltd.* 
> > Level 1/168 Walker St. 
> > North Sydney 
> > NSW, 2060 
> > Australia 
> > T +61 412 390 267 
> > M + 61 412 390 267 
> > E jocelyn.dart at sap.com 
> > http://www.sap.com 
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> > *From:* sap-wug-bounces at mit.edu [mailto: sap-wug-bounces at mit.edu] *On 
> > Behalf Of *Peter Carroll
> > *Sent:* Friday, 02 September 2005 10:05 AM
> > *To:* 'SAP Workflow Users' Group'
> > *Subject:* RE: Portal - UWL vs. SAP Business Workplace
> > 
> >  We also coded the substitution function for use inthe portal, basically 
> > a copy of the standard SBWP code.
> >  But when comparing the UWL and the SBWP my question is why would anyone 
> > use something that is a half baked copy of the real thing ? 
> >  The UWL is flaky and hard to configure - maybe it is just me but I 
> > still cannot get the same task to come up under more than one filter on the 
> > open tasks tab etc 
> >   Other points to consider
> > *The UWL is slower than the SBWP.
> >  *Depending on the nature of the task, business HTML in separate window 
> > or some java ones, the task just executed is still in the open tasks list 
> > after it has been just processed - users hate this as they are unsure if 
> > item has been executed or not. 
> >  *Under some circumstances if the user double clicks on the item a lock 
> > error is received, a note describes this but offers no solution. 
> >  *The documentation to use and configure the UWL is totally inadaquate 
> > and unless one of the examples in it exactly matches your needs you will 
> > struggle 
> >  *The loss of chained execution(advance with dialogue) is hard to take 
> > and makes simple things complex.
> >  Be careful if you use the UWL, but in my opinion you are better off on 
> > just one platform as you will be hard pressed to satisfy users of both with 
> > the one WF. In particular screens that use business HTML, are generated from 
> > the container of the WF or are written in Java present major problems when 
> > used in the SBWP. 
> >  Peter Carroll
> >   
> >  ------------------------------
> > *From:* sap-wug-bounces at mit.edu [mailto: sap-wug-bounces at mit.edu] *On 
> > Behalf Of *Athur Krishna
> > *Sent:* Friday, 2 September 2005 0:19
> > *To:* SAP Workflow Users' Group
> > *Subject:* Re: Portal - UWL vs. SAP Business Workplace
> > 
> >  Hi Greg,
> >   One small question, EBP Approvals have the "Substitution" option, How 
> > did you achive that in UWL since UWL by default does not come with 
> > "Substitute" option.
> >  Thanks,
> > -Krishna
> > 
> >  On 9/1/05, Gregory Utley <Gregory.Utley at citrix.com > wrote: 
> > > 
> > >  All,
> > > 
> > > We just converted from the SAP Office inbox to the UWL with the 
> > > implementation of the SAP Portal. The big plus for users here is one stop 
> > > shopping, i.e., all SAP Office inboxes (R/3, EBP, ESS) are now 
> > > available in one place. Before, users had to enter via SBWP to approve 
> > > separately in each system. The biggest negative with the UWL is the loss of 
> > > the "advance with dialog" feature. We've had to write custom code to 
> > > compensate for this. I think this is a major loss, although I haven't seen 
> > > any other complaints on WUG on the topic. 
> > >  
> > > *Greg Utley*
> > >  ------------------------------
> > >  
> > > *From:* sap-wug-bounces at mit.edu [mailto: sap-wug-bounces at mit.edu] *On 
> > > Behalf Of *Sherman Wright
> > > *Sent:* Wednesday, August 31, 2005 2:52 PM
> > > *To:* UserGroup, Workflow
> > > *Subject:* Portal - UWL vs. SAP Business Workplace
> > > 
> > >  Hi � 
> > > 
> > > We are using Portal 6.0, and because of unfamiliarity, etc., etc., we 
> > > had replaced the Universal Work List (UWL) with the SAP Business Workplace 
> > > (transaction SBWP) using Windows HTML GUI. We have a handful of workflow 
> > > approval tasks (PR approvals, Fixed Asset retirement approvals, Absence 
> > > Request approvals, etc.) that we route to people in their Workflow Inboxes, 
> > > which should be available with either "tool". 
> > > 
> > > We are in the process of moving from SAP R/3 4.6B to MySAP ERP (ECC 
> > > 5.0). In light of this, I have been asked to provide pros and cons 
> > > regarding replacing the Business Workplace with the UWL, since the UWL is 
> > > the default tool in Portal. Do any of you have any strong arguments either 
> > > for or against the use of UWL as opposed to the Business Workplace? Some of 
> > > our users really like the ability to do their automatic forwarding, 
> > > substitution maintenance, outbox maintenance, etc., from Portal. Most of 
> > > these things especially don't seem to be available in the UWL. 
> > > 
> > > Any information would be appreciated�
> > > 
> > > Regards,
> > > Sherman
> > > 
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