Portal - UWL vs. SAP Business Workplace
Athur Krishna
athur.krishna at gmail.com
Mon Sep 5 16:17:30 EDT 2005
Hi Collins,
If you want all of your INBOX items to open in a different GUI (like Win
GUI ). then
change the "SAP GUI Type" in Content Provided By SAP -> End User Content ->
Iviews -> UWL - Launch SAP Transaction.
-Krishna
On 9/5/05, Collins Obiosa-Maife <comaife at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
> Hello Workflow Experts,
> I have configured the UWL in Enterprise Portal 6.0 using a "How To"
> document from the SDN, as well as the SAP HELP documentation.
> The work items in the UWL Inbox are SAP GUI for HTML. However, I want to
> display work items from the SRM's Inbox which has added functionalities.
> Does anyone have a clue as to resolving this dilemma?
> Thanks in advance.
> Collins.
>
> *Athur Krishna <athur.krishna at gmail.com>* wrote:
>
> Hi All,
> Thanks to Greg,Jocelyn,Peter and others for sharing their knowledge.
> just one more clarification,
> assuming that I have configured both SRM and R/3 inbox in UWL (basically
> registering the system).
> SRM needs "Substitution" option and R/3 does not need.
> and all my inbox in UWL will be flooded with both SRM and R/3 approvals ,
> considering that "Substitution" is available in EP 6.0 stack 12, so how do
> I enable / disable "Substitution" specifically for R/3 and SRM approval
> workitems.
> Thanks,
> -Krishna
>
>
>
> On 9/2/05, Collins Obiosa-Maife <comaife at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> >
> > Hello Jocelyn,
> > Thanks for this contribution. However, I'd like to know if there's a
> > documentation that describes how to display the SRM Inbox in the UWL? I need
> > this solution to tie the work items in my SRM Inbox to the UWL.
> > Thanks in advance.
> > Collins
> >
> > *"Dart, Jocelyn" <jocelyn.dart at sap.com >* wrote:
> >
> > Folks,
> > Substitution IS standard in the UWL as of EP 6.0 support stack 12.
> > Forwarding, reserve/replace and the other items you specifically
> > mentioned Sherman are also already included in the UWL. As always make sure
> > you are on the highest support stack to get the maximum bug/performance
> > improvements and latest functionality.
> > You should also be aware that SAP considers the UWL as the main
> > workflow inbox from a future-direction perspective.
> > While it still has a few rough edges compared to the more mature SBWP
> > these are gradually being smoothed out. Similarly the documentation on
> > configuration options is improving.
> > As Peter has pointed out the UWL has some advantages when dealing with
> > web-based services.
> > It is also the only inbox which allows you to easily combine all work
> > items from all of your SAP systems.
> > Another consideration is that the UWL has already become not just the
> > workflow inbox but the Alert Management inbox as well, so it has dual
> > functionality.
> > You also get Collaboration Tasks (ad-hoc workflow ) in the UWL which
> > are not available in SBWP.
> > Regards,
> > *Jocelyn Dart*
> > Senior Consultant
> > *SAP Australia Pty Ltd.*
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> > North Sydney
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> > Australia
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> > M + 61 412 390 267
> > E jocelyn.dart at sap.com
> > http://www.sap.com
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> > *From:* sap-wug-bounces at mit.edu [mailto: sap-wug-bounces at mit.edu] *On
> > Behalf Of *Peter Carroll
> > *Sent:* Friday, 02 September 2005 10:05 AM
> > *To:* 'SAP Workflow Users' Group'
> > *Subject:* RE: Portal - UWL vs. SAP Business Workplace
> >
> > We also coded the substitution function for use inthe portal, basically
> > a copy of the standard SBWP code.
> > But when comparing the UWL and the SBWP my question is why would anyone
> > use something that is a half baked copy of the real thing ?
> > The UWL is flaky and hard to configure - maybe it is just me but I
> > still cannot get the same task to come up under more than one filter on the
> > open tasks tab etc
> > Other points to consider
> > *The UWL is slower than the SBWP.
> > *Depending on the nature of the task, business HTML in separate window
> > or some java ones, the task just executed is still in the open tasks list
> > after it has been just processed - users hate this as they are unsure if
> > item has been executed or not.
> > *Under some circumstances if the user double clicks on the item a lock
> > error is received, a note describes this but offers no solution.
> > *The documentation to use and configure the UWL is totally inadaquate
> > and unless one of the examples in it exactly matches your needs you will
> > struggle
> > *The loss of chained execution(advance with dialogue) is hard to take
> > and makes simple things complex.
> > Be careful if you use the UWL, but in my opinion you are better off on
> > just one platform as you will be hard pressed to satisfy users of both with
> > the one WF. In particular screens that use business HTML, are generated from
> > the container of the WF or are written in Java present major problems when
> > used in the SBWP.
> > Peter Carroll
> >
> > ------------------------------
> > *From:* sap-wug-bounces at mit.edu [mailto: sap-wug-bounces at mit.edu] *On
> > Behalf Of *Athur Krishna
> > *Sent:* Friday, 2 September 2005 0:19
> > *To:* SAP Workflow Users' Group
> > *Subject:* Re: Portal - UWL vs. SAP Business Workplace
> >
> > Hi Greg,
> > One small question, EBP Approvals have the "Substitution" option, How
> > did you achive that in UWL since UWL by default does not come with
> > "Substitute" option.
> > Thanks,
> > -Krishna
> >
> > On 9/1/05, Gregory Utley <Gregory.Utley at citrix.com > wrote:
> > >
> > > All,
> > >
> > > We just converted from the SAP Office inbox to the UWL with the
> > > implementation of the SAP Portal. The big plus for users here is one stop
> > > shopping, i.e., all SAP Office inboxes (R/3, EBP, ESS) are now
> > > available in one place. Before, users had to enter via SBWP to approve
> > > separately in each system. The biggest negative with the UWL is the loss of
> > > the "advance with dialog" feature. We've had to write custom code to
> > > compensate for this. I think this is a major loss, although I haven't seen
> > > any other complaints on WUG on the topic.
> > >
> > > *Greg Utley*
> > > ------------------------------
> > >
> > > *From:* sap-wug-bounces at mit.edu [mailto: sap-wug-bounces at mit.edu] *On
> > > Behalf Of *Sherman Wright
> > > *Sent:* Wednesday, August 31, 2005 2:52 PM
> > > *To:* UserGroup, Workflow
> > > *Subject:* Portal - UWL vs. SAP Business Workplace
> > >
> > > Hi �
> > >
> > > We are using Portal 6.0, and because of unfamiliarity, etc., etc., we
> > > had replaced the Universal Work List (UWL) with the SAP Business Workplace
> > > (transaction SBWP) using Windows HTML GUI. We have a handful of workflow
> > > approval tasks (PR approvals, Fixed Asset retirement approvals, Absence
> > > Request approvals, etc.) that we route to people in their Workflow Inboxes,
> > > which should be available with either "tool".
> > >
> > > We are in the process of moving from SAP R/3 4.6B to MySAP ERP (ECC
> > > 5.0). In light of this, I have been asked to provide pros and cons
> > > regarding replacing the Business Workplace with the UWL, since the UWL is
> > > the default tool in Portal. Do any of you have any strong arguments either
> > > for or against the use of UWL as opposed to the Business Workplace? Some of
> > > our users really like the ability to do their automatic forwarding,
> > > substitution maintenance, outbox maintenance, etc., from Portal. Most of
> > > these things especially don't seem to be available in the UWL.
> > >
> > > Any information would be appreciated�
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Sherman
> > >
> > >
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