Its a long shot but....
Ram Manohar Tiwari
rammanohar.tiwari at gmail.com
Tue May 10 22:48:32 EDT 2005
Hi Alon,
Just trying to add some value to my earlier suggestion:
> In case a program ( outside the WF ) determines the decision WIs of a
> workflow and shows it as a list to the user.
> Further, user selects one of the decision WIs and executes ( which in turn
> calls the WAPI and completes the decision WI ).
>
> I think if you need that next WI ( of the WF ) should appear immediately (
> not in the Inbox but through your outside program ), then your program :
>
> 1. Should call the WAPI first for chosen decision WI ( which will be
> completed by the user ).
>
> 3. Determine the subsequent WI which is sent to the Inbox and execute it
> from your program. But then there are asynchronous activities involved (
> context change from Program --> WF ---> Program ) so your program may not
> find the Inbox work item immediately.
To find the WI in the Inbox ->
Do 10 times.
Select WI_ID from SWWWIHEAD where SWWWIHEAD-TOP_WI_ID eq 'Decision
WI used in WAPI in the first step'.
if sy-subrc eq 0.
exit.
else.
wait for 0.1 sec.
endif.
ENDDO.
Then you can use SAP_WAPI_EXECUTE_WORKITEM to execute it directly from
your program.
I think it might be better than asking your user to open the inbox and
execute it from there . No where near to a perfect solution but again
some more food for thought ...
Thanks,
Ram
On 5/10/05, Tiwari, Rammanohar <rammanohar.tiwari at logicacmg.com> wrote:
> Hi Alon,
>
> Do you mean ...But ...where is the answer? :-)
>
> Well, it's clear that there is no straightforward solution to it and I'm not sure if SAP will have it either.
> So I've given my suggestion as a food for thought only.
>
> Anyway thanks for calling me a consultant as I don't like be called a Manager for obvious reasons :-)
> No offence mean to anyone.
>
> Thanks,
> Ram
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: sap-wug-bounces at mit.edu [mailto:sap-wug-bounces at mit.edu]On Behalf
> Of Alon Raskin
> Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2005 3:31 PM
> To: 'SAP Workflow Users' Group'
> Subject: RE: Its a long shot but....
>
> Hi Ram,
>
> You are a true consultant (I know because I am one too!)....
>
> Everything you said is 100% correct but....
>
> :-)
>
> Alon Raskin
> e: araskin at 3i-consulting.com
> w: http://www.3i-consulting.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: sap-wug-bounces at mit.edu [mailto:sap-wug-bounces at mit.edu] On Behalf Of
> Tiwari, Rammanohar
> Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2005 5:44 AM
> To: SAP Workflow Users' Group
> Subject: RE: Its a long shot but....
>
> Not sure if I got the problem right.
>
> In case a program ( outside the WF ) determines the decision WIs of a
> workflow and shows it as a list to the user.
> Further, user selects one of the decision WIs and executes ( which in turn
> calls the WAPI and completes the decision WI ).
>
> I think if you need that next WI ( of the WF ) should appear immediately (
> not in the Inbox but through your outside program ), then your program :
>
> 1. Should call the WAPI first for chosen decision WI ( which will be
> completed by the user ).
>
> 3. Determine the subsequent WI which is sent to the Inbox and execute it
> from your program. But then there are asynchronous activities involved (
> context change from Program --> WF ---> Program ) so your program may not
> find the Inbox work item immediately.
>
> Thanks,
> Ram
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: sap-wug-bounces at mit.edu [mailto:sap-wug-bounces at mit.edu]On Behalf Of
> Michael Pokraka
> Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2005 2:23 PM
> To: SAP Workflow Users' Group
> Subject: Re: Its a long shot but....
>
> Hmmm, I interpret Alon's description differently. I think what he didn't
> describe clearly is that the WAPI is called through some user action outside
> the WF which completes the decision..... Alon?
>
> If this is the case then this is a very curious situation indeed. There is
> no 'advance with dialog' as it is not within a workflow context, but
> nevertheless the WAPI could put the process into a WF context. However, the
> WAPI could be called within a LUW which needs to complete, or something
> which has it's own sequence of events.
>
> Advance with dialog causes a potential paradox: what if the WAPI is called
> from a different WF in a dialog task, which has it's own advance with dialog
> successor? Which task is the user shown next?
>
> I suspect the WAPI just changes the state and triggers the WF engine into
> action to progress the WF - outside the user context.
> I'm curious about any possibilities though, it wouldn't hurt to ask OSS (and
> let us know if you do).
>
> Cheers
> Mike
>
> --- Thomas Maue <Thomas.Maue at ipaper.com> wrote:
>
> >
> > Alon,
> >
> > This is working as designed. If there are two dialog steps together
> > then it works, but when a background step is placed in between the
> > Advance with Dialog will not work (makes sense if you think about it).
> >
> > You might try taking off the background processing indicator for the
> > background task and then setting the Advance with Dialog for the
> > background/dialog step.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Thomas Maue
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> > "Alon Raskin"
>
> > <araskin at 3i-consu
>
> > lting.com> To
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> > Sent by: "SAP Workflow Users' Group"
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> > sap-wug-bounces at m <sap-wug at mit.edu>
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> > it.edu cc
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> >
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> > Subject
>
> > 05/09/2005 04:38 Its a long shot but....
>
> > PM
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > Please respond to
>
> > "SAP Workflow
>
> > Users' Group"
>
> > <sap-wug at mit.edu>
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > I am not sure if there are going to be any takers for this one but
> > then you guys/gals always surprise me....
> >
> > I am calling the WAPI provided in 4.7 called SAP_WAPI_DECISION_COMPLETE .
> > This Function Module allows me to programmatically enter a decision
> > item for an outstanding work item. It is a thing of beauty and works
> perfectly.
> >
> > But (and there's always a but)....
> >
> > The WAPI does not respect the Advance with Dialog flag that I have set
> > on my workflow. When I execute this work item from my inbox it
> > proceeds to immediately take me to the next step. However, when I
> > complete the work item via the WAPI, the chain is broken and I am not
> taken to the next step.
> > The subsequent step does appear in my inbox but I want it to popup
> > straight away.
> >
> > Is this working as designed or do you think this could be an OSS note?
> >
> > Any ideas/suggestions?
> >
> > Alon Raskin
> > e: araskin at 3i-consulting.com <mailto:araskin at 3i-consulting.com>
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