AW: Its a long shot but....

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RE: Its a long shot but....Hi Alon

WAPIs should be equivalent to BAPIs, that would exclude any SAP GUI dialog
behaviour.  This is quite important when calling the WAPIs from outside the
SAP system via RFC, as well as for the bundling of  database updates in one
LUW.

from one consultant to another
Nathan 




  -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
  Von: Alon Raskin [mailto:sap-wug-bounces at mit.edu]Im Auftrag von Alon
Raskin
  Gesendet: Dienstag, 10. Mai 2005 13:41
  An: SAP Workflow Users' Group
  Betreff: RE: Its a long shot but....


  Hi Ram,

  I think you are right. There isn't going to be a straight forward answer.
I might try OSS (in the hope that they are feeling generous) but I am not
going to hold my breath. 

  As far as the answer to the rest of the quote... you should ask some of
the consultants on your site what the end of the phrase is. If you still get
no joy then send me a direct email and I will reply....

  Thanks again for your input.

  Alon Raskin
  e: araskin at 3i-consulting.com
  p: +61 3 9625 2189 (Head Office)
  f:  +61 3 8610 1239 
  c:  +1 207 756 0370
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  From: sap-wug-bounces at mit.edu on behalf of Tiwari, Rammanohar
  Sent: Tue 5/10/2005 07:38
  To: SAP Workflow Users' Group
  Subject: RE: Its a long shot but....


  Hi Alon,

  Do you mean ...But ...where is the answer? :-)

  Well, it's clear that there is no straightforward solution to it and I'm
not sure if SAP will have it either.
  So I've given my suggestion as a food for thought only.

  Anyway thanks for calling me a consultant as I don't like be called a
Manager for obvious reasons :-)
  No offence mean to anyone.

  Thanks,
  Ram

  -----Original Message-----
  From: sap-wug-bounces at mit.edu [mailto:sap-wug-bounces at mit.edu]On Behalf
  Of Alon Raskin
  Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2005 3:31 PM
  To: 'SAP Workflow Users' Group'
  Subject: RE: Its a long shot but....


  Hi Ram,

  You are a true consultant (I know because I am one too!)....

  Everything you said is 100% correct but....

  :-)

  Alon Raskin
  e: araskin at 3i-consulting.com
  w: http://www.3i-consulting.com

  -----Original Message-----
  From: sap-wug-bounces at mit.edu [mailto:sap-wug-bounces at mit.edu] On Behalf
Of
  Tiwari, Rammanohar
  Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2005 5:44 AM
  To: SAP Workflow Users' Group
  Subject: RE: Its a long shot but....


  Not sure if I got the problem right.

  In case a program ( outside the WF ) determines the decision WIs of a
  workflow and shows it as a list to the user.
  Further, user selects one of the decision WIs and executes ( which in turn
  calls the WAPI and completes the decision WI ).

  I think if you need that next WI ( of the WF ) should appear immediately (
  not in the Inbox but through your outside program  ), then your program :

  1. Should call the WAPI first for chosen decision WI ( which will be
  completed by the user ).

  3. Determine the subsequent WI which is sent to the Inbox and execute it
  from your program. But then there are asynchronous activities involved  (
  context change from Program --> WF ---> Program ) so your program may not
  find the Inbox work item immediately.

  Thanks,
  Ram

  -----Original Message-----
  From: sap-wug-bounces at mit.edu [mailto:sap-wug-bounces at mit.edu]On Behalf Of
  Michael Pokraka
  Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2005 2:23 PM
  To: SAP Workflow Users' Group
  Subject: Re: Its a long shot but....


  Hmmm, I interpret Alon's description differently. I think what he didn't
  describe clearly is that the WAPI is called through some user action
outside
  the WF which completes the decision..... Alon?

  If this is the case then this is a very curious situation indeed. There is
  no 'advance with dialog' as it is not within a workflow context, but
  nevertheless the WAPI could put the process into a WF context. However,
the
  WAPI could be called within a LUW which needs to complete, or something
  which has it's own sequence of events.

  Advance with dialog causes a potential paradox: what if the WAPI is called
  from a different WF in a dialog task, which has it's own advance with
dialog
  successor? Which task is the user shown next?

  I suspect the WAPI just changes the state and triggers the WF engine into
  action to progress the WF - outside the user context.
  I'm curious about any possibilities though, it wouldn't hurt to ask OSS
(and
  let us know if you do).

  Cheers
  Mike

  --- Thomas Maue <Thomas.Maue at ipaper.com> wrote:

  >
  > Alon,
  >
  > This is working as designed.  If there are two dialog steps together
  > then it works, but when a background step is placed in between the
  > Advance with Dialog will not work (makes sense if you think about it).
  >
  > You might try taking off the background processing indicator for the
  > background task and then setting the Advance with Dialog for the
  > background/dialog step.
  >
  > Regards,
  > Thomas Maue
  >
  >
  >
  >

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  >              PM

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  >

  >
  >
  >
  >
  > I am not sure if there are going to be any takers for this one but
  > then you guys/gals always surprise me....
  >
  > I am calling the WAPI provided in 4.7 called SAP_WAPI_DECISION_COMPLETE
.
  > This Function Module allows me to programmatically enter a decision
  > item for an outstanding work item. It is a thing of beauty and works
  perfectly.
  >
  > But (and there's always a but)....
  >
  > The WAPI does not respect the Advance with Dialog flag that I have set
  > on my workflow. When I execute this work item from my inbox it
  > proceeds to immediately take me to the next step. However, when I
  > complete the work item via the WAPI, the chain is broken and I am not
  taken to the next step.
  > The subsequent step does appear in my inbox but I want it to popup
  > straight away.
  >
  > Is this working as designed or do you think this could be an OSS note?
  >
  > Any ideas/suggestions?
  >
  > Alon Raskin
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