Raising a QMSM event with change doc MELDUNG - possible?

[Hill, Anna]

Hi Margaret

Glad to hear you got that working. I'm not aware of a better approach
than the one you suggested so a check FM/method (depending on what you
want to do) which checks the change doc values will probably do the
trick.

Good luck!
Cheers
Anna


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-----Original Message-----
From: sap-wug-bounces at mit.edu [mailto:sap-wug-bounces at mit.edu] On Behalf
Of Hilsbos, Margaret A
Sent: 29 November 2005 14:19
To: SAP Workflow Users' Group
Subject: RE: Raising a QMSM event with change doc MELDUNG - possible?

Anna,

Yes, this did work!! (Thanks...I was on vacation all last week and I
guess my brain was still there, because I didn't even think to try this)

However my next question is, what is the best way to get the old value
for QMSM-PARNR?  The delivered event responsibleIsChanged has no
parameters (btw the system is 4.6c).  I could query CDPOS, but is that
the best approach? 

Thanks,

Margaret



-----Original Message-----
From: sap-wug-bounces at mit.edu [mailto:sap-wug-bounces at mit.edu]On Behalf
Of Hill, Anna
Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2005 5:22 AM
To: SAP Workflow Users' Group
Subject: RE: Raising a QMSM event with change doc MELDUNG - possible?


Margaret - I managed to check; the event is definitely raised as
standard on the system I'm currently on so it should also be for you.

Good luck!
Cheers
Anna
SAP UK

-----Original Message-----
From: Hill, Anna 
Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2005 10:16 AM
To: 'SAP Workflow Users' Group'
Subject: RE: Raising a QMSM event with change doc MELDUNG - possible?
Hi Margaret

There is actually an event on the QMSM business object called
responsibleIsChanged so I expect there must be a way of raising this, if
it's not raised automatically by the application. I know that the
equivalent on BUS2080 is raised automatically but I can't test it for
QMSM as the system I'm on doesn't have th option available to enter
responsible users at task level. 

Try switching on the event trace (SWELS) for your user ID and change the
responsible field on a task to see if the event is raised as a first
option, if you haven't already done this. If this doesn't work then let
me know and we can have a re-think.

Cheers
Anna
SAP UK 
 

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From: sap-wug-bounces at mit.edu [mailto:sap-wug-bounces at mit.edu] On Behalf
Of Dart, Jocelyn
Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2005 12:12 AM
To: SAP Workflow Users' Group
Subject: RE: Raising a QMSM event with change doc MELDUNG - possible?

Have you checked out the option of using status management to notify the
workflow that person responsible has been changed?   You would probably
need a user-defined status but both notifications and tasks are
transactions not master data and do a lot with status management so you
may have more luck there. 


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-----Original Message-----
From: sap-wug-bounces at mit.edu [mailto:sap-wug-bounces at mit.edu] On Behalf
Of Hilsbos, Margaret A
Sent: Tuesday, 29 November 2005 7:20 AM
To: SAP-WUG (E-mail)
Subject: Raising a QMSM event with change doc MELDUNG - possible?

Hello WUGers,

I have a perplexing little problem that I'm betting someone here knows
just the answer to.

I want to trigger a WF based on a change in the field QMSM-PARNR, which
means a change to the "person responsible" for a task on a service
notification (or q-note, etc). But the only change document I found is
MELDUNG, which is based on the key for the notification, not the task.
Since there can be many tasks on a notification, it is possible that
more than one task will have this field changed in a single transaction.
We need to trigger a workflow for each task that is changed, or at least
loop through a set of work items for each task that was changed. We also
need to be able to identify the old and new values in QMSM-PARNR.

QMSM-PARNR old and new values are written to CDPOS but I am unclear how
to handle the event trigger.  SWEC wants an object like BUS2080 and
CDHDR only has the notification number as the key. I was  wondering if I
could use a function module in SWED to translate the object key, using
CDPOS -TABKEY  to get the key for QMSM....but I'm guessing I can't
trigger separate events for each TABKEY value on a single change
document.

Alternatively I think I could trigger the event based on BUS2080 and
loop through values in the workflow, using a multiline container
element...but in that case do the old and new values alternate in the
container element? It seems like it will be a pain to sort them out to
the task numbers in the loop. 

If I sound lost then I probably am... anyone want to help me out of the
wilderness?  Can you give me a suggestion as to the best way to handle
this situation? 

Thanks!

Margaret Hilsbos
Day & Zimmermann




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