Substitution questions

[Chatterjee, Partha (US - San Ramon)]

Hi Jocelyn,
 
Thanks for confirming!  I just have a client where
delegation/substitution is a part of their regular work processes
because of regularly scheduled travel.  I will try to suggest deadlining
but so far the client has been reluctant to entertain pre-determined
options such as this.
 
Best regards,
Partha Chatterjee
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Dart, Jocelyn
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Subject: Re: Substitution questions
 
Hi Partha,
1) Yes you cannot chain substitutes - this is *not* missing
functionality - this is for financial delegation/audit/security reasons.
I.e. If I substitute my work to someone else, this does *not* in any way
imply that I am ok with them sending it on to a 3rd person.
 
2) No - trouble is that its very difficult if not impossible to know in
advance what authorisations they are going to need for the underlying
transactions/routines that may be called by workflow.  Better approach
is to consider who will be substitutes up front in your design, so that
either they are peers with similar authorisations, or you build your
workflow to cater for possible action by a substitute, e.g. use user
decisions (which don't require extra authorisation) and then perform
updates in background.
 
Rgds,
Jocelyn
 
 
 
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From: SAP Workflow [mailto:Owner-SAP-WUG at MITVMA.MIT.EDU] On Behalf Of
Chatterjee, Partha (US - San Ramon)
Sent: Wednesday,8 September 2004 11:23 AM
To: SAP-WUG at MITVMA.MIT.EDU
Subject: Substitution questions
 
Hi All,
 
I have looked at the WUG archives and still have a few questions on SAP
Inbox substitution functionality:
 
1) Is it still true that chaining substitutes is not recognized ( i.e. A
is substitututed to B then B is substituted to C --> however C will not
see A's stuff?)  -- The last answer on this subject in the archives was
in 2001.
 
2) When someone delegates is there any functionality which will allow
authority checks.  For example, I substitute a subordinate for my
workitems.  For some of these workitems, the subordinate does not have
the underlying authority to execute this transaction even though I
intended him to temporarily have such authority.  My understanding is
that there is no such check since one cannot know intent and SAP feels
the security process is separate.  It would be nice if there were
something that informed the mgr during substitution that some of his
workitems could not be executed by his subordinate so he could choose
someone else or call security etc.  Has anyone else dealt with this
issue?
 
Best regards,
Partha
 
 
 
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