Approval emails - Jocelyn's License Issue

Roger Myers rmyers at brenntag.ca
Tue Feb 24 09:53:26 EST 2004


Merci,
 
Roger Myers
Brenntag
 
-----Original Message-----
From: SAP Workflow [mailto:Owner-SAP-WUG at MITVMA.MIT.EDU]On Behalf Of
Merrick, Phillip
Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2004 7:59 AM
To: SAP-WUG at MITVMA.MIT.EDU
Subject: Re: Approval emails - Jocelyn's License Issue
 
 
Brenntag,
 
It's fairly common that the use of any commercial software is subject to
some form of licensing (as often is free software). In this respect, Jocelyn
is correct to point out that the use of SAP software needs to be covered by
an appropriate license agreement.
 
SAP has more than one form of license model, and as much as an SAP sales
person would like to license every consumer, that's not always necessary
:-). While your traditional R/3 user is often covered by a "named user"
license, other licensing approaches are often used where the users cannot be
easily identified, as might be the case for an online store.
 
For better or for worse, many SAP customers have negotiated specific
licensing terms, so it's not possible to give a generalised response that
will accurately reflect all of the people who form this workflow community
of interest. The right thing to do is to hunt down your nominated account
executive and ask them what terms may apply. I often use the phrase
"licensing implication" when someone wants to interact with an SAP solution.
That doesn't necessarily mean "per user", "per transaction", "per gigabyte",
"per CPU" or any other specific metric (even dollars). Nor does it imply an
order of magnitude of such. This can and often does vary from customer to
customer.
 
A healthy dialogue with your SAP account executive can often help make you
aware of the stuff you can use without having to spend hard money.
 
In general, the SAP e-selling solutions for consumers do not include the
number of customers as a function of their price. I designed a solution once
for a customer using the SAP Online Store for which they didn't have to pay
any money; however, it's still subject to a software license. Again, talk to
your SAP sales contacts - get to the source :-)
 
Phil.
 
-----Original Message-----
From: SAP Workflow [mailto:Owner-SAP-WUG at MITVMA.MIT.EDU] On Behalf Of Roger
Myers
Sent: Tuesday, 24 February 2004 10:40 PM
To: SAP-WUG at MITVMA.MIT.EDU
Subject: Re: Approval emails - Jocelyn's License Issue
 
Jocelyn:
 
I have am intrigued by your comments re licenses.
 
In a number of emails you have indicated a that all users of a generic id
need to be licensed. How does this scenario play out in a web environment
with an online store.
 
Does every web user/customer of an online store require a license?
 
Roger Myers
Brenntag
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: SAP Workflow [mailto:Owner-SAP-WUG at MITVMA.MIT.EDU] On Behalf Of Dart,
Jocelyn
Sent: Monday, February 23, 2004 7:11 PM
To: SAP-WUG at MITVMA.MIT.EDU
Subject: Re: Approval emails
 
Hi John,
Be careful about the "no logon" option - you may be in breach of license
agreements.
Even use of generic user ids needs to be licensed for the actual number of
people who are going to access SAP using the generic account - even if
technically they never log on directly.
 
The current best alternative to SAP MAPI is to use offline email reply as
they do in SRM - essentially you send out an email notification with
pre-formatted mailto hyperlinks.  When the reply email is received into SAP
you evaluate it and apply the result to the work item (see business object
WI_MAILREC method RECEIVE for a starting point).  This is easier if you get
the new extended email notification program as it provides some BADIs where
you can add your preformatted links. Simple but effective.
Regards,
Jocelyn
 
 
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: SAP Workflow [mailto:Owner-SAP-WUG at MITVMA.MIT.EDU] On Behalf Of Roger
Myers
Sent: Monday,23 February 2004 11:46 PM
To: SAP-WUG at MITVMA.MIT.EDU
Subject: Re: Approval emails
 
 
If you are into custom development, asp.net or jsp can do whatever you need
to outside of SAP.
 
The .net connector  or java connector can bridge/manage movement of data via
bapi calls to and from SAP as required.
 
Roger Myers
Brenntag
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: SAP Workflow [mailto:Owner-SAP-WUG at MITVMA.MIT.EDU] On Behalf Of John A
Haworth
Sent: Monday, February 23, 2004 7:01 AM
To: SAP-WUG at MITVMA.MIT.EDU
Subject: Approval emails
 
Hi Workflowers
 
I have a Customer meeting tomorrow, where they want to know about the
possibilities of web (non-sap) based Requisition Approval and the Pro's and
Con's of them.
Initially they wanted SAP MAPI, but I havnt really given them a good
alternative yet, hence the meeting.
My answer is simply using the ITS and form based approval task (thanks to
those who have helped me on this) are there any answers based around
Business Connector et al, that are pure web based with no log on (ITS or
SAP) and any Pros/Cons around it ?
 
Many Thanks
 
John
 
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