AW: Portals and Workflow

Mon Oct 27 05:00:03 EST 2003

The launch handler is used to launch web services etc.  Previously you needed to either customise this in 6.2 or install the 'Xhandler' service on the portal if you were using 4.6c.  However, the newest version of the UWL (make sure you get the newest version from iViewstudio.com) seems to combine the the Xhandler functionality within it, instead you use the override.xml file to point your webservice based tasks in the right direction.

So, in answer to your question:

The UWL will work with 4.6c

If you go on OSS and find the notes relating to MSS there are some quite good examples of the configuration you need to do (look for the recent updates which talk about the override.xml file) also look at the help for the UWL service on iViewStudio.

Hope this helps,

Mark

SAP UK

-----Original Message-----
From: Bijay Shrestha [mailto:Bijay.Shrestha at genmills.com]
Sent: 24 October 2003 19:18
To: SAP-WUG at MITVMA.MIT.EDU
Subject: Re: AW: Portals and Workflow

We downloaded UWL50_5_1 this morning and upgraded in our current Dev. Enterprise Portal 5.0. However at the end of the process we couldn't preview the UWL. The error message is " Launch Handler not found". Then we found in the documentation that we need to run tcode "WF_Handcust" in SAP6.2. That was like a big hammer hit on my hand. Our R3 is in 4.6c version. Do we need to be in Web Application Server 6.2 or better before we use UWL?

I never saw in any document mentioned about this requirement. Please advise.

Thanks.

Bijay Shrestha
Ph: (763) 764-2201
Pager: (612) 661-2772
Email: Bijay.Shrestha at genmills.com
"WebFlow gets the right information to the right people at the right time!"

-----Original Message-----
From: M Doe [mailto:monica_sap at hotmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 12:41 PM
To: SAP-WUG at MITVMA.MIT.EDU
Subject: Re: AW: Portals and Workflow

Great News- I am so happy to hear that.

Thanks once again.

Regards,
Monica

>From: "Dart, Jocelyn" <jocelyn.dart at sap.com>
>Reply-To: SAP Workflow Users' Group <SAP-WUG at MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
>To: SAP-WUG at MITVMA.MIT.EDU
>Subject: Re: AW: Portals and Workflow
>Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 01:23:10 +0200
>
>That's the general idea, Monica.
>Jocelyn
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: M Doe [mailto:monica_sap at hotmail.com]
>Sent: Thursday,23 October 2003 1:55 AM
>To: SAP-WUG at MITVMA.MIT.EDU
>Subject: Re: AW: Portals and Workflow
>
>
>Thanks Jocelyn.
>
>Just to confirm - the previous note SAPNOTE 487649(workflow restrictions on
>the web) that mentioned the following
>
>*********************************************************************************
>            Links to application objects
>
>                      Unlike the R/3 inbox (SBWP), the Web inbox (BWSP)
>DOES
>NOT support navigation to the assigned application documents such as
>purchase orders, deliveries or leave requests.
>**********************************************************************************
>You are saying that with this new UWL we can now look at the application
>objects so we don't have this restriction on the web anymore.  Right?
>
>
>Regards.
>Monica
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >From: "Dart, Jocelyn" <jocelyn.dart at sap.com>
> >Reply-To: SAP Workflow Users' Group <SAP-WUG at MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
> >To: SAP-WUG at MITVMA.MIT.EDU
> >Subject: Re: AW: Portals and Workflow
> >Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 01:42:24 +0200
> >
> >Monica,
> >The new version of the Universal Worklist is 50.5.1 and is available from
> >the iviewstudio.com site now.
> >It was release a couple of weeks ago.
> >Regards,
> >         Jocelyn Dart
> >Consultant (SRM, EBP, Workflow)
> >and co-author of the book
> >"Practical Workflow for SAP"
> >SAP Australia
> >email: jocelyn.dart at sap.com
> >phone: +61 412 390 267
> >fax:   +61 2 9935 4880
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: M Doe [mailto:monica_sap at hotmail.com]
> >Sent: Saturday,18 October 2003 5:10 AM
> >To: SAP-WUG at MITVMA.MIT.EDU
> >Subject: Re: AW: Portals and Workflow
> >
> >
> >Hi Alan,
> >
> >Since I am having a problem right now displaying the objects on the
>portal,
> >I am very interested in finding out when we can access the object in the
> >universal worklist.  You mentioned that it is about to reach your
>doorstep-
> >is it out already in a new release.
> >
> >Can you please give us time guidelines and release info.
> >
> >Thanks.
> >Monica
> >
> >
> > >From: "Rickayzen, Alan" <alan.rickayzen at sap.com>
> > >Reply-To: SAP Workflow Users' Group <SAP-WUG at MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
> > >To: SAP-WUG at MITVMA.MIT.EDU
> > >Subject: AW: Portals and Workflow
> > >Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 22:44:07 +0200
> > >
> > >Bijay,
> > >Please take a minute to read my blog on http://sdn.sap.com (anyone can
> > >register). The object links in the universal worklist are just about to
> > >reach your doorstep (thanks to the feedback from our last ASUG meeting
>in
> > >May),
> > >Alan
> > >
> > >-----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht-----
> > >Von: Bijay Shrestha [mailto:Bijay.Shrestha at genmills.com]
> > >Gesendet: Montag, 13. Oktober 2003 21:05
> > >An: SAP-WUG at MITVMA.MIT.EDU
> > >Betreff: Re: Portals and Workflow
> > >
> > >
> > >Thank you for clarification.
> > >
> > >Bijay Shrestha
> > >Ph: (763) 764-2201
> > >Pager: (612) 661-2772
> > >Email: Bijay.Shrestha at genmills.com
> > >"WebFlow gets the right information to the right people at the right
> >time!"
> > >
> > >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From: Dart, Jocelyn [mailto:jocelyn.dart at sap.com]
> > >Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2003 8:12 PM
> > >To: SAP-WUG at MITVMA.MIT.EDU
> > >Subject: Re: Portals and Workflow
> > >
> > >
> > >Hi Bijay,
> > >The display of objects is not available in ITS either, similarly
> >secondary
> > >methods are not available in the web inboxes.  This is due to issues
> >around
> > >controlling multiple web sessions.
> > >As the UWL has some sort of hyperlink for objects, suggest you query
>OSS
> >as
> > >to how to use these hyperlinks or build your own.
> > >Jocelyn
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From: Bijay Shrestha [mailto:Bijay.Shrestha at genmills.com]
> > >Sent: Saturday,11 October 2003 4:24 AM
> > >To: SAP-WUG at MITVMA.MIT.EDU
> > >Subject: Re: Portals and Workflow
> > >
> > >
> > >Hi,
> > >
> > >I'm currently exploring and testing to implement workflow long term
> > >solution via Portal or short term solution using ITS. I'm saying short
> >term
> > >because we are already running ITS for other purpose.
> > >
> > >From reading your posts, I learned that the display of object can not
>be
> > >done in Portal. Is that correct?
> > >
> > >We are using Object Image Display 30001128 to display our archived
> >document
> > >in iXos. So if it can not be used it's kinda useless for us.
> > >
> > >Mark, what do you mean by "t's also obviously meant to be possible as
>the
> > >object are listed with hyperlinks."? Can we have hyperlink instead?
> > >
> > >Bijay Shrestha
> > >Ph: (763) 764-2201
> > >Pager: (612) 661-2772
> > >Email: Bijay.Shrestha at genmills.com
> > >
> > >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From: Mark Pyc [mailto:Mark.Pyc at boots.co.uk]
> > >Sent: Friday, October 10, 2003 6:41 AM
> > >To: SAP-WUG at MITVMA.MIT.EDU
> > >Subject: Re: Portals and Workflow
> > >
> > >
> > >Excellent tips Joc!
> > >
> > >However, in the new sexy format all text formatting is out the window.
>Is
> > >it possible to control line breaks in the long text desciption?? Also
>the
> > >fear of the object links not working is true. It is possible to go the
> >GUI
> > >for HTML view, but it's not pretty. It's also obviously meant to be
> > >possible as the object are listed with hyperlinks.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >"Dart, Jocelyn" <jocelyn.dart at sap.com>
> > >Sent by: SAP Workflow <Owner-SAP-WUG at MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
> > >10/10/2003 08:36
> > >Please respond to SAP Workflow Users' Group
> > >
> > >
> > >         To:     SAP-WUG at MITVMA.MIT.EDU
> > >         cc:
> > >         Subject:        Re: Portals and Workflow
> > >
> > >
> > >Hi Mark,
> > >Long time no see.
> > >Yes I have customers using the Universal Worklist iview in the portal
>and
> > >I'm working at one right now.
> > >
> > >Substitutes - easiest approach to create your own iview/transaction to
> > >support it - either just update HRUS_D2 transaction directly or use the
> > >RH_SUBSTIT* function modules.  You can then distribute the subsitution
>to
> > >the relevant systems.
> > >
> > >Work item display/User decisions - Make sure you have VERSION 2 of the
> >UWL
> > >(released May) and that you set the paramters ITS Mode and User
>Decision
> > >(something like that) to FALSE rather than true in the UWL
>configuration.
> > >This gives you the new sexy look and feel for the work item display and
> > >for user decisions which is a huge improvement. For reasons of - keep
>it
> > >the same as the last version - they default to TRUE which give you the
> >old
> > >less attractive display.
> > >
> > >Regards,
> > >         Jocelyn Dart
> > >Consultant (SRM, EBP, Workflow)
> > >and co-author of the book
> > >"Practical Workflow for SAP"
> > >SAP Australia
> > >email: jocelyn.dart at sap.com
> > >phone: +61 412 390 267
> > >fax:   +61 2 9935 4880
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From: Mark Pyc [mailto:Mark.Pyc at boots.co.uk]
> > >Sent: Friday,10 October 2003 4:31 AM
> > >To: SAP-WUG at MITVMA.MIT.EDU
> > >Subject: Portals and Workflow
> > >
> > >
> > >G'day Workflowers (no floral reference intended),
> > >
> > >A few general and a few specific...
> > >
> > >Is anyone running a Portal productively and using it as the only
> >interface
> > >to Workflow?
> > >
> > >It is not possible to maintain substitutes via the I-view universal
> > >worklist as I understand it. I also believe this extension was due in
>the
> > >next release of the i-view but this has been put on hold. What has
>anyone
> > >put in place to cope with this? Access to SBWP via GUI for HTML does
> >allow
> > >it, however to me it seems that if users are to be trained on this then
> > >the I-view is redundant. Positional substitutes through HR are possible
> >if
> > >a full Org struct is maintained. Alternatively develop a web
>transaction
> > >to allow updates to HRUS_D2 (directly or via
> > >RH_UPDATE_SUBST_LIST_SERVER)??.
> > >
> > >The display of Workitem (selecting the spectacles) through the Portal
>is
> > >the same as if you select 'User View without Active X' in personal
> > >settings through the GUI. Is this always the case?? The major problem
>is
> > >that the WI description is limited in size depending on your screen
> > >resolution (between 9 and 12 lines) and if navigate at all (scroll the
> > >text, view the Available Objects tab and return, etc) the size is
>reduced
> > >to 1 or 2 lines!?!? This seems completely unusable.
> > >
> > >OSS note 487649 indicates that Advance with Dialog is not possible via
> >the
> > >web. However I've found that Web Transaction steps do Advance with
> >Dialog.
> > >Are there any other treats that make Workflow on the web better?
> > >
> > >User decisions appear as if 'No HTML in execution of decision tasks'
>has
> > >been selected. I understand that i-view Universal Worklist task mapping
> > >allows i-view display of decisions, but I believe this precludes the
> > >ability to display any attachment objects (BUS2081 for example). What
> > >solution have you found most effective.
> > >
> > >Has anyone built custom i-views to cope with any of these issues? Has
> > >anyone developed Business Server Pages? Can anyone give an indication
>of
> > >development costs / required skill sets needed for success???
> > >
> > >I apologise for raking over old issues if these have been covered but
> >I've
> > >had little luck with search sap-wug over the last few days, and OSS
> >hasn't
> > >returned any gems either.
> > >
> > >If you're company has decided that Portals was an unusable solution
>than
> >I
> > >am equally interested in hearing about it.
> > >
> > >Have fun,
> > >Mark Pyc
> > >Smoothflow Consulting
> >
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