Role - Cost Center Manager
Martinek, Jerry
Jerry.Martinek at icbc.com
Thu May 29 11:26:39 EDT 2003
Hi Jocelyn, thank you for the reply. Based on what I read in your book =
and
your reply, I believe that this is a desired alternative to most our =
custom
control tables that basically identify the responsible people for =
different
subjects.
I would appreciate any feedback/input/opinions from the SAP-WUG =
regarding
production experiences with using responsibility rules.
Regards,
Jerry Martinek
-----Original Message-----
From: Dart, Jocelyn [mailto:jocelyn.dart at sap.com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 6:17 PM
To: SAP-WUG at MITVMA.MIT.EDU
Subject: Re: Role - Cost Center Manager
Hi Jerry,=20
Responsibility rules are also described in the book in some
detail. I consider them the preferred method of rule creation with or
without HR. Not only because they link to the corporate organization =
but
because they:
* Do not require any programming effort
* Are extremely flexible - cope with single values, ranges,
patterns (wildcards), dummy values, secondary prioirities, etc.
* Can easily be understood/changed by business personnel
* Cope with large numbers of entries (performance problems
with these were solved some time ago - if you have
an older system make sure you have applied the relevant OSS
notes)
* Both the rule and the responsibility criteria can be
transported - leaving only the assignments to be entered via =
transaction
OOCU_RESP or via the org plan (responsibility criteria exist as RY =
objects).
As to who maintains them - this was discussed in the book
and most recently at ASUG. Everyone I've spoken to or met
recommends pretty much the same approach:
* If you have HR, have your HR people update it but make
sure they understand the workflow implications
* If you don't have HR, it becomes the responsiblity of the
business process owner or workflow administrator.=20
You might want to ask the rest of the SAP-WUG group for
their comments - I know there are quite a few who use responsibility =
rules.=20
Regards,
Jocelyn Dart=20
Consultant (SRM, EBP, Workflow)
and co-author of the book
"Practical Workflow for SAP"=20
SAP Australia
email: jocelyn.dart at sap.com=20
phone: +61 412 390 267
fax: +61 2 9935 4880
-----Original Message-----
From: Schmidinger, Heinz (Unaxis IT BZ)
[mailto:heinz.schmidinger at unaxis.com]
Sent: Wednesday, 28 May 2003 4:34 PM
To: SAP-WUG at MITVMA.MIT.EDU
Subject: AW: Role - Cost Center Manager
Hi Jerry,
I have found my basic knowledge about handling
responsibilities out of
description of role AC70000172.
Maybe it helps.
Regards
Heinz
-----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht-----
Von: Martinek, Jerry [mailto:Jerry.Martinek at icbc.com]
Gesendet am: Dienstag, 27. Mai 2003 18:10
An: SAP-WUG at MITVMA.MIT.EDU
Betreff: Re: Role - Cost Center Manager
Hi Heinz and Jocelyn, thank for your replies.
We're currently not using the SAP responsibilities
functionality but are
interested in the concept. We have a number of
specific/custom scenarios
where we need to find the responsible person(s). Currently
were using
various home grown methods that work but there is an
administration/maintenance issue with each one. What I like
about the
responsibilities concept is that it centralizes everything
around the
corporate organization structure.
I would be interested in getting some information about the
setup and usage
of the responsibilities functionality. How and who sets
up/manages this
information on the PD side, what type of issues have you
encountered in
rolling out this functionality, what is the best
practice?... etc..... =20
Regards,
Jerry
-----Original Message-----
From: Schmidinger, Heinz (Unaxis IT BZ)
[mailto:heinz.schmidinger at unaxis.com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2003 7:51 AM
To: SAP-WUG at MITVMA.MIT.EDU
Subject: AW: Role - Cost Center
Manager
Hi Jerry,
one possibility is to create a customer role
based on type
'R'
(responsibility).
- Tx PFAC define a Role Header for
CostCenterRespons. with
Type 'R'
- Define a Container-Element with Obj.Type
BUS0012 (or the
key of CostCenter
CSKS-KOKRS and CSKS-KOSTL or more Eleemnts
if a more
differnt responsibility
is nneded like value-restricted e.g.)
- in Tab'Responsibilities' define
responsibilities for
cost-center or
cost-center ranges
- assign Persons, Users or other Org-Objects
to this
responsibility.
HTH
Regrads
Heinz
-----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht-----
Von: Martinek, Jerry
[mailto:Jerry.Martinek at icbc.com]
Gesendet am: Dienstag, 20. Mai 2003 18:06
An: SAP-WUG at MITVMA.MIT.EDU
Betreff: Role - Cost Center Manager
Hi, I would like to know whether SAP
provides a standard
role to find a cost
center manager via a personal number or user
id?
I tried using role 3100013 but I couldn't
get it return
anything. Could this
mean that this particular functionality is
not active at our
site? I used a
number of different methods to test this
role but they all
came back with
the same results.
I also coded a custom program that called
RH_GET ACTORS with
the mentioned
role and required input parameters but that
didn't work.
Has anyone written similar custom roles or
can anyone
provide any hints?
Regards,
Jerry Martinek
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