Start workitem immediately within the application

[Soady, Phil]

Hi Tomasz,
Good Idea to point out other options may be a better solution.
 
eg Generic Object services, or the start workflow transaction.
cheers
 
 
Phil Soady
Senior Consultant
Business Technologies
SAP Australia
* : 0412 213 079
* : phil.soady at sap.com
 
 
 
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Zmudzin,Tomasz,FRANKFURT,Extern LG-DM =
[mailto:Tomasz.Zmudzin at de.nestle.com]=20
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 4:50 PM
To: SAP-WUG at MITVMA.MIT.EDU
Subject: AW: Start workitem immediately within the application
 
 
Werner,
 
(I may be totally out of line as I could not follow the WHOLE =
discussion, but let's point out another thing worth checking...)
 
The document statuses & everything around them can be set up in the =
customizing of the Document Management System. If you really want ANY =
piece of code executed immediately, you'd better use the "Program Exit =
/ Form Routine" option, potentially with the "Immediate" flag set -- =
your piece of code will be run immediately when the status is set.
 
Please check:
SPRO --> SAP Reference IMG
  --> Cross-Application Components=20
  --> Document Management=20
  --> Control Data=20
  --> Define document types.
Within this customizing transaction please select your document type, =
go into status overview, double-click on status line to see the details =
of its definition.
 
Kind regards,
Tomasz=20
(who has now transferred to a PDM unit -- how useful !...)
 
 
-----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht-----
Von: Dart, Jocelyn [mailto:jocelyn.dart at sap.com]
Gesendet: Montag, 23. Juni 2003 02:24
An: SAP-WUG at MITVMA.MIT.EDU
Betreff: Re: Start workitem immediately within the application
 
 
Hi Werner,=20
I think event Q actually means EVENT QUEUE.
If you don't know the difference between synchronous and asynchronous =
event handling then I suggest its time to go back to your BC610 course =
notes - or to attend the course if you can.  Otherwise it is explained =
in detail in the SAP Library help and in the book (as is the event =
queue).  It comes down to how do you know that the work item has been =
completed correctly - is it enough to have executed the method =
(synchronous) or do you need an event to confirm that something was =
done (asynchronous).=20
Please read up on it - it makes a significant difference! Regards,
        Jocelyn Dart=20
Consultant (SRM, EBP, Workflow)
and co-author of the book
"Practical Workflow for SAP"=20
SAP Australia
email: jocelyn.dart at sap.com=20
phone: +61 412 390 267
fax:   +61 2 9935 4880
 
 
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Werner K=F6=DFl [mailto:werner.koessl at hirschvogel.de]=20
Sent: Friday,20 June 2003 9:10 PM
To: SAP-WUG at MITVMA.MIT.EDU
Subject: AW: Start workitem immediately within the application
 
 
Thanks Kjetil & Phil for your quick response!
 
I use the standard triggering event DRAW->CHANGED with receiver type =
'DOKST'.
 
In the customizing i have the possibility to enter a workflow template =
for every document type and for every document status. Now when =
somebody changes exactly the given status the CHANGED-event is raised.
 
I don't know how to do that.
 
Can you explain me what synchronous and asynchronous event handling =
means? And what is event Q? I never heard this before.
 
Thank you so much!!!
Werner.
 
 
 
-----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht-----
Von: SAP Workflow [mailto:Owner-SAP-WUG at MITVMA.MIT.EDU]Im Auftrag von =
Soady, Phil
Gesendet: Freitag, 20. Juni 2003 10:39
An: SAP-WUG at MITVMA.MIT.EDU
Betreff: Re: Start workitem immediately within the application
 
 
Lieber Werner,
 
if the event is processed and the wf started by WF-BATCH ( a background =
) user, then how can the workflow connect back to your modi ? And =
interesting security issue.
 
The workflow must be started by the current user. Ie no asynchronous =
handling.
 
Any chance of calling swe_event_create synchronously ?
See the flag on the Function call.
 
That implies no event Q ? Well, I've never tried synchronous and event =
q.
 
At least now, the user should get the user decision.
 
hth / htw
 
Cheers
 
 
Phil Soady
Senior Consultant
Business Technologies
SAP Australia
* : 0412 213 079
* : phil.soady at sap.com
 
 
 
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Werner Kv_l [mailto:werner.koessl at hirschvogel.de]
Sent: Friday, June 20, 2003 5:35 PM
To: SAP-WUG at MITVMA.MIT.EDU
Subject: Start workitem immediately within the application
 
 
Hi everyone,
 
we start one workflow when someone changes the status of a document. =
But the first workitem should be executed immediately after the change =
of the status. (Not only created, but executed!)
 
The first workitem is a user decision, and the receiver of the first =
workitem is WF_INITIATOR. The "Advance with immediate dialog"-field is =
marked in the workflow template and in the first step.
 
But the workitem does not execute!
 
Does anybody have an idea?
 
Regards,
Werner.