Defining and transporting an organizational plan

Swami Bala swam_in at hotmail.com
Thu Jan 16 00:36:22 EST 2003


Hello Mike,
 
What exactly you mean by 'set the last number used in the source system' ?
 
Swami Bala
 
 
 
 
 
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>Transporting the org structure can be accomplished via
>a program called RHMOVE30.
>The benefits of doing this is if there are workflows
>with agent/position assignments that were transported,
>these assignments arrive intact.
>
>If you want to spend days or weeks changing your agent
>assignments in QA and PRD, then you can recreate your
>work in each system.
>
>Before transporting, you can select all of the stupid
>crappy test data people create in dev and leave it
>there. Who wants mickey mouse and fluffy the dog in
>the QA and PRD systems anyway? This is a very
>important step...also one of my hot buttons.
>
>You will also need to go to the target system and
>maintain table T777I and T777R.
>
>Do not forget to go to the target system and set the
>last number used in the source system.
>
>Happy Workflowing!!!
>
>Mike Petrosh
>Platinum CRM Technical Consultant
>
>
>--- Dale Davis <dkdavis at us.ibm.com> wrote:
> > Fred:
> >
> > Try this:
> >
> >
>|------------------------+------------------------+------------------------|
> > |Object Type             |Infotype
> > |Subtype                 |
> >
>|------------------------+------------------------+------------------------|
> > |S                       |1001
> > |A008                    |
> >
>|------------------------+------------------------+------------------------|
> >
> >
> > or  this
> >
> > OT = S
> > IT = 1001
> > ST = A008
> >
> > Regards,
> > Dale Davis Jones
> > IBM Business Consulting Services
> > Phone: 845-691-7861
> >            T/L 8-320-8440
> >   Internet Address: DKDAVIS at US.IBM.COM
> >
> > .......You can never discover new oceans unless you
> > have the courage to
> > lose sight of the shore..........
> >
> >
> > "Kouw, FA - SPLTC"
> > <fa.kouw at td.klm.com>@MITVMA.MIT.EDU> on 12/12/2002
> > 11:32:51 AM
> >
> > Please respond to "SAP Workflow Users' Group"
> > <SAP-WUG at MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
> >
> > Sent by:    SAP Workflow
> > <Owner-SAP-WUG at MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
> >
> >
> > To:    SAP-WUG at MITVMA.MIT.EDU
> > cc:
> > Subject:    Re: Defining and transporting an
> > organizational plan
> >
> >
> >
> > Dale,
> >
> > Thank you for your quick response again!
> > Unfortunately I can't receive any
> > attachments (picture etc.). Could you
> > please show it using text?
> >
> > Thanks again, this forum really helps!
> >
> > Greetings Fred Kouw
> >
> > Dale Davis wrote:
> >
> > > Fred:
> > >
> > > It should look like the following. No additional
> > set up should be
> > > necessary.
> > >
> > > (Embedded image moved to file: pic20159.pcx)
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Dale Davis Jones
> > > IBM Business Consulting Services
> > > Phone: 845-691-7861
> > >            T/L 8-320-8440
> > >   Internet Address: DKDAVIS at US.IBM.COM
> > >
> > > .......You can never discover new oceans unless
> > you have the courage to
> > > lose sight of the shore..........
> > >
> > > "Kouw, FA - SPLTC"
> > <fa.kouw at td.klm.com>@MITVMA.MIT.EDU> on 12/12/2002
> > > 11:10:15 AM
> > >
> > > Please respond to "SAP Workflow Users' Group"
> > <SAP-WUG at MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
> > >
> > > Sent by:    SAP Workflow
> > <Owner-SAP-WUG at MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
> > >
> > > To:    SAP-WUG at MITVMA.MIT.EDU
> > > cc:
> > > Subject:    Re: Defining and transporting an
> > organizational plan
> > >
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > Thanks for the (quick and clear) answer. It's
> > clear to me what to do:
> > > production user masters only exist in our
> > > production environment and we do not have HR
> > implemented, so we will
> > > maintain the org structure in the
> > > development environment and transport it to the
> > other environments.
> > >
> > > Can someone please tell me how to set up the 'is
> > holder of relationship'
> > in
> > > the override table T77TR using
> > > transaction OOTR? What entries should I use in the
> > colums of the table
> > > (must I define some values anywhere else
> > > to be able to select the entries I need)?
> > >
> > > Kind regards,
> > >
> > > Fred Kouw
> > >
> > > Dale Davis wrote:
> > >
> > > > There are several approaches that can be taken
> > to maintain org
> > > assignments
> > > > in a production environment.
> > > >
> > > > For SAP systems where HR is not implemented, and
> > production user
> > masters
> > > > only exist in the production system, our
> > preferred approach is to
> > > maintain
> > > > the org structure in the development environment
> > and transport to test
> > > and
> > > > production, then assign the users to  directly
> > in production.
> > > > In this scenario it is necessary to block the
> > production org from
> > > > development agent assignment overrides by
> > setting up the is holder of
> > > > relationship in the override table T77TR
> > accessed through transaction
> > > OOTR.
> > > > This guarantees that user assignments from the
> > development system do
> > not
> > > > wipe out the production systems  when org
> > structure changes are
> > > transported
> > > > to production.
> > > >
> > > > For SAP implementations where HR is implemented
> > or  production user
> > > master
> > > > tables are kept in synch with test user master
> > tables, user assignments
> > > are
> > > > sometimes maintained in the test system and
> > transported from that
> > system
> > > to
> > > > the production system. This is a less desirable
> > approach in an
> > > environment
> > > > where SAP security and basis  teams do not allow
> > transports to
> > production
> > > > systems which originate in test and lock the
> > system against transport
> > > > request generation. For this scenario,an
> > alternative approach is to ALE
> > > the
> > > > user assignments from the test system to
> > production.
> > > >
> > > > In general if we are implementing workflow in an
> > environment where our
> > > org
> > > > structures are owned by HR, we follow the HR
> > process's rule on where
> > the
> > > > user ids should be assigned and maintained and
> > utilize transports with
> > > > override blocks or ALE as appropriate.
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > > Dale Davis Jones
> > > > IBM Business Consulting Services
> > > > Phone: 845-691-7861
> > > >            T/L 8-320-8440
> > > >   Internet Address: DKDAVIS at US.IBM.COM
> > > >
> > > > .......You can never discover new oceans unless
> > you have the courage to
> > > > lose sight of the shore..........
> > > >
> > > > "Kouw, FA - SPLTC"
> > <fa.kouw at td.klm.com>@MITVMA.MIT.EDU> on 12/09/2002
> > > > 09:00:39 AM
> >
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