SWWDHEX job

[Squires, Geoff]

Jocelyn,
 
Your mentioned not to use WF-BATCH for scheduling the job.  Could you please
advise the reason for this?  We are currently using WF-BATCH for scheduling
SWWDHEX and SWWERRE.
 
Regards
 
Geoff Squires
SAP Business Services Group
Powercor Australia
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Dart, Jocelyn [mailto:jocelyn.dart at sap.com]
Sent: Monday, 25 November 2002 21:19
To: SAP-WUG at MITVMA.MIT.EDU
Subject: Re: SWWDHEX job
 
 
Hi Werner,
If you want to do your own scheduling of RSWWDHEX you can.
Just copy the job created by the customizing to your own job name
and add your scheduling period to the job as per usual.
SWU3 will show the job as not being scheduled but this is not important
provided you are actually running the program regularly.
Plus it gives you the opportunity to schedule the job under a batch user id
(btw. please don't use WF-BATCH - use a specific batch job user).
 
I would recommend adding the job to your regular batch schedule
documentation/
system administration lists.
 
Case-specific monitoring is not a good alternative if you are raising
significant volumes of work items with deadlines (think high 100s to 1000s
per day),
it is only intended for use with limited deadline activity.  Remember that
every
work item with a deadline has to be monitored whether or not the deadline is
exceeded.
Regards,
        Jocelyn Dart
Consultant (SRM, EBP, Workflow)
and co-author of the book
"Practical Workflow for SAP"
SAP Australia
email: jocelyn.dart at sap.com
phone: +61 412 390 267
fax:   +61 2 9935 4880
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Kjetil Kilhavn [mailto:kjetilk at statoil.com]
Sent: Thursday, 21 November 2002 7:03 PM
To: SAP-WUG at MITVMA.MIT.EDU
Subject: Re: SWWDHEX job
 
 
It is the program (RSWWDHEX) that reschedules itself when you choose
permanent monitoring, so if the program crashes there will not be any next
job. The job is not set up as a repeating job. I am not sure if the
case-specific monitoring would be a better approach. If the deadline job is
scheduled at the time of creating a work item with a deadline then the
case-specific monitoring would not suffer (as much).
 
The only other solution I can think of right now is to create a program
which checks if there is an active or scheduled SWWDHEX job and schedules
one if none is found. This program could then be set up in a repeating job.
Assuming sufficient funds are transferred to your Swiss bank account you
could then add bells and whistles, such as notification messages if the job
crashes several times in a row etc.
--
Kjetil Kilhavn
 
 
 
 
 
                    Michael Pokraka
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Hi Ram,
There are two ways of running this job - either scheduled as required or
at regular intervals. Both have advantages and disadvantages. I assume
from your scenario that you are using the first option (I think it's
also the first option in the menu as well - don't have system here right
now).
This means the job will run, determine when the next deadline is due,
and reschedule itself accordingly. A problem with this can be if the job
crashes, I've seen it happen where it doesn't get to schedule the next
occurrence.
Normally the source of the crash should be picked up - either by a short
dump, update failure or whateveressentially . Any background user's
mails should be forwarded to a human for these cases. The monitoring is
also a function that should involve basis as it affects not only this
job.
 
The other alternative is to use the regularly scheduled version which
will run e.g. every 5 min. The drawback is perhaps performance if you
only have a few deadlines per day.
 
HTH
Cheers
Mike
 
 
 
On Wed, 2002-11-20 at 21:59, Chintamaneni,Rammohan,GLENDALE,IS wrote:
> Hi All,
> We are facing a problem in production client that job SWWDHEX(Deadline
> monitoring job) getting discontinued some times. What we would like to
know
> is how to run this job continuously without interruption since we have
> workflows using the deadline monitoring for different applications. Your
> help is greatly appreciated.
> Thanks
> Ram
>
> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Kjetil Kilhavn [mailto:kjetilk at statoil.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 4:18 AM
> To: SAP-WUG at MITVMA.MIT.EDU
> Subject: Re: Workflow Customizing - Monitoring Job For Missed Deadlines
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> Yes! Don't you just love the user interface designers in SAP?
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> The behaviour is normal in the sense that this is how SAP behaves in this
> area. Interpret it as a sort of "done that" which is very "now-focused".
It
> is the overview in SWU3 that counts.
> --
> Kjetil Kilhavn
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>                     Please respond to
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> Hi all !
>
> When i call transaction SWU3 and execute the step "Monitoring job for
> missed
> deadlines is scheduled"
> i get a dialog where i can select 2 activities:
>  - Schedule backgr. job for case-specific deadline monitoring
>  - Optional: Schedule permanent deadline monitoring
> Now i pick both and click on the "choose"-Button.
> They both have a green tick on the left side.
> But there is no button o leave, so i click on the red cancel-button.
> The customzing is now ok (green light), but when i enter this selection
> again, there are no green ticks anymore???
>
> Regards,
> Werner.
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