How to start the dialog workflow process immediately without goin g to the workplace?

Mon Jul 15 06:21:27 EDT 2002

Guys,

if you really insist you could also:
- start the workflow by raising the event
- read the work item ID of your item from the system tables (waiting =
for the
item to be created, if ever)
- call SAP_WAPI_EXECUTE_WORKITEM on it
but when you start implementing this, you'll see part of the reasons =
why
it's not the right solution.

Cheers,
Tomasz

-----Original Message-----
From: Nicholas Brand [mailto:nicholas.n.brand at uk.pwcglobal.com]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 12:10 PM
To: SAP-WUG at MITVMA.MIT.EDU
Subject: Re: How to start the dialog workflow process immediately
without goin g to the workplace?

Memo from Nicholas N Brand of PricewaterhouseCoopers

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Jeroen et al,

I agree with you on this. I had a similar requirement a while ago - to
interupt a user's transaction with a user decision.
We worked around it by sending the user a workitem and the business =
process
instructed them to go to their inbox, execute the workitem and (in our
case) select a cost centre in a pop-up box (generated by custom ABAP
calling an SAP supplied function module..
So, the function you describe would have been useful here.

Any other experience out there?

Regards,
Nicholas

"Van der Burg, Jeroen JA SITI-ITPSEE" =
<Jeroen.J.vanderBurg at si.shell.com>
@MITVMA.MIT.EDU> on 15/07/2002 10:04:33

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Subject:    Re: How to start the dialog workflow process immediately
       without              goin g to the workplace?

Thomas, Stephan,

Unfortunately, you are right. As far as I know it is not possible to =
start
dialogue steps immediately.

Remember, you can start workflows immediately (eg using the Wapi's; you =
do
not have to use an rfc in many situations) but unfortunately you can =
not
throw the first dialogue step straight in the end user's face after a
workflow was started. I do not really see a technical restriction for =
this
(after all you can do this for a priority one workitem notification, so =
why
not just start the workitem immediately and interrupt the users' change =
of
transaction with the workitem screen?)

This would be very useful in numerous situations which require direct =
but
flexible user interaction and would allow us to replace some of the =
ugly
and
unmaintainable old SAP functionality for direct interaction =
requirements
(in
HR: features and dynamic events; which dates back to a long, long time =
ago
and still has to be used very extensively to set up a proper HR system)
which nice, clean, flexible and reliable workflow functionality.

Any other views on this?

Regards,

Jeroen

-----Original Message-----
From: Becker Stephan (extern)
[mailto:Stephan.Becker.ext at mchw.siemens.de]
Sent: 15 July 2002 10:39
To: SAP-WUG at MITVMA.MIT.EDU
Subject: AW: How to start the dialog workflow process immediately
without goin g to the workplace?

Jouri,

workflow always starts via RFC in a separate task, hence using workflow =
is
not the right tool if you want to display a decision during a dialog
transaction. Use a custom coded dialogue in an exit, and based on that
start
your workflow.

Hth,
Stephan

-----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht-----
Von: Grigorenko, J. (Joury) [mailto:Joury.Grigorenko at akzonobel.com]
Gesendet: Montag, 15. Juli 2002 10:21
An: SAP-WUG at MITVMA.MIT.EDU
Betreff: How to start the dialog workflow process immediately without
goin g to the workplace?
Wichtigkeit: Hoch

Dear Workflow experts,

Does anyone know how to start the Workflow flow process immediately =
without
going to the workplace? (I assume it is possible)

I am creating the event in the user in the update task, but I do not =
want
the user to get the notification first to go to the  INBOX , etc. I =
just
want the dialog to make a user decision be started immediately.

Have anyone experinece wth this. Are there any function modules to do =
this/

Thanks beforehand,

Regards,

Jouri Grigorenko
AKZO Nobel

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