How to start the dialog workflow process immediately without goin g to the workplace?

Mon Jul 15 05:40:13 EDT 2002

Jouri,

(I'll write a longer response on the fundamentals when time permits, but...)

As you pointed out if your code is within an update task, it doesn't have
the reference to user session.  This one is lost on the call of the code. So
if you cannot interact in the user's session, how would you expect the
workflow system to do this? That would be necessary to start the dialog...

Again -- please find where your code is called, and provide the interaction
where the user context is not lost yet. Raise the event afterwards.

Kind regards,
Tomasz

-----Original Message-----
From: Grigorenko, J. (Joury) [mailto:Joury.Grigorenko at akzonobel.com]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 11:21 AM
To: SAP-WUG at MITVMA.MIT.EDU
Subject: Re: How to start the dialog workflow process immediately
without goin g to the workplace?

Jeroen,

I do agree with you. This is what I would like to do. Instead of throwing
the priority 1 popup (Go to you Inbox), I would like to start the 1st step
(user decision) immediately.

Unfortunately I cannot use the dialog in the user-exit because it is a
user-exit in update task, so, as far as I know, I cannot call any screen or
transaction or report in it.
The whole thing has to do with goods receipt.

Regards,

Jouri

-----Original Message-----
From: Van der Burg, Jeroen JA SITI-ITPSEE
[mailto:Jeroen.J.vanderBurg at si.shell.com]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 11:05 AM
To: SAP-WUG at MITVMA.MIT.EDU
Subject: Re: How to start the dialog workflow process immediately
without goin g to the workplace?

Thomas, Stephan,

Unfortunately, you are right. As far as I know it is not possible to start
dialogue steps immediately.

Remember, you can start workflows immediately (eg using the Wapi's; you do
not have to use an rfc in many situations) but unfortunately you can not
throw the first dialogue step straight in the end user's face after a
workflow was started. I do not really see a technical restriction for this
(after all you can do this for a priority one workitem notification, so why
not just start the workitem immediately and interrupt the users' change of
transaction with the workitem screen?)

This would be very useful in numerous situations which require direct but
flexible user interaction and would allow us to replace some of the ugly and
unmaintainable old SAP functionality for direct interaction requirements (in
HR: features and dynamic events; which dates back to a long, long time ago
and still has to be used very extensively to set up a proper HR system)
which nice, clean, flexible and reliable workflow functionality.

Any other views on this?

Regards,

Jeroen

-----Original Message-----
From: Becker Stephan (extern)
[mailto:Stephan.Becker.ext at mchw.siemens.de]
Sent: 15 July 2002 10:39
To: SAP-WUG at MITVMA.MIT.EDU
Subject: AW: How to start the dialog workflow process immediately
without goin g to the workplace?

Jouri,

workflow always starts via RFC in a separate task, hence using workflow is
not the right tool if you want to display a decision during a dialog
transaction. Use a custom coded dialogue in an exit, and based on that start
your workflow.

Hth,
Stephan

-----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
Von: Grigorenko, J. (Joury) [mailto:Joury.Grigorenko at akzonobel.com]
Gesendet: Montag, 15. Juli 2002 10:21
An: SAP-WUG at MITVMA.MIT.EDU
Betreff: How to start the dialog workflow process immediately without
goin g to the workplace?
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Dear Workflow experts,

Does anyone know how to start the Workflow flow process immediately without
going to the workplace? (I assume it is possible)

I am creating the event in the user in the update task, but I do not want
the user to get the notification first to go to the  INBOX , etc. I just
want the dialog to make a user decision be started immediately.

Have anyone experinece wth this. Are there any function modules to do this/

Thanks beforehand,

Regards,

Jouri Grigorenko
AKZO Nobel