Defining and transporting an organizational plan

Thu Dec 12 12:14:55 EST 2002

Try this:

|------------------------+------------------------+------------------------|
|Object Type             |Infotype                |Subtype                 |
|------------------------+------------------------+------------------------|
|S                       |1001                    |A008                    |
|------------------------+------------------------+------------------------|

or  this

OT = S
IT = 1001
ST = A008

Regards,
Dale Davis Jones
IBM Business Consulting Services
Phone: 845-691-7861
           T/L 8-320-8440
  Internet Address: DKDAVIS at US.IBM.COM

.......You can never discover new oceans unless you have the courage to
lose sight of the shore..........

"Kouw, FA - SPLTC" <fa.kouw at td.klm.com>@MITVMA.MIT.EDU> on 12/12/2002
11:32:51 AM

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Subject:    Re: Defining and transporting an organizational plan

Dale,

Thank you for your quick response again! Unfortunately I can't receive any
attachments (picture etc.). Could you
please show it using text?

Thanks again, this forum really helps!

Greetings Fred Kouw

Dale Davis wrote:

> Fred:
>
> It should look like the following. No additional set up should be
> necessary.
>
> (Embedded image moved to file: pic20159.pcx)
>
> Regards,
> Dale Davis Jones
> IBM Business Consulting Services
> Phone: 845-691-7861
>            T/L 8-320-8440
>   Internet Address: DKDAVIS at US.IBM.COM
>
> .......You can never discover new oceans unless you have the courage to
> lose sight of the shore..........
>
> "Kouw, FA - SPLTC" <fa.kouw at td.klm.com>@MITVMA.MIT.EDU> on 12/12/2002
> 11:10:15 AM
>
> Please respond to "SAP Workflow Users' Group" <SAP-WUG at MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
>
> Sent by:    SAP Workflow <Owner-SAP-WUG at MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
>
> To:    SAP-WUG at MITVMA.MIT.EDU
> cc:
> Subject:    Re: Defining and transporting an organizational plan
>
> Hello,
>
> Thanks for the (quick and clear) answer. It's clear to me what to do:
> production user masters only exist in our
> production environment and we do not have HR implemented, so we will
> maintain the org structure in the
> development environment and transport it to the other environments.
>
> Can someone please tell me how to set up the 'is holder of relationship'
in
> the override table T77TR using
> transaction OOTR? What entries should I use in the colums of the table
> (must I define some values anywhere else
> to be able to select the entries I need)?
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Fred Kouw
>
> Dale Davis wrote:
>
> > There are several approaches that can be taken to maintain org
> assignments
> > in a production environment.
> >
> > For SAP systems where HR is not implemented, and production user
masters
> > only exist in the production system, our preferred approach is to
> maintain
> > the org structure in the development environment and transport to test
> and
> > production, then assign the users to  directly in production.
> > In this scenario it is necessary to block the production org from
> > development agent assignment overrides by setting up the is holder of
> > relationship in the override table T77TR accessed through transaction
> OOTR.
> > This guarantees that user assignments from the development system do
not
> > wipe out the production systems  when org structure changes are
> transported
> > to production.
> >
> > For SAP implementations where HR is implemented or  production user
> master
> > tables are kept in synch with test user master tables, user assignments
> are
> > sometimes maintained in the test system and transported from that
system
> to
> > the production system. This is a less desirable approach in an
> environment
> > where SAP security and basis  teams do not allow transports to
production
> > systems which originate in test and lock the system against transport
> > request generation. For this scenario,an alternative approach is to ALE
> the
> > user assignments from the test system to production.
> >
> > In general if we are implementing workflow in an environment where our
> org
> > structures are owned by HR, we follow the HR process's rule on where
the
> > user ids should be assigned and maintained and utilize transports with
> > override blocks or ALE as appropriate.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Dale Davis Jones
> > IBM Business Consulting Services
> > Phone: 845-691-7861
> >            T/L 8-320-8440
> >   Internet Address: DKDAVIS at US.IBM.COM
> >
> > .......You can never discover new oceans unless you have the courage to
> > lose sight of the shore..........
> >
> > "Kouw, FA - SPLTC" <fa.kouw at td.klm.com>@MITVMA.MIT.EDU> on 12/09/2002
> > 09:00:39 AM
> >
> > Please respond to "SAP Workflow Users' Group" <SAP-WUG at MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
> >
> > Sent by:    SAP Workflow <Owner-SAP-WUG at MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
> >
> > To:    SAP-WUG at MITVMA.MIT.EDU
> > cc:
> > Subject:    Defining and transporting an organizational plan
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > I tried to find an answer to my questions in the archives, but couldn't
> > find it.
> >
> > Can anyone tell me what's the best way to define an organizational
plan?
> > Some people define it in development and transport it to acceptance and
> > production. A problem that can arise is that all users are erased in
the
> > target environment (and thus must be defined again...). Others define
it
> > in development AND acceptance and copy it from acceptance to production
> > (users defined on acceptance are the same as on production, so the
> > problem mentioned before will not arise). Finally some set it up on all
> > environments (development, acceptance and production) separately.
> >
> > What's the best solution (we are configuring a completely new SAP
> > release)?
> >
> > Secondly: if you define the organizational plan on all environments
> > separately, how does the agent assignment in the step know what
position
> > must be used, because, as far as I know, the intenal number assignment
> > is used and these numbers can/will be different on
> > deverlopment/acceptance/production?
> >
> > Thanks in advance!
> >
> > Greetings Fred Kouw
> >
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