Plan version and workflow

[Marco Covino]

Memo from Marco Covino of PricewaterhouseCoopers
 
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Jeroen, Martin, Barnard,
 
thanks for your reply, which I could read only today.
 
I'll give you a bit more background.
I am implementing the Overall Release of Purchasing Requisition workflow,
20000077.
Is a standard template provided by sap.
 
In determining the approver I need to use the role resolution 00000168, superior
of workflow initiator,
and not the resolution determined by purchasing classification, release code and
strategy (OMGQ),
So I gave to the agent of the step 000004 (overall release of requisition) the
role resolution 00000168,
and i left all the possible agent of the tasks as general agents.
I created some units in OM and assigned to each unit an approver(manager) and a
group of requisitioner.
I have done my tests and everything works fine.
 
Now, my problem starts when I have to transport this in the live system.
The active plan is not suitable for the "superior of workflow initiator" role
resolution.
I thought that I could create different plan version and tailor them to the
workflow as I need,
but as you are suggesting this is not feasible.
So now I have a structure in which the units and the people do not reflect what
i would need for my Workflow.
What I need is this, in a simple example:
Hypothetically I have different groups of requisitioner, each group has got an
approver (manager),
the requisition raised go to the relevant manager.
Of course only a small portion of people in the overall OM active plan are
"requisitioner" or "approvers".
 
So now what would happen is that people belonging to these hypothetical
requisitioner groups
belong to different units, so that the role resolution clearly fails.
 
How can I achieve this, if possible without using abap...?
Apologise for my lack of knowledge but I just started to use workflow.
Thanks in advance,
 
Marco Covino
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
"Van der Burg, Jeroen JA SI-PSTP-L" <Jeroen.A.vanderBurg at IS.shell.com> on
20/09/2000 16:07:30
 
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Subject:  Re: Plan version and workflow
 
 
 
Bernhard,
 
Agree with your point of view, but would not start building your own
relationships or objects from the view of set up time and long term
maintenance. Extensions to PD can become horribly expensive in the long run
as maintenance of non-standard objects and relationships is very cumbersome
(although the creation of new objects, relationships etc. definitions is
easy enough).
 
Marco, I do not really understand what you are trying to achieve with your
superior role resolution. Please explain a bit further.
 
I have not come across a role resolution issue yet which could not be solved
using the flexibility of creating your own role resolution function modules.
You can combine different types of role resolution within one function
module quite easily, and give one type priority over another (ie when org
management role assignment does not lead to a result use role assignment
based on a workflow attribute, etc.). It does require sufficient knowledge
of ABAP and PD data structures though.
 
Next step is to create a standard role based on your function module. If
your role assignment requirements exceed what is standard available you
should investigate this route.
 
 
Regards,
 
 
Jeroen van der Burg
Shell Services International
 
 
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Knuth, Bernhard [mailto:bernhard.knuth at sap.com]
Sent: 20 September 2000 14:20
To: SAP-WUG at MITVMA.MIT.EDU
Subject: Re: Plan version and workflow
 
 
Hi Marco,
 
there should only be one plan version, for HR as well as for workflow.  I
highly recommend not to use two plan version.  You could run into lots of
problems.
 
In Organizational Management (OM) you are able to define your own
relationship types or even own OM-object types.  Based on that you can
create evaluation paths which should meet your requirements.  Good knowledge
in OM is needed, which is the content of HR550 training course.  Please
check, if that course is still offered anywhere.
 
Regards,
Bernhard Knuth
SAP BPT Consulting & Integration in Walldorf
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Marco Covino [mailto:marco.covino at uk.pwcglobal.com]
Sent: Mittwoch, 20. September 2000 13:56
To: SAP-WUG at MITVMA.MIT.EDU
Subject: Plan version and workflow
 
 
Memo from Marco Covino of PricewaterhouseCoopers
 
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Hi,
 
I would like to use a for my workflow a plan version which is different form
the
one that the HR module looks at, which if I am not wrong is the active
version.
I need to create a different and simplefied plan version to route the
"superior"
role resolution.
Is this possible?
Otherwise how could i overcome the problem?
 
thanks a lot,
your help will be very much apreciated.
 
Marco Covino
 
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