[OWW-Discuss] OpenWetWare.org: identity problem/identity feature?

Bill F bill.altmail at gmail.com
Mon Mar 31 17:17:54 EDT 2008


On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 5:09 PM, Jason Morrison <jason.p.morrison at gmail.com>
wrote:

> I definitely agree with the concern - i.e. looking at some random page
> (say http://openwetware.org/wiki/Bone_Marrow_Macrophages), it is difficult
> to determine who is responsible for the content, and I get no branding
> association to OWW.
>
> The one-time pop sounds like a good way to address this.  Does it occlude
> the content the user is looking for, or is it in-line text (say, above the
> article/talk/edit/history tabs, or between these and the H1)?


Nothing is occcluded. It's invisible to lab websites as well since the tag
is bracketed by "<wikionly>" tags.


> Occluding or blocking or significantly pushing down the desired content
> could be quite irritating for a user, but a subtle approach would likely
> address the issue while not keeping users from their desired content.  Also,
> be careful that spiders do not receive this pop, as that might hurt
> indexing.
>

This isn't a popup. It's a section of the page that's invisible to returning
visitors. In other words, the "visiblility" attribute is by default set to
'invisible'.


>
> It might also help to put "OpenWetWare" and a tagline on the upper-left
> wiki badge image, much like http://en.wikipedia.org/images/wiki-en.png(and Julius' suggested "Join OWW" button right next to or under this?)
>
> Jason
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 4:54 PM, Austin Che <austin at csail.mit.edu> wrote:
>
> >
> > > Once they click on the link to go to OWW, Barry pointed out that when
> > they
> > > land on one of our pages other than Main_Page or one of a dozen or
> > fewer
> > > other pages, there's nothing on the top of the page or in the sidebar
> > to
> > > identify the site. We become anonymous. The viewer has to scroll to
> > the
> > > bottom of the page to find a small link for "about openwetware.org".
> >
> >     I think people are familiar enough with looking at the url in
> >    their browser to know what site they're on. Also, the title of
> >    every page clearly includes OpenWetWare. Every browser I know
> >    includes this as part of the browser window title.
> >
> > > Our first attempt to address the problem will go online soon. We're
> > adding a
> > > one-time display of the text from the OWW main page telling users who
> > we are
> > > and inviting them to join. Once they have a cookie from our site, they
> > will
> > > never see it again. If they visit once and see a link that's not
> > relevant to
> > > them, the nxt time they visit and get wowed by our info, they may not
> > > connect the fact they found value at OWW and thus fail to look around
> > on the
> > > site.
> >
> >     This seems like a nice idea to try.
> >
> > > Does anyone have any thoughts about other ways to address this? Even
> > in UMS,
> > > every page has a banner identifying the site as OWW.
> >
> >     I don't think this is a problem.
> >
> > > We can add a banner to the skin over the white area of the page. This
> > banner
> > > would not ever be displayed on hosted lab's sites since the dewikify
> > app
> > > doesn't export the skins. I'm no artists. If anyone has a simple and
> > clear
> > > way to express who we are to visitors in an unobtrusive but clear way,
> > I'd
> > > love to hear about it.
> >
> >     I don't think we should waste screen space for banners advertising
> >    who we are. Anyone who cares (i.e. if there's useful content and
> >    they're looking for more) will have no problem finding the main
> >    page.
> >
> > --
> > Austin Che           <austin at csail.mit.edu>          (617)253-5899
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