[OWW-Discuss] "Contact Us" mods

Jenny Nguyen jennytnguyen at gmail.com
Mon Apr 7 15:29:33 EDT 2008 

I can look at it on Thursday. I have some exams and another design
commitment before that. If anyone can look at it before then, that;ll be
cool. Otherwise, Thursday it is.

On Mon, Apr 7, 2008 at 2:23 PM, Bill F <bill.altmail at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hey Jenny...
>
> Moot the praise or you may get volunteered into making it look more
> OWW-esque!
>
> There's a site (http://www.jsand.net/spinkbb/?lang=en) that allows us to
> customize the skin, largely by choosing options and HTML color codes. We can
> at least make it resemble the current OWW MediaWiki skin.
>
> Adding an OWW logo at the top is a one line change to the template file.
>
> If anyone has any time to look into this, please let me know.
>
> B.
>
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 7, 2008 at 3:01 PM, Jenny Nguyen <jennytnguyen at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > I like the forum. I would most likely use that if I were a new user
> > because e-mailing a big list of people as a newbie intimidates me.
> > Awesome job, Bill! :D
> >
> > Jenny
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Apr 7, 2008 at 1:57 PM, Bill F <bill.altmail at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > I'm not proposing to kill anything. Lists work. I'm just suggesting
> > > that something like a forum is another option. One that I think may be
> > > useful.
> > >
> > > Not to take away anything from my efforts but I've not done much. LOL.
> > > What matters is whether the community thinks it could work better than what
> > > we currently do in a somewhat sequestered atmosphere.
> > >
> > > On Mon, Apr 7, 2008 at 2:48 PM, julius.lucks <julius.lucks at gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > >  Hey Bill,
> > > > How hard would it be to have both the discussion forum going, and
> > > > the regular email-based discussion list?  If we can have both, we can
> > > > gradually do a migration over in which case I think what you have done is
> > > > awesome.
> > > >
> > > > Julius
> > > >
> > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > Please Reply to My Permanent Address: julius at younglucks.com
> > > > http://www.openwetware.org/wiki/User:Julius_B._Lucks
> > > >
> > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Apr 7, 2008, at 11:43 AM, Bill F wrote:
> > > >
> > > > 1. The page is changed. Anyone with Sysop permission can change it.
> > > > The link is
> > > >
> > > >       http://openwetware.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Contact
> > > >
> > > > 2. I've had experience with a number of discussion forum products.
> > > > The simplest and most efficient is the lightweight "PunBB" forum. It's not
> > > > as clumsy and garish as phpBB nor is it as well-supported with a large
> > > > community as phpBB, simple machine forum, or Vanilla ( a product and not an
> > > > OS project). But it's very solid and used by a lot of hosts.
> > > >
> > > > There's no MediaWiki integration with it at this point. The only
> > > > mediawiki integration present with any forum is to allow MediaWiki's OpenID
> > > > to become a client to it. Since OWW currently is an OpenID server, this
> > > > isn't immediately an option.
> > > >
> > > > Keep in mind that there's no integration with WordPressMU either and
> > > > we still use it.
> > > >
> > > > I downloaded and installed the software here:
> > > >
> > > > http://www.openwetware.org/forum
> > > >
> > > > Take a look at it.
> > > >
> > > > If we can get by without integration initially, it would be a lot
> > > > better than what we're doing. Over time, we can add integration to the wiki.
> > > > We can immediately add Google Analytics to it and make sure it gets spidered
> > > > by Google for search. We can add more sophisticated integration later.
> > > >
> > > > This took 10-15 minutes to do: I'm not hijacking priorities to do
> > > > this. I've spent at least that long reading and replying to this thread:
> > > > it's no big deal. But if I need to spend more time on it, we'll have to
> > > > schedule and prioritize the work.
> > > >
> > > > Remember. This is JUST a suggestion. If you kill the messenger,
> > > > please tell my wife that I won't be home for dinner.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Apr 7, 2008 at 2:25 PM, Lorrie LeJeune <moltogatti at gmail.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I don't think it's too wild an idea. We use WordPress for blogging
> > > > > rather than the wiki because it's better suited for the task. Why not use a
> > > > > discussion list server for a discussion list? There must be some list server
> > > > > software out there that would give us the features we want and still
> > > > > integrate with OWW the way WordPress does.
> > > > >
> > > > > --L
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Mon, Apr 7, 2008 at 2:02 PM, Ricardo Vidal <rvidal at gmail.com>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > If there is so much discussion really going on, I'd think it be
> > > > > > best to have a discussion board and not a blackhole email discussion
> > > > > > mailinglist. You know, so that previous questions/answers can be found.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > But obviously a discussion board is a whole new matter. So I
> > > > > > apologize going a bit off topic.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ~R
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Mon, Apr 7, 2008 at 1:54 PM, julius.lucks <
> > > > > > julius.lucks at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Then let's forward the feedback list to duscuss so more people
> > > > > > > see these
> > > > > > > messages and can respond.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > J
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Sent from my iPhone
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Apr 7, 2008, at 10:46 AM, Austin Che <austin at csail.mit.edu>
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >    Getting all contacts to be on the feedback list seems
> > > > > > > >    impractical. For example, recently on the feedback list:
> > > > > > > >    "Hi I was wondering were you purchased or harvested the
> > > > > > > algea that
> > > > > > > >    you used in the bio reator."
> > > > > > > >    It's impossible to determine who should even be on the
> > > > > > > feedback
> > > > > > > >    list to answer this question. And I really don't think
> > > > > > > someone who
> > > > > > > >    just wants to put up a protocol about algae wants to be
> > > > > > > on a list
> > > > > > > >    that receives questions about every topic under the sun.
> > > > > > > However,
> > > > > > > >    they probably are interested in questions related to
> > > > > > > algae
> > > > > > > >    protocols so some way of directing those questions to
> > > > > > > them is
> > > > > > > > useful.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >> Can we get lab contacts and protocol writers etc
> > > > > > > automatically
> > > > > > > >> sitting
> > > > > > > >> on the feedback list?
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> Sent from my iPhone
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> On Apr 7, 2008, at 9:37 AM, Austin Che <
> > > > > > > austin at csail.mit.edu> wrote:
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > >>>   The message on the page already says to leave a message
> > > > > > > on the
> > > > > > > >>>   talk page. It is a much lower barrier to entry to type a
> > > > > > > message
> > > > > > > >>>   into a text box than getting an account and posting on a
> > > > > > > talk
> > > > > > > >>>   page. The majority of messages that we have already
> > > > > > > received have
> > > > > > > >>>   been for specific people/protocols. My feeling is that
> > > > > > > >>>   restricting the comments to only feedback about the site
> > > > > > > will mean
> > > > > > > >>>   we will get no feedback and those who really do have
> > > > > > > useful
> > > > > > > >>>   feedback for labs won't give them at all.
> > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > >>>> We should also put something in the message that if they
> > > > > > > want to
> > > > > > > >>>> leave
> > > > > > > >>>> a message for a particular person or lab, then they can
> > > > > > > join OWW
> > > > > > > >>>> and
> > > > > > > >>>> leave a message on a talk page.
> > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> J
> > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> On Apr 7, 2008, at 8:47 AM, "Barry Canton" <
> > > > > > > bcanton at mit.edu> wrote:
> > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>  It'd be nice if the contact page could look at the
> > > > > > > referring
> > > > > > > >>>>>> page
> > > > > > > >>>>>>  and based on that, "do the right thing." For example,
> > > > > > > if I'm
> > > > > > > >>>>>>  looking at the Endy lab page, the contact form should
> > > > > > > send an
> > > > > > > >>>>>>  email to the endy lab contact. The simplest
> > > > > > > implementation I can
> > > > > > > >>>>>>  think of is to have a special tag people could put on
> > > > > > > pages for
> > > > > > > >>>>>>  example, {{contact:myemail at blah}}. Labs would put it
> > > > > > > into their
> > > > > > > >>>>>>  lab template, protocol writers would put it into their
> > > > > > > >>>>>> protocols,
> > > > > > > >>>>>>  etc. The contact page extension would try to find such
> > > > > > > a tag and
> > > > > > > >>>>>>  if it exists, send the comment email there. Otherwise,
> > > > > > > it sends
> > > > > > > >>>>>> to
> > > > > > > >>>>>>  the generic oww feedback address.
> > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>> Personally, I think it makes more sense if the behavior
> > > > > > > of the
> > > > > > > >>>>> "Contact OWW" button is consistent across the wiki.  I
> > > > > > > think the
> > > > > > > >>>>> proposal to make the text on the contact us page better
> > > > > > > explain
> > > > > > > >>>>> who
> > > > > > > >>>>> the feedback is sent to will be sufficient.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > Austin Che           <austin at csail.mit.edu>
> > > > > > >  (617)253-5899
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> > > > > > --
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