[OWW-Discuss] "Contact Us" mods
julius.lucks
julius.lucks at gmail.com
Mon Apr 7 14:48:28 EDT 2008
Hey Bill,
How hard would it be to have both the discussion forum going, and the
regular email-based discussion list? If we can have both, we can
gradually do a migration over in which case I think what you have
done is awesome.
Julius
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On Apr 7, 2008, at 11:43 AM, Bill F wrote:
> 1. The page is changed. Anyone with Sysop permission can change it.
> The link is
>
> http://openwetware.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Contact
>
> 2. I've had experience with a number of discussion forum products.
> The simplest and most efficient is the lightweight "PunBB" forum.
> It's not as clumsy and garish as phpBB nor is it as well-supported
> with a large community as phpBB, simple machine forum, or Vanilla
> ( a product and not an OS project). But it's very solid and used by
> a lot of hosts.
>
> There's no MediaWiki integration with it at this point. The only
> mediawiki integration present with any forum is to allow
> MediaWiki's OpenID to become a client to it. Since OWW currently is
> an OpenID server, this isn't immediately an option.
>
> Keep in mind that there's no integration with WordPressMU either
> and we still use it.
>
> I downloaded and installed the software here:
>
> http://www.openwetware.org/forum
>
> Take a look at it.
>
> If we can get by without integration initially, it would be a lot
> better than what we're doing. Over time, we can add integration to
> the wiki. We can immediately add Google Analytics to it and make
> sure it gets spidered by Google for search. We can add more
> sophisticated integration later.
>
> This took 10-15 minutes to do: I'm not hijacking priorities to do
> this. I've spent at least that long reading and replying to this
> thread: it's no big deal. But if I need to spend more time on it,
> we'll have to schedule and prioritize the work.
>
> Remember. This is JUST a suggestion. If you kill the messenger,
> please tell my wife that I won't be home for dinner.
>
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 7, 2008 at 2:25 PM, Lorrie LeJeune
> <moltogatti at gmail.com> wrote:
> I don't think it's too wild an idea. We use WordPress for blogging
> rather than the wiki because it's better suited for the task. Why
> not use a discussion list server for a discussion list? There must
> be some list server software out there that would give us the
> features we want and still integrate with OWW the way WordPress does.
>
> --L
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 7, 2008 at 2:02 PM, Ricardo Vidal <rvidal at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> If there is so much discussion really going on, I'd think it be
> best to have a discussion board and not a blackhole email
> discussion mailinglist. You know, so that previous questions/
> answers can be found.
>
> But obviously a discussion board is a whole new matter. So I
> apologize going a bit off topic.
>
> ~R
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 7, 2008 at 1:54 PM, julius.lucks
> <julius.lucks at gmail.com> wrote:
> Then let's forward the feedback list to duscuss so more people see
> these
> messages and can respond.
>
> J
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Apr 7, 2008, at 10:46 AM, Austin Che <austin at csail.mit.edu> wrote:
>
> >
> > Getting all contacts to be on the feedback list seems
> > impractical. For example, recently on the feedback list:
> > "Hi I was wondering were you purchased or harvested the algea
> that
> > you used in the bio reator."
> > It's impossible to determine who should even be on the feedback
> > list to answer this question. And I really don't think someone
> who
> > just wants to put up a protocol about algae wants to be on a list
> > that receives questions about every topic under the sun. However,
> > they probably are interested in questions related to algae
> > protocols so some way of directing those questions to them is
> > useful.
> >
> >> Can we get lab contacts and protocol writers etc automatically
> >> sitting
> >> on the feedback list?
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >> On Apr 7, 2008, at 9:37 AM, Austin Che <austin at csail.mit.edu>
> wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>> The message on the page already says to leave a message on the
> >>> talk page. It is a much lower barrier to entry to type a message
> >>> into a text box than getting an account and posting on a talk
> >>> page. The majority of messages that we have already received
> have
> >>> been for specific people/protocols. My feeling is that
> >>> restricting the comments to only feedback about the site will
> mean
> >>> we will get no feedback and those who really do have useful
> >>> feedback for labs won't give them at all.
> >>>
> >>>> We should also put something in the message that if they want to
> >>>> leave
> >>>> a message for a particular person or lab, then they can join OWW
> >>>> and
> >>>> leave a message on a talk page.
> >>>>
> >>>> J
> >>>>
> >>>> On Apr 7, 2008, at 8:47 AM, "Barry Canton" <bcanton at mit.edu>
> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>>> It'd be nice if the contact page could look at the referring
> >>>>>> page
> >>>>>> and based on that, "do the right thing." For example, if I'm
> >>>>>> looking at the Endy lab page, the contact form should send an
> >>>>>> email to the endy lab contact. The simplest implementation
> I can
> >>>>>> think of is to have a special tag people could put on pages
> for
> >>>>>> example, {{contact:myemail at blah}}. Labs would put it into
> their
> >>>>>> lab template, protocol writers would put it into their
> >>>>>> protocols,
> >>>>>> etc. The contact page extension would try to find such a
> tag and
> >>>>>> if it exists, send the comment email there. Otherwise, it
> sends
> >>>>>> to
> >>>>>> the generic oww feedback address.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Personally, I think it makes more sense if the behavior of the
> >>>>> "Contact OWW" button is consistent across the wiki. I think the
> >>>>> proposal to make the text on the contact us page better explain
> >>>>> who
> >>>>> the feedback is sent to will be sufficient.
> >
> > --
> > Austin Che <austin at csail.mit.edu> (617)253-5899
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