[OWW-Discuss] Microscopy question: follow up

Reshma Shetty rshetty at MIT.EDU
Thu Jul 26 11:47:04 EDT 2007 

Hey Trevor,

Thanks for your email.  Your confusion about where to put stuff is
totally understandable.  We're still struggling to figure out how to
best organize information on OpenWetWare.  You are totally right that
the best thing to do is to just post information and then it can be
reorganized by others as needed.

For the sake of answering your question, the best place to put
information depends on what information you want to post.  If you just
want to add a link to a webpage or a quick note, people generally add
it to an existing page.  Like http://openwetware.org/wiki/Microscopy
This page is intended to be a portal to anything having to do with
Microscopy on OpenWetWare.

If you are interested in adding say a whole new protocol having to do
with imaging or microscopy, then you could just start a new page and
put the following line at the bottom ...

[[Category:Microscopy]] [[Category:Protocol]]

This will make the a link to that page show up both on
http://openwetware.org/wiki/Protocols under Other protocols:Microscopy
and on the page
http://openwetware.org/wiki/Microscopy.  (Both pages autogenerate
links to anything tagged with the Categories "Microscopy" and
"Protocol".)

If you wanted to start a whole new page on a protocol having to do
with software for microscopy image analysis.  Then you could add the
line

[[Category:Microscopy]] [[Category:Protocol]] [[Category:In silico]]

to the bottom of the page.  This will make the page show up both on the page
http://openwetware.org/wiki/Protocols under the topic Other
protocols:Microscopy AND the topic In silico.  And again, it will also
show up on http://openwetware.org/wiki/Microscopy.

Basically, we're trying to give people as many ways as possible to
find the relevant info.  Let me know if this makes sense or is just
totally confusing.

Also, more generally, it would be great to be talking about how to
best organize information on OWW so that it can be found easily and
people can post easily.  Thanks to Trevor for highlighting this issues
with OWW.  If people have ideas or feedback, please send them to the
list or to me.

Thanks,

Reshma


On 7/25/07, Trevor McKee <trevordmckee at gmail.com> wrote:
> Just a quick e-mail to clarify the issue:
>
> I was able to find the Protocols:Other protocols:Microscopy section OK, I
> guess my thoughts were more of a confusion as to whether to put microscopy
> and image analysis under  Protocols:Other protocols:Microscopy, Protocols:in
> silico, or Resources:Microscopy.  I guess since it's a wiki, I could put it
> somewhere, and then let someone else edit it to another location afterwards
> - is that the idea?
>
> I'd be happy to start an imaging section, if you could tell me which of
> those major webpages / categories it would fall under.  I agree that some
> sort of topics portal would be nice from a new user's perspective, because
> especially for those new to wiki's, the whole process of editing the front
> page or some major page ( i.e. Resources, Protocols, etc.) to start a new
> section is somewhat intimidating (i.e. i don't want to muck up the site,
> having just started to use it)
>
> Thanks again for your help,
> Trevor
>
>
> > > We should try to figure out why it was difficult for him to locate
> > > these links on his own, and make it easier.
> >
> > Yeah, agreed.
> >
> > Part of the problem is that there isn't really a big 'imaging' area on
> > OWW at the moment, so he'd have to start a section.  And I think the
> > barrier is still pretty high to starting a new topic area on the site,
> > new community members seem to be a lot more comfortable adding to
> > existing resources than starting new ones.  Maybe we should make the
> > process of starting "topic portals" more turnkey, or have a page
> > dedicated to them?  I think they are currently in the 'Reference
> > Materials' column of the Resources page:
> > http://openwetware.org/wiki/Resources
> >
> > We do a better job aggregating and explaining how to add protocols and
> > lab homepages, which is why I think we get more of those.
> >
> > As for the 'getting started' pages, we email the links in the welcome
> > email and the help button is on the homepage and the toolbar.  Reshma
> > also just added an icon to the help button on the labs page which
> > should make it more noticeable:
> > http://openwetware.org/wiki/Labs
> >
> > any other suggestions welcome, or other problems that people have had
> > in finding particular types of information on the site.
> >
> > thanks,
> > jason
> >
> > On 7/24/07, Tom Knight <tk at csail.mit.edu> wrote:
> > > We should try to figure out why it was difficult for him to locate
> > > these links on his own, and make it easier.
> > >
> > > On Jul 24, 2007, at 9:19 AM, Trevor McKee wrote:
> > >
> > > > Great, thanks a lot for the links.
> > > >
> > > > Yeah, figured I'd give it a go. I'm not so much a "wetlab" person as
> > > > I am an imaging person - but OWW is a neat concept, and a little more
> > > > amenable to editing than our current webpage (which was designed by
> > > > one of my summer students last year). I'm happy to contribute to any
> > > > imaging related discussions should you need any particular resources -
> > > > one very good reference for imaging is ImageJ, the open-source java
> > > > based image editing and measurement program for science - you can find
> > > > the program and project page at
> > > >
> > > > http://rsb.info.nih.gov/ij/
> > > >
> > > > and you can also find a manual put together by one of the core
> > > > facilities at our institution:
> > > >
> > > >
> http://www.uhnres.utoronto.ca/facilities/wcif/imagej/
> > > >
> > > > Point me in the right direction and I can stick that info on a page
> > > > (in case it's not up there already)...
> > > >
> > > > Is the oww-discuss list for this kind of stuff, or is the discussion
> > > > oriented more within the wiki pages? Sorry - I'm a little too old
> > > > school for all this new fangled web 2.0 stuff - thanks for helping me
> > > > along. :)
> > > >
> > > > Also, I hope to see some of you at the BE / Chem E BBQ next week, as
> > > > I'm back in town doing some experiments to finish up a (seemingly
> > > > endless) paper for my former PI there - and if they'll accept crufty
> > > > alums, I'm down with getting some free Redbones, for old time's sake.
> > > > :)
> > > >
> > > > - Trev
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 7/24/07, Sri Kosuri <skosuri at mit.edu> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> Good to see you on OWW! As for editing wiki pages, the easiest thing
> > > >> to do is to look at another page that has similar formating, and copy
> > > >> and paste the code into your new page. Then you can change the
> > > >> specifics of anything you need. Also, we'll keep a look out for you
> > > >> and help you along the way.
> > > >>
> > > >> Sri
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> On 7/24/07, Reshma Shetty < rshetty at mit.edu> wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>> See the help pages at
> http://openwetware.org/wiki/Help:Contents
> > > >>>
> > > >>> In particular, these two tutorials might be helpful ...
> > > >>>
> > > >>> for getting started on OWW
> > > >>>
> http://openwetware.org/wiki/OpenWetWare:Getting_started
> > > >>>
> > > >>> for starting a lab wiki on OWW
> > > >>>
> http://openwetware.org/wiki/Help:Starting_a_lab_wiki
> > > >>>
> > > >>> If you have questions beyond this, let us know.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Thanks,
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Reshma
> > > >>>
> > > >>> On 7/24/07, Trevor David McKee < tdmckee at alum.mit.edu > wrote:
> > > >>> > Hi all,
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > Great site - I've just put my lab's site up in the "labs in
> > > >>> development"
> > > >>> > portion of OWW - and quickly realized I have no clue how to design
> > > >>> wiki
> > > >>> > pages.Any suggestions you could provide on free / inexpensive
> > > >>> tutorials on
> > > >>> > wiki?I know some basic html, but editing wiki pages is
> > > >>> sufficienly new for
> > > >>> > me that I have no clue what all the different formatting rules
> > > >>> are, etc.
> > > >>> > Sorry for the newbie question, and thanks for any help you could
> > > >>> provide.
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > Thanks a lot.
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > - Trevor
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > -------------------------------------
> > > >>> > Trevor D. McKee, Ph.D  .
> > > >>> > Postdoctoral Fellow
> > > >>> > Princess Margaret Hospital
> > > >>> > 610 University Avenue
> > > >>> > 10th Floor Room 328
> > > >>> > Toronto, ON M5G 2M9, Canada
> > > >>> > tmckee at uhnres.utoronto.ca
> > > >>> > lab416-946-4501 x5622
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