>>>>> "Mike" == Mike Friedman <mikef at ack.Berkeley.EDU> writes: Mike> Sam, Mike> If I don't use DES3 keys at all in my KDC, do I still need Mike> to run with 'V4 none' or 'V4 disable' to be protected? Mike> Mike Yes. There were two issues: 1) v4 is broken 2) MIT's 3DES support for v4 is more broken than v4 normally is.