strength of encryption types

[Sam Hartman]

>>>>> "h" ==   <Rahul.Jain at wellsfargo.com> writes:

    h> How strong is 3DES with MD5 without HMAC or key derivation?


Keep in mind that practically the only thing using 3des without hmac
or KD is packetcable or Cybersafe.  In particular, Heimdal, MIT and
Sun's Java implementation all implement kd and hmac.

--Sam