[ecco-support] [EXTERNAL] CORRECTION: How to get the total diffusivity in ECCOv4
Wang, Ou (US 329B)
ou.wang at jpl.nasa.gov
Sat Jul 24 01:07:33 EDT 2021
Yes.
-Ou
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Subject: Re: [ecco-support] [EXTERNAL] CORRECTION: How to get the total diffusivity in ECCOv4
Thanks Ou, found it! And the .meta file is the same as input_init<https://ecco.jpl.nasa.gov/drive/files/Version4/Release3/input_init> /xx_diffkr.0000000059.<https://ecco.jpl.nasa.gov/drive/files/Version4/Release3/input_init/xx_diffkr.0000000059.data>meta , right?
Paola
On Jul 23, 2021, at 5:26 PM, Wang, Ou (US 329B) <ou.wang at jpl.nasa.gov<mailto:ou.wang at jpl.nasa.gov>> wrote:
Hi Paola,
The dimensional adjusted diffusivity for Release 3 is in https://ecco.jpl.nasa.gov/drive/files/Version4/Release3/other/adjusted/xx_diffkr.dim.adjusted.0000000059.data<https://urldefense.us/v3/__https:/urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ecco.jpl.nasa.gov_drive_files_Version4_Release3_other_adjusted_xx-5Fdiffkr.dim.adjusted.0000000059.data&d=DwMGaQ&c=-35OiAkTchMrZOngvJPOeA&r=YvEcUc3iPS8v6LXnkXPI-w&m=nOXKAklfyFn2aPSp4BhLVNBbAX4GgIAPKqUe1AKm844&s=A4bofhwA7QXu9Wvmx6KHbbAwIBGP9quFPN2w8sQGM5M&e=__;!!PvBDto6Hs4WbVuu7!eilkxLFTGqgTOwu7vR0R-AIvPUW_YKUE-LpaNcpOke9NedgA3IjcHcR9dKusSQS1I0c$>.
Best,
Ou
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Subject: Re: [ecco-support] [EXTERNAL] CORRECTION: How to get the total diffusivity in ECCOv4
Hi Ou,
I am having the same problem as Christopher, but with release 3: I downloaded files<https://urldefense.us/v3/__https:/urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ecco.jpl.nasa.gov_drive_files&d=DwMGaQ&c=-35OiAkTchMrZOngvJPOeA&r=YvEcUc3iPS8v6LXnkXPI-w&m=nOXKAklfyFn2aPSp4BhLVNBbAX4GgIAPKqUe1AKm844&s=yb0X6mbL6iXYf2njuGphJVi6iN9UZdyUuDY6w_gxHwI&e=__;!!PvBDto6Hs4WbVuu7!eilkxLFTGqgTOwu7vR0R-AIvPUW_YKUE-LpaNcpOke9NedgA3IjcHcR9dKusWTUrpac$> / Version4<https://urldefense.us/v3/__https:/urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ecco.jpl.nasa.gov_drive_files_Version4&d=DwMGaQ&c=-35OiAkTchMrZOngvJPOeA&r=YvEcUc3iPS8v6LXnkXPI-w&m=nOXKAklfyFn2aPSp4BhLVNBbAX4GgIAPKqUe1AKm844&s=w1WCTWPCxPnK59oJ-3GiHyo1aFJKSLYLvp1fDzt7Bbo&e=__;!!PvBDto6Hs4WbVuu7!eilkxLFTGqgTOwu7vR0R-AIvPUW_YKUE-LpaNcpOke9NedgA3IjcHcR9dKus__6rxj0$> / Release3<https://urldefense.us/v3/__https:/urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ecco.jpl.nasa.gov_drive_files_Version4_Release3&d=DwMGaQ&c=-35OiAkTchMrZOngvJPOeA&r=YvEcUc3iPS8v6LXnkXPI-w&m=nOXKAklfyFn2aPSp4BhLVNBbAX4GgIAPKqUe1AKm844&s=sC_1QsWfrbNjiNocgiiQs0O7JcJQNVaNWX1TgOLSPuk&e=__;!!PvBDto6Hs4WbVuu7!eilkxLFTGqgTOwu7vR0R-AIvPUW_YKUE-LpaNcpOke9NedgA3IjcHcR9dKuspj5ZZic$> / input_init<https://urldefense.us/v3/__https:/urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ecco.jpl.nasa.gov_drive_files_Version4_Release3_input-5Finit&d=DwMGaQ&c=-35OiAkTchMrZOngvJPOeA&r=YvEcUc3iPS8v6LXnkXPI-w&m=nOXKAklfyFn2aPSp4BhLVNBbAX4GgIAPKqUe1AKm844&s=w4pztQLAbGd8hz_2CD_ueWGBBtmFJCokpjxntE15g2s&e=__;!!PvBDto6Hs4WbVuu7!eilkxLFTGqgTOwu7vR0R-AIvPUW_YKUE-LpaNcpOke9NedgA3IjcHcR9dKusNPrcftA$> /xx_diffkr.0000000059.data<https://urldefense.us/v3/__https:/urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ecco.jpl.nasa.gov_drive_files_Version4_Release3_input-5Finit_xx-5Fdiffkr.0000000059.data&d=DwMGaQ&c=-35OiAkTchMrZOngvJPOeA&r=YvEcUc3iPS8v6LXnkXPI-w&m=nOXKAklfyFn2aPSp4BhLVNBbAX4GgIAPKqUe1AKm844&s=jtlDlLUSPvUkEeO_f-DYCKma9PxcsJj0ApkYW8pHJEU&e=__;!!PvBDto6Hs4WbVuu7!eilkxLFTGqgTOwu7vR0R-AIvPUW_YKUE-LpaNcpOke9NedgA3IjcHcR9dKusgnJFwDE$>, and the range of values is [-0.6 0.4]: too large to be vertical diffusivities (negative?). Can you please point me to the diffusivity files for release3?
Many thanks,
Paola
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On Jun 4, 2021, at 11:40 AM, Wang, Ou (US 329B) <ou.wang at jpl.nasa.gov<mailto:ou.wang at jpl.nasa.gov>> wrote:
Hi Christopher,
One correction to the alternative way I mentioned;
Alternatively, you can calculate it by summing up the first guess of a constant 1e-5 m^2/s (not total_diffkr_r009bit11.bin)and xx_diffkr.dim.0000000129.data.
See Forget et al. (2015; doi:10.5194/gmd-8-3071-2015), Table 1 for the first guess of the mixing parameters.
Ou
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Subject: Re: [ecco-support] [EXTERNAL] How to get the total diffusivity in ECCOv4
Hi Christopher,
PO.DAAC is now hosting V4r4’s files. You can get V4r4’s dimensional vertical diffusivity field (first guess plus the control adjustment) from PO.DAAC at https://archive.podaac.earthdata.nasa.gov/podaac-ops-cumulus-protected/ECCO_L4_OCEAN_3D_MIX_COEFFS_LLC0090GRID_V4R4/OCEAN_3D_MIXING_COEFFS_ECCO_V4r4_native_llc0090.nc<https://urldefense.us/v3/__https:/urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__urldefense.us_v3_-5F-5Fhttps-3A_urldefense.proofpoint.com_v2_url-3Fu-3Dhttps-2D3A-5F-5Furldefense.us-5Fv3-5F-2D5F-2D5Fhttps-2D3A-5Farchive.podaac.earthdata.nasa.gov-5Fpodaac-2D2Dops-2D2Dcumulus-2D2Dprotected-5FECCO-2D5FL4-2D5FOCEAN-2D5F3D-2D5FMIX-2D5FCOEFFS-2D5FLLC0090GRID-2D5FV4R4-5FOCEAN-2D5F3D-2D5FMIXING-2D5FCOEFFS-2D5FECCO-2D5FV4r4-2D5Fnative-2D5Fllc0090.nc-2D5F-2D5F-2D3B-2D21-2D21PvBDto6Hs4WbVuu7-2D21bO3-2D2DZfkkeOEujVIhL2nn3AEb9q1Zl86CHb1ZTrYDdah4HPKuSZ-2D5FF2v6ZPAv3JA9Giy4-2D24-26d-3DDwMGaQ-26c-3D-2D35OiAkTchMrZOngvJPOeA-26r-3DYvEcUc3iPS8v6LXnkXPI-2Dw-26m-3D6Ilpubv4qn3OD41-2D8yhyk6uu5j1XJQRLMfnf7OSEpRQ-26s-3DFPXRnuyQe-5FXQBb92q8-5FlgGGF7xNgSrdEC2S7NliIZnw-26e-3D-5F-5F-3B-21-21PvBDto6Hs4WbVuu7-21fsxdH6il0cs8gPy2j4KkEKbm6gA3GeQz5DpxJVmVJfeEihLVQgSFhGROuiWeNAyI-5FLY-24&d=DwMGaQ&c=-35OiAkTchMrZOngvJPOeA&r=YvEcUc3iPS8v6LXnkXPI-w&m=nOXKAklfyFn2aPSp4BhLVNBbAX4GgIAPKqUe1AKm844&s=wSaAr_wxeEzc3X2p37ESDuKAU4MwwJa_bMDjmSjK2Rc&e=__;!!PvBDto6Hs4WbVuu7!eilkxLFTGqgTOwu7vR0R-AIvPUW_YKUE-LpaNcpOke9NedgA3IjcHcR9dKusX9mi96A$>. The variable is called “DIFFKR” in the NetCDF file. Alternatively, you can calculate it by summing up total_diffkr_r009bit11.bin and xx_diffkr.dim.0000000129.data that are available on ECCO Drive at https://ecco.jpl.nasa.gov/drive/files/Version4/Release4/input_init/total_diffkr_r009bit11.bin<https://urldefense.us/v3/__https:/urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__urldefense.us_v3_-5F-5Fhttps-3A_urldefense.proofpoint.com_v2_url-3Fu-3Dhttps-2D3A-5F-5Fecco.jpl.nasa.gov-5Fdrive-5Ffiles-5FVersion4-5FRelease4-5Finput-2D5Finit-5Ftotal-2D5Fdiffkr-2D5Fr009bit11.bin-26d-3DDwQGaQ-26c-3D-2D35OiAkTchMrZOngvJPOeA-26r-3DYvEcUc3iPS8v6LXnkXPI-2Dw-26m-3D6Ilpubv4qn3OD41-2D8yhyk6uu5j1XJQRLMfnf7OSEpRQ-26s-3DAt-5FqtxweGPSK3iWrt0MTdwFZh-2DQh5o8DZk6kxGJy3qc-26e-3D-5F-5F-3B-21-21PvBDto6Hs4WbVuu7-21fsxdH6il0cs8gPy2j4KkEKbm6gA3GeQz5DpxJVmVJfeEihLVQgSFhGROuiWepw7u788-24&d=DwMGaQ&c=-35OiAkTchMrZOngvJPOeA&r=YvEcUc3iPS8v6LXnkXPI-w&m=nOXKAklfyFn2aPSp4BhLVNBbAX4GgIAPKqUe1AKm844&s=ImVfTv2sblvKU_kVvI-R5_1HPnLdnEptbssVuhwhqHM&e=__;!!PvBDto6Hs4WbVuu7!eilkxLFTGqgTOwu7vR0R-AIvPUW_YKUE-LpaNcpOke9NedgA3IjcHcR9dKusf7wJpAc$> andhttps://ecco.jpl.nasa.gov/drive/files/Version4/Release4/other/adjustments/xx_diffkr.dim.0000000129.data<https://urldefense.us/v3/__https:/urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__urldefense.us_v3_-5F-5Fhttps-3A_urldefense.proofpoint.com_v2_url-3Fu-3Dhttps-2D3A-5F-5Fecco.jpl.nasa.gov-5Fdrive-5Ffiles-5FVersion4-5FRelease4-5Fother-5Fadjustments-5Fxx-2D5Fdiffkr.dim.0000000129.data-26d-3DDwMGaQ-26c-3D-2D35OiAkTchMrZOngvJPOeA-26r-3DYvEcUc3iPS8v6LXnkXPI-2Dw-26m-3D6Ilpubv4qn3OD41-2D8yhyk6uu5j1XJQRLMfnf7OSEpRQ-26s-3DPoZK-2D6xokNwmLvGaaEYxY1OlakgA-5F2PpUzEKmntKQwA-26e-3D-5F-5F-3B-21-21PvBDto6Hs4WbVuu7-21fsxdH6il0cs8gPy2j4KkEKbm6gA3GeQz5DpxJVmVJfeEihLVQgSFhGROuiWeP4JWXwo-24&d=DwMGaQ&c=-35OiAkTchMrZOngvJPOeA&r=YvEcUc3iPS8v6LXnkXPI-w&m=nOXKAklfyFn2aPSp4BhLVNBbAX4GgIAPKqUe1AKm844&s=1lMexvYgqKN4-IVJrpf0Pcxr2_MA8yCJ99FWuASkkk4&e=__;!!PvBDto6Hs4WbVuu7!eilkxLFTGqgTOwu7vR0R-AIvPUW_YKUE-LpaNcpOke9NedgA3IjcHcR9dKusEGWkP2A$>.
The description about total_kapredi_r009bit11.bin in the ECCOv4 Python tutorial is incorrect and will be corrected. The field in total_kapredi_r009bit11.bin is the Redi parameter from Release 1, not the adjusted Redi parameter from Release 4.
Ou
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Subject: [EXTERNAL] [ecco-support] How to get the total diffusivity in ECCOv4
Hi all:
I’m trying to figure out what the vertical diffusivity field in ECCOv4r4 is, but I’m a little confused about which input file actually contains this data.
The ECCOv4 python tutorial (at https://ecco-v4-python-tutorial.readthedocs.io/ECCO_v4_Loading_LLC_compact_binary_files.html#Example-3:-Load-a-3D-'compact'-llc-binary-file-with-3rd-dimension-=-Depth<https://urldefense.us/v3/__https:/urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__urldefense.us_v3_-5F-5Fhttps-3A_urldefense.proofpoint.com_v2_url-3Fu-3Dhttps-2D3A-5F-5Furldefense.us-5Fv3-5F-2D5F-2D5Fhttps-2D3A-5Fecco-2D2Dv4-2D2Dpython-2D2Dtutorial.readthedocs.io-5FECCO-2D5Fv4-2D5FLoading-2D5FLLC-2D5Fcompact-2D5Fbinary-2D5Ffiles.html-2D2AExample-2D2D3-2D3A-2D2DLoad-2D2Da-2D2D3D-2D2D-2D27compact-2D27-2D2Dllc-2D2Dbinary-2D2Dfile-2D2Dwith-2D2D3rd-2D2Ddimension-2D2D-2D3D-2D2DDepth-2D5F-2D5F-2D3BIw-2D21-2D21PvBDto6Hs4WbVuu7-2D21eGOlWbFIVdKaXoIQQEcSSqRPb2UW2kabBqJXw8Hdg5AizGFceCu2pSW1rdXfRM0vvIA-2D24-26d-3DDwMGaQ-26c-3D-2D35OiAkTchMrZOngvJPOeA-26r-3DYvEcUc3iPS8v6LXnkXPI-2Dw-26m-3D6Ilpubv4qn3OD41-2D8yhyk6uu5j1XJQRLMfnf7OSEpRQ-26s-3DfxELJ2y1vojHpoBCo-2DjcZf5rct4ipSYukwbcHp3nRWM-26e-3D-5F-5F-3B-21-21PvBDto6Hs4WbVuu7-21fsxdH6il0cs8gPy2j4KkEKbm6gA3GeQz5DpxJVmVJfeEihLVQgSFhGROuiWeUNE8dwE-24&d=DwMGaQ&c=-35OiAkTchMrZOngvJPOeA&r=YvEcUc3iPS8v6LXnkXPI-w&m=nOXKAklfyFn2aPSp4BhLVNBbAX4GgIAPKqUe1AKm844&s=RtsO3VGkFw2WuVEPtijcq2yQD6gDsbMMgWlK5GuJVvQ&e=__;!!PvBDto6Hs4WbVuu7!eilkxLFTGqgTOwu7vR0R-AIvPUW_YKUE-LpaNcpOke9NedgA3IjcHcR9dKus-1J5ncU$>) says that total_kapredi_r009bit11.bin is the "adjusted GM redi parameter (first guess + adjustments)”, which implies that total_diffkr_r009bit11.bin should be the adjusted diffusivity.
On the other hand, the README at https://ecco.jpl.nasa.gov/drive/files/Version4/Release4/input_init/README<https://urldefense.us/v3/__https:/urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__urldefense.us_v3_-5F-5Fhttps-3A_urldefense.proofpoint.com_v2_url-3Fu-3Dhttps-2D3A-5F-5Fecco.jpl.nasa.gov-5Fdrive-5Ffiles-5FVersion4-5FRelease4-5Finput-2D5Finit-5FREADME-26d-3DDwMGaQ-26c-3D-2D35OiAkTchMrZOngvJPOeA-26r-3DYvEcUc3iPS8v6LXnkXPI-2Dw-26m-3D6Ilpubv4qn3OD41-2D8yhyk6uu5j1XJQRLMfnf7OSEpRQ-26s-3DY5km8rLOIAScTdlOx-2DH4gujN5dag4QnliKlbo22oRnY-26e-3D-5F-5F-3B-21-21PvBDto6Hs4WbVuu7-21fsxdH6il0cs8gPy2j4KkEKbm6gA3GeQz5DpxJVmVJfeEihLVQgSFhGROuiWeWFHJfMg-24&d=DwMGaQ&c=-35OiAkTchMrZOngvJPOeA&r=YvEcUc3iPS8v6LXnkXPI-w&m=nOXKAklfyFn2aPSp4BhLVNBbAX4GgIAPKqUe1AKm844&s=WCDQan_WewifVL3NntyAIn35yg-an_u7Z9T15H1eJVA&e=__;!!PvBDto6Hs4WbVuu7!eilkxLFTGqgTOwu7vR0R-AIvPUW_YKUE-LpaNcpOke9NedgA3IjcHcR9dKusrEkFHeA$> says that total_diffkr_r009bit11.bin is the "vert. diff. of release 1 (this field plus xx is the total)”, which means that I should add xx_diffkr.0000000129.data to this to get the full diffusivity. However, the values in this file are order 1, so adding it to total_diffkr_r009bit11 would produce diffusivities far outside the expected range.
The gencost documentation of the ctrl package (https://mitgcm.readthedocs.io/en/latest/ocean_state_est/ocean_state_est.html#ctrl-model-parameter-adjustment-capability<https://urldefense.us/v3/__https:/urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__urldefense.us_v3_-5F-5Fhttps-3A_urldefense.proofpoint.com_v2_url-3Fu-3Dhttps-2D3A-5F-5Furldefense.us-5Fv3-5F-2D5F-2D5Fhttps-2D3A-5Fmitgcm.readthedocs.io-5Fen-5Flatest-5Focean-2D5Fstate-2D5Fest-5Focean-2D5Fstate-2D5Fest.html-2D2Actrl-2D2Dmodel-2D2Dparameter-2D2Dadjustment-2D2Dcapability-2D5F-2D5F-2D3BIw-2D21-2D21PvBDto6Hs4WbVuu7-2D21eGOlWbFIVdKaXoIQQEcSSqRPb2UW2kabBqJXw8Hdg5AizGFceCu2pSW1rdXfrjEs71w-2D24-26d-3DDwMGaQ-26c-3D-2D35OiAkTchMrZOngvJPOeA-26r-3DYvEcUc3iPS8v6LXnkXPI-2Dw-26m-3D6Ilpubv4qn3OD41-2D8yhyk6uu5j1XJQRLMfnf7OSEpRQ-26s-3DLhszeqkXgaIfNrgQxtvATYOLrdq9U9ivph736gNqDmA-26e-3D-5F-5F-3B-21-21PvBDto6Hs4WbVuu7-21fsxdH6il0cs8gPy2j4KkEKbm6gA3GeQz5DpxJVmVJfeEihLVQgSFhGROuiWe-5F2HTmR0-24&d=DwMGaQ&c=-35OiAkTchMrZOngvJPOeA&r=YvEcUc3iPS8v6LXnkXPI-w&m=nOXKAklfyFn2aPSp4BhLVNBbAX4GgIAPKqUe1AKm844&s=AZw5KDok4BNpRppFtNNp39kD6-BwBvCZdadPGrGWrz8&e=__;!!PvBDto6Hs4WbVuu7!eilkxLFTGqgTOwu7vR0R-AIvPUW_YKUE-LpaNcpOke9NedgA3IjcHcR9dKuspiL4ENI$>) says that the xx adjustments are non-dimensional and need to be scaled by one over the square root of the weights, which are in r2.wdiffkrFldv2.data. Using this produces adjustments on the order of 1e-6 to 1e-5, which seems about right. However, the data.ctrl namelist also specifies WC01 smoothing and some thresholding. Do these need to be applied as well?
Is the best way to get this data simply to run the model for a bit and have it dump diffkr? It would be convenient to be able to calculate these quantities without having to run the model, however.
Thanks in advance for your advise,
Christopher
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