[Dspace-general] Shutting down this list?

Mon Nov 27 12:51:44 EST 2006

As a pseudo-technical library director, I too appreciate the list and  
even appreciate the technical aspects as an alert to what folks are  
concerned about. I get the daily digest and one mail message is  
do'able and desirable.

Paul

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Today's Topics:

    1. Re: Image libraries (Scott Yeadon)
    2. Re: Image libraries (Mark Diggory)
    3. Do we want to shut down this list? (Mark Diggory)
    4. Re: Do we want to shut down this list? (MacKenzie Smith)
    5. Re: Do we want to shut down this list? (Peter Morgan)

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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2006 08:58:30 +1100
From: Scott Yeadon <scott.yeadon at anu.edu.au>
Subject: Re: [Dspace-general] Image libraries
To: dspace-general at mit.edu
Cc: r.davis at ulcc.ac.uk
Message-ID: <456A0E06.9010002 at anu.edu.au>
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Hi Richard,

Fez over Fedora can do thumbnail/web preview (see
http://espace.library.uq.edu.au/documentation/templates/frameset.html,
download from http://sourceforge.net/projects/fez)

Not sure what ePrints offers, but an example can be found at:
http://serpent.eprints.org/ so you could contact the repository
developers to see how "out-of-the-box" this functionality is.

Manakin (see http://di.tamu.edu/projects/xmlui/manakin/) can be used
with DSpace to show thumbs and previews and in addition is fully
flexible in termas of page design if you know, or have access to someone
who can write, XSL transforms.

Scott.

> Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2006 14:56:34 +0000
> From: Richard Davis <r.davis at ulcc.ac.uk>
> Subject: [Dspace-general] Image libraries
> To: dspace-general at mit.edu, SHERPA-PROJECT at JISCMAIL.AC.UK,
> 	sherpa-leap at ucl.ac.uk
> Message-ID: <45670822.6070301 at ulcc.ac.uk>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
>
> Hi all	
>
> Not a new one, I know, but does anyone know of any promising image
> library projects, with nice thumbnaily, touchy-feely, even Flickr-y
> frontends, sitting over an IR (Dspace, Eprints, Fedora, etc) backend?
>
> All links and thoughts gratefully received.
>
> Apologies to whoever gets this more than once.
>
> Thanks
>
> Richard
>
>
>
>

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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2006 18:28:07 -0500
From: Mark Diggory <mdiggory at MIT.EDU>
Subject: Re: [Dspace-general] Image libraries
To: Scott Yeadon <scott.yeadon at anu.edu.au>
Cc: r.davis at ulcc.ac.uk, dspace-general at mit.edu
Message-ID: <9CAA6157-BFAF-4BCE-B339-DC5EA1847FF3 at mit.edu>
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You don't necessarily need Manakin to get DSpace to show thumbs in
search results, its configurable out of the box. But I think what
they are looking for is an AJAX/GWT sort of look and feel in any of
these applications. I'm not sure that any support that. Are there any
customizations on Manakin or DSpace out there that work with AJAX? I
think the really interesting ones will arise out of the Facetted
Browse work of Simile/Dwell...

-Mark

On Nov 26, 2006, at 4:58 PM, Scott Yeadon wrote:

> Hi Richard,
>
> Fez over Fedora can do thumbnail/web preview (see
> http://espace.library.uq.edu.au/documentation/templates/frameset.html,
> download from http://sourceforge.net/projects/fez)
>
> Not sure what ePrints offers, but an example can be found at:
> http://serpent.eprints.org/ so you could contact the repository
> developers to see how "out-of-the-box" this functionality is.
>
> Manakin (see http://di.tamu.edu/projects/xmlui/manakin/) can be used
> with DSpace to show thumbs and previews and in addition is fully
> flexible in termas of page design if you know, or have access to
> someone
> who can write, XSL transforms.
>
> Scott.
>
>> Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2006 14:56:34 +0000
>> From: Richard Davis <r.davis at ulcc.ac.uk>
>> Subject: [Dspace-general] Image libraries
>> To: dspace-general at mit.edu, SHERPA-PROJECT at JISCMAIL.AC.UK,
>> 	sherpa-leap at ucl.ac.uk
>> Message-ID: <45670822.6070301 at ulcc.ac.uk>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
>>
>> Hi all	
>>
>> Not a new one, I know, but does anyone know of any promising image
>> library projects, with nice thumbnaily, touchy-feely, even Flickr-y
>> frontends, sitting over an IR (Dspace, Eprints, Fedora, etc) backend?
>>
>> All links and thoughts gratefully received.
>>
>> Apologies to whoever gets this more than once.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Richard
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
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MIT Libraries, Systems and Technology Services
Massachusetts Institute of Technology

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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2006 18:43:15 -0500
From: Mark Diggory <mdiggory at MIT.EDU>
Subject: [Dspace-general] Do we want to shut down this list?
To: dspace-general at MIT.EDU
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Hello,

We really should consider routing all traffic from this list to
dspace-tech and shutting it down. All current discussions about
DSpace should probibly be centralized under the same archiving/
mailman service that resides under the umbrella of the new
Organization. This probably would more appropriately be the
Sourceforge mail list system. This list could be easily merged into
dspace-tech without impacting much as neither lists have heavy activity.

-Mark

Mark R. Diggory
~~~~~~~~~~~~~
DSpace Systems Manager
MIT Libraries, Systems and Technology Services
Massachusetts Institute of Technology

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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2006 18:56:48 -0500
From: MacKenzie Smith <kenzie at MIT.EDU>
Subject: Re: [Dspace-general] Do we want to shut down this list?
To: Mark Diggory <mdiggory at MIT.EDU>
Cc: dspace-general at mit.edu
Message-ID: <456A29C0.2040302 at mit.edu>
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Hi Mark,

It's true that folks often mistake dspace-general for a technical
discussion list and
have to be re-routed, but the purpose of dspace-general hasn't changed,
nor is it
superceded by the other listsl. It was created to discuss "non-technical
aspects
of building and running a DSpace service" such as governance, policies,
marketing,
new features, relevant regulations or laws, and so on. MIT and other
institutions
rely on it as a forum for general announcements about the platform and
its uses.

FYI, dspace-general has 946 subscribers while dspace-tech has 818,  
and they
don't overlap that much. I think we need to keep dspace-general for now,
and
live with the fact that a lot of the traffic should have gone to
dspace-tech...
if it gets too annoying to the subscribers I'm sure they'll let us  
know :)

MacKenzie

> Hello,
>
> We really should consider routing all traffic from this list to
> dspace-tech and shutting it down. All current discussions about
> DSpace should probibly be centralized under the same archiving/
> mailman service that resides under the umbrella of the new
> Organization. This probably would more appropriately be the
> Sourceforge mail list system. This list could be easily merged into
> dspace-tech without impacting much as neither lists have heavy  
> activity.
>
> -Mark
>
> Mark R. Diggory
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> DSpace Systems Manager
> MIT Libraries, Systems and Technology Services
> Massachusetts Institute of Technology

-- 
MacKenzie Smith
MIT Libraries

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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2006 07:46:10 -0000
From: "Peter Morgan" <pbm2 at cam.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: [Dspace-general] Do we want to shut down this list?
To: "Mark Diggory" <mdiggory at mit.edu>, <dspace-general at mit.edu>
Message-ID:
	<E2D19A5C4EF4C14FB2B012DB6EEBC36318A90D at me-mail1.medlan.cam.ac.uk>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

Hi Mark,

I entirely support MacKenzie on this.  There are many subscribers to  
dspace-general (myself included) whose interest is in the less  
technical aspects of DSpace's use and development.  I also scan  
dspace-tech - and dspace-devel - to improve my awareness of what's  
going on, but the stuff that's really relevant to me is almost  
invariably in dspace-general.  Merging two strands in a single list  
would, I suspect, annoy more people than it would help.

Perhaps an occasional (quarterly?) reminder to each list from the  
listowner reiterating its role would be helpful in channelling  
messages to the correct list.

Peter

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-----Original Message-----
From: dspace-general-bounces at mit.edu on behalf of MacKenzie Smith
Sent: Sun 11/26/2006 11:56 PM
To: Mark Diggory
Cc: dspace-general at mit.edu
Subject: Re: [Dspace-general] Do we want to shut down this list?

Hi Mark,

It's true that folks often mistake dspace-general for a technical
discussion list and
have to be re-routed, but the purpose of dspace-general hasn't changed,
nor is it
superceded by the other listsl. It was created to discuss "non-technical
aspects
of building and running a DSpace service" such as governance, policies,
marketing,
new features, relevant regulations or laws, and so on. MIT and other
institutions
rely on it as a forum for general announcements about the platform and
its uses.

FYI, dspace-general has 946 subscribers while dspace-tech has 818,  
and they
don't overlap that much. I think we need to keep dspace-general for now,
and
live with the fact that a lot of the traffic should have gone to
dspace-tech...
if it gets too annoying to the subscribers I'm sure they'll let us  
know :)

MacKenzie

> Hello,
>
> We really should consider routing all traffic from this list to
> dspace-tech and shutting it down. All current discussions about
> DSpace should probibly be centralized under the same archiving/
> mailman service that resides under the umbrella of the new
> Organization. This probably would more appropriately be the
> Sourceforge mail list system. This list could be easily merged into
> dspace-tech without impacting much as neither lists have heavy  
> activity.
>
> -Mark
>
> Mark R. Diggory
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> DSpace Systems Manager
> MIT Libraries, Systems and Technology Services
> Massachusetts Institute of Technology

-- 
MacKenzie Smith
MIT Libraries

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