[Dspace-general] Google Scholar & DSpace Google

Richard Jones r.d.jones at ed.ac.uk
Fri Jan 14 04:13:45 EST 2005


Hi,

We were not directly involved in the Google Pilot, but I was
peripherally aware that one of the issues that might be addressed is
that of ensuring the persistent identifier for trawled items be the URL
exposed via the Google search results, and not the local, potentially
unstable, URL.  That is, links in Google search results are
http://hdl.handle.net/12345/6789 not
http://www.myir.ac.uk/handle/12345/6789.  Was this requirement/desire
dropped from the spec or will Google Scholar address this issue?

Cheers,

Richard
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: dspace-general-bounces at MIT.EDU 
> [mailto:dspace-general-bounces at MIT.EDU] On Behalf Of Ann Lally
> Sent: 13 January 2005 20:57
> To: 'MacKenzie Smith'; dspace-google-pilot at MIT.EDU; 
> dspace-general at MIT.EDU
> Subject: RE: [Dspace-general] Google Scholar & DSpace Google
> 
> 
> I can't think of any compelling reason to continue the pilot.
> 
> Ann
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: MacKenzie Smith [mailto:kenzie at MIT.EDU] 
> Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2005 9:29 AM
> To: Martin Courtois; dspace-google-pilot at MIT.EDU; 
> dspace-general at MIT.EDU
> Subject: Re: [Dspace-general] Google Scholar & DSpace Google
> 
> 
> >Is the plan that only Google Scholar will contain content 
> from DSpace 
> >sites or will DSpace content also be available by searching 
> "regular" 
> >Google?
> 
> To the best of my knowledge, Google.com ("big google") will 
> continue to 
> harvest the entire web, including all the DSpace sites (both 
> metadata and 
> content).
> Google Scholar will harvest all the DSpace repositories that 
> they know 
> about, but they currently aren't indexing the metadata, just 
> the content. So both.
> 
> >I don't know much about DSpace Google, but it sounds like 
> the idea was 
> >for Google to take steps _not_ to crawl DSpace sites other 
> than the 17 
> >participating institutions?
> 
> It was a pilot project to harvest sites that opted in -- 17 
> of the possible 
> 70 or so.
> We do have the option of asking them to continue the pilot 
> with a larger 
> set of DSpace repositories included.
> But unlike google.com or Google Scholar you do need to *opt 
> in*. The DSpace Google thing was a search restrictor in 
> google.com that would 
> limit results to content from the
> 17 pilot participants.
> 
> Hope that's a bit clearer.
> 
> MacKenzie
> 
> 
> 
> MacKenzie Smith
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