From j.ferguson at abdn.ac.uk Fri Dec 2 05:23:48 2005 From: j.ferguson at abdn.ac.uk (Jon Ferguson) Date: Fri, 02 Dec 2005 10:23:48 +0000 Subject: [Dspace-general] Re: Dspace-general Digest, Vol 29, Issue 1 In-Reply-To: <200512011701.jB1H1Tq3028552@pch.mit.edu> Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.0.20051202100743.02eee988@mailms.abdn.ac.uk> Hi Bryce, We had a good discussion about this at the User group's meeting in Cambridge. At that time it just looked like implementation was a 'bridge too far' for the time being. I have noticed that there has been some significant work done lately on Group management (it's in CVS but not yet in a standard release at last look). I don't know if there's been more discussion since regarding roles/groups. Cheers, Jon At 12:01 01/12/2005 -0500, you wrote: >Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 11:21:59 -0600 >From: bryce benton >To: dspace-general at mit.edu >Subject: [Dspace-general] Decentralized authorization? >Message-ID: >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit >Precedence: list >Message: 1 > >How does the latest version or the current development version of >DSpace deal with decentralized authorizations? > >We found a discussion* on this topic, but it is not clear how these >matters were resolved. If anyone has some pointers or other insights, >we'd appreciate it very much. > >--Bryce Benton >University of North Texas >School of Library and Information Sciences > >References: >* http://wiki.dspace.org/AuthorisationSystem >* >http://www.student.kuleuven.ac.be/~m9917697/dspace/decentralizedAdministration/decentralizedAdministration.html ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dr. Jon Ferguson Senior Health Database Scientist IMMPACT, Dugald Baird Centre for Research on Women's Health University of Aberdeen Foresterhill Lea, Westburn Rd, Aberdeen, UK +44 (0)1224 551850 j.ferguson at abdn.ac.uk www.abdn.ac.uk/immpact From bollini at cilea.it Fri Dec 2 10:08:45 2005 From: bollini at cilea.it (Andrea Bollini) Date: Fri, 02 Dec 2005 16:08:45 +0100 Subject: [Dspace-general] Decentralized authorization? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6.2.0.14.0.20051202154924.01d7ce68@mail.cilea.it> Hi, I have written a patch, available on sourceforge.net (https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=319984&aid=1237589&group_id=19984) and applicable to dspace 1.2.2, that makes available a role of community admin. I'm working to port and re-engineer it to the latest dspace developments (for more details see: http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/message.php?msg_id=13873919) I hope I will be able to submit the new patch within next week. Best regards, Andrea At 18.21 30/11/2005, bryce benton wrote: >How does the latest version or the current development version of >DSpace deal with decentralized authorizations? > >We found a discussion* on this topic, but it is not clear how these >matters were resolved. If anyone has some pointers or other insights, >we'd appreciate it very much. > >--Bryce Benton >University of North Texas >School of Library and Information Sciences > >References: >* http://wiki.dspace.org/AuthorisationSystem >* >http://www.student.kuleuven.ac.be/~m9917697/dspace/decentralizedAdministration/decentralizedAdministration.html > >_______________________________________________ >Dspace-general mailing list >Dspace-general at mit.edu >http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/dspace-general ************************************************************* Dott. Andrea Bollini Software Development AePIC - http://www.aepic.it (Academic e-Publishing Infrastructures) CILEA - Consorzio Interuniversitario per l'ICT Via R. Sanzio 4, I-20090 SEGRATE MI tel. +39 02 2699 5386 ************************************************************* From fabiobatalha at uol.com.br Mon Dec 5 08:35:31 2005 From: fabiobatalha at uol.com.br (Fabio Batalha) Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2005 11:35:31 -0200 Subject: [Dspace-general] admin area Message-ID: <001401c5f9a0$cbf2ae90$5902bc0a@firfabio> Hi, I did the instalation of the dspace, I would like to know if exist any graphic interface for the admin tasks. I didn?t found any documentation related about the management of the dspace. Tks. Fabio Batalha -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.mit.edu/pipermail/dspace-general/attachments/20051205/81693908/attachment.htm From gabriela.mircea at utoronto.ca Mon Dec 5 09:32:11 2005 From: gabriela.mircea at utoronto.ca (Gabriela Mircea) Date: Mon, 05 Dec 2005 09:32:11 -0500 Subject: [Dspace-general] admin area In-Reply-To: <001401c5f9a0$cbf2ae90$5902bc0a@firfabio> References: <001401c5f9a0$cbf2ae90$5902bc0a@firfabio> Message-ID: <43944F6B.5000009@utoronto.ca> Hi Fabio, The admin interface is at [your server's URL]/dspace-admin, for example http://yourdomain.com:8080/dspace/dspace-admin. It is mentioned in the documentation at the end of the "Quick Installation Steps" http://dspace.org/technology/system-docs/install.html#installsteps. You can also find information on how to administer DSpace at [your server's URL]/help/site-admin.html, or in the Help section of the admin interface, or by accessing the Admin Help link from any community/collection home page, after you log in as an administrator. I hope this helps, Gabriela Fabio Batalha wrote: >Hi, > >I did the instalation of the dspace, I would like to know if exist any graphic interface for the admin tasks. >I didn?t found any documentation related about the management of the dspace. > >Tks. >Fabio Batalha > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >_______________________________________________ >Dspace-general mailing list >Dspace-general at mit.edu >http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/dspace-general > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.mit.edu/pipermail/dspace-general/attachments/20051205/6d452980/attachment.htm From bollini at cilea.it Mon Dec 5 10:26:15 2005 From: bollini at cilea.it (Andrea Bollini) Date: Mon, 05 Dec 2005 16:26:15 +0100 Subject: [Dspace-general] Delegate Admins & authorization system Message-ID: <6.2.5.6.0.20051205162542.020b31a8@cilea.it> Hi, I'm pleased to announce the release of a patch that modifies the authorization mechanism of DSpace. It introduces a useful implicit rule for permissions and also a simple realization of a community admin role. The patch is for today's CVS Head (2005-12-05 11:00 GMT). This patch makes a new Action available for any DSpace object: bitstream, bundle, item, collection, community, group. The Action ADMIN allows any user to perform any other action on the DSpace object and to set policies on the object. AuthorizeManager now checks permission to perform an ADMIN action on DSpace object target when anyone tries to set/create/remove a policy (this is more appropriate than check for it with a "filter" on webUI). A new implicit autorization mechanism is introduced by the AuthorizeManager.isAdmin(Context,DSpaceObject) method called by AuthorizeManager.authorize(). This mechanism throws the authorization check on the "container" of the DSpace object. The containers defined are: - community: the parent community - collection: the parent community - item: the owner collection or the related collection if the item is a "template" - bundle: the item where the bundle resides - bitstream: the bundle where the bitstream resides or, if the bitstream is not inside any bundle, e.g. is a logo, the related collection or community - group: if the group is a workflow, submitter or admin group the related collection (or community for the admin group) The implicit rule is performed on any "container" object (e.g. bitstream - bundle - item - collection - subcommunity - ........ - community - system) until a permission is found or denied. The COLLECTION_ADMIN action is now replaced by ADMIN action on the collection. For backwards compatibility, when new content (subcommunity or collection) is created in a community, by a user with only ADD permission, the Community.createSubCommunity() and Community.createCollection() methods automatically create the admin group for this new content and insert the current user in it. WRITE permission on a community or collection now does not allow the user to edit the related groups but only to set the metadata. This is more refined than before, because if needed, the system admin can authorize the user to edit the group by creating a specific policy (ADD/WRITE or ADMIN permission) - webUI authorize system needs to be extended. We have tested the patch for creation of new community, collection, submission, workflow and any other situation that we have thought of, but if anyone discovers any bugs please send me an email and I will be happy of working on it for allowing the inclusion of the patch in the DSpace core. Best regards, Andrea From fabiobatalha at uol.com.br Mon Dec 5 11:23:11 2005 From: fabiobatalha at uol.com.br (Fabio Batalha) Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2005 14:23:11 -0200 Subject: [Dspace-general] admin area References: <001401c5f9a0$cbf2ae90$5902bc0a@firfabio> <43944F6B.5000009@utoronto.ca> Message-ID: <005401c5f9b8$30d066b0$5902bc0a@firfabio> Thanks, its work well!! Now I have another doubt! After install the DSpace it creates a default admin user to log at the admin area by the first time? or I need to creat this user in the database? tks, Fabio ----- Original Message ----- From: Gabriela Mircea To: Fabio Batalha Cc: dspace-general at mit.edu Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 12:32 PM Subject: Re: [Dspace-general] admin area Hi Fabio, The admin interface is at [your server's URL]/dspace-admin, for example http://yourdomain.com:8080/dspace/dspace-admin. It is mentioned in the documentation at the end of the "Quick Installation Steps" http://dspace.org/technology/system-docs/install.html#installsteps. You can also find information on how to administer DSpace at [your server's URL]/help/site-admin.html, or in the Help section of the admin interface, or by accessing the Admin Help link from any community/collection home page, after you log in as an administrator. I hope this helps, Gabriela Fabio Batalha wrote: Hi, I did the instalation of the dspace, I would like to know if exist any graphic interface for the admin tasks. I didn?t found any documentation related about the management of the dspace. Tks. Fabio Batalha ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ Dspace-general mailing list Dspace-general at mit.edu http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/dspace-general -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.mit.edu/pipermail/dspace-general/attachments/20051205/75b3f612/attachment.htm From fabiobatalha at uol.com.br Mon Dec 5 12:14:54 2005 From: fabiobatalha at uol.com.br (Fabio Batalha) Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2005 15:14:54 -0200 Subject: [Dspace-general] Delegate Admins & authorization system References: <6.2.5.6.0.20051205162542.020b31a8@cilea.it> Message-ID: <000d01c5f9bf$6da3faa0$5902bc0a@firfabio> Ok, I found the script that creates the first admin user, but I'm getting this error when I execute the create-administrator Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: org.dspace.administer.CreateAdministrator at gnu.java.lang.MainThread.run() (/usr/lib/libgcj.so.6.0.0) Caused by: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: org.dspace.administer.CreateAdministrator not found in gnu.gcj.runtime.SystemClassLoader{.... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrea Bollini" To: Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 1:26 PM Subject: [Dspace-general] Delegate Admins & authorization system > Hi, > I'm pleased to announce the release of a patch that modifies the > authorization mechanism of DSpace. It introduces a useful implicit > rule for permissions and also a simple realization of a community admin role. > The patch is for today's CVS Head (2005-12-05 11:00 GMT). > > This patch makes a new Action available for any DSpace object: > bitstream, bundle, item, collection, community, group. > The Action ADMIN allows any user to perform any other action on the > DSpace object and to set policies on the object. > AuthorizeManager now checks permission to perform an ADMIN action on > DSpace object target when anyone tries to set/create/remove a policy > (this is more appropriate than check for it with a "filter" on webUI). > A new implicit autorization mechanism is introduced by the > AuthorizeManager.isAdmin(Context,DSpaceObject) method called by > AuthorizeManager.authorize(). > > This mechanism throws the authorization check on the "container" of > the DSpace object. > The containers defined are: > - community: the parent community > - collection: the parent community > - item: the owner collection or the related collection if the item is > a "template" > - bundle: the item where the bundle resides > - bitstream: the bundle where the bitstream resides or, if the > bitstream is not inside any bundle, e.g. is a logo, the related > collection or community > - group: if the group is a workflow, submitter or admin group the > related collection (or community for the admin group) > The implicit rule is performed on any "container" object (e.g. > bitstream - bundle - item - collection - subcommunity - ........ - > community - system) until a permission is found or denied. > The COLLECTION_ADMIN action is now replaced by ADMIN action on the collection. > > For backwards compatibility, when new content (subcommunity or > collection) is created in a community, by a user with only ADD > permission, the Community.createSubCommunity() and > Community.createCollection() methods automatically create the admin > group for this new content and insert the current user in it. > > WRITE permission on a community or collection now does not allow the > user to edit the related groups but only to set the metadata. This is > more refined than before, because if needed, the system admin can > authorize the user to edit the group by creating a specific policy > (ADD/WRITE or ADMIN permission) - webUI authorize system needs to be extended. > > We have tested the patch for creation of new community, collection, > submission, workflow and any other situation that we have thought of, > but if anyone discovers any bugs please send me an email and I will > be happy of working on it for allowing the inclusion of the patch in > the DSpace core. > > Best regards, > Andrea > > _______________________________________________ > Dspace-general mailing list > Dspace-general at mit.edu > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/dspace-general From gabriela.mircea at utoronto.ca Mon Dec 5 12:20:02 2005 From: gabriela.mircea at utoronto.ca (Gabriela Mircea) Date: Mon, 05 Dec 2005 12:20:02 -0500 Subject: [Dspace-general] admin area In-Reply-To: <005401c5f9b8$30d066b0$5902bc0a@firfabio> References: <001401c5f9a0$cbf2ae90$5902bc0a@firfabio> <43944F6B.5000009@utoronto.ca> <005401c5f9b8$30d066b0$5902bc0a@firfabio> Message-ID: <439476C2.6070307@utoronto.ca> Fabio, You can create admin accounts by running the command [dspace]/bin/create-administrator where [dspace] is the folder where you installed dspace, as it is showed in the "Quick Installation Steps" section of the documentation. Can you send the technical questions about dspace to dspace-tech list at dspace-tech at lists.sourceforge.net from now on? The dspace-general mailing list is more for non-technical aspects of DSpace. Gabriela Fabio Batalha wrote: >Thanks, its work well!! > >Now I have another doubt! > >After install the DSpace it creates a default admin user to log at the admin area by the first time? > >or I need to creat this user in the database? > >tks, >Fabio > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Gabriela Mircea > To: Fabio Batalha > Cc: dspace-general at mit.edu > Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 12:32 PM > Subject: Re: [Dspace-general] admin area > > > Hi Fabio, > > The admin interface is at [your server's URL]/dspace-admin, for example http://yourdomain.com:8080/dspace/dspace-admin. > It is mentioned in the documentation at the end of the "Quick Installation Steps" http://dspace.org/technology/system-docs/install.html#installsteps. > You can also find information on how to administer DSpace at [your server's URL]/help/site-admin.html, or in the Help section of the admin interface, or by accessing the Admin Help link from any community/collection home page, after you log in as an administrator. > > I hope this helps, > Gabriela > > Fabio Batalha wrote: > >Hi, > >I did the instalation of the dspace, I would like to know if exist any graphic interface for the admin tasks. >I didn?t found any documentation related about the management of the dspace. > >Tks. >Fabio Batalha > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >_______________________________________________ >Dspace-general mailing list >Dspace-general at mit.edu >http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/dspace-general > > > > -- Gabriela Mircea Digital Image/Text Application Administrator University of Toronto Libraries Information Technology Services 7th floor, Robarts Library 130 St. George St. Toronto, ON, Canada, M5S 1A5 416 946 0114 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.mit.edu/pipermail/dspace-general/attachments/20051205/1c4ebaea/attachment.htm From momcneal at nps.edu Mon Dec 5 12:46:11 2005 From: momcneal at nps.edu (McNealy, Marion USA Contractor MPSC) Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2005 09:46:11 -0800 Subject: [Dspace-general] Best practices for Digital Libraries Message-ID: <0EA04F194383184999EF824ABD46F1A201412BA2@grasp.ad.nps.navy.mil> The Homeland Security Digital Library (www.hsdl.org) is engaged in a Best Practices study for Digital Libraries. Our goal is to get a picture of the types of IT systems and workflows used to support the collection development processes for various file formats. We would appreciate your participation in this study. In exchange for your response to this brief, questionnaire; we will share the results we receive back for questions 1- 6. If you would not like us to mention your name or the name of your organization in the results of our study, please let us know and we will exclude that information. 1. How do you describe your digital collection? A digital library, database, portal, other? 2. Who or what is your target user population? 3. What types of file formats comprise your collection? What is the percentage of PDF documents in your collection? 4. How do you find and collect your content? Is your collection comprised mostly of internally created documents or objects, found via web searches, contributed by other organizations, acquired from commercial or proprietary sources or harvested using another mechanism? 5. What metadata schema do you use to describe digital objects in your collection? Do you use Dublin Core (DC), Metadata Encoding and Transmission Schema (METS), Metadata Objects Description Schema (MODS), or another format or schema? 6. Is your collection open for public access or is full or partial access restricted to certain users or user groups? 7. Would you be willing to be called for an interview? Please send all replies to momcneal at nps.edu Sincerely, Marion McNealy HSDL Product Development Associate "Securing the Homeland through the Power of Information" Homeland Security Digital Library Dudley Knox Library Naval Postgraduate School Tel: 831.656.2398 E-mail:momcneal at nps.edu -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.mit.edu/pipermail/dspace-general/attachments/20051205/062b70b2/attachment.htm From clement at nus.edu.sg Mon Dec 5 20:07:08 2005 From: clement at nus.edu.sg (Clement Choo) Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2005 09:07:08 +0800 Subject: [Dspace-general] Seach chinese characters Message-ID: Hi, I would like to know if dspace 1.3.2 could search both traditional and simple chinese characters? Thank you -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.mit.edu/pipermail/dspace-general/attachments/20051206/a5f7bd62/attachment.htm From robert.tansley at hp.com Thu Dec 8 17:27:29 2005 From: robert.tansley at hp.com (Tansley, Robert) Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2005 17:27:29 -0500 Subject: [Dspace-general] Seach chinese characters Message-ID: <19ADCC0B9D4CAD4582BB9900BBCE357401AA0F8D@tayexc13.americas.cpqcorp.net> I don't think 1.3.2 can search Chinese characters, but in 1.4 (due early next year) lets you plug-in support for different languages (in the form of Apache Lucene analysers). Included will be a plug-in that I believe it works with both traditional and simplified Chinese. It is a 'simple' search -- it merely matches characters, and does no parsing of Chinese words, for example. Analysers for other languages available (as source code) from: http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/lucene/java/trunk/contrib/analyzers/src/ java/org/apache/lucene/analysis/ Rob ________________________________ From: dspace-general-bounces at mit.edu [mailto:dspace-general-bounces at mit.edu] On Behalf Of Clement Choo Sent: 05 December 2005 20:07 To: dspace-general at mit.edu Subject: [Dspace-general] Seach chinese characters Hi, I would like to know if dspace 1.3.2 could search both traditional and simple chinese characters? Thank you -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.mit.edu/pipermail/dspace-general/attachments/20051208/67242f37/attachment.htm From sayeed at jhu.edu Sat Dec 10 14:44:18 2005 From: sayeed at jhu.edu (Sayeed Choudhury) Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2005 14:44:18 -0500 Subject: [Dspace-general] Comparison of EPrints, DSpace and Fedora (fwd) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: ** Apologies for receipt of duplicate postings ** Arthur, I have noted your message on more than one list, so I've taken the liberty of copying each of them to inform individuals who follow those lists. Regarding a comparison of repository software, our group at Johns Hopkins is conducting a technology-based analysis of repositories and applications with funding from the Mellon Foundation. Our choices include DSpace, Fedora, ePrints, Digital Commons (ProQuest's offering based on BePress), and applications include Sakai, and various e-publishing systems such as Open Journal Systems (OJS), and DiVA. We are working with the DPubS team to include their software as well, and we're also considering if we can include Moodle and LionShare as well. Finally, we have a strong emphasis on digital preservation capabilities for the repositories. The main purpose of our analysis is to examine each of these systems with a transparent, clearly defined methodology beginning with stories or scenarios that are mapped into use cases and what we are calling key events, from which we are defining functional requirements for repositories to support various types of content and uses. In addition to the repositories and applications, we are examining whether JSR-170, OKI DR OSIDs and perhaps an implementation of IMS DRI can support integration of repositories and applications through a generalized interface layer that spans across different services without specific out of band agreements. While we haven't included costs information, we have tracked installation issues, features, and other technology matters. Ultimately, we hope to develop a methodology that might allow the community to address the types of question you describe with an objective, rigorous approach, and a taxonomy of repositories that will allow us to identify gaps in functionality. Our project wiki is available at https://wiki.library.jhu.edu/display/ RepoAnalysis/ProjectRepository You can also find further information at http://ldp.library.jhu.edu/ projects/repository From this web page, you can find our original proposal to the Mellon Foundation and two presentations at previous CNI and DLF conferences under the "Documents" tab. I would be happy to answer any questions you (or others) might have in this regard. Sayeed Sayeed Choudhury Associate Director for Library Digital Programs Hodson Director of the Digital Knowledge Center Sheridan Libraries Johns Hopkins University sayeed at jhu.edu http://ldp.library.jhu.edu On Nov 19, 2005, at 6:53 PM, Stevan Harnad wrote: > > *Forwarding: apologies for cross-posting ** > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2005 08:27:46 +1100 > From: Arthur Sale > To: AMERICAN-SCIENTIST-OPEN-ACCESS-FORUM at LISTSERVER.SIGMAXI.ORG > Subject: Comparison of EPrints, DSpace and Fedora > > I am doing a comparison of functionality and adopter experiences > for the two > most widely used institutional archive-creating software packages for > repositories: EPrints and DSpace, and also Fedora (a minor player > globally > but possibly important in Australia). I am seeking your help in > collecting > information. Information about other packages would also be welcome. > > (1) If you have used or compared any of this software, could you > please take the time to let me know what you consider the respective > advantages/disadvantages of each to be, and for what purposes? I am > also > interested in features that you think are equivalent or readily > achieved > in each. > > (2) The two major software packages explain their orientation as > follows: EPrints puts a particular emphasis on OA content (preprints > and postprints of institutional research output, plus theses), DSpace > on digital curation in general. Fedora describes itself as repository > storage layer software requiring custom front-ends for any purpose. If > you have any specific comments on these overall orientations and > whether they are appropriate, they would be very helpful too. > > (3) While all these packages are free and open source, I would also > be interested in any cost estimates in implementing the one you chose, > how many hours or dollars you spent on setup, how much maintenance you > have to expend, and how reliable the software is (crashes, downtime, > etc). Would you recommend it to someone else? > > I will post a summary of the results (and maybe an interim report) > on AmSci > OA Forum, and may get back to you if I reed a bit more detail. > Thank you in > anticipation of a prompt response and a flood of emails. Email > direct to me > at Arthur.Sale at utas.edu.au if you want. > > Arthur Sale > Professor of Computing (Research) > University of Tasmania > http://leven.comp.utas.edu.au/AuseAccess/ > > _______________________________________________ > Dspace-general mailing list > Dspace-general at mit.edu > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/dspace-general -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.mit.edu/pipermail/dspace-general/attachments/20051210/b8f7f5c1/attachment.htm From sayeed at jhu.edu Sat Dec 10 18:59:04 2005 From: sayeed at jhu.edu (Sayeed Choudhury) Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2005 18:59:04 -0500 Subject: [Dspace-general] Comparison of EPrints, DSpace and Fedora (fwd) In-Reply-To: <4jms14$fjl5lc@ozemail-mail.icp-qv1-irony5.iinet.net.au> References: <4jms14$fjl5lc@ozemail-mail.icp-qv1-irony5.iinet.net.au> Message-ID: Arthur, I understand what you are saying, and I agree with much of it. While it's only one (and probably incomplete) method to do so, we are hoping that by gathering various scenarios from multiple institutions, we are gathering some sense of what type of functionality people require. I understand this factor may, in fact, end up not reflecting the choices that *people* make, but I hope there's some connection between what people state they need, and what software they choose accordingly. Then again, I've always believed that economists are the only ones who really believe that people make rational choices :-) It may be the case that people are simply making choices because they feel compelled to do so, and don't have a road map or guideline for making choices. Without some sort of objective and rigorous analysis, people most probably can not make informed or even consistent decisions. What we are attempting to do is not easy, and requires a fairly unique set of expertise. In other cases, people may not have the resources to conduct a more thorough review. I would hope that by identifying and delineating relative strengths and weaknesses of various systems, we might encourage developers to refrain from building the entire set of functionality within their particular software, and rather interface with other software that offers complementary functionality. Regarding the point about researchers as "searcher" as opposed to "author" I would welcome further feedback from you. Would you be willing to develop scenarios that reflect these distinct roles as you see them? I would also be eager to hear what you may have heard from others in response to your original message. Thanks. Sayeed On Dec 10, 2005, at 5:50 PM, Arthur Sale wrote: > Sayeed > > > > Thank you for this email. It was interesting to read and look at > the wiki, but I think what I am asking is completely orthogonal to > what you are doing. I am not looking to choose software, nor to > evaluate their technical features. May I say however, that you do > not distinguish between the roles of researcher as ?searcher? and > as ?author? which are two completely disjoint roils and which > demand separate attention. > > > > Rather, I am trying to find out why *people* choose the software > they do. Many choices are puzzling, and the stated reasons are > often simply absurd. When implementation costs for an IR range from > $3k to $1M, something is going on that is unexplained. Partly that > is explained by different purposes for IRs (for example for some > IRs digital preservation is a non-issue; for others it is high on > the priority list even if long-term solutions are not available). > > > > Until we resolve why people choose what they do, we are destined to > walk in the dark, especially the developers in adding features to > IR software, which already show some signs of software bloat. > > > > Arthur > > > > From: Sayeed Choudhury [mailto:sayeed at jhu.edu] > Sent: Sunday, 11 December 2005 06:44 > To: Stevan Harnad > Cc: dspace-tech at MIT.EDU; dspace-general at MIT.EDU; eprints- > tech at ecs.soton.ac.uk; Fedora-users-list; ahjs at ozemail.com.au; > diglib at infoserv.inist.fr > Subject: Re: [Dspace-general] Comparison of EPrints, DSpace and > Fedora (fwd) > > > > ** Apologies for receipt of duplicate postings ** > > > > Arthur, > > > > I have noted your message on more than one list, so I've taken the > liberty of copying each of them to inform individuals who follow > those lists. Regarding a comparison of repository software, our > group at Johns Hopkins is conducting a technology-based analysis of > repositories and applications with funding from the Mellon > Foundation. Our choices include DSpace, Fedora, ePrints, Digital > Commons (ProQuest's offering based on BePress), and applications > include Sakai, and various e-publishing systems such as Open > Journal Systems (OJS), and DiVA. We are working with the DPubS team > to include their software as well, and we're also considering if we > can include Moodle and LionShare as well. Finally, we have a strong > emphasis on digital preservation capabilities for the repositories. > The main purpose of our analysis is to examine each of these > systems with a transparent, clearly defined methodology beginning > with stories or scenarios that are mapped into use cases and what > we are calling key events, from which we are defining functional > requirements for repositories to support various types of content > and uses. In addition to the repositories and applications, we are > examining whether JSR-170, OKI DR OSIDs and perhaps an > implementation of IMS DRI can support integration of repositories > and applications through a generalized interface layer that spans > across different services without specific out of band agreements. > > > > While we haven't included costs information, we have tracked > installation issues, features, and other technology matters. > Ultimately, we hope to develop a methodology that might allow the > community to address the types of question you describe with an > objective, rigorous approach, and a taxonomy of repositories that > will allow us to identify gaps in functionality. > > > > Our project wiki is available at https://wiki.library.jhu.edu/ > display/RepoAnalysis/ProjectRepository > > > > You can also find further information at http://ldp.library.jhu.edu/ > projects/repository > > > > From this web page, you can find our original proposal to the > Mellon Foundation and two presentations at previous CNI and DLF > conferences under the "Documents" tab. > > > > I would be happy to answer any questions you (or others) might have > in this regard. > > > > Sayeed > > > > > > Sayeed Choudhury > > Associate Director for Library Digital Programs > > Hodson Director of the Digital Knowledge Center > > Sheridan Libraries > > Johns Hopkins University > > sayeed at jhu.edu > > http://ldp.library.jhu.edu > > > > > > On Nov 19, 2005, at 6:53 PM, Stevan Harnad wrote: > > > > > > > *Forwarding: apologies for cross-posting ** > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > > Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2005 08:27:46 +1100 > > From: Arthur Sale > > To: AMERICAN-SCIENTIST-OPEN-ACCESS-FORUM at LISTSERVER.SIGMAXI.ORG > > Subject: Comparison of EPrints, DSpace and Fedora > > > > I am doing a comparison of functionality and adopter experiences > for the two > > most widely used institutional archive-creating software packages for > > repositories: EPrints and DSpace, and also Fedora (a minor player > globally > > but possibly important in Australia). I am seeking your help in > collecting > > information. Information about other packages would also be welcome. > > > > (1) If you have used or compared any of this software, could you > > please take the time to let me know what you consider the respective > > advantages/disadvantages of each to be, and for what purposes? I am > also > > interested in features that you think are equivalent or readily > achieved > > in each. > > > > (2) The two major software packages explain their orientation as > > follows: EPrints puts a particular emphasis on OA content (preprints > > and postprints of institutional research output, plus theses), DSpace > > on digital curation in general. Fedora describes itself as repository > > storage layer software requiring custom front-ends for any purpose. If > > you have any specific comments on these overall orientations and > > whether they are appropriate, they would be very helpful too. > > > > (3) While all these packages are free and open source, I would also > > be interested in any cost estimates in implementing the one you chose, > > how many hours or dollars you spent on setup, how much maintenance you > > have to expend, and how reliable the software is (crashes, downtime, > > etc). Would you recommend it to someone else? > > > > I will post a summary of the results (and maybe an interim report) > on AmSci > > OA Forum, and may get back to you if I reed a bit more detail. > Thank you in > > anticipation of a prompt response and a flood of emails. Email > direct to me > > at Arthur.Sale at utas.edu.au if you want. > > > > Arthur Sale > > Professor of Computing (Research) > > University of Tasmania > > http://leven.comp.utas.edu.au/AuseAccess/ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Dspace-general mailing list > > Dspace-general at mit.edu > > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/dspace-general > > > > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.mit.edu/pipermail/dspace-general/attachments/20051210/8e102084/attachment.htm From smuir1 at emich.edu Mon Dec 12 16:56:41 2005 From: smuir1 at emich.edu (Scott P. Muir) Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 16:56:41 -0500 Subject: [Dspace-general] Defining a collection Message-ID: <6.2.3.4.0.20051212164009.01d2b388@mail.emich.edu> i am aware that there is a good bit of documentation providing guidelines on community and collection policies, content guidelines, community startup procedures, etc. Has anyone developed some guidelines for what makes a collection to share with campus departments? e.g. How one decides when a group of materials is a unique collection, or ideas as to what materials are of high enough quality to be in a collection. These are the types of things that librarians look at regularly, but translating that into guidelines for the Department of XYZ and they consider setting up a collection in DSpace is a bit more difficult. The Libraries don't wish to micro-manage this, but at the same time we don't want to look at a collection or an item in a collection and gasp with horror or chuckle at what has been mounted. Has anyone already developed something like this that you would be willing to share? Thank you Scott P Muir Associate University Librarian Bruce T. Halle Library, Room 200F Eastern Michigan University 955 West Circle Drive Ypsilanti, MI 48197-2207 734.487.0020 x2222 (voice) 734.484.1151 (fax) http://www.emich.edu/halle/ mailto:scott.muir at emich.edu From lratliff at library.ucla.edu Mon Dec 12 19:48:16 2005 From: lratliff at library.ucla.edu (Louise Ratliff) Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 16:48:16 -0800 Subject: [Dspace-general] Defining a collection In-Reply-To: <6.2.3.4.0.20051212164009.01d2b388@mail.emich.edu> References: <6.2.3.4.0.20051212164009.01d2b388@mail.emich.edu> Message-ID: <346503218.1134406096@yrl-s-cat301.library.ucla.edu> Dear Scott, I don't know if it is helpful, but here is the URL for the policies for the University of California eScholarship repository. It's not DSpace, but it _is_ for use by campuses. You might also take a look at some of the other DSpace instances; Cornell and U. of Maryland come to mind, as well as the U. of Oregon Scholar's Bank. I've seen some policy documents which might be useful. Here's the wiki page listing the instances. Good luck, and please let me know what you find out! Louise Ratliff UCLA --On Monday, December 12, 2005 4:56 PM -0500 "Scott P. Muir" wrote: > i am aware that there is a good bit of documentation providing > guidelines on community and collection policies, content guidelines, > community startup procedures, etc. > > Has anyone developed some guidelines for what makes a collection to > share with campus departments? e.g. How one decides when a group of > materials is a unique collection, or ideas as to what materials are > of high enough quality to be in a collection. These are the types of > things that librarians look at regularly, but translating that into > guidelines for the Department of XYZ and they consider setting up a > collection in DSpace is a bit more difficult. The Libraries don't > wish to micro-manage this, but at the same time we don't want to > look at a collection or an item in a collection and gasp with horror > or chuckle at what has been mounted. > > Has anyone already developed something like this that you would be > willing to share? > > Thank you > > > Scott P Muir > Associate University Librarian > Bruce T. Halle Library, Room 200F > Eastern Michigan University > 955 West Circle Drive > Ypsilanti, MI 48197-2207 > > 734.487.0020 x2222 (voice) > 734.484.1151 (fax) > http://www.emich.edu/halle/ > > mailto:scott.muir at emich.edu > _______________________________________________ > Dspace-general mailing list > Dspace-general at mit.edu > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/dspace-general ____________________________ Louise Ratliff Social Sciences Cataloger UCLA Library Cataloging & Metadata Center (310) 825-8642 From S.Nieminen at Bradford.ac.uk Mon Dec 19 04:20:50 2005 From: S.Nieminen at Bradford.ac.uk (S Nieminen) Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2005 09:20:50 -0000 Subject: [Dspace-general] contacting DSpace.org Message-ID: <200512190920.jBJ9Ko3E010361@radon.cen.brad.ac.uk> Hello List, We are in the process of implementing DSpace at our site. For this purpose I wanted to open various documents at http://dspace.org/implement/operate.html. However, none of the documents would be found on the MIT website (error: file not found message). I also sent a message about this to info at dspace.org but the message bounced back as undeliverable. Does anybody know where the documents at the above URL now reside? Or maybe a functional email contact address for the http://www.dspace.org site administrator? Thanks Satu Ms Satu Nieminen Electronic Resources Librarian University of Bradford JB Priestley Library Richmond Road Bradford BD7 1DP Tel 01274 233400 Fax 01274 233398 Email s.nieminen at bradford.ac.uk From kenzie at MIT.EDU Mon Dec 19 15:22:40 2005 From: kenzie at MIT.EDU (MacKenzie Smith) Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2005 15:22:40 -0500 Subject: [Dspace-general] contacting DSpace.org In-Reply-To: <200512190920.jBJ9Ko3E010361@radon.cen.brad.ac.uk> Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20051219151722.026a5e38@hesiod> Hi Satu, Thanks for reporting this, it's just a broken link that we will fix soon. In the meantime the documents you want can also be found under 'DSpace Technology' 'installation and technical documentation' here http://dspace.org/technology/system-docs/index.html Thanks, MacKenzie At 09:20 AM 12/19/2005 +0000, S Nieminen wrote: >Hello List, > >We are in the process of implementing DSpace at our site. For this purpose I >wanted to open various documents at >http://dspace.org/implement/operate.html. However, none of the documents >would be found on the MIT website (error: file not found message). I also >sent a message about this to info at dspace.org but the message bounced back as >undeliverable. Does anybody know where the documents at the above URL now >reside? Or maybe a functional email contact address for the >http://www.dspace.org site administrator? > >Thanks > >Satu > >Ms Satu Nieminen >Electronic Resources Librarian >University of Bradford >JB Priestley Library >Richmond Road >Bradford >BD7 1DP >Tel 01274 233400 >Fax 01274 233398 >Email s.nieminen at bradford.ac.uk From Renata.Arovelius at adm.slu.se Tue Dec 20 05:31:03 2005 From: Renata.Arovelius at adm.slu.se (Renata Arovelius) Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2005 11:31:03 +0100 Subject: [Dspace-general] Critical issues for preservation of datasets Message-ID: <200512201031.jBKAV3fr027129@mail1.slu.se> Dear Colleagues, For your information: (please excuse cross-posting) An international workshop on digital preservation of datasets will be held at SLU in Uppsala/Sweden 26-27 April 2006. Fourteen Swedish universities are involved and share costs for a project on joint digital university archives. A pilot project has been carried out at the SLU with a test of four different scientific datasets within DSpace environment as a technical solution for archiving. We focused on both "bit and functional" preservation, and implementation of OAIS (Open Archival Information System Reference Model). The workshop will touch upon the critical issues for preservation of datasets, possibilities and scientists' needs to future access and reuse of the material. One of the major aims is to provide an international forum to exchange experience in digital preservation of datasets and get feed-back for the initiative to establish a joint digital university archives. Conference language is English. The workshop is open to all interested in digital preservation. For the preliminary programme and registration details, please see: http://www-conference.slu.se/digitalpreservation Welcome! /Renata Arovelius for the AGDA - group (Working Group on Joint Digital University Archives) ______________________________________ Renata Arovelius SLU (Sveriges lantbruksuniversitet)/ Swedish University of Agricultural Sciences Universitetsledningens kansli Rector Office Arrheniusplan 2 C Tel: +46 18 671283 P.O. Box 7070 Fax: +46 18 672000 S-750 07 Uppsala e-post/E-mail: Renata.Arovelius at adm.slu.se http://www-jurdok.adm.slu.se/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.mit.edu/pipermail/dspace-general/attachments/20051220/597c1ed0/attachment.htm From tull.9 at osu.edu Tue Dec 20 09:26:23 2005 From: tull.9 at osu.edu (LAURA TULL) Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2005 08:26:23 -0600 Subject: [Dspace-general] contacting DSpace.org Message-ID: <54648b54ba95.54ba9554648b@osu.edu> If you are looking for technical documentation it is at: http://dspace.org/technology/system-docs/index.html I just tried the url in your message and it worked. Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2005 09:20:50 -0000 From: "S Nieminen" Subject: [Dspace-general] contacting DSpace.org To: Message-ID: <200512190920.jBJ9Ko3E010361 at radon.cen.brad.ac.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hello List, We are in the process of implementing DSpace at our site. For this purpose I wanted to open various documents at http://dspace.org/implement/operate.html. However, none of the documents would be found on the MIT website (error: file not found message). I also sent a message about this to info at dspace.org but the message bounced back as undeliverable. Does anybody know where the documents at the above URL now reside? Or maybe a functional email contact address for the http://www.dspace.org site administrator? Thanks Satu Ms Satu Nieminen Electronic Resources Librarian University of Bradford JB Priestley Library Richmond Road Bradford BD7 1DP Tel 01274 233400 Fax 01274 233398 Email s.nieminen at bradford.ac.uk *********************************** Laura Tull Systems Librarian Ohio State University Libraries 1623 Wood Quail San Antonio TX 78248-1707 Email: tull.9 at osu.edu *********************************** From ehant at uom.gr Wed Dec 21 01:21:47 2005 From: ehant at uom.gr (Elisavet Chantavaridou) Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2005 08:21:47 +0200 Subject: [Dspace-general] authority files Message-ID: <002a01c605f6$d5c41910$9ad6fbc3@library.uom.gr> Hi all, is there a way we could link to authority files from DSpace records? How do we avoid duplicate entries for names (authors, etc.)? Are there any plans for such implementations in future versions? Cheers, Elisavet University of Macedonia Library (GREECE) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.mit.edu/pipermail/dspace-general/attachments/20051221/f45d6ab3/attachment.htm From kenzie at MIT.EDU Tue Dec 27 18:07:36 2005 From: kenzie at MIT.EDU (MacKenzie Smith) Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2005 18:07:36 -0500 Subject: [Dspace-general] authority files In-Reply-To: <002a01c605f6$d5c41910$9ad6fbc3@library.uom.gr> Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20051227175150.02659f40@hesiod> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.mit.edu/pipermail/dspace-general/attachments/20051227/44dbac28/attachment.htm From kenzie at MIT.EDU Wed Dec 28 10:34:23 2005 From: kenzie at MIT.EDU (MacKenzie Smith) Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2005 10:34:23 -0500 Subject: [Dspace-general] authority files In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20051228102820.0127d798@hesiod> Many of us already have quite good local name authority files. The problem was how to link them up to OCLC's sophisticated name authority matching heuristics, which is done on their server behind the Web Service interface. i.e. how to make their server-side process fall through to a local authority file (potentially different for each query) when there is no match on the LCNAF or other national authority file? Not obvious... I don't think the DSpace community would want to replicate the national name authority files as RePEc appears to be doing, so the question is how to combine them with local individuals who aren't already represented there. MacKenzie At 08:18 PM 12/27/2005 -0500, David Goodman wrote: >Hint-- check the way its done in RePEc. > >Dr. David Goodman >Associate Professor >Palmer School of Library and Information Science >Long Island University >dgoodman at liu.edu > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: dspace-general-bounces at mit.edu on behalf of MacKenzie Smith >Sent: Tue 12/27/2005 6:07 PM >To: Elisavet Chantavaridou; dspace-general at mit.edu >Subject: Re: [Dspace-general] authority files > >Hi Elisavet, > >You can specify a set of legal values for the drop-down lists in the >submission UI, >but you can't currently link that to an external authority file (unless >someone has >implemented that since I last checked). There is also an "ontology add-on" >that >the Univ of Minho has available here >http://dspace-dev.dsi.uminho.pt:8080/en/addon_ontology.jsp > >There was some work done with OCLC a couple of years ago to try >integrating a new OCLC name authority control Web Service with the >DSpace submission module and that worked very well, but it never went >beyond the demo stage... one problem was that the names in OCLC's >authority file only included published authors so that many MIT faculty >weren't found there (i.e. they only published journal articles or white >papers, >not books). We wanted to invent a way to include a local name authority >file in the results, but never had time to figure out how to do that. > >This is functionality that many institutions would like to have, but I don't >think there is a good, general solution for it yet and it's a pretty hard >problem. >No one has volunteered to do take it on, to my knowledge... > >MacKenzie > > >At 08:21 AM 12/21/2005 +0200, Elisavet Chantavaridou wrote: > > > Hi all, > > is there a way we could link to authority files from DSpace > records? How do we avoid duplicate entries for names (authors, etc.)? Are > there any plans for such implementations in future versions? > > Cheers, > > Elisavet > University of Macedonia Library (GREECE) > >MacKenzie Smith >Associate Director for Technology >MIT Libraries >Building E25-131d >77 Massachusetts Avenue >Cambridge, MA 02139 >(617)253-8184 >kenzie at mit.edu MacKenzie Smith Associate Director for Technology MIT Libraries Building E25-131d 77 Massachusetts Avenue Cambridge, MA 02139 (617)253-8184 kenzie at mit.edu