From lucy at thoughtandmemory.org  Sat Dec  1 10:43:18 2007
From: lucy at thoughtandmemory.org (Lucy Mendel)
Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2007 10:43:18 -0500
Subject: [Dev-flock] Fwd:  dumb question
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---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Lucy Mendel <lucy at thoughtandmemory.org>
Date: Dec 1, 2007 10:42 AM
Subject: Re: [Dev-flock] dumb question
To: Mike Eggar <eggar at hotmail.com>


Mike,

Does nothing happen or do you get an error?

In the past I've editted santa2.json directly and then done
  ./manage.py loaddata db/fixtures/santa2.json

output:
Loading 'db/fixtures/santa2' fixtures...
Installing json fixture 'db/fixtures/santa2' from absolute path.
Installed 530 object(s) from 1 fixture(s)

l.

On 11/30/07, Mike Eggar <eggar at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>  how can I add some data to the database, tried editing santa2.json then
> build_fixtures.rb and quickstart.py, no dice.  probably a typo or am I
> missing something?
>
> Mike
>
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From eggar at hotmail.com  Sat Dec  1 14:29:34 2007
From: eggar at hotmail.com (Mike Eggar)
Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2007 19:29:34 +0000
Subject: [Dev-flock] Fwd:  dumb question
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I get an error, "node does not exist", even after loaddata.py, but the user page works.  I just need to add one behavior and one argument so I can test a node with more than one behavior.  can you add data from the python command line?

Mike

> Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2007 10:43:18 -0500
> From: lucy at thoughtandmemory.org
> To: dev-flock at mit.edu
> Subject: [Dev-flock] Fwd:  dumb question
> 
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Lucy Mendel <lucy at thoughtandmemory.org>
> Date: Dec 1, 2007 10:42 AM
> Subject: Re: [Dev-flock] dumb question
> To: Mike Eggar <eggar at hotmail.com>
> 
> 
> Mike,
> 
> Does nothing happen or do you get an error?
> 
> In the past I've editted santa2.json directly and then done
>   ./manage.py loaddata db/fixtures/santa2.json
> 
> output:
> Loading 'db/fixtures/santa2' fixtures...
> Installing json fixture 'db/fixtures/santa2' from absolute path.
> Installed 530 object(s) from 1 fixture(s)
> 
> l.
> 
> On 11/30/07, Mike Eggar <eggar at hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >  how can I add some data to the database, tried editing santa2.json then
> > build_fixtures.rb and quickstart.py, no dice.  probably a typo or am I
> > missing something?
> >
> > Mike
> >
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From lucy at thoughtandmemory.org  Sat Dec  1 17:44:00 2007
From: lucy at thoughtandmemory.org (Lucy Mendel)
Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2007 17:44:00 -0500
Subject: [Dev-flock] Fwd: dumb question
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Mike,

I edited db/fixtures/santa2.json by adding a behavior to node 34:

  {
    "pk": 12,
    "model": "db.behavior",
    "fields": {
      "node": 34,
      "description": "",
      "url": "",
      "label": "Beeeeehavior",
      "state": 1,
      "dimension": 1
    }
  },

then I did
./manage.py loaddata db/fixtures/santa2.json

node 34 now has 4 behaviors: the original one, beeeeeehavior, and both of
those again. when i loaddata again the node doesn't get 8 behaviors. so...
maybe ...

I reset the database and then did quickstart.

sadly now I get an error:

at Main/node/34 that list-index is out of range.

doh.


On Dec 1, 2007 2:29 PM, Mike Eggar <eggar at hotmail.com> wrote:

>  I get an error, "node does not exist", even after loaddata.py, but the
> user page works.  I just need to add one behavior and one argument so I can
> test a node with more than one behavior.  can you add data from the python
> command line?
>
> Mike
>
> > Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2007 10:43:18 -0500
> > From: lucy at thoughtandmemory.org
> > To: dev-flock at mit.edu
> > Subject: [Dev-flock] Fwd: dumb question
>
> >
> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > From: Lucy Mendel < lucy at thoughtandmemory.org>
> > Date: Dec 1, 2007 10:42 AM
> > Subject: Re: [Dev-flock] dumb question
> > To: Mike Eggar <eggar at hotmail.com>
> >
> >
> > Mike,
> >
> > Does nothing happen or do you get an error?
> >
> > In the past I've editted santa2.json directly and then done
> > ./manage.py loaddata db/fixtures/santa2.json
> >
> > output:
> > Loading 'db/fixtures/santa2' fixtures...
> > Installing json fixture 'db/fixtures/santa2' from absolute path.
> > Installed 530 object(s) from 1 fixture(s)
> >
> > l.
> >
> > On 11/30/07, Mike Eggar <eggar at hotmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > how can I add some data to the database, tried editing santa2.jsonthen
> > > build_fixtures.rb and quickstart.py, no dice. probably a typo or am I
> > > missing something?
> > >
> > > Mike
> > >
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From clay at thoughtandmemory.org  Sun Dec  2 00:07:32 2007
From: clay at thoughtandmemory.org (Clay Ward)
Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2007 00:07:32 -0500
Subject: [Dev-flock] Next weekend's retreat on the cape!
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Hey folks!

Next weekend's retreat will begin at noon on Saturday at 728 Palmer Ave. in
Falmouth, MA.  I've attached a schedule.  Please let me know if you have
anything that you'd like to add or if you'd like to meet with me this week
to plan and lead a section of the discussion.

So far we are expecting Lucy, Clay, Dan, Becca, Wayne, Sean, and Payam.  Our
maybe category is Shaunalynn, Charlie, Alec, Fritz, Sherri, and Mike.  Zan
and Ben are going to briefly skype in for some moral support from California
and Canada.  Unfortunately Jamie and Chia will both be out of town.

Let me know if you'd like to bring any food or make a meal for us (no
pressure.)

If you need a ride then we can fit you in the back of my vw bus.  But the
windows don't roll up so expect a VERY cold ride.

I'm really looking forward to this.  Thanks everyone for being such a great
team!  And thanks to Pete and his family for letting us use their lovely
house.  (did I mention the hot tub?)  Please bring a sleeping bag and a matt
unless you're currently expecting a baby!

btw, the IRS came through with our tax exempt status!  (big sigh of relief.)

-clay

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From lucy at thoughtandmemory.org  Tue Dec  4 19:46:36 2007
From: lucy at thoughtandmemory.org (lucy@thoughtandmemory.org)
Date: Tue,  4 Dec 2007 19:46:36 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Dev-flock] r400 - in huginmunin/trunk/web/hm: . app/media/js
	app/templates/graph app/templates/intro app/views
Message-ID: <20071205004636.4239F75A70@thoughtandmemory.org>

graph mucking for filtering, but not much done. updated TODO

Added:
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/app/templates/graph/tags.html
Modified:
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/TODO
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/app/media/js/main.js
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/app/media/js/utils.js
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/app/templates/graph/info.html
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/app/templates/intro/page.html
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/app/views/main_urls.py


From eggar at thoughtandmemory.org  Tue Dec  4 23:34:21 2007
From: eggar at thoughtandmemory.org (eggar@thoughtandmemory.org)
Date: Tue,  4 Dec 2007 23:34:21 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Dev-flock] r401 - in huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/app: media/js
	templates templates/node views
Message-ID: <20071205043421.CD61775A70@thoughtandmemory.org>

add response to argument should be working.  +/- for arguments is kind 
of working, '+' adds a new rating, not the user's score yet just '1', 
minus isnt working yet


Added:
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/app/media/js/arguments.js
Modified:
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/app/media/js/main.js
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/app/templates/base.html
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/app/templates/node/argument.html
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/app/templates/node/argument_response.html
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/app/views/main.py
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/app/views/main_urls.py


From eggar at thoughtandmemory.org  Tue Dec  4 23:44:54 2007
From: eggar at thoughtandmemory.org (eggar@thoughtandmemory.org)
Date: Tue,  4 Dec 2007 23:44:54 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Dev-flock] r402 - huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/app/media/js
Message-ID: <20071205044454.6766F75A70@thoughtandmemory.org>

not sure I merged this one right


Modified:
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/app/media/js/main.js


From lucy at thoughtandmemory.org  Tue Dec  4 23:58:35 2007
From: lucy at thoughtandmemory.org (Lucy Mendel)
Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2007 23:58:35 -0500
Subject: [Dev-flock] r401 - in huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/app: media/js
	templates templates/node views
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References: <20071205043421.CD61775A70@thoughtandmemory.org>
Message-ID: <c570b9dc0712042058w6ba0cda9p448fcd2210626a87@mail.gmail.com>

Word!

THe merge (re: r402) is fine. I committed a half-baked function (doh!)

l.

On Dec 4, 2007 11:34 PM,  <eggar at thoughtandmemory.org> wrote:
> add response to argument should be working.  +/- for arguments is kind
> of working, '+' adds a new rating, not the user's score yet just '1',
> minus isnt working yet
>
>
> Added:
>    huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/app/media/js/arguments.js
> Modified:
>    huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/app/media/js/main.js
>    huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/app/templates/base.html
>    huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/app/templates/node/argument.html
>    huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/app/templates/node/argument_response.html
>    huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/app/views/main.py
>    huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/app/views/main_urls.py
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From dan at thoughtandmemory.org  Wed Dec  5 00:16:12 2007
From: dan at thoughtandmemory.org (dan@thoughtandmemory.org)
Date: Wed,  5 Dec 2007 00:16:12 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Dev-flock] r404 - in huginmunin/trunk/web/hm: . app/media/js
Message-ID: <20071205051612.09C8A75A71@thoughtandmemory.org>

 r411 at insignificant:  dan | 2007-12-04 12:38:32 -0500
 Changed utils.js to fix element_is_empty.  Also changed LOG/DEBUG/ERROR to use console.log/debug/error/trace.  These might be Firefox specific, but I think we're all developing on Firefox?


Modified:
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/app/media/js/utils.js


From dan at thoughtandmemory.org  Wed Dec  5 00:16:20 2007
From: dan at thoughtandmemory.org (dan@thoughtandmemory.org)
Date: Wed,  5 Dec 2007 00:16:20 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Dev-flock] r407 - in huginmunin/trunk/web/hm: . app/media/js/django
Message-ID: <20071205051620.BB3D175A76@thoughtandmemory.org>

 r414 at insignificant:  dan | 2007-12-04 12:40:32 -0500
 


Removed:
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/app/media/js/django/settings.js
Modified:
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/


From dan at thoughtandmemory.org  Wed Dec  5 00:16:08 2007
From: dan at thoughtandmemory.org (dan@thoughtandmemory.org)
Date: Wed,  5 Dec 2007 00:16:08 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Dev-flock] r403 - in huginmunin/trunk/web/hm: . app/media/js
	app/media/js/django
Message-ID: <20071205051609.299EA75A70@thoughtandmemory.org>

 r410 at insignificant:  dan | 2007-12-04 10:40:03 -0500
 Added date parsing and formatting functions similar to Django's own.  Not all options are implemented, but most of the useful ones are.  See app/media/js/django/dates.js for details.


Added:
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/app/media/js/django/
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/app/media/js/django/dates.js
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/app/media/js/django/settings.js
Modified:
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/


From dan at thoughtandmemory.org  Wed Dec  5 00:16:29 2007
From: dan at thoughtandmemory.org (dan@thoughtandmemory.org)
Date: Wed,  5 Dec 2007 00:16:29 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Dev-flock] r410 - in huginmunin/trunk/web/hm: . app/lib
Message-ID: <20071205051629.DA65275A78@thoughtandmemory.org>

 r417 at insignificant:  dan | 2007-12-04 13:05:53 -0500
 Added structures.py.  Right now it contains a few exceptions and the resolve_path method, but soon it will have the structure definition code that is used in view.


Added:
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/app/lib/structures.py
Modified:
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/


From dan at thoughtandmemory.org  Wed Dec  5 00:16:14 2007
From: dan at thoughtandmemory.org (dan@thoughtandmemory.org)
Date: Wed,  5 Dec 2007 00:16:14 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Dev-flock] r405 - in huginmunin/trunk/web/hm: . app/media/js
Message-ID: <20071205051614.C6D1475A71@thoughtandmemory.org>

 r412 at insignificant:  dan | 2007-12-04 12:39:52 -0500
 Fixed several issues with JSON templates.  Error-reporting in particular is better and respects the variable DEBUG_TEMPLATES (set in settings.js).


Modified:
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/app/media/js/json_template.js


From dan at thoughtandmemory.org  Wed Dec  5 00:16:35 2007
From: dan at thoughtandmemory.org (dan@thoughtandmemory.org)
Date: Wed,  5 Dec 2007 00:16:35 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Dev-flock] r412 - in huginmunin/trunk/web/hm: . app/lib
Message-ID: <20071205051635.A41E075A71@thoughtandmemory.org>

 r419 at insignificant:  dan | 2007-12-04 13:11:58 -0500
 Removed some old commented out code.


Modified:
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/app/lib/patterns.py
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/app/lib/structures.py


From dan at thoughtandmemory.org  Wed Dec  5 00:16:17 2007
From: dan at thoughtandmemory.org (dan@thoughtandmemory.org)
Date: Wed,  5 Dec 2007 00:16:17 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Dev-flock] r406 - in huginmunin/trunk/web/hm: . app/media/js
Message-ID: <20071205051617.9C1CD75A75@thoughtandmemory.org>

 r413 at insignificant:  dan | 2007-12-04 12:40:11 -0500
 Moved settings.js...makes more sense here.


Added:
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/app/media/js/settings.js
Modified:
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/


From dan at thoughtandmemory.org  Wed Dec  5 00:16:23 2007
From: dan at thoughtandmemory.org (dan@thoughtandmemory.org)
Date: Wed,  5 Dec 2007 00:16:23 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Dev-flock] r408 - in huginmunin/trunk/web/hm: . app/media/js
Message-ID: <20071205051623.4651375A76@thoughtandmemory.org>

 r415 at insignificant:  dan | 2007-12-04 12:42:40 -0500
 Moved show_argument_responses and handle_argument_responses to behavior.js.  Also updated them slightly to use jQuery.


Modified:
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/app/media/js/behavior.js


From dan at thoughtandmemory.org  Wed Dec  5 00:16:26 2007
From: dan at thoughtandmemory.org (dan@thoughtandmemory.org)
Date: Wed,  5 Dec 2007 00:16:26 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Dev-flock] r409 - in huginmunin/trunk/web/hm: . app/lib
Message-ID: <20071205051626.DA57F75A77@thoughtandmemory.org>

 r416 at insignificant:  dan | 2007-12-04 12:54:32 -0500
 Added patterns.py to build regular expressions for json_template.py and structures.py.


Added:
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/app/lib/patterns.py
Modified:
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/


From dan at thoughtandmemory.org  Wed Dec  5 00:16:32 2007
From: dan at thoughtandmemory.org (dan@thoughtandmemory.org)
Date: Wed,  5 Dec 2007 00:16:32 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Dev-flock] r411 - in huginmunin/trunk/web/hm: . app/lib
Message-ID: <20071205051632.AAE0675A70@thoughtandmemory.org>

 r418 at insignificant:  dan | 2007-12-04 13:10:43 -0500
 Moved structure definition code into structures.py.  The structure definitions are used to extract a specified arbitrarily deep object structure from a given base object.  It's somewhat improved from the first version.


Modified:
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/app/lib/structures.py


From dan at thoughtandmemory.org  Wed Dec  5 00:16:41 2007
From: dan at thoughtandmemory.org (dan@thoughtandmemory.org)
Date: Wed,  5 Dec 2007 00:16:41 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Dev-flock] r413 - in huginmunin/trunk/web/hm: . app/lib
Message-ID: <20071205051641.8FA6375A71@thoughtandmemory.org>

 r420 at insignificant:  dan | 2007-12-04 13:13:33 -0500
 Improved Django-to-JSON template conversion.  Someday this will use the code from structures.py, but that day is not today.


Modified:
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/app/lib/json_template.py


From dan at thoughtandmemory.org  Wed Dec  5 00:16:45 2007
From: dan at thoughtandmemory.org (dan@thoughtandmemory.org)
Date: Wed,  5 Dec 2007 00:16:45 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Dev-flock] r414 - in huginmunin/trunk/web/hm: . app/lib
Message-ID: <20071205051645.3343875A75@thoughtandmemory.org>

 r421 at insignificant:  dan | 2007-12-04 13:14:13 -0500
 Removed commented out code.


Modified:
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/app/lib/json_template.py


From dan at thoughtandmemory.org  Wed Dec  5 00:16:47 2007
From: dan at thoughtandmemory.org (dan@thoughtandmemory.org)
Date: Wed,  5 Dec 2007 00:16:47 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Dev-flock] r415 - in huginmunin/trunk/web/hm: . app/lib
Message-ID: <20071205051647.DFE5075A76@thoughtandmemory.org>

 r422 at insignificant:  dan | 2007-12-04 13:16:20 -0500
 Moved utils.py to json_utils.py, since, well, that's what it is.


Added:
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/app/lib/json_utils.py
Removed:
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/app/lib/utils.py
Modified:
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/


From dan at thoughtandmemory.org  Wed Dec  5 00:16:50 2007
From: dan at thoughtandmemory.org (dan@thoughtandmemory.org)
Date: Wed,  5 Dec 2007 00:16:50 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Dev-flock] r416 - in huginmunin/trunk/web/hm: . app/templates
Message-ID: <20071205051650.59F0D75A77@thoughtandmemory.org>

 r423 at insignificant:  dan | 2007-12-04 13:17:06 -0500
 Added django/dates.js and settings.js to included JS files in base.html.


Modified:
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/app/templates/base.html


From dan at thoughtandmemory.org  Wed Dec  5 00:16:53 2007
From: dan at thoughtandmemory.org (dan@thoughtandmemory.org)
Date: Wed,  5 Dec 2007 00:16:53 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Dev-flock] r417 - in huginmunin/trunk/web/hm: . app/media/js
Message-ID: <20071205051653.42B0B75A78@thoughtandmemory.org>

 r424 at insignificant:  dan | 2007-12-04 13:19:10 -0500
 Added 'load' method to Template class.  This method will call Main/get_json_template to retrieve a template if it doesn't exist in the client-side cache (Template.Cache).  It also takes a callback as a parameter and will trigger that callback when the template has been successfully retrieved and compiled.


Modified:
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/app/media/js/json_template.js


From dan at thoughtandmemory.org  Wed Dec  5 00:19:01 2007
From: dan at thoughtandmemory.org (dan@thoughtandmemory.org)
Date: Wed,  5 Dec 2007 00:19:01 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Dev-flock] r420 - in huginmunin/trunk/web/hm: . app/views
Message-ID: <20071205051901.2761D75A75@thoughtandmemory.org>

 r427 at insignificant:  dan | 2007-12-04 13:31:12 -0500
 Changed dependency on hm.app.lib.utils to hm.app.lib.json_utils
 


Modified:
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/app/views/main.py


From dan at thoughtandmemory.org  Wed Dec  5 00:19:09 2007
From: dan at thoughtandmemory.org (dan@thoughtandmemory.org)
Date: Wed,  5 Dec 2007 00:19:09 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Dev-flock] r423 - in huginmunin/trunk/web/hm: . app/templates/node
Message-ID: <20071205051909.A37DC75A77@thoughtandmemory.org>

 r430 at insignificant:  dan | 2007-12-04 15:17:44 -0500
 Removed messages stating that the {{date|date}} filter didn't work, since it does now.


Modified:
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/app/templates/node/argument.html
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/app/templates/node/createdby.html


From dan at thoughtandmemory.org  Wed Dec  5 00:18:59 2007
From: dan at thoughtandmemory.org (dan@thoughtandmemory.org)
Date: Wed,  5 Dec 2007 00:18:59 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Dev-flock] r419 - in huginmunin/trunk/web/hm: . app/lib
Message-ID: <20071205051859.13E2775A71@thoughtandmemory.org>

 r426 at insignificant:  dan | 2007-12-04 13:30:26 -0500
 Changed dependencies on hm.app.lib.utils to hm.app.lib.json_utils.


Modified:
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/app/lib/json_template.py
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/app/lib/json_utils.py
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/app/lib/structures.py


From dan at thoughtandmemory.org  Wed Dec  5 00:18:55 2007
From: dan at thoughtandmemory.org (dan@thoughtandmemory.org)
Date: Wed,  5 Dec 2007 00:18:55 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Dev-flock] r418 - in huginmunin/trunk/web/hm: . app/views
Message-ID: <20071205051856.08BE875A70@thoughtandmemory.org>

 r425 at insignificant:  dan | 2007-12-04 13:20:42 -0500
 Added get_json_template, slightly changed how the default templates are generated, changed my_json_view_arguments to use the new @json_api decorator.


Modified:
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/app/views/main.py


From dan at thoughtandmemory.org  Wed Dec  5 00:19:03 2007
From: dan at thoughtandmemory.org (dan@thoughtandmemory.org)
Date: Wed,  5 Dec 2007 00:19:03 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Dev-flock] r421 - in huginmunin/trunk/web/hm: . app/lib
Message-ID: <20071205051903.97B4A75A75@thoughtandmemory.org>

 r428 at insignificant:  dan | 2007-12-04 14:12:24 -0500
 Added JSON_API and json_response to hm.app.lib.json_utils


Modified:
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/app/lib/json_utils.py


From dan at thoughtandmemory.org  Wed Dec  5 00:19:06 2007
From: dan at thoughtandmemory.org (dan@thoughtandmemory.org)
Date: Wed,  5 Dec 2007 00:19:06 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Dev-flock] r422 - in huginmunin/trunk/web/hm: . app/media/js
	app/media/js/django
Message-ID: <20071205051906.6EB2975A76@thoughtandmemory.org>

 r429 at insignificant:  dan | 2007-12-04 14:14:57 -0500
 Fixed an issue with django/dates.js.  I'm not sure whether the current django/dates.js=>to_date() is cross-browser...I doubt it, actually.


Modified:
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/app/media/js/django/dates.js
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/app/media/js/json_template.js


From dan at thoughtandmemory.org  Wed Dec  5 00:19:12 2007
From: dan at thoughtandmemory.org (dan@thoughtandmemory.org)
Date: Wed,  5 Dec 2007 00:19:12 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Dev-flock] r424 - in huginmunin/trunk/web/hm: . app/media/js
	app/media/js/django
Message-ID: <20071205051912.42DC675A77@thoughtandmemory.org>

 r431 at insignificant:  dan | 2007-12-04 15:19:56 -0500
 Several changes.  Fixed a few typos and bugs in json_template.js, added an error message to django/dates.js in case it ever gets a non-string date, and JSON wasn't eval-ing the strings returned by the server, so fixed that.


Modified:
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/app/media/js/django/dates.js
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/app/media/js/json_template.js
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/app/media/js/utils.js


From dan at thoughtandmemory.org  Wed Dec  5 00:19:15 2007
From: dan at thoughtandmemory.org (dan@thoughtandmemory.org)
Date: Wed,  5 Dec 2007 00:19:15 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Dev-flock] r425 - in huginmunin/trunk/web/hm: . app/views
Message-ID: <20071205051915.4AB5B75A78@thoughtandmemory.org>

 r432 at insignificant:  dan | 2007-12-04 15:22:50 -0500
 Moved json_response to lib.json_utils; changed a couple functions to use @json_api or JSON_API.
 


Modified:
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/app/views/main.py


From dan at thoughtandmemory.org  Wed Dec  5 00:19:45 2007
From: dan at thoughtandmemory.org (dan@thoughtandmemory.org)
Date: Wed,  5 Dec 2007 00:19:45 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Dev-flock] r426 - in huginmunin/trunk/web/hm: . app/lib app/views
Message-ID: <20071205051945.07CB575A70@thoughtandmemory.org>

 r433 at insignificant:  dan | 2007-12-04 15:40:33 -0500
 Removed some print statements from main.py; moved code that generates default_templates.js into lib.json_templates.py.


Modified:
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/app/lib/json_template.py
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/app/views/main.py


From dan at thoughtandmemory.org  Wed Dec  5 00:19:47 2007
From: dan at thoughtandmemory.org (dan@thoughtandmemory.org)
Date: Wed,  5 Dec 2007 00:19:47 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Dev-flock] r427 - in huginmunin/trunk/web/hm: . app app/views
Message-ID: <20071205051947.DCCD775A71@thoughtandmemory.org>

 r434 at insignificant:  dan | 2007-12-04 15:48:30 -0500
 Added a 'test' module in the view so experimental or unneeded code can be moved there.
 


Added:
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/app/views/test.py
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/app/views/test_urls.py
Modified:
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/app/urls.py


From dan at thoughtandmemory.org  Wed Dec  5 00:19:54 2007
From: dan at thoughtandmemory.org (dan@thoughtandmemory.org)
Date: Wed,  5 Dec 2007 00:19:54 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Dev-flock] r430 - in huginmunin/trunk/web/hm: . app/media/js
Message-ID: <20071205051955.0610175A77@thoughtandmemory.org>

 r437 at insignificant:  dan | 2007-12-04 17:56:06 -0500
 Added 'floatformat' to available filters on client side.


Modified:
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/app/media/js/json_template.js


From dan at thoughtandmemory.org  Wed Dec  5 00:19:49 2007
From: dan at thoughtandmemory.org (dan@thoughtandmemory.org)
Date: Wed,  5 Dec 2007 00:19:49 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Dev-flock] r428 - in huginmunin/trunk/web/hm: . db
Message-ID: <20071205051949.EE26775A75@thoughtandmemory.org>

 r435 at insignificant:  dan | 2007-12-04 15:49:15 -0500
 Fixed an error in db/graph.py


Modified:
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/db/graph.py


From dan at thoughtandmemory.org  Wed Dec  5 00:19:52 2007
From: dan at thoughtandmemory.org (dan@thoughtandmemory.org)
Date: Wed,  5 Dec 2007 00:19:52 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Dev-flock] r429 - in huginmunin/trunk/web/hm: . app/templates/node
Message-ID: <20071205051952.7444475A76@thoughtandmemory.org>

 r436 at insignificant:  dan | 2007-12-04 17:55:37 -0500
 Removed the comments from the place where "floatformat" is used in behavior_info.html, since it's now available client side as well.


Modified:
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/app/templates/node/behavior_info.html


From dan at thoughtandmemory.org  Wed Dec  5 00:21:03 2007
From: dan at thoughtandmemory.org (dan@thoughtandmemory.org)
Date: Wed,  5 Dec 2007 00:21:03 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Dev-flock] r431 - in huginmunin/trunk/web/hm: . app/lib
	app/media/js app/templates/node app/views
Message-ID: <20071205052103.B11D175A70@thoughtandmemory.org>

 r438 at insignificant:  dan | 2007-12-04 21:13:19 -0500
 Added 'withmany' and 'script' tags, but the script tags don't as expected yet.
 Fixed a few things with json templates.


Modified:
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/app/lib/json_template.py
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/app/media/js/behavior.js
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/app/media/js/json_template.js
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/app/media/js/main.js
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/app/templates/node/argument.html
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/app/templates/node/argument_add.html
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/app/templates/node/behaviors.html
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/app/views/main.py
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/app/views/main_urls.py
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/app/views/test.py
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/app/views/test_urls.py


From dan at thoughtandmemory.org  Wed Dec  5 00:21:07 2007
From: dan at thoughtandmemory.org (dan@thoughtandmemory.org)
Date: Wed,  5 Dec 2007 00:21:07 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Dev-flock] r432 - in huginmunin/trunk/web/hm: . app/templates/node
Message-ID: <20071205052107.F37FD75A71@thoughtandmemory.org>

 r439 at insignificant:  dan | 2007-12-04 21:14:04 -0500
 Added argument_response_add, but it doesn't work yet.


Added:
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/app/templates/node/argument_response_add.html
Modified:
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/


From dan at thoughtandmemory.org  Wed Dec  5 00:21:10 2007
From: dan at thoughtandmemory.org (dan@thoughtandmemory.org)
Date: Wed,  5 Dec 2007 00:21:10 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Dev-flock] r433 - in huginmunin/trunk/web/hm: . app/templates
	app/templates/test
Message-ID: <20071205052110.2087C75A75@thoughtandmemory.org>

 r440 at insignificant:  dan | 2007-12-04 21:15:16 -0500
 Added templates/test and a few test templates.


Added:
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/app/templates/test/
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/app/templates/test/base.html
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/app/templates/test/js_template.html
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/app/templates/test/tags.html
Modified:
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/


From dan at thoughtandmemory.org  Wed Dec  5 00:21:12 2007
From: dan at thoughtandmemory.org (dan@thoughtandmemory.org)
Date: Wed,  5 Dec 2007 00:21:12 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Dev-flock] r434 - in huginmunin/trunk/web/hm: . app/lib
	app/lib/tags
Message-ID: <20071205052112.5D3F775A76@thoughtandmemory.org>

 r441 at insignificant:  dan | 2007-12-04 21:17:23 -0500
 Added lib/tags directory, for custom tags.


Added:
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/app/lib/tags/
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/app/lib/tags/__init__.py
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/app/lib/tags/script.py
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/app/lib/tags/utils.py
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/app/lib/tags/vars.py
Modified:
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/


From dan at thoughtandmemory.org  Wed Dec  5 00:21:15 2007
From: dan at thoughtandmemory.org (dan@thoughtandmemory.org)
Date: Wed,  5 Dec 2007 00:21:15 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Dev-flock] r435 - in huginmunin/trunk/web/hm: . app/media/js
	app/templates/test
Message-ID: <20071205052115.94FEC75A77@thoughtandmemory.org>

 r442 at insignificant:  dan | 2007-12-04 21:46:43 -0500
 Fixed a problem with javascript inside client-side templates.
 Before now, scripts inside templates could not reference themselves when rendered clientside, because the script would be executed before the HTML was inserted into the DOM.  (That is, most javascript would work, but jQuery selectors could not target the template.)
 Now, you can enclose scripts within {% script %} and it will render correctly:
   - when rendered on the server, the <script type="text/javascript"> tags are used
   - when rendered on the client, you can use Template.build to generate an object containing two attributes: 'html' and 'js'.  You can eval() the 'js' attribute after inserting the 'html'.


Modified:
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/app/media/js/json_template.js
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/app/templates/test/js_template.html
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/app/templates/test/tags.html


From dan at thoughtandmemory.org  Wed Dec  5 00:21:19 2007
From: dan at thoughtandmemory.org (dan@thoughtandmemory.org)
Date: Wed,  5 Dec 2007 00:21:19 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Dev-flock] r436 - in huginmunin/trunk/web/hm: . app/lib/tags
	app/templates/test
Message-ID: <20071205052119.C4C8275A78@thoughtandmemory.org>

 r443 at insignificant:  dan | 2007-12-04 22:00:13 -0500
 Fixed a typo in lib.tags.utils.resolve; fixed withmany; updated test/tags, test/js_template.


Modified:
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/app/lib/tags/script.py
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/app/lib/tags/utils.py
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/app/lib/tags/vars.py
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/app/templates/test/js_template.html
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/app/templates/test/tags.html


From dan at thoughtandmemory.org  Wed Dec  5 00:22:28 2007
From: dan at thoughtandmemory.org (dan@thoughtandmemory.org)
Date: Wed,  5 Dec 2007 00:22:28 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Dev-flock] r437 - in huginmunin/trunk/web/hm: . app/media/js
	app/templates app/templates/node app/views
Message-ID: <20071205052228.4ACDD75A70@thoughtandmemory.org>



Modified:
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/app/media/js/main.js
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/app/templates/base.html
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/app/templates/node/argument.html
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/app/views/main.py
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/app/views/main_urls.py


From dan at thoughtandmemory.org  Wed Dec  5 00:22:51 2007
From: dan at thoughtandmemory.org (dan@thoughtandmemory.org)
Date: Wed,  5 Dec 2007 00:22:51 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Dev-flock] r438 - in huginmunin/trunk/web/hm: . app/media/js
	app/templates/node app/views
Message-ID: <20071205052251.1085975A70@thoughtandmemory.org>

 r446 at insignificant:  dan | 2007-12-04 23:35:44 -0500
 Fixed behavior-rating.  Moved 'rater' instantiation to node/behavior_info.html.  Fixed a typo in main.js (unterminated string literal).


Modified:
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/app/media/js/blocks.js
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/app/media/js/main.js
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/app/templates/node/argument.html
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/app/templates/node/behavior_info.html
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/app/views/main.py


From dan at thoughtandmemory.org  Wed Dec  5 00:24:04 2007
From: dan at thoughtandmemory.org (dan@thoughtandmemory.org)
Date: Wed,  5 Dec 2007 00:24:04 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Dev-flock] r439 - in huginmunin/trunk/web/hm: . app/media/js
	app/templates/node app/views
Message-ID: <20071205052404.580F775A70@thoughtandmemory.org>



Modified:
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/app/media/js/main.js
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/app/templates/node/argument.html
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/app/views/main.py


From dan at thoughtandmemory.org  Wed Dec  5 00:25:35 2007
From: dan at thoughtandmemory.org (dan@thoughtandmemory.org)
Date: Wed,  5 Dec 2007 00:25:35 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Dev-flock] r440 - in huginmunin/trunk/web/hm: . app/media/js
Message-ID: <20071205052535.3073B75A70@thoughtandmemory.org>

 r449 at insignificant:  dan | 2007-12-04 23:57:39 -0500
 Removed a bunch of ^M characters from main.js.
 Moved some functions from behavior.js to arguments.js.


Modified:
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/app/media/js/arguments.js
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/app/media/js/behavior.js
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/app/media/js/main.js


From dan at thoughtandmemory.org  Wed Dec  5 00:25:50 2007
From: dan at thoughtandmemory.org (dan@thoughtandmemory.org)
Date: Wed,  5 Dec 2007 00:25:50 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Dev-flock] r441 - in huginmunin/trunk/web/hm: . app/templates/node
Message-ID: <20071205052550.0C92D75A70@thoughtandmemory.org>

 r450 at insignificant:  dan | 2007-12-04 23:59:00 -0500
 Removed my changes from node/argument.html, since Mike already did that part.


Modified:
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/app/templates/node/argument.html


From dan at thoughtandmemory.org  Wed Dec  5 00:25:55 2007
From: dan at thoughtandmemory.org (dan@thoughtandmemory.org)
Date: Wed,  5 Dec 2007 00:25:55 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Dev-flock] r442 - in huginmunin/trunk/web/hm: . app/media/js
	app/templates/node app/views
Message-ID: <20071205052555.165F875A71@thoughtandmemory.org>



Modified:
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/app/media/js/main.js
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/app/templates/node/argument.html
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/app/views/main.py


From danring at MIT.EDU  Wed Dec  5 00:51:56 2007
From: danring at MIT.EDU (Daniel Ring)
Date: Wed, 05 Dec 2007 00:51:56 -0500
Subject: [Dev-flock] TODO list
Message-ID: <47563C7C.90707@mit.edu>

I'm planning to work on ratings (obviously) and evaluations from the
TODO list first.

About that Add Argument -> Add Behavior bug - the bug has something to
do with jquery.rte... using FireBug, I can see that jquery.rte.js Line
44 is failing (designMode something or other).  I think the broken pipe
is because there are too many requests (because rte.css gets requested
non stop).  It doesn't seem to happen with Firefox 3.0, and I haven't
tried with anything else yet, but maybe it's just Firefox 2?

Sorry about the spam.
Dan


From lucy at thoughtandmemory.org  Wed Dec  5 01:02:01 2007
From: lucy at thoughtandmemory.org (Lucy Mendel)
Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2007 01:02:01 -0500
Subject: [Dev-flock] good work!
Message-ID: <c570b9dc0712042202p4061ce1o9e69efa98ae8f8ca@mail.gmail.com>

apparently python 2.5.1 has a bug where "a medium size regular
expression crashes Python 2.5.1 as follows:.."

   http://bugs.python.org/issue1160

This isn't a problem on the server since we're using python 2.4.4

I'll let you know if upgrading downgrading or something else solves
the problem on my mac with python 2.5.1.

What is a problem on the server is that /Main/node/xx has a syntax
error, invalid block tag {% script %} 1 out of 5 times when I load a
page. Seems random.



Otherwise ---- excellent work! Keep it up and we'll be launching this
weekend for sure!

Clay and I will keep you posted on the Friday meeting.  We're
interested in our organizations merging, but we don't expect great
changes other than more collaborators. Our technology is more advanced
thus we plan to keep our prototype work and possibly gain developers.
In particular, Clay will not relinguish control of the project, so we
do NOT expect serious organizational changes. If you have any
questions regarding ThoughtAndMemory's organizational structure and/or
future please let us know and we (re: Clay) will be happy to answer
them.

It's a bit past my bedtime; I look forward to exploring the recent
prototype functionality tomorrow morning,

Lucy.


From lucy at thoughtandmemory.org  Wed Dec  5 01:04:59 2007
From: lucy at thoughtandmemory.org (Lucy Mendel)
Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2007 01:04:59 -0500
Subject: [Dev-flock] TODO list
In-Reply-To: <47563C7C.90707@mit.edu>
References: <47563C7C.90707@mit.edu>
Message-ID: <c570b9dc0712042204k3cc2cc87t240d9bca508ed973@mail.gmail.com>

Ok.

The ratings and evaluations are definitely higher priority than rich
text editing. We can remove that feature for the launch until we get
the bug fixed.

ps - revision spam is a beautiful sight indeed

On Dec 5, 2007 12:51 AM, Daniel Ring <danring at mit.edu> wrote:
> I'm planning to work on ratings (obviously) and evaluations from the
> TODO list first.
>
> About that Add Argument -> Add Behavior bug - the bug has something to
> do with jquery.rte... using FireBug, I can see that jquery.rte.js Line
> 44 is failing (designMode something or other).  I think the broken pipe
> is because there are too many requests (because rte.css gets requested
> non stop).  It doesn't seem to happen with Firefox 3.0, and I haven't
> tried with anything else yet, but maybe it's just Firefox 2?
>
> Sorry about the spam.
> Dan
> _______________________________________________
> Dev-flock mailing list
> Dev-flock at mit.edu
> http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/dev-flock
>


From dan at thoughtandmemory.org  Wed Dec  5 01:24:33 2007
From: dan at thoughtandmemory.org (dan@thoughtandmemory.org)
Date: Wed,  5 Dec 2007 01:24:33 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Dev-flock] r443 - in huginmunin/trunk/web/hm: .
	app/templates/account app/views
Message-ID: <20071205062433.4A60475A70@thoughtandmemory.org>

 r493 at insignificant:  dan | 2007-12-05 01:20:29 -0500
 Login and register pages were broken (wrong block names).


Modified:
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/app/templates/account/login.html
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/app/templates/account/register.html
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/app/views/account.py


From dan at thoughtandmemory.org  Wed Dec  5 01:24:36 2007
From: dan at thoughtandmemory.org (dan@thoughtandmemory.org)
Date: Wed,  5 Dec 2007 01:24:36 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Dev-flock] r444 - in huginmunin/trunk/web/hm: . db
Message-ID: <20071205062436.2697075A71@thoughtandmemory.org>

 r494 at insignificant:  dan | 2007-12-05 01:24:11 -0500
 Fixed (I think) the bug causing ratings to show up when they shouldn't (TODO.BUGS[3])
 Also, somewhere in the earlier spam I fixed the behavior rating - it was submitting the node id instead of the behavior id, iirc.


Modified:
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/TODO
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/db/rating.py


From lucy at thoughtandmemory.org  Wed Dec  5 09:12:04 2007
From: lucy at thoughtandmemory.org (lucy@thoughtandmemory.org)
Date: Wed,  5 Dec 2007 09:12:04 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Dev-flock] r445 - huginmunin/trunk/web/hm
Message-ID: <20071205141205.07B7475A70@thoughtandmemory.org>

updated TODO with add behavior and rate behavior database hookup

Modified:
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/TODO


From eggar at hotmail.com  Thu Dec  6 01:44:36 2007
From: eggar at hotmail.com (Mike Eggar)
Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2007 06:44:36 +0000
Subject: [Dev-flock] TODO list
In-Reply-To: <c570b9dc0712042204k3cc2cc87t240d9bca508ed973@mail.gmail.com>
References: <47563C7C.90707@mit.edu>
	<c570b9dc0712042204k3cc2cc87t240d9bca508ed973@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BAY142-W429A786AF660D3F7C7454AB96F0@phx.gbl>


I can add the drop-down for dimension when you add a behavior, the code won't be pretty but it'll work for friday, and I'll fix it up design-wise over the weekend.  

Dan, mabye you can help me out with adding a behavior, (add_new_behavior in main.py), I've tried messing with the Behavior model, and every insert configuration I can think of.

Mike


> Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2007 01:04:59 -0500
> From: lucy at thoughtandmemory.org
> To: danring at mit.edu; dev-flock at mit.edu
> Subject: Re: [Dev-flock] TODO list
> 
> Ok.
> 
> The ratings and evaluations are definitely higher priority than rich
> text editing. We can remove that feature for the launch until we get
> the bug fixed.
> 
> ps - revision spam is a beautiful sight indeed
> 
> On Dec 5, 2007 12:51 AM, Daniel Ring <danring at mit.edu> wrote:
> > I'm planning to work on ratings (obviously) and evaluations from the
> > TODO list first.
> >
> > About that Add Argument -> Add Behavior bug - the bug has something to
> > do with jquery.rte... using FireBug, I can see that jquery.rte.js Line
> > 44 is failing (designMode something or other).  I think the broken pipe
> > is because there are too many requests (because rte.css gets requested
> > non stop).  It doesn't seem to happen with Firefox 3.0, and I haven't
> > tried with anything else yet, but maybe it's just Firefox 2?
> >
> > Sorry about the spam.
> > Dan
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From danring at MIT.EDU  Thu Dec  6 13:52:01 2007
From: danring at MIT.EDU (Daniel Ring)
Date: Thu, 06 Dec 2007 13:52:01 -0500
Subject: [Dev-flock] TODO list
In-Reply-To: <BAY142-W429A786AF660D3F7C7454AB96F0@phx.gbl>
References: <47563C7C.90707@mit.edu>
	<c570b9dc0712042204k3cc2cc87t240d9bca508ed973@mail.gmail.com>
	<BAY142-W429A786AF660D3F7C7454AB96F0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <475844D1.4080803@mit.edu>

What error was it giving you?  In general, if you're having trouble
adding entries to the database, you'll get better error descriptions
from the shell than from AJAX calls:
./manage.py shell
from db.models import *
b = Behavior(label="test")
b.save()
# throws an exception:
OperationalError: (1048, "Column 'dimension_id' cannot be null")

Both dimension_id and node_id must be provided.  Note that the form
field for "dimension" is a text field, but behaviors require a
dimension_id referencing a Dimension object.  (I suspect that was the
problem you were having, Mike?)  We can either create a dimension with
whatever text the user gives, and then use that id, or we can provide a
list of existing dimensions.  We should do the latter for now.

Anyway, the commit should fix behavior_add for now.

Dan


Mike Eggar wrote:
> I can add the drop-down for dimension when you add a behavior, the code
> won't be pretty but it'll work for friday, and I'll fix it up
> design-wise over the weekend. 
> 
> Dan, mabye you can help me out with adding a behavior, (add_new_behavior
> in main.py), I've tried messing with the Behavior model, and every
> insert configuration I can think of.
> 
> Mike
> 
> 
>> Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2007 01:04:59 -0500
>> From: lucy at thoughtandmemory.org
>> To: danring at mit.edu; dev-flock at mit.edu
>> Subject: Re: [Dev-flock] TODO list
>>
>> Ok.
>>
>> The ratings and evaluations are definitely higher priority than rich
>> text editing. We can remove that feature for the launch until we get
>> the bug fixed.
>>
>> ps - revision spam is a beautiful sight indeed
>>
>> On Dec 5, 2007 12:51 AM, Daniel Ring <danring at mit.edu> wrote:
>> > I'm planning to work on ratings (obviously) and evaluations from the
>> > TODO list first.
>> >
>> > About that Add Argument -> Add Behavior bug - the bug has something to
>> > do with jquery.rte... using FireBug, I can see that jquery.rte.js Line
>> > 44 is failing (designMode something or other). I think the broken pipe
>> > is because there are too many requests (because rte.css gets requested
>> > non stop). It doesn't seem to happen with Firefox 3.0, and I haven't
>> > tried with anything else yet, but maybe it's just Firefox 2?
>> >
>> > Sorry about the spam.
>> > Dan
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > Dev-flock mailing list
>> > Dev-flock at mit.edu
>> > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/dev-flock
>> >
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From dan at thoughtandmemory.org  Thu Dec  6 13:47:39 2007
From: dan at thoughtandmemory.org (dan@thoughtandmemory.org)
Date: Thu,  6 Dec 2007 13:47:39 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Dev-flock] r446 - in huginmunin/trunk/web/hm: . app/templates/node
	app/views
Message-ID: <20071206184739.2ADD275A70@thoughtandmemory.org>

 r499 at insignificant:  dan | 2007-12-06 13:33:24 -0500
 Change behavior_add.html to use a select input for 'dimension'.
 Hardcoded options for 'dimension' select input.  Later we'll make this dynamic, but not before Friday.
 Fixed views.main.add_new_behavior
 


Modified:
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/app/templates/node/behavior_add.html
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/app/views/main.py


From dan at thoughtandmemory.org  Thu Dec  6 13:47:47 2007
From: dan at thoughtandmemory.org (dan@thoughtandmemory.org)
Date: Thu,  6 Dec 2007 13:47:47 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Dev-flock] r448 - in huginmunin/trunk/web/hm: . app/media/js
	app/templates
Message-ID: <20071206184747.EAF7975A75@thoughtandmemory.org>

 r501 at insignificant:  dan | 2007-12-06 13:47:14 -0500
 Added preliminary support for client-side AJAX-enabled default context processors to parallel settings.TEMPLATE_CONTEXT_PROCESSORS.  Won't happen before Friday, though.
 
 It does raise some problems I ran into and then avoided earlier: I think we need to add another callback step in the client-side AJAX pattern.
 
 1. make request (e.g. submit form or click link)
 2. tell Template to fetch the necessary template and then render it
 3. while rendering template, potentially ping the server to grab updated or additional data
 4. inject rendered HTML into DOM
 
 If we always have the template and data beforehand, we don't need the middle two steps, (and that's how it will be Friday) but I'm not sure we'll always have that...?
 


Added:
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/app/media/js/context.js
Modified:
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/app/media/js/json_template.js
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/app/media/js/settings.js
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/app/templates/base.html


From dan at thoughtandmemory.org  Thu Dec  6 13:47:43 2007
From: dan at thoughtandmemory.org (dan@thoughtandmemory.org)
Date: Thu,  6 Dec 2007 13:47:43 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Dev-flock] r447 - in huginmunin/trunk/web/hm: . app/lib
Message-ID: <20071206184743.7A08775A71@thoughtandmemory.org>

 r500 at insignificant:  dan | 2007-12-06 13:37:43 -0500
 Added app/lib/context.py and added 'app.lib.context.defaults' to settings.TEMPLATE_CONTEXT_PROCESSORS.
 


Added:
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/app/lib/context.py
Modified:
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/settings.py


From eggar at thoughtandmemory.org  Thu Dec  6 18:33:15 2007
From: eggar at thoughtandmemory.org (eggar@thoughtandmemory.org)
Date: Thu,  6 Dec 2007 18:33:15 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Dev-flock] r449 - in huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/app: media/js
	templates/node
Message-ID: <20071206233315.BBE3A75A70@thoughtandmemory.org>

fixed show_responses


Modified:
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/app/media/js/arguments.js
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/app/media/js/behavior.js
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/app/templates/node/node_info.html


From eggar at thoughtandmemory.org  Thu Dec  6 18:34:54 2007
From: eggar at thoughtandmemory.org (eggar@thoughtandmemory.org)
Date: Thu,  6 Dec 2007 18:34:54 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Dev-flock] r450 - huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/app/media/js
Message-ID: <20071206233454.3C86875A70@thoughtandmemory.org>

ok, now its fixed


Modified:
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/app/media/js/behavior.js


From eggar at thoughtandmemory.org  Thu Dec  6 18:44:09 2007
From: eggar at thoughtandmemory.org (eggar@thoughtandmemory.org)
Date: Thu,  6 Dec 2007 18:44:09 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Dev-flock] r451 - huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/app/media/js
Message-ID: <20071206234409.0DA1675A70@thoughtandmemory.org>

moved some stuff around


Modified:
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/app/media/js/arguments.js
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/app/media/js/behavior.js


From eggar at hotmail.com  Thu Dec  6 18:42:05 2007
From: eggar at hotmail.com (Mike Eggar)
Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2007 23:42:05 +0000
Subject: [Dev-flock] TODO list
In-Reply-To: <475844D1.4080803@mit.edu>
References: <47563C7C.90707@mit.edu>
	<c570b9dc0712042204k3cc2cc87t240d9bca508ed973@mail.gmail.com>
	<BAY142-W429A786AF660D3F7C7454AB96F0@phx.gbl>
	<475844D1.4080803@mit.edu>
Message-ID: <BAY142-W24FD9A58566564840B2597B96F0@phx.gbl>


That's going to help a lot, thanks Dan

> Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2007 13:52:01 -0500
> From: danring at MIT.EDU
> To: eggar at hotmail.com; dev-flock at mit.edu
> Subject: Re: [Dev-flock] TODO list
> 
> What error was it giving you?  In general, if you're having trouble
> adding entries to the database, you'll get better error descriptions
> from the shell than from AJAX calls:
> ./manage.py shell
> from db.models import *
> b = Behavior(label="test")
> b.save()
> # throws an exception:
> OperationalError: (1048, "Column 'dimension_id' cannot be null")
> 
> Both dimension_id and node_id must be provided.  Note that the form
> field for "dimension" is a text field, but behaviors require a
> dimension_id referencing a Dimension object.  (I suspect that was the
> problem you were having, Mike?)  We can either create a dimension with
> whatever text the user gives, and then use that id, or we can provide a
> list of existing dimensions.  We should do the latter for now.
> 
> Anyway, the commit should fix behavior_add for now.
> 
> Dan
> 
> 
> Mike Eggar wrote:
> > I can add the drop-down for dimension when you add a behavior, the code
> > won't be pretty but it'll work for friday, and I'll fix it up
> > design-wise over the weekend. 
> > 
> > Dan, mabye you can help me out with adding a behavior, (add_new_behavior
> > in main.py), I've tried messing with the Behavior model, and every
> > insert configuration I can think of.
> > 
> > Mike
> > 
> > 
> >> Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2007 01:04:59 -0500
> >> From: lucy at thoughtandmemory.org
> >> To: danring at mit.edu; dev-flock at mit.edu
> >> Subject: Re: [Dev-flock] TODO list
> >>
> >> Ok.
> >>
> >> The ratings and evaluations are definitely higher priority than rich
> >> text editing. We can remove that feature for the launch until we get
> >> the bug fixed.
> >>
> >> ps - revision spam is a beautiful sight indeed
> >>
> >> On Dec 5, 2007 12:51 AM, Daniel Ring <danring at mit.edu> wrote:
> >> > I'm planning to work on ratings (obviously) and evaluations from the
> >> > TODO list first.
> >> >
> >> > About that Add Argument -> Add Behavior bug - the bug has something to
> >> > do with jquery.rte... using FireBug, I can see that jquery.rte.js Line
> >> > 44 is failing (designMode something or other). I think the broken pipe
> >> > is because there are too many requests (because rte.css gets requested
> >> > non stop). It doesn't seem to happen with Firefox 3.0, and I haven't
> >> > tried with anything else yet, but maybe it's just Firefox 2?
> >> >
> >> > Sorry about the spam.
> >> > Dan
> >> > _______________________________________________
> >> > Dev-flock mailing list
> >> > Dev-flock at mit.edu
> >> > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/dev-flock
> >> >
> >> _______________________________________________
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> >> Dev-flock at mit.edu
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From eggar at thoughtandmemory.org  Thu Dec  6 20:00:14 2007
From: eggar at thoughtandmemory.org (eggar@thoughtandmemory.org)
Date: Thu,  6 Dec 2007 20:00:14 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Dev-flock] r452 - in huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/app: media/js
	templates/node
Message-ID: <20071207010014.4524E75A70@thoughtandmemory.org>



Modified:
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/app/media/js/arguments.js
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/app/templates/node/argument.html


From eggar at hotmail.com  Thu Dec  6 20:21:57 2007
From: eggar at hotmail.com (Mike Eggar)
Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2007 01:21:57 +0000
Subject: [Dev-flock] argument evaluation
Message-ID: <BAY142-W170CAB19E64C6007D3F1C2B9680@phx.gbl>


so negative argument evaluation wont work by adding a new rating with score=-1 because it has to be between 0-10.   Is evaluation supposed to add a new rating object or is there another way to do it?

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From eggar at thoughtandmemory.org  Thu Dec  6 20:26:53 2007
From: eggar at thoughtandmemory.org (eggar@thoughtandmemory.org)
Date: Thu,  6 Dec 2007 20:26:53 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Dev-flock] r453 - huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/app/media/js
Message-ID: <20071207012653.7FB5D75A70@thoughtandmemory.org>

+/- works using score = 0 for negative evaluation, score = 10 for 
positive eval,
that should give a decent aggregate rating for now?


Modified:
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/app/media/js/arguments.js


From lucy at thoughtandmemory.org  Thu Dec  6 20:43:34 2007
From: lucy at thoughtandmemory.org (Lucy Mendel)
Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2007 20:43:34 -0500
Subject: [Dev-flock] argument evaluation
In-Reply-To: <BAY142-W170CAB19E64C6007D3F1C2B9680@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY142-W170CAB19E64C6007D3F1C2B9680@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <c570b9dc0712061743j2856c586v88f84c0fc5f9cdd9@mail.gmail.com>

Hmm. Ratings and evaluations are different. An evaluation is supposed
to effect a user's status points, which can range across negative and
positive numbers. I remember being unable to find evaluations in the
epydocs--- I bet Dan has the answer, though!


On Dec 6, 2007 8:21 PM, Mike Eggar <eggar at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>  so negative argument evaluation wont work by adding a new rating with
> score=-1 because it has to be between 0-10.   Is evaluation supposed to add
> a new rating object or is there another way to do it?
>
> Mike
>
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From lucy at thoughtandmemory.org  Thu Dec  6 21:28:43 2007
From: lucy at thoughtandmemory.org (lucy@thoughtandmemory.org)
Date: Thu,  6 Dec 2007 21:28:43 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Dev-flock] r454 - huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/app/media/flash
Message-ID: <20071207022843.DB6AF75A70@thoughtandmemory.org>

flash intro files

Added:
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/app/media/flash/CornerIntro1.swf
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/app/media/flash/CornerIntro2.swf
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/app/media/flash/CornerIntro3.swf


From eggar at hotmail.com  Thu Dec  6 21:35:54 2007
From: eggar at hotmail.com (Mike Eggar)
Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2007 02:35:54 +0000
Subject: [Dev-flock] argument evaluation
In-Reply-To: <c570b9dc0712061743j2856c586v88f84c0fc5f9cdd9@mail.gmail.com>
References: <BAY142-W170CAB19E64C6007D3F1C2B9680@phx.gbl>
	<c570b9dc0712061743j2856c586v88f84c0fc5f9cdd9@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BAY142-W2416826312C9D0729F8867B9680@phx.gbl>


might want to add userID foreign key to Argument model?

> Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2007 20:43:34 -0500
> From: lucy at thoughtandmemory.org
> To: eggar at hotmail.com
> Subject: Re: [Dev-flock] argument evaluation
> CC: dev-flock at mit.edu
> 
> Hmm. Ratings and evaluations are different. An evaluation is supposed
> to effect a user's status points, which can range across negative and
> positive numbers. I remember being unable to find evaluations in the
> epydocs--- I bet Dan has the answer, though!
> 
> 
> On Dec 6, 2007 8:21 PM, Mike Eggar <eggar at hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >  so negative argument evaluation wont work by adding a new rating with
> > score=-1 because it has to be between 0-10.   Is evaluation supposed to add
> > a new rating object or is there another way to do it?
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > ________________________________
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From lucy at thoughtandmemory.org  Thu Dec  6 22:09:23 2007
From: lucy at thoughtandmemory.org (lucy@thoughtandmemory.org)
Date: Thu,  6 Dec 2007 22:09:23 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Dev-flock] r455 - in huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/app: templates
	templates/account templates/intro views
Message-ID: <20071207030923.7C55675A70@thoughtandmemory.org>

intro flash hooked up. /Main/intro

Modified:
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/app/templates/account/login.html
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/app/templates/intro/page.html
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/app/templates/navigate.html
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/app/views/main.py
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/app/views/main_urls.py


From eggar at hotmail.com  Thu Dec  6 23:50:32 2007
From: eggar at hotmail.com (Mike Eggar)
Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2007 04:50:32 +0000
Subject: [Dev-flock] argument evaluation
In-Reply-To: <c570b9dc0712061743j2856c586v88f84c0fc5f9cdd9@mail.gmail.com>
References: <BAY142-W170CAB19E64C6007D3F1C2B9680@phx.gbl>
	<c570b9dc0712061743j2856c586v88f84c0fc5f9cdd9@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BAY142-W7F2386F18F236860CF8A1B9680@phx.gbl>


Probably can't get evaluations working properly by friday, been trying something like this:

    user = Action.objects.get(item_type='18', item_id=request['argument_id']).user
    user = UserExtended(user)
    user.status = user.status + score




> Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2007 20:43:34 -0500
> From: lucy at thoughtandmemory.org
> To: eggar at hotmail.com
> Subject: Re: [Dev-flock] argument evaluation
> CC: dev-flock at mit.edu
> 
> Hmm. Ratings and evaluations are different. An evaluation is supposed
> to effect a user's status points, which can range across negative and
> positive numbers. I remember being unable to find evaluations in the
> epydocs--- I bet Dan has the answer, though!
> 
> 
> On Dec 6, 2007 8:21 PM, Mike Eggar <eggar at hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >  so negative argument evaluation wont work by adding a new rating with
> > score=-1 because it has to be between 0-10.   Is evaluation supposed to add
> > a new rating object or is there another way to do it?
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > ________________________________
> > You keep typing, we keep giving. Download Messenger and join the i'm
> > Initiative now. Join in!
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From danring at MIT.EDU  Fri Dec  7 02:01:04 2007
From: danring at MIT.EDU (Daniel Ring)
Date: Fri, 07 Dec 2007 02:01:04 -0500
Subject: [Dev-flock] argument evaluation
In-Reply-To: <BAY142-W7F2386F18F236860CF8A1B9680@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY142-W170CAB19E64C6007D3F1C2B9680@phx.gbl>	<c570b9dc0712061743j2856c586v88f84c0fc5f9cdd9@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <4758EFB0.7060401@mit.edu>

Hey,
Sorry about the confusion.  Limits on ratings for the various objects
are specified in db/ratings.py - I changed the range to [-1,1] so now
argument evaluations will work (I also changed the code in
main.py....we'll see who wins the svk smerge contest.)
Also, you shouldn't need to reference UserExtended explicitly, use
'user.profile' instead.
Also, Arguments don't have a userID foreign key because anytime an
object is created in the database, an Action object is automagically
created storing the user, time, and created object.  This allows us to
(eventually) do cool complex queries on user actions
(sorta-kinda-facebook-style feeds).
You can still retrieve the user and time via object.user and
object.time, but you can't set it that way (Action objects are immutable).
Dan

Mike Eggar wrote:
> Probably can't get evaluations working properly by friday, been trying
> something like this:
> 
>     user = Action.objects.get(item_type='18',
> item_id=request['argument_id']).user
>     user = UserExtended(user)
>     user.status = user.status + score
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2007 20:43:34 -0500
>> From: lucy at thoughtandmemory.org
>> To: eggar at hotmail.com
>> Subject: Re: [Dev-flock] argument evaluation
>> CC: dev-flock at mit.edu
>>
>> Hmm. Ratings and evaluations are different. An evaluation is supposed
>> to effect a user's status points, which can range across negative and
>> positive numbers. I remember being unable to find evaluations in the
>> epydocs--- I bet Dan has the answer, though!
>>
>>
>> On Dec 6, 2007 8:21 PM, Mike Eggar <eggar at hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > so negative argument evaluation wont work by adding a new rating with
>> > score=-1 because it has to be between 0-10. Is evaluation supposed
> to add
>> > a new rating object or is there another way to do it?
>> >
>> > Mike
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From dan at thoughtandmemory.org  Fri Dec  7 02:02:06 2007
From: dan at thoughtandmemory.org (dan@thoughtandmemory.org)
Date: Fri,  7 Dec 2007 02:02:06 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Dev-flock] r460 - in huginmunin/trunk/web/hm: . db db/calculations
Message-ID: <20071207070206.70C4075A77@thoughtandmemory.org>

 r509 at insignificant:  dan | 2007-12-06 20:35:25 -0500
 Split calculations into their own module at db.calculations
 Changed acceptable score range for argument ratings to -1,0,1
 


Added:
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/db/calculations/
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/db/calculations/__init__.py
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/db/calculations/mixins.py
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/db/calculations/ratings.py
Modified:
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/db/rating.py


From dan at thoughtandmemory.org  Fri Dec  7 02:02:01 2007
From: dan at thoughtandmemory.org (dan@thoughtandmemory.org)
Date: Fri,  7 Dec 2007 02:02:01 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Dev-flock] r458 - in huginmunin/trunk/web/hm: . app/lib
Message-ID: <20071207070201.583C875A75@thoughtandmemory.org>

 r507 at insignificant:  dan | 2007-12-06 20:25:29 -0500
 Added True, False, and None to default context variables.


Modified:
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/app/lib/context.py


From dan at thoughtandmemory.org  Fri Dec  7 02:02:08 2007
From: dan at thoughtandmemory.org (dan@thoughtandmemory.org)
Date: Fri,  7 Dec 2007 02:02:08 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Dev-flock] r461 - in huginmunin/trunk/web/hm: . app/templates/test
	app/views
Message-ID: <20071207070208.CFA2F75A77@thoughtandmemory.org>

 r510 at insignificant:  dan | 2007-12-06 20:41:59 -0500
 Added beginnings of a 'case' tag test case.  Then got distracted.


Added:
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/app/templates/test/case.html
Modified:
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/app/views/test.py


From dan at thoughtandmemory.org  Fri Dec  7 02:04:57 2007
From: dan at thoughtandmemory.org (dan@thoughtandmemory.org)
Date: Fri,  7 Dec 2007 02:04:57 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Dev-flock] r465 - in huginmunin/trunk/web/hm: . db db/calculations
Message-ID: <20071207070457.9480B75A76@thoughtandmemory.org>

 r514 at insignificant:  dan | 2007-12-06 22:07:14 -0500
 Fixed some bugs with ratings calculations; added argument rating sums; added 'rating_total' and 'rating_sum' mixins to Argument object.


Modified:
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/db/calculations/mixins.py
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/db/calculations/ratings.py
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/db/models.py


From dan at thoughtandmemory.org  Fri Dec  7 02:04:52 2007
From: dan at thoughtandmemory.org (dan@thoughtandmemory.org)
Date: Fri,  7 Dec 2007 02:04:52 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Dev-flock] r463 - in huginmunin/trunk/web/hm: . app/templates/user
Message-ID: <20071207070452.E455B75A71@thoughtandmemory.org>

 r512 at insignificant:  dan | 2007-12-06 20:43:57 -0500
 Change the user impact box to use the recently added tags to report the most recent actions performed by a user.  It doesn't yet show impact, but it's not empty anymore.


Modified:
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/app/templates/user/impact.html


From dan at thoughtandmemory.org  Fri Dec  7 02:04:59 2007
From: dan at thoughtandmemory.org (dan@thoughtandmemory.org)
Date: Fri,  7 Dec 2007 02:04:59 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Dev-flock] r466 - in huginmunin/trunk/web/hm: . app/views
Message-ID: <20071207070459.A62D175A77@thoughtandmemory.org>

 r515 at insignificant:  dan | 2007-12-06 22:09:12 -0500
 Changed one get_json call to not get '*' from the 'user' object - this returns the hashed password and so on, which we probably don't want.
 Added 'rating_totals' to get_args get_json call.


Modified:
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/app/views/main.py


From dan at thoughtandmemory.org  Fri Dec  7 02:04:55 2007
From: dan at thoughtandmemory.org (dan@thoughtandmemory.org)
Date: Fri,  7 Dec 2007 02:04:55 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Dev-flock] r464 - in huginmunin/trunk/web/hm: . app/views
Message-ID: <20071207070455.13D2275A75@thoughtandmemory.org>

 r513 at insignificant:  dan | 2007-12-06 20:44:19 -0500
 Argument evaluations work now.


Modified:
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/app/views/main.py


From dan at thoughtandmemory.org  Fri Dec  7 02:05:26 2007
From: dan at thoughtandmemory.org (dan@thoughtandmemory.org)
Date: Fri,  7 Dec 2007 02:05:26 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Dev-flock] r470 - in huginmunin/trunk/web/hm: . app/lib/tags
Message-ID: <20071207070526.21FCB75A75@thoughtandmemory.org>

 r519 at insignificant:  dan | 2007-12-06 22:17:08 -0500
 Added 'order' template filter, so now you can say "user.profile.actions|order:"-time"|limit:10" ... yay!  Another Django abstraction bites the dust.  (Don't abuse it.)


Modified:
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/app/lib/tags/flow.py


From dan at thoughtandmemory.org  Fri Dec  7 02:05:21 2007
From: dan at thoughtandmemory.org (dan@thoughtandmemory.org)
Date: Fri,  7 Dec 2007 02:05:21 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Dev-flock] r468 - in huginmunin/trunk/web/hm: . app/media/js
Message-ID: <20071207070521.94F1875A76@thoughtandmemory.org>

 r517 at insignificant:  dan | 2007-12-06 22:12:40 -0500
 Took out "this is broken" comment since it works now.  Also remove quotes from "-1".


Modified:
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/app/media/js/arguments.js


From dan at thoughtandmemory.org  Fri Dec  7 02:05:34 2007
From: dan at thoughtandmemory.org (dan@thoughtandmemory.org)
Date: Fri,  7 Dec 2007 02:05:34 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Dev-flock] r474 - in huginmunin/trunk/web/hm: . env/dan
Message-ID: <20071207070534.4DD5C75A79@thoughtandmemory.org>

 r523 at insignificant:  dan | 2007-12-06 22:47:27 -0500
 Changed my settings.


Modified:
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/env/dan/settings.py


From dan at thoughtandmemory.org  Fri Dec  7 02:05:01 2007
From: dan at thoughtandmemory.org (dan@thoughtandmemory.org)
Date: Fri,  7 Dec 2007 02:05:01 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Dev-flock] r467 - in huginmunin/trunk/web/hm: . app/templates/node
Message-ID: <20071207070502.0183D75A78@thoughtandmemory.org>

 r516 at insignificant:  dan | 2007-12-06 22:10:23 -0500
 Added (+6 -2) evaluation reporting to argument template.


Modified:
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/app/templates/node/argument.html


From dan at thoughtandmemory.org  Fri Dec  7 02:05:30 2007
From: dan at thoughtandmemory.org (dan@thoughtandmemory.org)
Date: Fri,  7 Dec 2007 02:05:30 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Dev-flock] r472 - in huginmunin/trunk/web/hm: . app/lib/tags
Message-ID: <20071207070530.4CCCE75A76@thoughtandmemory.org>

 r521 at insignificant:  dan | 2007-12-06 22:44:46 -0500
 Started to add a new tag.  Then stopped.


Modified:
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/app/lib/tags/script.py


From dan at thoughtandmemory.org  Fri Dec  7 02:05:28 2007
From: dan at thoughtandmemory.org (dan@thoughtandmemory.org)
Date: Fri,  7 Dec 2007 02:05:28 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Dev-flock] r471 - in huginmunin/trunk/web/hm: . app/templates/user
Message-ID: <20071207070528.336CB75A75@thoughtandmemory.org>

 r520 at insignificant:  dan | 2007-12-06 22:19:13 -0500
 Updated impact pane to use new order filter.


Modified:
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/app/templates/user/impact.html


From dan at thoughtandmemory.org  Fri Dec  7 02:06:02 2007
From: dan at thoughtandmemory.org (dan@thoughtandmemory.org)
Date: Fri,  7 Dec 2007 02:06:02 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Dev-flock] r475 - in huginmunin/trunk/web/hm: . app/media/js
Message-ID: <20071207070602.C22CD75A70@thoughtandmemory.org>



Modified:
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/app/media/js/arguments.js


From dan at thoughtandmemory.org  Fri Dec  7 02:05:32 2007
From: dan at thoughtandmemory.org (dan@thoughtandmemory.org)
Date: Fri,  7 Dec 2007 02:05:32 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Dev-flock] r473 - in huginmunin/trunk/web/hm: . db/calculations
Message-ID: <20071207070532.4300F75A77@thoughtandmemory.org>

 r522 at insignificant:  dan | 2007-12-06 22:47:06 -0500
 Don't let the ratings calculation throw an exception when it finds a loop - just ignore it.


Modified:
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/db/calculations/ratings.py


From dan at thoughtandmemory.org  Fri Dec  7 02:02:03 2007
From: dan at thoughtandmemory.org (dan@thoughtandmemory.org)
Date: Fri,  7 Dec 2007 02:02:03 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Dev-flock] r459 - in huginmunin/trunk/web/hm: . app/lib/tags
Message-ID: <20071207070203.6BD0875A76@thoughtandmemory.org>

 r508 at insignificant:  dan | 2007-12-06 20:27:09 -0500
 Added 'flow.py' containing a 'case...when...else' template tag.
 Also added several abstraction-shattering template filters.
 Neither the case tag nor the filters work on json-side yet, so don't use them on any template rendered by the client.


Added:
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/app/lib/tags/flow.py
Modified:
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/


From dan at thoughtandmemory.org  Fri Dec  7 02:05:23 2007
From: dan at thoughtandmemory.org (dan@thoughtandmemory.org)
Date: Fri,  7 Dec 2007 02:05:23 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Dev-flock] r469 - in huginmunin/trunk/web/hm: . app/media/js
Message-ID: <20071207070523.B331675A71@thoughtandmemory.org>

 r518 at insignificant:  dan | 2007-12-06 22:14:23 -0500
 Updated 'get' function to convert attributes matching /^\d+/ so it will look for indexes in arrays now.


Modified:
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/app/media/js/json_template.js


From dan at thoughtandmemory.org  Fri Dec  7 02:04:50 2007
From: dan at thoughtandmemory.org (dan@thoughtandmemory.org)
Date: Fri,  7 Dec 2007 02:04:50 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Dev-flock] r462 - in huginmunin/trunk/web/hm: . app/views
Message-ID: <20071207070450.A633775A70@thoughtandmemory.org>

 r511 at insignificant:  dan | 2007-12-06 20:42:45 -0500
 Too many spaces, it made me twitch.


Modified:
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/app/views/main_urls.py


From dan at thoughtandmemory.org  Fri Dec  7 02:01:56 2007
From: dan at thoughtandmemory.org (dan@thoughtandmemory.org)
Date: Fri,  7 Dec 2007 02:01:56 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Dev-flock] r456 - in huginmunin/trunk/web/hm: . app/lib/tags
Message-ID: <20071207070156.9AC7775A70@thoughtandmemory.org>

 r505 at insignificant:  dan | 2007-12-06 19:20:58 -0500
 Added 'let' template tag - like 'withmany' but doesn't change the context and thus has no closing tag.


Modified:
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/app/lib/tags/vars.py


From dan at thoughtandmemory.org  Fri Dec  7 02:52:04 2007
From: dan at thoughtandmemory.org (dan@thoughtandmemory.org)
Date: Fri,  7 Dec 2007 02:52:04 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Dev-flock] r478 - in huginmunin/trunk/web/hm: . app/templates/test
	app/views
Message-ID: <20071207075204.49D8275A75@thoughtandmemory.org>

 r554 at insignificant:  dan | 2007-12-07 02:51:52 -0500
 Added test/node_ratings?node_id=?
 Shows simple node inheritance aggregations, and based on dimension (note: -1 means no one has rated yet under than dimension.)


Added:
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/app/templates/test/node_ratings.html
Modified:
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/app/views/test.py
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/app/views/test_urls.py


From dan at thoughtandmemory.org  Fri Dec  7 02:52:01 2007
From: dan at thoughtandmemory.org (dan@thoughtandmemory.org)
Date: Fri,  7 Dec 2007 02:52:01 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Dev-flock] r477 - in huginmunin/trunk/web/hm: . app/lib/tags
Message-ID: <20071207075201.A625775A71@thoughtandmemory.org>

 r553 at insignificant:  dan | 2007-12-07 02:50:00 -0500
 Added 'fn' filter...


Modified:
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/app/lib/tags/flow.py


From dan at thoughtandmemory.org  Fri Dec  7 02:51:59 2007
From: dan at thoughtandmemory.org (dan@thoughtandmemory.org)
Date: Fri,  7 Dec 2007 02:51:59 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Dev-flock] r476 - in huginmunin/trunk/web/hm: . app/media/js
Message-ID: <20071207075159.3C4B075A70@thoughtandmemory.org>

 r552 at insignificant:  dan | 2007-12-07 02:07:02 -0500
 Changed eval-minus to -1, eval-plus to +1


Modified:
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/app/media/js/arguments.js


From dan at thoughtandmemory.org  Fri Dec  7 02:01:59 2007
From: dan at thoughtandmemory.org (dan@thoughtandmemory.org)
Date: Fri,  7 Dec 2007 02:01:59 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Dev-flock] r457 - in huginmunin/trunk/web/hm: . app/lib
	app/media/js
Message-ID: <20071207070159.2D6DC75A71@thoughtandmemory.org>

 r506 at insignificant:  dan | 2007-12-06 19:26:53 -0500
 Added 'let' template tag to json_template.py and json_template.js


Modified:
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/app/lib/json_template.py
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/app/media/js/json_template.js


From eggar at thoughtandmemory.org  Fri Dec  7 20:03:55 2007
From: eggar at thoughtandmemory.org (eggar@thoughtandmemory.org)
Date: Fri,  7 Dec 2007 20:03:55 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Dev-flock] r479 - huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/app/views
Message-ID: <20071208010355.9A26A75A70@thoughtandmemory.org>

arg evaluation now updating user status by +/-1 for now


Modified:
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/app/views/main.py


From dan at thoughtandmemory.org  Sun Dec  9 00:25:10 2007
From: dan at thoughtandmemory.org (dan@thoughtandmemory.org)
Date: Sun,  9 Dec 2007 00:25:10 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Dev-flock] r481 - in huginmunin/trunk/web/hm: . app/templates
Message-ID: <20071209052510.A55BA75A71@thoughtandmemory.org>

 r561 at insignificant:  dan | 2007-12-08 23:59:20 -0500
 Rearranged script tags in base.html so jQuery would load before anything else, since it's external and has no dependencies.  Also noted TaM framework vs. page-specific javascripts.


Modified:
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/app/templates/base.html


From dan at thoughtandmemory.org  Sun Dec  9 00:25:16 2007
From: dan at thoughtandmemory.org (dan@thoughtandmemory.org)
Date: Sun,  9 Dec 2007 00:25:16 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Dev-flock] r483 - in huginmunin/trunk/web/hm: . app/templates/test
Message-ID: <20071209052516.94B2975A75@thoughtandmemory.org>

 r563 at insignificant:  dan | 2007-12-09 00:24:31 -0500
 A couple changes while testing render_to.


Modified:
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/app/templates/test/base.html
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/app/templates/test/js_template.html


From dan at thoughtandmemory.org  Sun Dec  9 00:25:08 2007
From: dan at thoughtandmemory.org (dan@thoughtandmemory.org)
Date: Sun,  9 Dec 2007 00:25:08 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Dev-flock] r480 - in huginmunin/trunk/web/hm: . app/media/js
	app/templates
Message-ID: <20071209052508.4FAAB75A70@thoughtandmemory.org>

 r560 at insignificant:  dan | 2007-12-08 23:50:13 -0500
 Removed MochiKit references and base.html script tag.


Modified:
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/app/media/js/main.js
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/app/media/js/utils.js
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/app/templates/base.html


From dan at thoughtandmemory.org  Sun Dec  9 00:25:13 2007
From: dan at thoughtandmemory.org (dan@thoughtandmemory.org)
Date: Sun,  9 Dec 2007 00:25:13 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Dev-flock] r482 - in huginmunin/trunk/web/hm: . app/media/js
Message-ID: <20071209052513.31A6975A71@thoughtandmemory.org>

 r562 at insignificant:  dan | 2007-12-09 00:23:44 -0500
 Added DjangoTemplate#render_to(destination_element, context) which will use jQuery to insert the resulting HTML into the DOM and then run the associated javascripts from the template.


Modified:
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/app/media/js/json_template.js


From dan at thoughtandmemory.org  Sun Dec  9 00:25:18 2007
From: dan at thoughtandmemory.org (dan@thoughtandmemory.org)
Date: Sun,  9 Dec 2007 00:25:18 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Dev-flock] r484 - in huginmunin/trunk/web/hm: . app/views
Message-ID: <20071209052518.D6BFE75A75@thoughtandmemory.org>

 r564 at insignificant:  dan | 2007-12-09 00:24:56 -0500
 Blah, should've been in last commit.


Modified:
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/app/views/test.py


From clay at thoughtandmemory.org  Sat Dec  8 13:28:53 2007
From: clay at thoughtandmemory.org (Clay Ward)
Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2007 13:28:53 -0500
Subject: [Dev-flock] Big collaboration opportunity.
In-Reply-To: <a052895a0712080636h68baa3d6p58e63660abfbdadc@mail.gmail.com>
References: <a052895a0712080636h68baa3d6p58e63660abfbdadc@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <a052895a0712081028u2a30e6dem896801b140ebfea8@mail.gmail.com>

Hey, folks!

I met with Stephane from www.citizensmarket.com yesterday.  They are another
Cambridge based non-profit start up with a mission similar to ours: user
generated social responsibility ratings that can be accessed through cell
phones.  Our tech team pounded some extra hours this week to make sure that
our prototype in progress was at an good stage for that meeting.  I wanted
to make sure to meet with Stephane from a strong position.  He was impressed
by the ambition of our service, by how far we are along, and by the wacky
thoroughness of our promotional materials.

They're behind us in some things and ahead of us in others:

They started their effort as part of a class at the Kennedy School of
Government.  They haven't applied for non profit status yet.  They haven't
started market research.  They don't really understand how SMS text
messaging works.  They don't have a human face to their website.  They don't
aspire to track as detailed a corporate model as we do.  They don't have a
lot of technical work finished.

Stephane works for Oxfam America and understands a lot about the current
state of global efforts by NGOs to get corporations to report on their
socially responsible impacts.  They do have a full Advisory Board.  They
have an interface design which is more intuitive than ours, but which has
less potential to describe (and therefore influence) actual corporate
practice.  They do have a 50 page business plan that Stephane will be
sending me soon.

The most important thing is that they're willing to collaborate.  I went
into the meeting deliberately playing cool because I wanted to let our
interaction evolve naturally (thank for the advice, Ona!)  So it was
Stephane that first brought up how great it would be to collaborate.  We
started talking about a many headed hydra or starfish model for
collaboration.  The general idea being that if we can work together at a
very deep level then we can begin a coalition of similarly minded groups
that share information.  Following are the potential ways that we discussed
collaborating.  I've listed them in order of increasing connectedness.  I
want to make sure that this discussion takes place deliberately and with all
of your blessings.  So please give me your feedback so that I know where our
comfort level with each issue stands.  Then I'll sit back down with him and
discuss possibilities:

We could share:

-Perspective.  This has already been very helpful to me and to Stephane.  We
discussed having a social meeting up between our teams.  We might have more
in common than even our services.

-Links.  Since different users will respond more to our complete and locally
motivated process or their general look at big companies, it might be nice
to be able to give users the choice of which to use.  These links could be
more or less prominent.  They already link to a for profit competitor of
ours that is struggling to survive: http://dotherightthing.com/.

-Gaps in service.  For the moment it looks like the main gap to help each
other fill is data.

-Data.  Sharing our underlying data would be a big win once we're both up
and running.  If we don't make it clear to users that we share data then
anyone that discovers both of our sites may be confused and turned off by
not knowing which site to contribute to.  Certainly we don't want to require
that users must add their data twice.

-Users.  If we get collaborative enough to share a user base then we're are
flirting with becoming the same company or formal coalition.  That's
something to do very carefully.  We don't want to share our user list with
each other unless we are formally associated (otherwise it feels wrong.)

-Legal.  We have the same model, legally.  We'll require the same
assistance.

-Team Coordination.  We're getting a lot more done than they are.  So if we
share team process I want to make sure that it's a shared effort and that
they have a lot to add.          * *

-Specialized Software.  I told him that Delicious Monster is hooking us up
with bar code recognition software from images.

-Front-end Standardization.  Stephane brought my attention to the Global
Reporting Initiate's work to standardize corporate disclosure reports.
Their system of "interests" is similar to our "dimensions" except that their
list is based on GRI's.  The GRI's list is very different from our
user-centered list, but standards are critical to deep collaboration.

-Status Comparisons.  If a user is on both of our sites then it makes sense
that we both give them credit for what they've done on each other's sites.

-Community Organizing.  I'm not sure if they are planning to do as much real
world activism as we are.  But their connections, especially in the
non-profit world, could be really helpful.

-Back-end Development.  As we know, technology is a big hurdle.  They
currently only have one guy who is actively looking at their technology.
But their system is simpler than ours.  We would both benefit from shared
development and a final system that integrates easily.  But it's important
to let this happen naturally.  So I look forward to hearing what our
technologists say when they meet.  If they want to work together then
perhaps we can figure out how to share costs, etc.

-Advisory Board.  They're ahead of us on this one.  So perhaps our formal
alliance could also mean that we share board membership.

-Spending Money.  For example, if and when we get our own SMS gateway then
it would be nice to be able to split the cost with someone.  There will be
other examples down the road.  A delicate topic.

-Earning Money.  They are considering charging users for text message
access.  But if we offer it for free (as we plan to) then that shoots them
in the foot.  Other possibilities that we've both identified are advertising
(which our idea to add ratings to will make palatable), consulting with
industry, and donations.  They aren't not applying for grants now (good, it
would look bad if grants got applications from both of us.)  We didn't
really approach the idea of sharing our revenue streams.

-Leadership and Board Structure.  Depending on how negotiates develop we may
want to rethink how we operate.  Will we adopt the same mission?  Will we
remain entirely separate?  Will we found a coalition that both of us are a
part of? I think that Stephane wants to continue to operate a separate
project.  I know that I'm committed to leading our effort until it stands on
its own in a few years.  I think that we want to be very careful to make
sure that there are bright lines around our areas of resonsibility.  If it
looks like the best thing is to functionally merge then redundant leadership
will not be helpful.  In that case, perhaps Stephane would be willing to
lead our coalition building efforts while I continue to lead from our
current mission statement.

OK, so that's a big list and a lot to chew on.

Let me know what you think!

-clay

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From: analuciaby at gmail.com (analucia berry)
Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 01:21:20 -0500
Subject: [Dev-flock] Big collaboration opportunity.
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Hey everyone

My first reaction is that it would be really good to share users (and
by extension, data), at least in the beginning. More users from the
get go makes the site seem more legitimate to a person who is
considering whether or not to join. Of course if we go this route it
should be very clear to people that their content will be shared with
Citizens' Market and vice versa. And maybe the users should be labeled
differently or marked somehow depending on which site they joined.

I think users, data and status comparisons are all so closely
intertwined that if you want to share one of those, you have to share
all three.

ALSO

if you are on myspace, add Thought And Memory as your friend:
www.myspace.com/buyitlikeyoumeanit

and/or if you are on facebook, become a fan of T&M:
http://mit.facebook.com/profile.php?id=6210188038


thanks!
*chia


On Dec 8, 2007 1:28 PM, Clay Ward <clay at thoughtandmemory.org> wrote:
> Hey, folks!
>
>  I met with Stephane from www.citizensmarket.com yesterday.  They are
> another Cambridge based non-profit start up with a mission similar to ours:
> user generated social responsibility ratings that can be accessed through
> cell phones.  Our tech team pounded some extra hours this week to make sure
> that our prototype in progress was at an good stage for that meeting.  I
> wanted to make sure to meet with Stephane from a strong position.  He was
> impressed by the ambition of our service, by how far we are along, and by
> the wacky thoroughness of our promotional materials.
>
> They're behind us in some things and ahead of us in others:
>
> They started their effort as part of a class at the Kennedy School of
> Government.  They haven't applied for non profit status yet.  They haven't
> started market research.  They don't really understand how SMS text
> messaging works.  They don't have a human face to their website.  They don't
> aspire to track as detailed a corporate model as we do.  They don't have a
> lot of technical work finished.
>
> Stephane works for Oxfam America and understands a lot about the current
> state of global efforts by NGOs to get corporations to report on their
> socially responsible impacts.  They do have a full Advisory Board.  They
> have an interface design which is more intuitive than ours, but which has
> less potential to describe (and therefore influence) actual corporate
> practice.  They do have a 50 page business plan that Stephane will be
> sending me soon.
>
> The most important thing is that they're willing to collaborate.  I went
> into the meeting deliberately playing cool because I wanted to let our
> interaction evolve naturally (thank for the advice, Ona!)  So it was
> Stephane that first brought up how great it would be to collaborate.  We
> started talking about a many headed hydra or starfish model for
> collaboration.  The general idea being that if we can work together at a
> very deep level then we can begin a coalition of similarly minded groups
> that share information.  Following are the potential ways that we discussed
> collaborating.  I've listed them in order of increasing connectedness.  I
> want to make sure that this discussion takes place deliberately and with all
> of your blessings.  So please give me your feedback so that I know where our
> comfort level with each issue stands.  Then I'll sit back down with him and
> discuss possibilities:
>
> We could share:
>
> -Perspective.  This has already been very helpful to me and to Stephane.  We
> discussed having a social meeting up between our teams.  We might have more
> in common than even our services.
>
> -Links.  Since different users will respond more to our complete and locally
> motivated process or their general look at big companies, it might be nice
> to be able to give users the choice of which to use.  These links could be
> more or less prominent.  They already link to a for profit competitor of
> ours that is struggling to survive: http://dotherightthing.com/.
>
> -Gaps in service.  For the moment it looks like the main gap to help each
> other fill is data.
>
> -Data.  Sharing our underlying data would be a big win once we're both up
> and running.  If we don't make it clear to users that we share data then
> anyone that discovers both of our sites may be confused and turned off by
> not knowing which site to contribute to.  Certainly we don't want to require
> that users must add their data twice.
>
> -Users.  If we get collaborative enough to share a user base then we're are
> flirting with becoming the same company or formal coalition.  That's
> something to do very carefully.  We don't want to share our user list with
> each other unless we are formally associated (otherwise it feels wrong.)
>
> -Legal.  We have the same model, legally.  We'll require the same
> assistance.
>
> -Team Coordination.  We're getting a lot more done than they are.  So if we
> share team process I want to make sure that it's a shared effort and that
> they have a lot to add.
>
> -Specialized Software.  I told him that Delicious Monster is hooking us up
> with bar code recognition software from images.
>
> -Front-end Standardization.  Stephane brought my attention to the Global
> Reporting Initiate's work to standardize corporate disclosure reports.
> Their system of "interests" is similar to our "dimensions" except that their
> list is based on GRI's.  The GRI's list is very different from our
> user-centered list, but standards are critical to deep collaboration.
>
> -Status Comparisons.  If a user is on both of our sites then it makes sense
> that we both give them credit for what they've done on each other's sites.
>
> -Community Organizing.  I'm not sure if they are planning to do as much real
> world activism as we are.  But their connections, especially in the
> non-profit world, could be really helpful.
>
> -Back-end Development.  As we know, technology is a big hurdle.  They
> currently only have one guy who is actively looking at their technology.
> But their system is simpler than ours.  We would both benefit from shared
> development and a final system that integrates easily.  But it's important
> to let this happen naturally.  So I look forward to hearing what our
> technologists say when they meet.  If they want to work together then
> perhaps we can figure out how to share costs, etc.
>
> -Advisory Board.  They're ahead of us on this one.  So perhaps our formal
> alliance could also mean that we share board membership.
>
> -Spending Money.  For example, if and when we get our own SMS gateway then
> it would be nice to be able to split the cost with someone.  There will be
> other examples down the road.  A delicate topic.
>
> -Earning Money.  They are considering charging users for text message
> access.  But if we offer it for free (as we plan to) then that shoots them
> in the foot.  Other possibilities that we've both identified are advertising
> (which our idea to add ratings to will make palatable), consulting with
> industry, and donations.  They aren't not applying for grants now (good, it
> would look bad if grants got applications from both of us.)  We didn't
> really approach the idea of sharing our revenue streams.
>
> -Leadership and Board Structure.  Depending on how negotiates develop we may
> want to rethink how we operate.  Will we adopt the same mission?  Will we
> remain entirely separate?  Will we found a coalition that both of us are a
> part of? I think that Stephane wants to continue to operate a separate
> project.  I know that I'm committed to leading our effort until it stands on
> its own in a few years.  I think that we want to be very careful to make
> sure that there are bright lines around our areas of resonsibility.  If it
> looks like the best thing is to functionally merge then redundant leadership
> will not be helpful.  In that case, perhaps Stephane would be willing to
> lead our coalition building efforts while I continue to lead from our
> current mission statement.
>
> OK, so that's a big list and a lot to chew on.
>
> Let me know what you think!
>
> -clay
>
>
>
>
>  >
>

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From clay_ward at hotmail.com  Mon Dec 10 15:29:16 2007
From: clay_ward at hotmail.com (Clay Ward)
Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 12:29:16 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Dev-flock] Big collaboration opportunity.
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Hi folks.

I'm placing a spreadsheet that I've compiled it the files area of our
google groups page.  It lays out all of the players in the market area
we inhabit as ThoughtAndMemory.org.  The groups that most closely
resemble our model are listed at the top.  I thought that this
information would be worth each of you having access to now that we're
considering partnering (or competing) with www.citizensmarket.org.  I
feel that this sheet shows that our model is unique in a sea of
halfway competitors.

I've included a list of the organizations that I've actually
contacted.  A couple of the others I have heard rumors about.  So let
me know if you have any questions.  The one wild card is www.taoit.com.
They're working on making "a suite of responsible shopping tools" that
they haven't told me anything about.  So perhaps they'll surprise us.
Since we have an open source collaborative model, any of the
organizations that I've contacted have been able to see our design
process.  So at least we won't be surprising anyone with what we
offer.

Also, I talked with a member of the MIT press today, so there might be
an article about us brewing.

Please let me know what you're thoughts are.  Thanks!

-clay

On Dec 10, 1:21 am, "analucia berry" <analuci... at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hey everyone
>
> My first reaction is that it would be really good to share users (and
> by extension, data), at least in the beginning. More users from the
> get go makes the site seem more legitimate to a person who is
> considering whether or not to join. Of course if we go this route it
> should be very clear to people that their content will be shared with
> Citizens' Market and vice versa. And maybe the users should be labeled
> differently or marked somehow depending on which site they joined.
>
> I think users, data and status comparisons are all so closely
> intertwined that if you want to share one of those, you have to share
> all three.
>
> ALSO
>
> if you are on myspace, add Thought And Memory as your friend:www.myspace.com/buyitlikeyoumeanit
>
> and/or if you are on facebook, become a fan of T&M:http://mit.facebook.com/profile.php?id=6210188038
>
> thanks!
> *chia
>
> On Dec 8, 2007 1:28 PM, Clay Ward <c... at thoughtandmemory.org> wrote:
>
> > Hey, folks!
>
> >  I met with Stephane fromwww.citizensmarket.comyesterday.  They are
> > another Cambridge based non-profit start up with a mission similar to ours:
> > user generated social responsibility ratings that can be accessed through
> > cell phones.  Our tech team pounded some extra hours this week to make sure
> > that our prototype in progress was at an good stage for that meeting.  I
> > wanted to make sure to meet with Stephane from a strong position.  He was
> > impressed by the ambition of our service, by how far we are along, and by
> > the wacky thoroughness of our promotional materials.
>
> > They're behind us in some things and ahead of us in others:
>
> > They started their effort as part of a class at the Kennedy School of
> > Government.  They haven't applied for non profit status yet.  They haven't
> > started market research.  They don't really understand how SMS text
> > messaging works.  They don't have a human face to their website.  They don't
> > aspire to track as detailed a corporate model as we do.  They don't have a
> > lot of technical work finished.
>
> > Stephane works for Oxfam America and understands a lot about the current
> > state of global efforts by NGOs to get corporations to report on their
> > socially responsible impacts.  They do have a full Advisory Board.  They
> > have an interface design which is more intuitive than ours, but which has
> > less potential to describe (and therefore influence) actual corporate
> > practice.  They do have a 50 page business plan that Stephane will be
> > sending me soon.
>
> > The most important thing is that they're willing to collaborate.  I went
> > into the meeting deliberately playing cool because I wanted to let our
> > interaction evolve naturally (thank for the advice, Ona!)  So it was
> > Stephane that first brought up how great it would be to collaborate.  We
> > started talking about a many headed hydra or starfish model for
> > collaboration.  The general idea being that if we can work together at a
> > very deep level then we can begin a coalition of similarly minded groups
> > that share information.  Following are the potential ways that we discussed
> > collaborating.  I've listed them in order of increasing connectedness.  I
> > want to make sure that this discussion takes place deliberately and with all
> > of your blessings.  So please give me your feedback so that I know where our
> > comfort level with each issue stands.  Then I'll sit back down with him and
> > discuss possibilities:
>
> > We could share:
>
> > -Perspective.  This has already been very helpful to me and to Stephane.  We
> > discussed having a social meeting up between our teams.  We might have more
> > in common than even our services.
>
> > -Links.  Since different users will respond more to our complete and locally
> > motivated process or their general look at big companies, it might be nice
> > to be able to give users the choice of which to use.  These links could be
> > more or less prominent.  They already link to a for profit competitor of
> > ours that is struggling to survive:http://dotherightthing.com/.
>
> > -Gaps in service.  For the moment it looks like the main gap to help each
> > other fill is data.
>
> > -Data.  Sharing our underlying data would be a big win once we're both up
> > and running.  If we don't make it clear to users that we share data then
> > anyone that discovers both of our sites may be confused and turned off by
> > not knowing which site to contribute to.  Certainly we don't want to require
> > that users must add their data twice.
>
> > -Users.  If we get collaborative enough to share a user base then we're are
> > flirting with becoming the same company or formal coalition.  That's
> > something to do very carefully.  We don't want to share our user list with
> > each other unless we are formally associated (otherwise it feels wrong.)
>
> > -Legal.  We have the same model, legally.  We'll require the same
> > assistance.
>
> > -Team Coordination.  We're getting a lot more done than they are.  So if we
> > share team process I want to make sure that it's a shared effort and that
> > they have a lot to add.
>
> > -Specialized Software.  I told him that Delicious Monster is hooking us up
> > with bar code recognition software from images.
>
> > -Front-end Standardization.  Stephane brought my attention to the Global
> > Reporting Initiate's work to standardize corporate disclosure reports.
> > Their system of "interests" is similar to our "dimensions" except that their
> > list is based on GRI's.  The GRI's list is very different from our
> > user-centered list, but standards are critical to deep collaboration.
>
> > -Status Comparisons.  If a user is on both of our sites then it makes sense
> > that we both give them credit for what they've done on each other's sites.
>
> > -Community Organizing.  I'm not sure if they are planning to do as much real
> > world activism as we are.  But their connections, especially in the
> > non-profit world, could be really helpful.
>
> > -Back-end Development.  As we know, technology is a big hurdle.  They
> > currently only have one guy who is actively looking at their technology.
> > But their system is simpler than ours.  We would both benefit from shared
> > development and a final system that integrates easily.  But it's important
> > to let this happen naturally.  So I look forward to hearing what our
> > technologists say when they meet.  If they want to work together then
> > perhaps we can figure out how to share costs, etc.
>
> > -Advisory Board.  They're ahead of us on this one.  So perhaps our formal
> > alliance could also mean that we share board membership.
>
> > -Spending Money.  For example, if and when we get our own SMS gateway then
> > it would be nice to be able to split the cost with someone.  There will be
> > other examples down the road.  A delicate topic.
>
> > -Earning Money.  They are considering charging users for text message
> > access.  But if we offer it for free (as we plan to) then that shoots them
> > in the foot.  Other possibilities that we've both identified are advertising
> > (which our idea to add ratings to will make palatable), consulting with
> > industry, and donations.  They aren't not applying for grants now (good, it
> > would look bad if grants got applications from both of us.)  We didn't
> > really approach the idea of sharing our revenue streams.
>
> > -Leadership and Board Structure.  Depending on how negotiates develop we may
> > want to rethink how we operate.  Will we adopt the same mission?  Will we
> > remain entirely separate?  Will we found a coalition that both of us are a
> > part of? I think that Stephane wants to continue to operate a separate
> > project.  I know that I'm committed to leading our effort until it stands on
> > its own in a few years.  I think that we want to be very careful to make
> > sure that there are bright lines around our areas of resonsibility.  If it
> > looks like the best thing is to functionally merge then redundant leadership
> > will not be helpful.  In that case, perhaps Stephane would be willing to
> > lead our coalition building efforts while I continue to lead from our
> > current mission statement.
>
> > OK, so that's a big list and a lot to chew on.
>
> > Let me know what you think!
>
> > -clay
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From lucy at thoughtandmemory.org  Tue Dec 11 20:13:01 2007
From: lucy at thoughtandmemory.org (lucy@thoughtandmemory.org)
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 20:13:01 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Dev-flock] r485 - in huginmunin/trunk/cellphone: . poc
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proof of concept for sms

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From clay at thoughtandmemory.org  Tue Dec 11 22:09:52 2007
From: clay at thoughtandmemory.org (Clay Ward)
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 22:09:52 -0500
Subject: [Dev-flock] Saturday at 2pm release of our prototype!
Message-ID: <a052895a0712111909l7196844s1378bc8d32ce9d2@mail.gmail.com>

Hi guys.

Great work getting things together, guys.  It's great to hear that you're
communicating really well, too.

This isn't an email intended to push you to get work done (that was last
week.)  But I do want to let you know that ThoughtAndMemory's Executive
Board is meeting on Saturday (if either of you are free at 2pm and want to
come then please let me know!)  Lucy and I want to show them the current
prototype.  Whatever state it's at on Saturday, we're going to show it off.

So if there are things that you want to work on for Saturday then that's
awesome.  But no pressure!  (Just try to make sure that it hasn't imploded
at around 2pm on Saturday.)

Also, in mid January we're going to be hosting our first public research
group at an MIT workshop with the sustainability club.  So at that time,
we'll want to offer the best that we can so that we can get good feedback
and research.

woohoo!

-clay
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From: eggar at thoughtandmemory.org (eggar@thoughtandmemory.org)
Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2007 20:14:53 -0500 (EST)
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From eggar at thoughtandmemory.org  Mon Dec 17 20:15:51 2007
From: eggar at thoughtandmemory.org (eggar@thoughtandmemory.org)
Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2007 20:15:51 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Dev-flock] r487 - in huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/app: media/js
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   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/app/templates/node/argument_response.html


From eggar at hotmail.com  Mon Dec 17 20:47:41 2007
From: eggar at hotmail.com (Mike Eggar)
Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 01:47:41 +0000
Subject: [Dev-flock] r487 - in huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/app:
	media/js	templates/node
In-Reply-To: <20071218011551.1F4C775A71@thoughtandmemory.org>
References: <20071218011551.1F4C775A71@thoughtandmemory.org>
Message-ID: <BAY142-W239B04E6B5C8F6E177EDCAB9630@phx.gbl>


I was trying not to commit my settings file with everything else and I think I managed to delete the env directory instead.  

Mike

> To: dev-flock at mit.edu
> From: eggar at thoughtandmemory.org
> Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2007 20:15:51 -0500
> Subject: [Dev-flock] r487 - in huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/app: media/js	templates/node
> 
> whoops
> 
> 
> Modified:
>    huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/app/media/js/arguments.js
>    huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/app/media/js/behavior.js
>    huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/app/media/js/main.js
>    huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/app/templates/node/argument_add.html
>    huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/app/templates/node/argument_response.html
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From clay at thoughtandmemory.org  Wed Dec 19 17:39:01 2007
From: clay at thoughtandmemory.org (Clay Ward)
Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 17:39:01 -0500
Subject: [Dev-flock] Last call on 2007 volunteer projects!
Message-ID: <a052895a0712191439mc834acpbde4a5024e92fd15@mail.gmail.com>

This time of year, when holidays loom smiling overhead I like to duck away
from the shuffle.

So, for a change of pace, why not help our ThoughtAndMemory.org out with one
of the following little things that would really tie up our year together
nicely:

- Tell any last minute givers that they can donate to us on your behalf and
still get a tax break for the year!  Our address is: ThoughtAndMemory.org,
c/o Clay Ward, 17 Bishop Allen Drive, Cambridge, MA, 02139

- Take the polls about what we should research next on our blog.

- Make us your top friend on myspace (we're "buyitlikeyoumeanit" on
myspace.)  Contact your musician friends and ask them to do the same!

- Write a wikipedia article about us or blog about us somewhere else.

- Tell 3 friends about what we're up to.  See if they'd be willing to host a
focus group on our behalf.

- Email me if you want to schedule your own focus or research group some
time in January or February.

- Email me if you'd like to do some market research on our behalf (going to
the store and asking people a series of four simple questions.)

- Let me know when you're free to meet up before the second week in January
(we're going to be holding a research group at MIT at that time.  So it
would be nice to meet in a series of small groups leading up to that event.)

- Let me know if you have any friends or relatives that are on the boards of
foundations that support the kinds of projects that we're working on.

Don't feel like blowing off the holiday preparations?  No worries, we'll
still need your help with a strong showing to start off 2008!

woohoo!

-clay

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From lucy at thoughtandmemory.org  Thu Dec 27 22:27:58 2007
From: lucy at thoughtandmemory.org (lucy@thoughtandmemory.org)
Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2007 22:27:58 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Dev-flock] r488 - huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/app/templates
Message-ID: <20071228032758.CBDFF75A71@thoughtandmemory.org>

browser address bar icon added

Modified:
   huginmunin/trunk/web/hm/app/templates/base.html