From andresmh at media.mit.edu  Thu Mar  6 13:20:25 2008
From: andresmh at media.mit.edu (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Andr=E9s_Monroy-Hern=E1ndez?=)
Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2008 13:20:25 -0500
Subject: [Cidrz] pictures and video needed if possible
Message-ID: <d0a8a7530803061020o3bc12c52k996bf72430d676ff@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Daniel,

Any chance the doctors from Zambia that are coming in a few weeks
could being images of the places and people where the technology will
be deployed? Or do you happen to have some? We would like to have them
to post them on the online portfolio.

Thanks.

-- 
Andr?s



From leoanthonyceli at yahoo.com  Thu Mar  6 13:57:13 2008
From: leoanthonyceli at yahoo.com (Leo Anthony Cell)
Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2008 10:57:13 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Cidrz] Visit from CIDRZ folks
Message-ID: <154244.69082.qm@web38014.mail.mud.yahoo.com>


Hi, Daniel Myung,
         Do we know more about the US trip of the CIDRZ folks? Will they be able to swing by Boston? If not, would it be possible to arrange a tele-conference?
Ta,
Leo


On Mar 6, 2008, at 1:20 PM, "Andr?s Monroy-Hern?ndez" <andresmh at media.mit.edu> wrote:

Hi Daniel,

Any chance the doctors from Zambia that are coming in a few weeks
could being images of the places and people where the technology will
be deployed? Or do you happen to have some? We would like to have them
to post them on the online portfolio.

Thanks.

-- 
Andr?s

_______________________________________________
Cidrz mailing list
Cidrz at mit.edu
http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/cidrz




From dmyung at dimagi.com  Thu Mar  6 16:56:47 2008
From: dmyung at dimagi.com (Daniel Myung)
Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2008 16:56:47 -0500
Subject: [Cidrz] Visit from CIDRZ folks
In-Reply-To: <154244.69082.qm@web38014.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <154244.69082.qm@web38014.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <46fb10300803061356r2cf3d171x766b4364416ad325@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Leo,

I'm awaiting a reply from them, they are stateside right now for their CDC
and DC tour, so I shold have an answer in 24-48 hours....
if it's a negative, then best bet is to get as you said, a teleconference
asap.

dan

On 3/6/08, Leo Anthony Cell <leoanthonyceli at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
> Hi, Daniel Myung,
>          Do we know more about the US trip of the CIDRZ folks? Will they
> be able to swing by Boston? If not, would it be possible to arrange a
> tele-conference?
> Ta,
> Leo
>
>
> On Mar 6, 2008, at 1:20 PM, "Andr?s Monroy-Hern?ndez" <
> andresmh at media.mit.edu> wrote:
>
> Hi Daniel,
>
> Any chance the doctors from Zambia that are coming in a few weeks
> could being images of the places and people where the technology will
> be deployed? Or do you happen to have some? We would like to have them
> to post them on the online portfolio.
>
> Thanks.
>
> --
> Andr?s
>
> _______________________________________________
> Cidrz mailing list
> Cidrz at mit.edu
> http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/cidrz
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Cidrz mailing list
> Cidrz at mit.edu
> http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/cidrz
>



-- 
Daniel Myung
Senior Engineer
Dimagi, Inc  |  One Kendall Square  |  Bldg. 400, 4th Floor  |  Cambridge,
MA 02139
work: (617) 621 8595  |  cell: (617) 645 3236
http://www.dimagi.com/
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From dmyung at dimagi.com  Mon Mar 10 11:10:39 2008
From: dmyung at dimagi.com (Daniel Myung)
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 11:10:39 -0400
Subject: [Cidrz] Visit from CIDRZ folks
In-Reply-To: <46fb10300803061356r2cf3d171x766b4364416ad325@mail.gmail.com>
References: <154244.69082.qm@web38014.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<46fb10300803061356r2cf3d171x766b4364416ad325@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <46fb10300803100810x1e414b94r8f617921686e04d5@mail.gmail.com>

hey all,

are we meeting today, if so what time?

Still awaiting feedback from cidrz folks.  Poked them again recently, so
it's wait and see.

I'm back from some personal travel so I'm backlogged a bit on the
discussions of the past few days.  Will get to them soon.

Dan

On 3/6/08, Daniel Myung <dmyung at dimagi.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Leo,
>
> I'm awaiting a reply from them, they are stateside right now for their CDC
> and DC tour, so I shold have an answer in 24-48 hours....
> if it's a negative, then best bet is to get as you said, a teleconference
> asap.
>
> dan
>
> On 3/6/08, Leo Anthony Cell <leoanthonyceli at yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Hi, Daniel Myung,
> >          Do we know more about the US trip of the CIDRZ folks? Will they
> > be able to swing by Boston? If not, would it be possible to arrange a
> > tele-conference?
> > Ta,
> > Leo
> >
> >
> > On Mar 6, 2008, at 1:20 PM, "Andr?s Monroy-Hern?ndez" <
> > andresmh at media.mit.edu> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Daniel,
> >
> > Any chance the doctors from Zambia that are coming in a few weeks
> > could being images of the places and people where the technology will
> > be deployed? Or do you happen to have some? We would like to have them
> > to post them on the online portfolio.
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > --
> > Andr?s
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Cidrz mailing list
> > Cidrz at mit.edu
> > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/cidrz
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Cidrz mailing list
> > Cidrz at mit.edu
> > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/cidrz
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Daniel Myung
> Senior Engineer
> Dimagi, Inc  |  One Kendall Square  |  Bldg. 400, 4th Floor  |  Cambridge,
> MA 02139
> work: (617) 621 8595  |  cell: (617) 645 3236
> http://www.dimagi.com/




-- 
Daniel Myung
Senior Engineer
Dimagi, Inc  |  One Kendall Square  |  Bldg. 400, 4th Floor  |  Cambridge,
MA 02139
work: (617) 621 8595  |  cell: (617) 645 3236
http://www.dimagi.com/
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From leoanthonyceli at yahoo.com  Mon Mar 10 11:18:54 2008
From: leoanthonyceli at yahoo.com (Leo Anthony Cell)
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 08:18:54 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Cidrz] Visit from CIDRZ folks
Message-ID: <409830.11643.qm@web38001.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Hi, Daniel Myung,
          We are not meeting today. We are meeting on Wednesday at 1:30 PM at Stata cafeteria. We need your help with our needs assessment survey as we will be unable to conduct it in Zambia.
Cheers,
Leo



On Mar 10, 2008, at 11:10 AM, "Daniel Myung" <dmyung at dimagi.com> wrote:

hey all,

are we meeting today, if so what time?  

Still awaiting feedback from cidrz folks.  Poked them again recently, so it's wait and see.

I'm back from some personal travel so I'm backlogged a bit on the discussions of the past few days.  Will get to them soon.

Dan

On 3/6/08, Daniel Myung <dmyung at dimagi.com> wrote:
Hi Leo,

I'm awaiting a reply from them, they are stateside right now for their CDC and DC tour, so I shold have an answer in 24-48 hours....
if it's a negative, then best bet is to get as you said, a teleconference asap.

dan


On 3/6/08, Leo Anthony Cell <leoanthonyceli at yahoo.com> wrote:

Hi, Daniel Myung,
         Do we know more about the US trip of the CIDRZ folks? Will they be able to swing by Boston? If not, would it be possible to arrange a tele-conference?
Ta,
Leo


On Mar 6, 2008, at 1:20 PM, "Andr?s Monroy-Hern?ndez" <andresmh at media.mit.edu> wrote:

Hi Daniel,

Any chance the doctors from Zambia that are coming in a few weeks
could being images of the places and people where the technology will
be deployed? Or do you happen to have some? We would like to have them
to post them on the online portfolio.

Thanks.

--
Andr?s

_______________________________________________
Cidrz mailing list
Cidrz at mit.edu
http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/cidrz


_______________________________________________
Cidrz mailing list
Cidrz at mit.edu
http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/cidrz



-- 
Daniel Myung
Senior Engineer
Dimagi, Inc  |  One Kendall Square  |  Bldg. 400, 4th Floor  |  Cambridge, MA 02139
work: (617) 621 8595  |  cell: (617) 645 3236
http://www.dimagi.com/



-- 
Daniel Myung
Senior Engineer
Dimagi, Inc  |  One Kendall Square  |  Bldg. 400, 4th Floor  |  Cambridge, MA 02139
work: (617) 621 8595  |  cell: (617) 645 3236
http://www.dimagi.com/
_______________________________________________
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From leoanthonyceli at yahoo.com  Mon Mar 10 16:25:39 2008
From: leoanthonyceli at yahoo.com (Leo Anthony Celi)
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 13:25:39 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Cidrz] Wednesday Agenda
In-Reply-To: <46fb10300803100810x1e414b94r8f617921686e04d5@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <246686.41724.qm@web38005.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Please feel free to add.
  1.  Needs assessment (Can Dimagi provide us with the answers to our questions?  Will
       there be a way to obtain the answers to questions that Dimagi cannot address?  Should
       we arrange for a tele-conference with the rural nurses and the doctors in Lusaka?)
  2.  Work plan and time line
  3.  Progress with JavaRosa XForms system documentation required for the project
  4.  Progress with Gather server tools documentation required for the project
  5.  Patient information to go with the images
           a.  Privacy issues - need for de-identification?  Are there specific government  
                regulations in Zambia?
           b.  What patient information is required for decision making and archiving?
  6.  Oral presentation by Andres next week (How can the group help?)
   
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From andresmh at media.mit.edu  Thu Mar 13 00:06:06 2008
From: andresmh at media.mit.edu (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Andr=E9s_Monroy-Hern=E1ndez?=)
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 00:06:06 -0400
Subject: [Cidrz] server side
Message-ID: <d0a8a7530803122106vfc16eecmfb57295f2d8366c2@mail.gmail.com>

hi Daniel Myers,

I was wondering if you could share with us your code for managing the
images that cellphones send. I remember you're using RoR, right? I set
up a temporary subdomain where you could set up your code.

You can ssh cidrz at cidrz.scratchr.org

I'll send you the password on a separate email...

Best.

-- 
Andr?s



From dmyung at dimagi.com  Thu Mar 13 01:21:21 2008
From: dmyung at dimagi.com (Daniel Myung)
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 01:21:21 -0400
Subject: [Cidrz] server setup
Message-ID: <46fb10300803122221h7dc1f08v6ab3f89acdd68769@mail.gmail.com>

hey guys,

i've setup a VM with hopefully all the LAMP you'll need.

the specs are here:
http://www.vmware.com/appliances/directory/496

root password is nokia

the web url for just port 80 access is:
ict4dev.dimagi.com

the ssh login is found at:
38.97.79.152

lemme know if you need me to run/load anything off of it.

Dan
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From andresmh at media.mit.edu  Thu Mar 13 03:34:11 2008
From: andresmh at media.mit.edu (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Andr=E9s_Monroy-Hern=E1ndez?=)
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 03:34:11 -0400
Subject: [Cidrz] updated google doc
Message-ID: <d0a8a7530803130034v10b64b88q86c90aedf4a3b6ac@mail.gmail.com>

http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=dfv5t84r_348s4pjvqj
added diagrams

-- 
Andr?s



From dmyung at dimagi.com  Thu Mar 13 18:52:27 2008
From: dmyung at dimagi.com (Daniel Myung)
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 18:52:27 -0400
Subject: [Cidrz] server setup
In-Reply-To: <46fb10300803122221h7dc1f08v6ab3f89acdd68769@mail.gmail.com>
References: <46fb10300803122221h7dc1f08v6ab3f89acdd68769@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <46fb10300803131552r38037997v3293eb5ef53ec075@mail.gmail.com>

i got off the phone with cidrz earlier.  given the schedule it looks
impossible for them to come up to boston, but i arranged during our meeting
monday to have a conference call w/ them.  so why not for this monday we
meet at dimagi offices at One Kendall by flat top johnny's?  2pm same time.

Dan

On 3/13/08, Daniel Myung <dmyung at dimagi.com> wrote:
>
> hey guys,
>
> i've setup a VM with hopefully all the LAMP you'll need.
>
> the specs are here:
> http://www.vmware.com/appliances/directory/496
>
> root password is nokia
>
> the web url for just port 80 access is:
> ict4dev.dimagi.com
>
> the ssh login is found at:
> 38.97.79.152
>
> lemme know if you need me to run/load anything off of it.
>
> Dan
>
>
>


-- 
Daniel Myung
Senior Engineer
Dimagi, Inc  |  One Kendall Square  |  Bldg. 400, 4th Floor  |  Cambridge,
MA 02139
work: (617) 621 8595  |  cell: (617) 645 3236
http://www.dimagi.com/
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From leoanthonyceli at yahoo.com  Thu Mar 13 18:55:26 2008
From: leoanthonyceli at yahoo.com (Leo Anthony Celi)
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 15:55:26 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Cidrz] Monday 2 PM at Dimagi Office
In-Reply-To: <46fb10300803131552r38037997v3293eb5ef53ec075@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <727378.64316.qm@web38002.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Sounds good.

Daniel Myung <dmyung at dimagi.com> wrote:  i got off the phone with cidrz earlier.  given the schedule it looks impossible for them to come up to boston, but i arranged during our meeting monday to have a conference call w/ them.  so why not for this monday we meet at dimagi offices at One Kendall by flat top johnny's?  2pm same time.

Dan

  On 3/13/08, Daniel Myung <dmyung at dimagi.com> wrote:  hey guys,

i've setup a VM with hopefully all the LAMP you'll need.

the specs are here:
http://www.vmware.com/appliances/directory/496

root password is nokia

the web url for just port 80 access is:
ict4dev.dimagi.com

the ssh login is found at:
38.97.79.152

lemme know if you need me to run/load anything off of it.

Dan






-- 
Daniel Myung
Senior Engineer
Dimagi, Inc  |  One Kendall Square  |  Bldg. 400, 4th Floor  |  Cambridge, MA 02139
work: (617) 621 8595  |  cell: (617) 645 3236
http://www.dimagi.com/ _______________________________________________
Cidrz mailing list
Cidrz at mit.edu
http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/cidrz

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From andresmh at media.mit.edu  Thu Mar 13 19:20:45 2008
From: andresmh at media.mit.edu (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Andr=E9s_Monroy-Hern=E1ndez?=)
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 19:20:45 -0400
Subject: [Cidrz] Monday 2 PM at Dimagi Office
In-Reply-To: <727378.64316.qm@web38002.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <46fb10300803131552r38037997v3293eb5ef53ec075@mail.gmail.com>
	<727378.64316.qm@web38002.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <d0a8a7530803131620h614a3c47s21269825e97ac2f9@mail.gmail.com>

Confirmed.

2008/3/13, Leo Anthony Celi <leoanthonyceli at yahoo.com>:
> Sounds good.
>
> Daniel Myung <dmyung at dimagi.com> wrote:
> i got off the phone with cidrz earlier.  given the schedule it looks
> impossible for them to come up to boston, but i arranged during our meeting
> monday to have a conference call w/ them.  so why not for this monday we
> meet at dimagi offices at One Kendall by flat top johnny's?  2pm same time.
>
> Dan
>
>
> On 3/13/08, Daniel Myung <dmyung at dimagi.com> wrote:
> > hey guys,
> >
> > i've setup a VM with hopefully all the LAMP you'll need.
> >
> > the specs are here:
> > http://www.vmware.com/appliances/directory/496
> >
> > root password is nokia
> >
> > the web url for just port 80 access is:
> > ict4dev.dimagi.com
> >
> > the ssh login is found at:
> > 38.97.79.152
> >
> > lemme know if you need me to run/load anything off of it.
> >
> > Dan
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Daniel Myung
> Senior Engineer
> Dimagi, Inc  |  One Kendall Square  |  Bldg. 400, 4th Floor  |  Cambridge,
> MA 02139
> work: (617) 621 8595  |  cell: (617) 645 3236
> http://www.dimagi.com/
> _______________________________________________
> Cidrz mailing list
> Cidrz at mit.edu
> http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/cidrz
>
>
> _______________________________________________
>  Cidrz mailing list
>  Cidrz at mit.edu
>  http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/cidrz
>
>


-- 
Andr?s



From andresmh at media.mit.edu  Thu Mar 13 19:23:39 2008
From: andresmh at media.mit.edu (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Andr=E9s_Monroy-Hern=E1ndez?=)
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 19:23:39 -0400
Subject: [Cidrz] Monday 2 PM at Dimagi Office
In-Reply-To: <d0a8a7530803131620h614a3c47s21269825e97ac2f9@mail.gmail.com>
References: <46fb10300803131552r38037997v3293eb5ef53ec075@mail.gmail.com>
	<727378.64316.qm@web38002.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<d0a8a7530803131620h614a3c47s21269825e97ac2f9@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <d0a8a7530803131623n796b144bk782b109540aca38f@mail.gmail.com>

oh actually, i just realized that there is going to be an extra
session on j2me programming for the class at the same time...  could
we move it to after 4.30pm?

2008/3/13, Andr?s Monroy-Hern?ndez <andresmh at media.mit.edu>:
> Confirmed.
>
>  2008/3/13, Leo Anthony Celi <leoanthonyceli at yahoo.com>:
>
> > Sounds good.
>  >
>  > Daniel Myung <dmyung at dimagi.com> wrote:
>  > i got off the phone with cidrz earlier.  given the schedule it looks
>  > impossible for them to come up to boston, but i arranged during our meeting
>  > monday to have a conference call w/ them.  so why not for this monday we
>  > meet at dimagi offices at One Kendall by flat top johnny's?  2pm same time.
>  >
>  > Dan
>  >
>  >
>  > On 3/13/08, Daniel Myung <dmyung at dimagi.com> wrote:
>  > > hey guys,
>  > >
>  > > i've setup a VM with hopefully all the LAMP you'll need.
>  > >
>  > > the specs are here:
>  > > http://www.vmware.com/appliances/directory/496
>  > >
>  > > root password is nokia
>  > >
>  > > the web url for just port 80 access is:
>  > > ict4dev.dimagi.com
>  > >
>  > > the ssh login is found at:
>  > > 38.97.79.152
>  > >
>  > > lemme know if you need me to run/load anything off of it.
>  > >
>  > > Dan
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  > --
>  > Daniel Myung
>  > Senior Engineer
>  > Dimagi, Inc  |  One Kendall Square  |  Bldg. 400, 4th Floor  |  Cambridge,
>  > MA 02139
>  > work: (617) 621 8595  |  cell: (617) 645 3236
>  > http://www.dimagi.com/
>  > _______________________________________________
>  > Cidrz mailing list
>  > Cidrz at mit.edu
>  > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/cidrz
>  >
>  >
>  > _______________________________________________
>  >  Cidrz mailing list
>  >  Cidrz at mit.edu
>  >  http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/cidrz
>  >
>  >
>
>
>
> --
>
> Andr?s
>


-- 
Andr?s



From dmyung at dimagi.com  Thu Mar 13 19:35:38 2008
From: dmyung at dimagi.com (Daniel Myung)
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 19:35:38 -0400
Subject: [Cidrz] Monday 2 PM at Dimagi Office
In-Reply-To: <d0a8a7530803131623n796b144bk782b109540aca38f@mail.gmail.com>
References: <46fb10300803131552r38037997v3293eb5ef53ec075@mail.gmail.com>
	<727378.64316.qm@web38002.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<d0a8a7530803131620h614a3c47s21269825e97ac2f9@mail.gmail.com>
	<d0a8a7530803131623n796b144bk782b109540aca38f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <46fb10300803131635u4909700dk263c9d80472f00ab@mail.gmail.com>

i'll try my darndest to see if we can move it.  leo, when's your travel? is
that 430pm time ok?

On 3/13/08, Andr?s Monroy-Hern?ndez <andresmh at media.mit.edu> wrote:
>
> oh actually, i just realized that there is going to be an extra
> session on j2me programming for the class at the same time...  could
> we move it to after 4.30pm?
>
> 2008/3/13, Andr?s Monroy-Hern?ndez <andresmh at media.mit.edu>:
>
> > Confirmed.
> >
> >  2008/3/13, Leo Anthony Celi <leoanthonyceli at yahoo.com>:
> >
> > > Sounds good.
> >  >
> >  > Daniel Myung <dmyung at dimagi.com> wrote:
> >  > i got off the phone with cidrz earlier.  given the schedule it looks
> >  > impossible for them to come up to boston, but i arranged during our
> meeting
> >  > monday to have a conference call w/ them.  so why not for this monday
> we
> >  > meet at dimagi offices at One Kendall by flat top johnny's?  2pm same
> time.
> >  >
> >  > Dan
> >  >
> >  >
> >  > On 3/13/08, Daniel Myung <dmyung at dimagi.com> wrote:
> >  > > hey guys,
> >  > >
> >  > > i've setup a VM with hopefully all the LAMP you'll need.
> >  > >
> >  > > the specs are here:
> >  > > http://www.vmware.com/appliances/directory/496
> >  > >
> >  > > root password is nokia
> >  > >
> >  > > the web url for just port 80 access is:
> >  > > ict4dev.dimagi.com
> >  > >
> >  > > the ssh login is found at:
> >  > > 38.97.79.152
> >  > >
> >  > > lemme know if you need me to run/load anything off of it.
> >  > >
> >  > > Dan
> >  > >
> >  > >
> >  > >
> >  >
> >  >
> >  >
> >  > --
> >  > Daniel Myung
> >  > Senior Engineer
> >  > Dimagi, Inc  |  One Kendall Square  |  Bldg. 400, 4th
> Floor  |  Cambridge,
> >  > MA 02139
> >  > work: (617) 621 8595  |  cell: (617) 645 3236
> >  > http://www.dimagi.com/
> >  > _______________________________________________
> >  > Cidrz mailing list
> >  > Cidrz at mit.edu
> >  > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/cidrz
> >  >
> >  >
> >  > _______________________________________________
> >  >  Cidrz mailing list
> >  >  Cidrz at mit.edu
> >  >  http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/cidrz
> >  >
> >  >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> > Andr?s
> >
>
>
> --
> Andr?s
>
> _______________________________________________
> Cidrz mailing list
> Cidrz at mit.edu
> http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/cidrz
>



-- 
Daniel Myung
Senior Engineer
Dimagi, Inc  |  One Kendall Square  |  Bldg. 400, 4th Floor  |  Cambridge,
MA 02139
work: (617) 621 8595  |  cell: (617) 645 3236
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From leoanthonyceli at yahoo.com  Thu Mar 13 20:28:29 2008
From: leoanthonyceli at yahoo.com (Leo Anthony Celi)
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 17:28:29 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Cidrz] Two Conference Calls?
In-Reply-To: <46fb10300803131635u4909700dk263c9d80472f00ab@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <39818.95995.qm@web38015.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

My flight leaves at 6:30 PM.  I'm taking the T to the airport so I have to leave by 4 PM at the latest.  Perhaps we can have 2 separate conference calls, one general (for the doctors and nurses) and one technical?  Will the doctors and nurses be able to answer the more technical questions from Andres?  I can do the general conference call at 2 PM and Andres can conference call with the more technical people at 4:30 PM.  What do you guys think?  Would 10:30 PM (4:30 PM Boston time) be too late for the Lusaka folks?
  ~
  

Daniel Myung <dmyung at dimagi.com> wrote:
  i'll try my darndest to see if we can move it.  leo, when's your travel? is that 430pm time ok?

  On 3/13/08, Andr?s Monroy-Hern?ndez <andresmh at media.mit.edu> wrote:  oh actually, i just realized that there is going to be an extra
session on j2me programming for the class at the same time...  could
we move it to after 4.30pm?

2008/3/13, Andr?s Monroy-Hern?ndez <andresmh at media.mit.edu>:

> Confirmed.
>
>  2008/3/13, Leo Anthony Celi <leoanthonyceli at yahoo.com>:
>
> > Sounds good.
>  >
>  > Daniel Myung <dmyung at dimagi.com> wrote:
>  > i got off the phone with cidrz earlier.  given the schedule it looks
>  > impossible for them to come up to boston, but i arranged during our meeting
>  > monday to have a conference call w/ them.  so why not for this monday we
>  > meet at dimagi offices at One Kendall by flat top johnny's?  2pm same time.
>  >
>  > Dan
>  >
>  >
>  > On 3/13/08, Daniel Myung <dmyung at dimagi.com> wrote:
>  > > hey guys,
>  > >
>  > > i've setup a VM with hopefully all the LAMP you'll need.
>  > >
>  > > the specs are here:
>  > > http://www.vmware.com/appliances/directory/496
>  > >
>  > > root password is nokia
>  > >
>  > > the web url for just port 80 access is:
>  > > ict4dev.dimagi.com
>  > >
>  > > the ssh login is found at:
>  > > 38.97.79.152
>  > >
>  > > lemme know if you need me to run/load anything off of it.
>  > >
>  > > Dan
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  > --
>  > Daniel Myung
>  > Senior Engineer
>  > Dimagi, Inc  |  One Kendall Square  |  Bldg. 400, 4th Floor  |  Cambridge,
>  > MA 02139
>  > work: (617) 621 8595  |  cell: (617) 645 3236
>  > http://www.dimagi.com/
>  > _______________________________________________
>  > Cidrz mailing list
>  > Cidrz at mit.edu
>  > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/cidrz
>  >
>  >
>  > _______________________________________________
>  >  Cidrz mailing list
>  >  Cidrz at mit.edu
>  >  http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/cidrz
>  >
>  >
>
>
>
> --
>
> Andr?s
>


--
Andr?s

_______________________________________________
Cidrz mailing list
Cidrz at mit.edu
http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/cidrz




-- 
Daniel Myung
Senior Engineer
Dimagi, Inc  |  One Kendall Square  |  Bldg. 400, 4th Floor  |  Cambridge, MA 02139
work: (617) 621 8595  |  cell: (617) 645 3236
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From leoanthonyceli at yahoo.com  Fri Mar 14 14:19:55 2008
From: leoanthonyceli at yahoo.com (Leo Anthony Celi)
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 11:19:55 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Cidrz] What did we decide for Monday?
Message-ID: <586315.39555.qm@web38009.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

What time is the phone conference on Monday?
  Can we have a separate one for general (2 PM) and another for technical (4:30 PM)?
  Please advice.
  Cheers,
  Leo
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From dmyung at dimagi.com  Fri Mar 14 14:26:13 2008
From: dmyung at dimagi.com (Daniel Myung)
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 14:26:13 -0400
Subject: [Cidrz] What did we decide for Monday?
In-Reply-To: <586315.39555.qm@web38009.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <586315.39555.qm@web38009.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <46fb10300803141126g82103e4x4d1bc31109523b5@mail.gmail.com>

not sure yet, still awaiting feedback for their schedule.  2pm is def. a go,
just not sure if they can spare the time to have another go around as well.

Dan

On 3/14/08, Leo Anthony Celi <leoanthonyceli at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> What time is the phone conference on Monday?
> Can we have a separate one for general (2 PM) and another for technical
> (4:30 PM)?
> Please advice.
> Cheers,
> Leo
>
> _______________________________________________
> Cidrz mailing list
> Cidrz at mit.edu
> http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/cidrz
>
>


-- 
Daniel Myung
Senior Engineer
Dimagi, Inc  |  One Kendall Square  |  Bldg. 400, 4th Floor  |  Cambridge,
MA 02139
work: (617) 621 8595  |  cell: (617) 645 3236
http://www.dimagi.com/
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From dmyung at dimagi.com  Fri Mar 14 14:31:09 2008
From: dmyung at dimagi.com (Daniel Myung)
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 14:31:09 -0400
Subject: [Cidrz] What did we decide for Monday?
In-Reply-To: <46fb10300803141126g82103e4x4d1bc31109523b5@mail.gmail.com>
References: <586315.39555.qm@web38009.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<46fb10300803141126g82103e4x4d1bc31109523b5@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <46fb10300803141131h41a48bdevaeae873b9a3d8650@mail.gmail.com>

Andres, what time does the J2ME session get out?  i wonder if we can just
move the 2pm call to 3 or 3:30 and have everyone be happy with one call?

On 3/14/08, Daniel Myung <dmyung at dimagi.com> wrote:
>
> not sure yet, still awaiting feedback for their schedule.  2pm is def. a
> go, just not sure if they can spare the time to have another go around as
> well.
>
> Dan
>
> On 3/14/08, Leo Anthony Celi <leoanthonyceli at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > What time is the phone conference on Monday?
> > Can we have a separate one for general (2 PM) and another for technical
> > (4:30 PM)?
> > Please advice.
> > Cheers,
> > Leo
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Cidrz mailing list
> > Cidrz at mit.edu
> > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/cidrz
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> Daniel Myung
> Senior Engineer
> Dimagi, Inc  |  One Kendall Square  |  Bldg. 400, 4th Floor  |  Cambridge,
> MA 02139
> work: (617) 621 8595  |  cell: (617) 645 3236
> http://www.dimagi.com/




-- 
Daniel Myung
Senior Engineer
Dimagi, Inc  |  One Kendall Square  |  Bldg. 400, 4th Floor  |  Cambridge,
MA 02139
work: (617) 621 8595  |  cell: (617) 645 3236
http://www.dimagi.com/
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From andresmh at media.mit.edu  Fri Mar 14 15:38:18 2008
From: andresmh at media.mit.edu (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Andr=E9s_Monroy-Hern=E1ndez?=)
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 15:38:18 -0400
Subject: [Cidrz] What did we decide for Monday?
In-Reply-To: <46fb10300803141131h41a48bdevaeae873b9a3d8650@mail.gmail.com>
References: <586315.39555.qm@web38009.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<46fb10300803141126g82103e4x4d1bc31109523b5@mail.gmail.com>
	<46fb10300803141131h41a48bdevaeae873b9a3d8650@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <d0a8a7530803141238s7b1b18f9xac27c66fbee6f6d6@mail.gmail.com>

The session starts at 1.30 to 3pm. I have a class from 3 to 4.30pm.

The j2me session is not mandatory so I will just go from 1.30 to 2 and
then I'll meet you from 2 to 2.40.

2008/3/14, Daniel Myung <dmyung at dimagi.com>:
> Andres, what time does the J2ME session get out?  i wonder if we can just
> move the 2pm call to 3 or 3:30 and have everyone be happy with one call?
>
>
> On 3/14/08, Daniel Myung <dmyung at dimagi.com> wrote:
> > not sure yet, still awaiting feedback for their schedule.  2pm is def. a
> go, just not sure if they can spare the time to have another go around as
> well.
> >
> > Dan
> >
> >
> >
> > On 3/14/08, Leo Anthony Celi <leoanthonyceli at yahoo.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > What time is the phone conference on Monday?
> > > Can we have a separate one for general (2 PM) and another for technical
> (4:30 PM)?
> > > Please advice.
> > > Cheers,
> > > Leo
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Cidrz mailing list
> > > Cidrz at mit.edu
> > > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/cidrz
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Daniel Myung
> > Senior Engineer
> > Dimagi, Inc  |  One Kendall Square  |  Bldg. 400, 4th Floor  |  Cambridge,
> MA 02139
> > work: (617) 621 8595  |  cell: (617) 645 3236
> > http://www.dimagi.com/
>
>
>
> --
> Daniel Myung
> Senior Engineer
> Dimagi, Inc  |  One Kendall Square  |  Bldg. 400, 4th Floor  |  Cambridge,
> MA 02139
> work: (617) 621 8595  |  cell: (617) 645 3236
>  http://www.dimagi.com/
> _______________________________________________
>  Cidrz mailing list
>  Cidrz at mit.edu
>  http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/cidrz
>
>


-- 
Andr?s



From dsmyers at MIT.EDU  Fri Mar 14 15:41:42 2008
From: dsmyers at MIT.EDU (Daniel Myers)
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 15:41:42 -0400
Subject: [Cidrz] server side
In-Reply-To: <d0a8a7530803122106vfc16eecmfb57295f2d8366c2@mail.gmail.com>
References: <d0a8a7530803122106vfc16eecmfb57295f2d8366c2@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <455d64770803141241n48699bd6g89849e42537d9505@mail.gmail.com>

Andres,
    Sure. I'm not here this weekend, but I'll get to this early in the week.

Daniel

On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 12:06 AM, Andr?s Monroy-Hern?ndez
<andresmh at media.mit.edu> wrote:
> hi Daniel Myers,
>
>  I was wondering if you could share with us your code for managing the
>  images that cellphones send. I remember you're using RoR, right? I set
>  up a temporary subdomain where you could set up your code.
>
>  You can ssh cidrz at cidrz.scratchr.org
>
>  I'll send you the password on a separate email...
>
>  Best.
>
>  --
>  Andr?s
>



From dmyung at dimagi.com  Sun Mar 16 20:33:07 2008
From: dmyung at dimagi.com (Daniel Myung)
Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 20:33:07 -0400
Subject: [Cidrz] Two Conference Calls?
In-Reply-To: <39818.95995.qm@web38015.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <46fb10300803131635u4909700dk263c9d80472f00ab@mail.gmail.com>
	<39818.95995.qm@web38015.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <46fb10300803161733w584ae635mc9486a201a6e9172@mail.gmail.com>

hey leo,

can you call in from the terminal at 4:30pm?  figure since you'll be at the
airport by 4, the cidrz guys a little tough to track down, so i want to
stick to the singular 4:30pm call as we rescheduled earlier.


call in information:

(906) 481-2000
call in number 684882

dan


On 3/13/08, Leo Anthony Celi <leoanthonyceli at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> My flight leaves at 6:30 PM.  I'm taking the T to the airport so I have to
> leave by 4 PM at the latest.  Perhaps we can have 2 separate conference
> calls, one general (for the doctors and nurses) and one technical?  Will the
> doctors and nurses be able to answer the more technical questions from
> Andres?  I can do the general conference call at 2 PM and Andres can
> conference call with the more technical people at 4:30 PM.  What do you guys
> think?  Would 10:30 PM (4:30 PM Boston time) be too late for the Lusaka
> folks?
> ~
>
>
> *Daniel Myung <dmyung at dimagi.com>* wrote:
>
> i'll try my darndest to see if we can move it.  leo, when's your travel?
> is that 430pm time ok?
>
> On 3/13/08, Andr?s Monroy-Hern?ndez <andresmh at media.mit.edu> wrote:
> >
> > oh actually, i just realized that there is going to be an extra
> > session on j2me programming for the class at the same time...  could
> > we move it to after 4.30pm?
> >
> > 2008/3/13, Andr?s Monroy-Hern?ndez <andresmh at media.mit.edu>:
> >
> > > Confirmed.
> > >
> > >  2008/3/13, Leo Anthony Celi <leoanthonyceli at yahoo.com>:
> > >
> > > > Sounds good.
> > >  >
> > >  > Daniel Myung <dmyung at dimagi.com> wrote:
> > >  > i got off the phone with cidrz earlier.  given the schedule it
> > looks
> > >  > impossible for them to come up to boston, but i arranged during our
> > meeting
> > >  > monday to have a conference call w/ them.  so why not for this
> > monday we
> > >  > meet at dimagi offices at One Kendall by flat top johnny's?  2pm
> > same time.
> > >  >
> > >  > Dan
> > >  >
> > >  >
> > >  > On 3/13/08, Daniel Myung <dmyung at dimagi.com> wrote:
> > >  > > hey guys,
> > >  > >
> > >  > > i've setup a VM with hopefully all the LAMP you'll need.
> > >  > >
> > >  > > the specs are here:
> > >  > > http://www.vmware.com/appliances/directory/496
> > >  > >
> > >  > > root password is nokia
> > >  > >
> > >  > > the web url for just port 80 access is:
> > >  > > ict4dev.dimagi.com
> > >  > >
> > >  > > the ssh login is found at:
> > >  > > 38.97.79.152
> > >  > >
> > >  > > lemme know if you need me to run/load anything off of it.
> > >  > >
> > >  > > Dan
> > >  > >
> > >  > >
> > >  > >
> > >  >
> > >  >
> > >  >
> > >  > --
> > >  > Daniel Myung
> > >  > Senior Engineer
> > >  > Dimagi, Inc  |  One Kendall Square  |  Bldg. 400, 4th
> > Floor  |  Cambridge,
> > >  > MA 02139
> > >  > work: (617) 621 8595  |  cell: (617) 645 3236
> > >  > http://www.dimagi.com/
> > >  > _______________________________________________
> > >  > Cidrz mailing list
> > >  > Cidrz at mit.edu
> > >  > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/cidrz
> > >  >
> > >  >
> > >  > _______________________________________________
> > >  >  Cidrz mailing list
> > >  >  Cidrz at mit.edu
> > >  >  http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/cidrz
> > >  >
> > >  >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > > Andr?s
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Andr?s
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Cidrz mailing list
> > Cidrz at mit.edu
> > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/cidrz
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Daniel Myung
> Senior Engineer
> Dimagi, Inc  |  One Kendall Square  |  Bldg. 400, 4th Floor  |  Cambridge,
> MA 02139
> work: (617) 621 8595  |  cell: (617) 645 3236
> http://www.dimagi.com/ _______________________________________________
> Cidrz mailing list
> Cidrz at mit.edu
> http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/cidrz
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Cidrz mailing list
> Cidrz at mit.edu
> http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/cidrz
>
>


-- 
Daniel Myung
Senior Engineer
Dimagi, Inc  |  One Kendall Square  |  Bldg. 400, 4th Floor  |  Cambridge,
MA 02139
work: (617) 621 8595  |  cell: (617) 645 3236
http://www.dimagi.com/
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From dmyung at dimagi.com  Sun Mar 16 20:53:36 2008
From: dmyung at dimagi.com (Daniel Myung)
Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 20:53:36 -0400
Subject: [Cidrz] interesting light modifiers that could be useful
Message-ID: <46fb10300803161753o17778fd1ga42e67872c510fce@mail.gmail.com>

in the absence of making apparatus for a ring flash for a digicam, maybe
just using an LED array around the camera (maybe using some sort of
bracket/case or something) could be useful:

http://www.meritline.com/15-led-tent-lamp-camping-light.html

this is intriguing if we could somehow poke a hole in the middle:

http://www.meritline.com/36-led-portable-camping-light.html

...

and a little googling while sending this message has revealed that there are
more creative people out there doing this stuff already:

http://www.dansdata.com/ringlight.htm


-- 
Daniel Myung
Senior Engineer
Dimagi, Inc  |  One Kendall Square  |  Bldg. 400, 4th Floor  |  Cambridge,
MA 02139
work: (617) 621 8595  |  cell: (617) 645 3236
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From leoanthonyceli at yahoo.com  Sun Mar 16 22:19:36 2008
From: leoanthonyceli at yahoo.com (Leo Anthony Celi)
Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 19:19:36 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Cidrz] Conference Call at Dimagi Office at 4:30 PM
In-Reply-To: <46fb10300803161733w584ae635mc9486a201a6e9172@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <84505.59630.qm@web38009.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Hi,
          My flight is at 6:30 PM so I was planning to get to the airport by 4:30 PM.  Even if I get to the airport by 4 PM, I'm probably queueing up for about an hour given it's an international flight.
          Go ahead without me.  My main questions are:
  1.  How important is real-time decision support functionality to them?  If they think it is key, who will provide the on-call service?  Doctors in Lusaka?  Doctors in the US?  How will this be possible given the time difference between Zambia and the US?
  2.  How do the doctors on-call want to be notified of the need for decision support?  The workflow needs to be granularized fully.  Will the doctor on-call just want to ring the nurse who sent the image?  A use case diagram will be helpful.  How do we capture and document the decision/information flow?  This is improtant for QA.  
  2.  What other functionalities do they want?  How do they want to carry on the weekly image reviews that they have now?  Are the doctors planning to continue travelling to each area of the country as the programme is rolled out?  Or do they envision a tele-medicine type image reviews?
  3.  How are they envisioning implementation?  I presume they'll pilot the real-time functionality in a small area?  I've presumed from my previous question that it will be a roll-out implementation across the country.  
  4.  What other QA processes should we put in place for the pilot apart from a record of the exchange and transfer of information? for the actual implementation?
  5.  We should also come up with both process and outcome metrics that we will track as we implement it from one area to another.  These are important if CIDRZ really wants to become established as the center of training in cervical cancer screening.  This is my area of expertise and would be happy to work with the CIDRZ folks.
  6.  Are they going to use the same nurses as we roll out from one area of the country to another?  If not, how many nurses need to be trained?  I presume the core group of nurses will be responsible for training the nurses in other areas of the country?  Have they given this a thought?
  7. What sort of operational and technical risks are involved in the project?  How can we minimize these risks?  Do we have contingency plans for those that are most likely to be encountered?
           Andres, I leave the oral presentation in your hands.  Daniel Myung, Andres will be presenting on Tuesday in case you haven't been informed yet.  Andres, please post a blog regarding the conference call and the comments/suggestions of the instructors and the rest of the class.  I'll make it up when I get back. 
  Cheers,
  Leo

Daniel Myung <dmyung at dimagi.com> wrote:
  hey leo,

can you call in from the terminal at 4:30pm?  figure since you'll be at the airport by 4, the cidrz guys a little tough to track down, so i want to stick to the singular 4:30pm call as we rescheduled earlier.


call in information:

(906) 481-2000
call in number 684882

dan


  On 3/13/08, Leo Anthony Celi <leoanthonyceli at yahoo.com> wrote:    My flight leaves at 6:30 PM.  I'm taking the T to the airport so I have to leave by 4 PM at the latest.  Perhaps we can have 2 separate conference calls, one general (for the doctors and nurses) and one technical?  Will the doctors and nurses be able to answer the more technical questions from Andres?  I can do the general conference call at 2 PM and Andres can conference call with the more technical people at 4:30 PM.  What do you guys think?  Would 10:30 PM (4:30 PM Boston time) be too late for the Lusaka folks?
  ~
  

Daniel Myung <dmyung at dimagi.com> wrote:
  i'll try my darndest to see if we can move it.  leo, when's your travel? is that 430pm time ok?

  On 3/13/08, Andr?s Monroy-Hern?ndez <andresmh at media.mit.edu> wrote:   oh actually, i just realized that there is going to be an extra
session on j2me programming for the class at the same time...  could
we move it to after 4.30pm?

2008/3/13, Andr?s Monroy-Hern?ndez <andresmh at media.mit.edu>:

> Confirmed.
>
>  2008/3/13, Leo Anthony Celi <leoanthonyceli at yahoo.com>:
>
> > Sounds good.
>  >
>  > Daniel Myung <dmyung at dimagi.com> wrote:
>  > i got off the phone with cidrz earlier.  given the schedule it looks
>  > impossible for them to come up to boston, but i arranged during our meeting
>  > monday to have a conference call w/ them.  so why not for this monday we
>  > meet at dimagi offices at One Kendall by flat top johnny's?  2pm same time.
>  >
>  > Dan
>  >
>  >
>  > On 3/13/08, Daniel Myung <dmyung at dimagi.com> wrote:
>  > > hey guys,
>  > >
>  > > i've setup a VM with hopefully all the LAMP you'll need.
>  > >
>  > > the specs are here:
>  > > http://www.vmware.com/appliances/directory/496
>  > >
>  > > root password is nokia
>  > >
>  > > the web url for just port 80 access is:
>  > > ict4dev.dimagi.com
>  > >
>  > > the ssh login is found at:
>  > > 38.97.79.152
>  > >
>  > > lemme know if you need me to run/load anything off of it.
>  > >
>  > > Dan
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  > --
>  > Daniel Myung
>  > Senior Engineer
>  > Dimagi, Inc  |  One Kendall Square  |  Bldg. 400, 4th Floor  |  Cambridge,
>  > MA 02139
>  > work: (617) 621 8595  |  cell: (617) 645 3236
>  > http://www.dimagi.com/
>  > _______________________________________________
>  > Cidrz mailing list
>  > Cidrz at mit.edu
>  > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/cidrz
>  >
>  >
>  > _______________________________________________
>  >  Cidrz mailing list
>  >  Cidrz at mit.edu
>  >  http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/cidrz
>  >
>  >
>
>
>
> --
>
> Andr?s
>


--
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Dimagi, Inc  |  One Kendall Square  |  Bldg. 400, 4th Floor  |  Cambridge, MA 02139
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From andresmh at media.mit.edu  Mon Mar 17 12:02:57 2008
From: andresmh at media.mit.edu (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Andr=E9s_Monroy-Hern=E1ndez?=)
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 12:02:57 -0400
Subject: [Cidrz] Conference Call at Dimagi Office at 4:30 PM
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OK. I'll take care of the presentation and I'll call to that number at
4.30. So we are NOT meeting at 1.30 at Stata?

2008/3/16, Leo Anthony Celi <leoanthonyceli at yahoo.com>:
> Hi,
>         My flight is at 6:30 PM so I was planning to get to the airport by
> 4:30 PM.  Even if I get to the airport by 4 PM, I'm probably queueing up for
> about an hour given it's an international flight.
>         Go ahead without me.  My main questions are:
> 1.  How important is real-time decision support functionality to them?  If
> they think it is key, who will provide the on-call service?  Doctors in
> Lusaka?  Doctors in the US?  How will this be possible given the time
> difference between Zambia and the US?
> 2.  How do the doctors on-call want to be notified of the need for decision
> support?  The workflow needs to be granularized fully.  Will the doctor
> on-call just want to ring the nurse who sent the image?  A use case diagram
> will be helpful.  How do we capture and document the decision/information
> flow?  This is improtant for QA.
> 2.  What other functionalities do they want?  How do they want to carry on
> the weekly image reviews that they have now?  Are the doctors planning to
> continue travelling to each area of the country as the programme is rolled
> out?  Or do they envision a tele-medicine type image reviews?
> 3.  How are they envisioning implementation?  I presume they'll pilot the
> real-time functionality in a small area?  I've presumed from my previous
> question that it will be a roll-out implementation across the country.
> 4.  What other QA processes should we put in place for the pilot apart from
> a record of the exchange and transfer of information? for the actual
> implementation?
> 5.  We should also come up with both process and outcome metrics that we
> will track as we implement it from one area to another.  These are important
> if CIDRZ really wants to become established as the center of training in
> cervical cancer screening.  This is my area of expertise and would be happy
> to work with the CIDRZ folks.
> 6.  Are they going to use the same nurses as we roll out from one area of
> the country to another?  If not, how many nurses need to be trained?  I
> presume the core group of nurses will be responsible for training the nurses
> in other areas of the country?  Have they given this a thought?
> 7. What sort of operational and technical risks are involved in the project?
>  How can we minimize these risks?  Do we have contingency plans for those
> that are most likely to be encountered?
>          Andres, I leave the oral presentation in your hands.  Daniel Myung,
> Andres will be presenting on Tuesday in case you haven't been informed yet.
> Andres, please post a blog regarding the conference call and the
> comments/suggestions of the instructors and the rest of the class.  I'll
> make it up when I get back.
> Cheers,
> Leo
>
> Daniel Myung <dmyung at dimagi.com> wrote:
> hey leo,
>
> can you call in from the terminal at 4:30pm?  figure since you'll be at the
> airport by 4, the cidrz guys a little tough to track down, so i want to
> stick to the singular 4:30pm call as we rescheduled earlier.
>
>
> call in information:
>
> (906) 481-2000
> call in number 684882
>
> dan
>
>
>
> On 3/13/08, Leo Anthony Celi <leoanthonyceli at yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > My flight leaves at 6:30 PM.  I'm taking the T to the airport so I have to
> leave by 4 PM at the latest.  Perhaps we can have 2 separate conference
> calls, one general (for the doctors and nurses) and one technical?  Will the
> doctors and nurses be able to answer the more technical questions from
> Andres?  I can do the general conference call at 2 PM and Andres can
> conference call with the more technical people at 4:30 PM.  What do you guys
> think?  Would 10:30 PM (4:30 PM Boston time) be too late for the Lusaka
> folks?
> > ~
> >
> >
> > Daniel Myung <dmyung at dimagi.com> wrote:
> > i'll try my darndest to see if we can move it.  leo, when's your travel?
> is that 430pm time ok?
> >
> >
> > On 3/13/08, Andr?s Monroy-Hern?ndez <andresmh at media.mit.edu> wrote:
> > > oh actually, i just realized that there is going to be an extra
> > > session on j2me programming for the class at the same time...  could
> > > we move it to after 4.30pm?
> > >
> > > 2008/3/13, Andr?s Monroy-Hern?ndez <andresmh at media.mit.edu>:
> > >
> > > > Confirmed.
> > > >
> > > >  2008/3/13, Leo Anthony Celi <leoanthonyceli at yahoo.com>:
> > > >
> > > > > Sounds good.
> > > >  >
> > > >  > Daniel Myung <dmyung at dimagi.com> wrote:
> > > >  > i got off the phone with cidrz earlier.  given the schedule it
> looks
> > > >  > impossible for them to come up to boston, but i arranged during our
> meeting
> > > >  > monday to have a conference call w/ them.  so why not for this
> monday we
> > > >  > meet at dimagi offices at One Kendall by flat top johnny's?  2pm
> same time.
> > > >  >
> > > >  > Dan
> > > >  >
> > > >  >
> > > >  > On 3/13/08, Daniel Myung <dmyung at dimagi.com> wrote:
> > > >  > > hey guys,
> > > >  > >
> > > >  > > i've setup a VM with hopefully all the LAMP you'll need.
> > > >  > >
> > > >  > > the specs are here:
> > > >  > > http://www.vmware.com/appliances/directory/496
> > > >  > >
> > > >  > > root password is nokia
> > > >  > >
> > > >  > > the web url for just port 80 access is:
> > > >  > > ict4dev.dimagi.com
> > > >  > >
> > > >  > > the ssh login is found at:
> > > >  > > 38.97.79.152
> > > >  > >
> > > >  > > lemme know if you need me to run/load anything off of it.
> > > >  > >
> > > >  > > Dan
> > > >  > >
> > > >  > >
> > > >  > >
> > > >  >
> > > >  >
> > > >  >
> > > >  > --
> > > >  > Daniel Myung
> > > >  > Senior Engineer
> > > >  > Dimagi, Inc  |  One Kendall Square  |  Bldg. 400, 4th Floor  |
> Cambridge,
> > > >  > MA 02139
> > > >  > work: (617) 621 8595  |  cell: (617) 645 3236
> > > >  > http://www.dimagi.com/
> > > >  > _______________________________________________
> > > >  > Cidrz mailing list
> > > >  > Cidrz at mit.edu
> > > >  > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/cidrz
> > > >  >
> > > >  >
> > > >  > _______________________________________________
> > > >  >  Cidrz mailing list
> > > >  >  Cidrz at mit.edu
> > > >  >  http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/cidrz
> > > >  >
> > > >  >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > >
> > > > Andr?s
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Andr?s
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Cidrz mailing list
> > > Cidrz at mit.edu
> > > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/cidrz
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Daniel Myung
> > Senior Engineer
> > Dimagi, Inc  |  One Kendall Square  |  Bldg. 400, 4th Floor  |  Cambridge,
> MA 02139
> > work: (617) 621 8595  |  cell: (617) 645 3236
> > http://www.dimagi.com/
> _______________________________________________
> > Cidrz mailing list
> > Cidrz at mit.edu
> > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/cidrz
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Cidrz mailing list
> > Cidrz at mit.edu
> > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/cidrz
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Daniel Myung
> Senior Engineer
> Dimagi, Inc  |  One Kendall Square  |  Bldg. 400, 4th Floor  |  Cambridge,
> MA 02139
> work: (617) 621 8595  |  cell: (617) 645 3236
> http://www.dimagi.com/
> _______________________________________________
> Cidrz mailing list
> Cidrz at mit.edu
> http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/cidrz
>
>
> _______________________________________________
>  Cidrz mailing list
>  Cidrz at mit.edu
>  http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/cidrz
>
>


-- 
Andr?s



From dsmyers at MIT.EDU  Mon Mar 17 12:07:50 2008
From: dsmyers at MIT.EDU (Daniel Myers)
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 12:07:50 -0400
Subject: [Cidrz] Conference Call at Dimagi Office at 4:30 PM
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I've been following the back-and-forth re: the call--so it's on for
4:30 today at the dimagi office? Can someone give me the address?

Thanks,
Daniel

On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 12:02 PM, Andr?s Monroy-Hern?ndez
<andresmh at media.mit.edu> wrote:
> OK. I'll take care of the presentation and I'll call to that number at
>  4.30. So we are NOT meeting at 1.30 at Stata?
>
>  2008/3/16, Leo Anthony Celi <leoanthonyceli at yahoo.com>:
>
>
> > Hi,
>  >         My flight is at 6:30 PM so I was planning to get to the airport by
>  > 4:30 PM.  Even if I get to the airport by 4 PM, I'm probably queueing up for
>  > about an hour given it's an international flight.
>  >         Go ahead without me.  My main questions are:
>  > 1.  How important is real-time decision support functionality to them?  If
>  > they think it is key, who will provide the on-call service?  Doctors in
>  > Lusaka?  Doctors in the US?  How will this be possible given the time
>  > difference between Zambia and the US?
>  > 2.  How do the doctors on-call want to be notified of the need for decision
>  > support?  The workflow needs to be granularized fully.  Will the doctor
>  > on-call just want to ring the nurse who sent the image?  A use case diagram
>  > will be helpful.  How do we capture and document the decision/information
>  > flow?  This is improtant for QA.
>  > 2.  What other functionalities do they want?  How do they want to carry on
>  > the weekly image reviews that they have now?  Are the doctors planning to
>  > continue travelling to each area of the country as the programme is rolled
>  > out?  Or do they envision a tele-medicine type image reviews?
>  > 3.  How are they envisioning implementation?  I presume they'll pilot the
>  > real-time functionality in a small area?  I've presumed from my previous
>  > question that it will be a roll-out implementation across the country.
>  > 4.  What other QA processes should we put in place for the pilot apart from
>  > a record of the exchange and transfer of information? for the actual
>  > implementation?
>  > 5.  We should also come up with both process and outcome metrics that we
>  > will track as we implement it from one area to another.  These are important
>  > if CIDRZ really wants to become established as the center of training in
>  > cervical cancer screening.  This is my area of expertise and would be happy
>  > to work with the CIDRZ folks.
>  > 6.  Are they going to use the same nurses as we roll out from one area of
>  > the country to another?  If not, how many nurses need to be trained?  I
>  > presume the core group of nurses will be responsible for training the nurses
>  > in other areas of the country?  Have they given this a thought?
>  > 7. What sort of operational and technical risks are involved in the project?
>  >  How can we minimize these risks?  Do we have contingency plans for those
>  > that are most likely to be encountered?
>  >          Andres, I leave the oral presentation in your hands.  Daniel Myung,
>  > Andres will be presenting on Tuesday in case you haven't been informed yet.
>  > Andres, please post a blog regarding the conference call and the
>  > comments/suggestions of the instructors and the rest of the class.  I'll
>  > make it up when I get back.
>  > Cheers,
>  > Leo
>  >
>  > Daniel Myung <dmyung at dimagi.com> wrote:
>  > hey leo,
>  >
>  > can you call in from the terminal at 4:30pm?  figure since you'll be at the
>  > airport by 4, the cidrz guys a little tough to track down, so i want to
>  > stick to the singular 4:30pm call as we rescheduled earlier.
>  >
>  >
>  > call in information:
>  >
>  > (906) 481-2000
>  > call in number 684882
>  >
>  > dan
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  > On 3/13/08, Leo Anthony Celi <leoanthonyceli at yahoo.com> wrote:
>  > >
>  > > My flight leaves at 6:30 PM.  I'm taking the T to the airport so I have to
>  > leave by 4 PM at the latest.  Perhaps we can have 2 separate conference
>  > calls, one general (for the doctors and nurses) and one technical?  Will the
>  > doctors and nurses be able to answer the more technical questions from
>  > Andres?  I can do the general conference call at 2 PM and Andres can
>  > conference call with the more technical people at 4:30 PM.  What do you guys
>  > think?  Would 10:30 PM (4:30 PM Boston time) be too late for the Lusaka
>  > folks?
>  > > ~
>  > >
>  > >
>  > > Daniel Myung <dmyung at dimagi.com> wrote:
>  > > i'll try my darndest to see if we can move it.  leo, when's your travel?
>  > is that 430pm time ok?
>  > >
>  > >
>  > > On 3/13/08, Andr?s Monroy-Hern?ndez <andresmh at media.mit.edu> wrote:
>  > > > oh actually, i just realized that there is going to be an extra
>  > > > session on j2me programming for the class at the same time...  could
>  > > > we move it to after 4.30pm?
>  > > >
>  > > > 2008/3/13, Andr?s Monroy-Hern?ndez <andresmh at media.mit.edu>:
>  > > >
>  > > > > Confirmed.
>  > > > >
>  > > > >  2008/3/13, Leo Anthony Celi <leoanthonyceli at yahoo.com>:
>  > > > >
>  > > > > > Sounds good.
>  > > > >  >
>  > > > >  > Daniel Myung <dmyung at dimagi.com> wrote:
>  > > > >  > i got off the phone with cidrz earlier.  given the schedule it
>  > looks
>  > > > >  > impossible for them to come up to boston, but i arranged during our
>  > meeting
>  > > > >  > monday to have a conference call w/ them.  so why not for this
>  > monday we
>  > > > >  > meet at dimagi offices at One Kendall by flat top johnny's?  2pm
>  > same time.
>  > > > >  >
>  > > > >  > Dan
>  > > > >  >
>  > > > >  >
>  > > > >  > On 3/13/08, Daniel Myung <dmyung at dimagi.com> wrote:
>  > > > >  > > hey guys,
>  > > > >  > >
>  > > > >  > > i've setup a VM with hopefully all the LAMP you'll need.
>  > > > >  > >
>  > > > >  > > the specs are here:
>  > > > >  > > http://www.vmware.com/appliances/directory/496
>  > > > >  > >
>  > > > >  > > root password is nokia
>  > > > >  > >
>  > > > >  > > the web url for just port 80 access is:
>  > > > >  > > ict4dev.dimagi.com
>  > > > >  > >
>  > > > >  > > the ssh login is found at:
>  > > > >  > > 38.97.79.152
>  > > > >  > >
>  > > > >  > > lemme know if you need me to run/load anything off of it.
>  > > > >  > >
>  > > > >  > > Dan
>  > > > >  > >
>  > > > >  > >
>  > > > >  > >
>  > > > >  >
>  > > > >  >
>  > > > >  >
>  > > > >  > --
>  > > > >  > Daniel Myung
>  > > > >  > Senior Engineer
>  > > > >  > Dimagi, Inc  |  One Kendall Square  |  Bldg. 400, 4th Floor  |
>  > Cambridge,
>  > > > >  > MA 02139
>  > > > >  > work: (617) 621 8595  |  cell: (617) 645 3236
>  > > > >  > http://www.dimagi.com/
>  > > > >  > _______________________________________________
>  > > > >  > Cidrz mailing list
>  > > > >  > Cidrz at mit.edu
>  > > > >  > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/cidrz
>  > > > >  >
>  > > > >  >
>  > > > >  > _______________________________________________
>  > > > >  >  Cidrz mailing list
>  > > > >  >  Cidrz at mit.edu
>  > > > >  >  http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/cidrz
>  > > > >  >
>  > > > >  >
>  > > > >
>  > > > >
>  > > > >
>  > > > > --
>  > > > >
>  > > > > Andr?s
>  > > > >
>  > > >
>  > > >
>  > > > --
>  > > > Andr?s
>  > > >
>  > > > _______________________________________________
>  > > > Cidrz mailing list
>  > > > Cidrz at mit.edu
>  > > > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/cidrz
>  > > >
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >
>  > > --
>  > > Daniel Myung
>  > > Senior Engineer
>  > > Dimagi, Inc  |  One Kendall Square  |  Bldg. 400, 4th Floor  |  Cambridge,
>  > MA 02139
>  > > work: (617) 621 8595  |  cell: (617) 645 3236
>  > > http://www.dimagi.com/
>  > _______________________________________________
>  > > Cidrz mailing list
>  > > Cidrz at mit.edu
>  > > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/cidrz
>  > >
>  > >
>  > > _______________________________________________
>  > > Cidrz mailing list
>  > > Cidrz at mit.edu
>  > > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/cidrz
>  > >
>  > >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  > --
>  > Daniel Myung
>  > Senior Engineer
>  > Dimagi, Inc  |  One Kendall Square  |  Bldg. 400, 4th Floor  |  Cambridge,
>  > MA 02139
>  > work: (617) 621 8595  |  cell: (617) 645 3236
>  > http://www.dimagi.com/
>  > _______________________________________________
>  > Cidrz mailing list
>  > Cidrz at mit.edu
>  > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/cidrz
>  >
>  >
>  > _______________________________________________
>  >  Cidrz mailing list
>  >  Cidrz at mit.edu
>  >  http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/cidrz
>  >
>  >
>
>
>  --
>  Andr?s
>
>  _______________________________________________
>  Cidrz mailing list
>  Cidrz at mit.edu
>  http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/cidrz
>



From dmyung at dimagi.com  Mon Mar 17 12:20:22 2008
From: dmyung at dimagi.com (Daniel Myung)
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 12:20:22 -0400
Subject: [Cidrz] Conference Call at Dimagi Office at 4:30 PM
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correct, 4:30pm Dimagi Office
400 One Kendall Square.

So walk up broadway (go through the kendall marriott) and pass by Draper
Labs.  You want to go underneath the skywalk and take a right at into One
Kendall as if you were going to the Kendall Cinema.

We are building 400, 4th floor.  call me if you're lost 617 645 3236

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=400+one+kendall+square,+cambridge,+ma&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=49.490703,85.078125&ie=UTF8&z=16

On 3/17/08, Daniel Myers <dsmyers at mit.edu> wrote:
>
> I've been following the back-and-forth re: the call--so it's on for
> 4:30 today at the dimagi office? Can someone give me the address?
>
> Thanks,
> Daniel
>
> On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 12:02 PM, Andr?s Monroy-Hern?ndez
>
> <andresmh at media.mit.edu> wrote:
> > OK. I'll take care of the presentation and I'll call to that number at
> >  4.30. So we are NOT meeting at 1.30 at Stata?
> >
> >  2008/3/16, Leo Anthony Celi <leoanthonyceli at yahoo.com>:
> >
> >
> > > Hi,
> >  >         My flight is at 6:30 PM so I was planning to get to the
> airport by
> >  > 4:30 PM.  Even if I get to the airport by 4 PM, I'm probably queueing
> up for
> >  > about an hour given it's an international flight.
> >  >         Go ahead without me.  My main questions are:
> >  > 1.  How important is real-time decision support functionality to
> them?  If
> >  > they think it is key, who will provide the on-call service?  Doctors
> in
> >  > Lusaka?  Doctors in the US?  How will this be possible given the time
> >  > difference between Zambia and the US?
> >  > 2.  How do the doctors on-call want to be notified of the need for
> decision
> >  > support?  The workflow needs to be granularized fully.  Will the
> doctor
> >  > on-call just want to ring the nurse who sent the image?  A use case
> diagram
> >  > will be helpful.  How do we capture and document the
> decision/information
> >  > flow?  This is improtant for QA.
> >  > 2.  What other functionalities do they want?  How do they want to
> carry on
> >  > the weekly image reviews that they have now?  Are the doctors
> planning to
> >  > continue travelling to each area of the country as the programme is
> rolled
> >  > out?  Or do they envision a tele-medicine type image reviews?
> >  > 3.  How are they envisioning implementation?  I presume they'll pilot
> the
> >  > real-time functionality in a small area?  I've presumed from my
> previous
> >  > question that it will be a roll-out implementation across the
> country.
> >  > 4.  What other QA processes should we put in place for the pilot
> apart from
> >  > a record of the exchange and transfer of information? for the actual
> >  > implementation?
> >  > 5.  We should also come up with both process and outcome metrics that
> we
> >  > will track as we implement it from one area to another.  These are
> important
> >  > if CIDRZ really wants to become established as the center of training
> in
> >  > cervical cancer screening.  This is my area of expertise and would be
> happy
> >  > to work with the CIDRZ folks.
> >  > 6.  Are they going to use the same nurses as we roll out from one
> area of
> >  > the country to another?  If not, how many nurses need to be
> trained?  I
> >  > presume the core group of nurses will be responsible for training the
> nurses
> >  > in other areas of the country?  Have they given this a thought?
> >  > 7. What sort of operational and technical risks are involved in the
> project?
> >  >  How can we minimize these risks?  Do we have contingency plans for
> those
> >  > that are most likely to be encountered?
> >  >          Andres, I leave the oral presentation in your hands.  Daniel
> Myung,
> >  > Andres will be presenting on Tuesday in case you haven't been
> informed yet.
> >  > Andres, please post a blog regarding the conference call and the
> >  > comments/suggestions of the instructors and the rest of the
> class.  I'll
> >  > make it up when I get back.
> >  > Cheers,
> >  > Leo
> >  >
> >  > Daniel Myung <dmyung at dimagi.com> wrote:
> >  > hey leo,
> >  >
> >  > can you call in from the terminal at 4:30pm?  figure since you'll be
> at the
> >  > airport by 4, the cidrz guys a little tough to track down, so i want
> to
> >  > stick to the singular 4:30pm call as we rescheduled earlier.
> >  >
> >  >
> >  > call in information:
> >  >
> >  > (906) 481-2000
> >  > call in number 684882
> >  >
> >  > dan
> >  >
> >  >
> >  >
> >  > On 3/13/08, Leo Anthony Celi <leoanthonyceli at yahoo.com> wrote:
> >  > >
> >  > > My flight leaves at 6:30 PM.  I'm taking the T to the airport so I
> have to
> >  > leave by 4 PM at the latest.  Perhaps we can have 2 separate
> conference
> >  > calls, one general (for the doctors and nurses) and one
> technical?  Will the
> >  > doctors and nurses be able to answer the more technical questions
> from
> >  > Andres?  I can do the general conference call at 2 PM and Andres can
> >  > conference call with the more technical people at 4:30 PM.  What do
> you guys
> >  > think?  Would 10:30 PM (4:30 PM Boston time) be too late for the
> Lusaka
> >  > folks?
> >  > > ~
> >  > >
> >  > >
> >  > > Daniel Myung <dmyung at dimagi.com> wrote:
> >  > > i'll try my darndest to see if we can move it.  leo, when's your
> travel?
> >  > is that 430pm time ok?
> >  > >
> >  > >
> >  > > On 3/13/08, Andr?s Monroy-Hern?ndez <andresmh at media.mit.edu> wrote:
> >  > > > oh actually, i just realized that there is going to be an extra
> >  > > > session on j2me programming for the class at the same
> time...  could
> >  > > > we move it to after 4.30pm?
> >  > > >
> >  > > > 2008/3/13, Andr?s Monroy-Hern?ndez <andresmh at media.mit.edu>:
> >  > > >
> >  > > > > Confirmed.
> >  > > > >
> >  > > > >  2008/3/13, Leo Anthony Celi <leoanthonyceli at yahoo.com>:
> >  > > > >
> >  > > > > > Sounds good.
> >  > > > >  >
> >  > > > >  > Daniel Myung <dmyung at dimagi.com> wrote:
> >  > > > >  > i got off the phone with cidrz earlier.  given the schedule
> it
> >  > looks
> >  > > > >  > impossible for them to come up to boston, but i arranged
> during our
> >  > meeting
> >  > > > >  > monday to have a conference call w/ them.  so why not for
> this
> >  > monday we
> >  > > > >  > meet at dimagi offices at One Kendall by flat top
> johnny's?  2pm
> >  > same time.
> >  > > > >  >
> >  > > > >  > Dan
> >  > > > >  >
> >  > > > >  >
> >  > > > >  > On 3/13/08, Daniel Myung <dmyung at dimagi.com> wrote:
> >  > > > >  > > hey guys,
> >  > > > >  > >
> >  > > > >  > > i've setup a VM with hopefully all the LAMP you'll need.
> >  > > > >  > >
> >  > > > >  > > the specs are here:
> >  > > > >  > > http://www.vmware.com/appliances/directory/496
> >  > > > >  > >
> >  > > > >  > > root password is nokia
> >  > > > >  > >
> >  > > > >  > > the web url for just port 80 access is:
> >  > > > >  > > ict4dev.dimagi.com
> >  > > > >  > >
> >  > > > >  > > the ssh login is found at:
> >  > > > >  > > 38.97.79.152
> >  > > > >  > >
> >  > > > >  > > lemme know if you need me to run/load anything off of it.
> >  > > > >  > >
> >  > > > >  > > Dan
> >  > > > >  > >
> >  > > > >  > >
> >  > > > >  > >
> >  > > > >  >
> >  > > > >  >
> >  > > > >  >
> >  > > > >  > --
> >  > > > >  > Daniel Myung
> >  > > > >  > Senior Engineer
> >  > > > >  > Dimagi, Inc  |  One Kendall Square  |  Bldg. 400, 4th
> Floor  |
> >  > Cambridge,
> >  > > > >  > MA 02139
> >  > > > >  > work: (617) 621 8595  |  cell: (617) 645 3236
> >  > > > >  > http://www.dimagi.com/
> >  > > > >  > _______________________________________________
> >  > > > >  > Cidrz mailing list
> >  > > > >  > Cidrz at mit.edu
> >  > > > >  > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/cidrz
> >  > > > >  >
> >  > > > >  >
> >  > > > >  > _______________________________________________
> >  > > > >  >  Cidrz mailing list
> >  > > > >  >  Cidrz at mit.edu
> >  > > > >  >  http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/cidrz
> >  > > > >  >
> >  > > > >  >
> >  > > > >
> >  > > > >
> >  > > > >
> >  > > > > --
> >  > > > >
> >  > > > > Andr?s
> >  > > > >
> >  > > >
> >  > > >
> >  > > > --
> >  > > > Andr?s
> >  > > >
> >  > > > _______________________________________________
> >  > > > Cidrz mailing list
> >  > > > Cidrz at mit.edu
> >  > > > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/cidrz
> >  > > >
> >  > >
> >  > >
> >  > >
> >  > > --
> >  > > Daniel Myung
> >  > > Senior Engineer
> >  > > Dimagi, Inc  |  One Kendall Square  |  Bldg. 400, 4th
> Floor  |  Cambridge,
> >  > MA 02139
> >  > > work: (617) 621 8595  |  cell: (617) 645 3236
> >  > > http://www.dimagi.com/
> >  > _______________________________________________
> >  > > Cidrz mailing list
> >  > > Cidrz at mit.edu
> >  > > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/cidrz
> >  > >
> >  > >
> >  > > _______________________________________________
> >  > > Cidrz mailing list
> >  > > Cidrz at mit.edu
> >  > > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/cidrz
> >  > >
> >  > >
> >  >
> >  >
> >  >
> >  > --
> >  > Daniel Myung
> >  > Senior Engineer
> >  > Dimagi, Inc  |  One Kendall Square  |  Bldg. 400, 4th
> Floor  |  Cambridge,
> >  > MA 02139
> >  > work: (617) 621 8595  |  cell: (617) 645 3236
> >  > http://www.dimagi.com/
> >  > _______________________________________________
> >  > Cidrz mailing list
> >  > Cidrz at mit.edu
> >  > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/cidrz
> >  >
> >  >
> >  > _______________________________________________
> >  >  Cidrz mailing list
> >  >  Cidrz at mit.edu
> >  >  http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/cidrz
> >  >
> >  >
> >
> >
> >  --
> >  Andr?s
> >
> >  _______________________________________________
> >  Cidrz mailing list
> >  Cidrz at mit.edu
> >  http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/cidrz
> >
>
> _______________________________________________
> Cidrz mailing list
> Cidrz at mit.edu
> http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/cidrz
>



-- 
Daniel Myung
Senior Engineer
Dimagi, Inc  |  One Kendall Square  |  Bldg. 400, 4th Floor  |  Cambridge,
MA 02139
work: (617) 621 8595  |  cell: (617) 645 3236
http://www.dimagi.com/
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Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 12:23:41 -0400
Subject: [Cidrz] Conference Call at Dimagi Office at 4:30 PM
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I have a class from 3 to 4.30 on the other side of campus. I'll call
in as I walk over there...

2008/3/17, Daniel Myung <dmyung at dimagi.com>:
> correct, 4:30pm Dimagi Office
> 400 One Kendall Square.
>
> So walk up broadway (go through the kendall marriott) and pass by Draper
> Labs.  You want to go underneath the skywalk and take a right at into One
> Kendall as if you were going to the Kendall Cinema.
>
> We are building 400, 4th floor.  call me if you're lost 617 645 3236
>
> http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=400+one+kendall+square,+cambridge,+ma&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=49.490703,85.078125&ie=UTF8&z=16
>
>
> On 3/17/08, Daniel Myers <dsmyers at mit.edu> wrote:
> > I've been following the back-and-forth re: the call--so it's on for
> > 4:30 today at the dimagi office? Can someone give me the address?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Daniel
> >
> > On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 12:02 PM, Andr?s Monroy-Hern?ndez
> >
> > <andresmh at media.mit.edu> wrote:
> > > OK. I'll take care of the presentation and I'll call to that number at
> > >  4.30. So we are NOT meeting at 1.30 at Stata?
> > >
> > >  2008/3/16, Leo Anthony Celi <leoanthonyceli at yahoo.com>:
> > >
> > >
> > > > Hi,
> > >  >         My flight is at 6:30 PM so I was planning to get to the
> airport by
> > >  > 4:30 PM.  Even if I get to the airport by 4 PM, I'm probably queueing
> up for
> > >  > about an hour given it's an international flight.
> > >  >         Go ahead without me.  My main questions are:
> > >  > 1.  How important is real-time decision support functionality to
> them?  If
> > >  > they think it is key, who will provide the on-call service?  Doctors
> in
> > >  > Lusaka?  Doctors in the US?  How will this be possible given the time
> > >  > difference between Zambia and the US?
> > >  > 2.  How do the doctors on-call want to be notified of the need for
> decision
> > >  > support?  The workflow needs to be granularized fully.  Will the
> doctor
> > >  > on-call just want to ring the nurse who sent the image?  A use case
> diagram
> > >  > will be helpful.  How do we capture and document the
> decision/information
> > >  > flow?  This is improtant for QA.
> > >  > 2.  What other functionalities do they want?  How do they want to
> carry on
> > >  > the weekly image reviews that they have now?  Are the doctors
> planning to
> > >  > continue travelling to each area of the country as the programme is
> rolled
> > >  > out?  Or do they envision a tele-medicine type image reviews?
> > >  > 3.  How are they envisioning implementation?  I presume they'll pilot
> the
> > >  > real-time functionality in a small area?  I've presumed from my
> previous
> > >  > question that it will be a roll-out implementation across the
> country.
> > >  > 4.  What other QA processes should we put in place for the pilot
> apart from
> > >  > a record of the exchange and transfer of information? for the actual
> > >  > implementation?
> > >  > 5.  We should also come up with both process and outcome metrics that
> we
> > >  > will track as we implement it from one area to another.  These are
> important
> > >  > if CIDRZ really wants to become established as the center of training
> in
> > >  > cervical cancer screening.  This is my area of expertise and would be
> happy
> > >  > to work with the CIDRZ folks.
> > >  > 6.  Are they going to use the same nurses as we roll out from one
> area of
> > >  > the country to another?  If not, how many nurses need to be trained?
> I
> > >  > presume the core group of nurses will be responsible for training the
> nurses
> > >  > in other areas of the country?  Have they given this a thought?
> > >  > 7. What sort of operational and technical risks are involved in the
> project?
> > >  >  How can we minimize these risks?  Do we have contingency plans for
> those
> > >  > that are most likely to be encountered?
> > >  >          Andres, I leave the oral presentation in your hands.  Daniel
> Myung,
> > >  > Andres will be presenting on Tuesday in case you haven't been
> informed yet.
> > >  > Andres, please post a blog regarding the conference call and the
> > >  > comments/suggestions of the instructors and the rest of the class.
> I'll
> > >  > make it up when I get back.
> > >  > Cheers,
> > >  > Leo
> > >  >
> > >  > Daniel Myung <dmyung at dimagi.com> wrote:
> > >  > hey leo,
> > >  >
> > >  > can you call in from the terminal at 4:30pm?  figure since you'll be
> at the
> > >  > airport by 4, the cidrz guys a little tough to track down, so i want
> to
> > >  > stick to the singular 4:30pm call as we rescheduled earlier.
> > >  >
> > >  >
> > >  > call in information:
> > >  >
> > >  > (906) 481-2000
> > >  > call in number 684882
> > >  >
> > >  > dan
> > >  >
> > >  >
> > >  >
> > >  > On 3/13/08, Leo Anthony Celi <leoanthonyceli at yahoo.com> wrote:
> > >  > >
> > >  > > My flight leaves at 6:30 PM.  I'm taking the T to the airport so I
> have to
> > >  > leave by 4 PM at the latest.  Perhaps we can have 2 separate
> conference
> > >  > calls, one general (for the doctors and nurses) and one technical?
> Will the
> > >  > doctors and nurses be able to answer the more technical questions
> from
> > >  > Andres?  I can do the general conference call at 2 PM and Andres can
> > >  > conference call with the more technical people at 4:30 PM.  What do
> you guys
> > >  > think?  Would 10:30 PM (4:30 PM Boston time) be too late for the
> Lusaka
> > >  > folks?
> > >  > > ~
> > >  > >
> > >  > >
> > >  > > Daniel Myung <dmyung at dimagi.com> wrote:
> > >  > > i'll try my darndest to see if we can move it.  leo, when's your
> travel?
> > >  > is that 430pm time ok?
> > >  > >
> > >  > >
> > >  > > On 3/13/08, Andr?s Monroy-Hern?ndez <andresmh at media.mit.edu> wrote:
> > >  > > > oh actually, i just realized that there is going to be an extra
> > >  > > > session on j2me programming for the class at the same time...
> could
> > >  > > > we move it to after 4.30pm?
> > >  > > >
> > >  > > > 2008/3/13, Andr?s Monroy-Hern?ndez <andresmh at media.mit.edu>:
> > >  > > >
> > >  > > > > Confirmed.
> > >  > > > >
> > >  > > > >  2008/3/13, Leo Anthony Celi <leoanthonyceli at yahoo.com>:
> > >  > > > >
> > >  > > > > > Sounds good.
> > >  > > > >  >
> > >  > > > >  > Daniel Myung <dmyung at dimagi.com> wrote:
> > >  > > > >  > i got off the phone with cidrz earlier.  given the schedule
> it
> > >  > looks
> > >  > > > >  > impossible for them to come up to boston, but i arranged
> during our
> > >  > meeting
> > >  > > > >  > monday to have a conference call w/ them.  so why not for
> this
> > >  > monday we
> > >  > > > >  > meet at dimagi offices at One Kendall by flat top johnny's?
> 2pm
> > >  > same time.
> > >  > > > >  >
> > >  > > > >  > Dan
> > >  > > > >  >
> > >  > > > >  >
> > >  > > > >  > On 3/13/08, Daniel Myung <dmyung at dimagi.com> wrote:
> > >  > > > >  > > hey guys,
> > >  > > > >  > >
> > >  > > > >  > > i've setup a VM with hopefully all the LAMP you'll need.
> > >  > > > >  > >
> > >  > > > >  > > the specs are here:
> > >  > > > >  > >
> http://www.vmware.com/appliances/directory/496
> > >  > > > >  > >
> > >  > > > >  > > root password is nokia
> > >  > > > >  > >
> > >  > > > >  > > the web url for just port 80 access is:
> > >  > > > >  > > ict4dev.dimagi.com
> > >  > > > >  > >
> > >  > > > >  > > the ssh login is found at:
> > >  > > > >  > > 38.97.79.152
> > >  > > > >  > >
> > >  > > > >  > > lemme know if you need me to run/load anything off of it.
> > >  > > > >  > >
> > >  > > > >  > > Dan
> > >  > > > >  > >
> > >  > > > >  > >
> > >  > > > >  > >
> > >  > > > >  >
> > >  > > > >  >
> > >  > > > >  >
> > >  > > > >  > --
> > >  > > > >  > Daniel Myung
> > >  > > > >  > Senior Engineer
> > >  > > > >  > Dimagi, Inc  |  One Kendall Square  |  Bldg. 400, 4th Floor
> |
> > >  > Cambridge,
> > >  > > > >  > MA 02139
> > >  > > > >  > work: (617) 621 8595  |  cell: (617) 645 3236
> > >  > > > >  > http://www.dimagi.com/
> > >  > > > >  >
> _______________________________________________
> > >  > > > >  > Cidrz mailing list
> > >  > > > >  > Cidrz at mit.edu
> > >  > > > >  >
> http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/cidrz
> > >  > > > >  >
> > >  > > > >  >
> > >  > > > >  >
> _______________________________________________
> > >  > > > >  >  Cidrz mailing list
> > >  > > > >  >  Cidrz at mit.edu
> > >  > > > >  >
> http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/cidrz
> > >  > > > >  >
> > >  > > > >  >
> > >  > > > >
> > >  > > > >
> > >  > > > >
> > >  > > > > --
> > >  > > > >
> > >  > > > > Andr?s
> > >  > > > >
> > >  > > >
> > >  > > >
> > >  > > > --
> > >  > > > Andr?s
> > >  > > >
> > >  > > > _______________________________________________
> > >  > > > Cidrz mailing list
> > >  > > > Cidrz at mit.edu
> > >  > > > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/cidrz
> > >  > > >
> > >  > >
> > >  > >
> > >  > >
> > >  > > --
> > >  > > Daniel Myung
> > >  > > Senior Engineer
> > >  > > Dimagi, Inc  |  One Kendall Square  |  Bldg. 400, 4th Floor  |
> Cambridge,
> > >  > MA 02139
> > >  > > work: (617) 621 8595  |  cell: (617) 645 3236
> > >  > > http://www.dimagi.com/
> > >  > _______________________________________________
> > >  > > Cidrz mailing list
> > >  > > Cidrz at mit.edu
> > >  > > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/cidrz
> > >  > >
> > >  > >
> > >  > > _______________________________________________
> > >  > > Cidrz mailing list
> > >  > > Cidrz at mit.edu
> > >  > > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/cidrz
> > >  > >
> > >  > >
> > >  >
> > >  >
> > >  >
> > >  > --
> > >  > Daniel Myung
> > >  > Senior Engineer
> > >  > Dimagi, Inc  |  One Kendall Square  |  Bldg. 400, 4th Floor  |
> Cambridge,
> > >  > MA 02139
> > >  > work: (617) 621 8595  |  cell: (617) 645 3236
> > >  > http://www.dimagi.com/
> > >  > _______________________________________________
> > >  > Cidrz mailing list
> > >  > Cidrz at mit.edu
> > >  > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/cidrz
> > >  >
> > >  >
> > >  > _______________________________________________
> > >  >  Cidrz mailing list
> > >  >  Cidrz at mit.edu
> > >  >  http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/cidrz
> > >  >
> > >  >
> > >
> > >
> > >  --
> > >  Andr?s
> > >
> > >  _______________________________________________
> > >  Cidrz mailing list
> > >  Cidrz at mit.edu
> > >  http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/cidrz
> > >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Cidrz mailing list
> > Cidrz at mit.edu
> > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/cidrz
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Daniel Myung
> Senior Engineer
> Dimagi, Inc  |  One Kendall Square  |  Bldg. 400, 4th Floor  |  Cambridge,
> MA 02139
>  work: (617) 621 8595  |  cell: (617) 645 3236
> http://www.dimagi.com/
> _______________________________________________
>  Cidrz mailing list
>  Cidrz at mit.edu
>  http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/cidrz
>
>


-- 
Andr?s



From dsmyers at MIT.EDU  Mon Mar 17 12:27:32 2008
From: dsmyers at MIT.EDU (Daniel Myers)
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 12:27:32 -0400
Subject: [Cidrz] Conference Call at Dimagi Office at 4:30 PM
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Thanks Daniel.

D

2008/3/17 Daniel Myung <dmyung at dimagi.com>:
> correct, 4:30pm Dimagi Office
> 400 One Kendall Square.
>
> So walk up broadway (go through the kendall marriott) and pass by Draper
> Labs.  You want to go underneath the skywalk and take a right at into One
> Kendall as if you were going to the Kendall Cinema.
>
> We are building 400, 4th floor.  call me if you're lost 617 645 3236
>
> http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=400+one+kendall+square,+cambridge,+ma&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=49.490703,85.078125&ie=UTF8&z=16
>
>
>
> On 3/17/08, Daniel Myers <dsmyers at mit.edu> wrote:
> > I've been following the back-and-forth re: the call--so it's on for
> > 4:30 today at the dimagi office? Can someone give me the address?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Daniel
> >
> > On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 12:02 PM, Andr?s Monroy-Hern?ndez
> >
> > <andresmh at media.mit.edu> wrote:
> > > OK. I'll take care of the presentation and I'll call to that number at
> > >  4.30. So we are NOT meeting at 1.30 at Stata?
> > >
> > >  2008/3/16, Leo Anthony Celi <leoanthonyceli at yahoo.com>:
> > >
> > >
> > > > Hi,
> > >  >         My flight is at 6:30 PM so I was planning to get to the
> airport by
> > >  > 4:30 PM.  Even if I get to the airport by 4 PM, I'm probably queueing
> up for
> > >  > about an hour given it's an international flight.
> > >  >         Go ahead without me.  My main questions are:
> > >  > 1.  How important is real-time decision support functionality to
> them?  If
> > >  > they think it is key, who will provide the on-call service?  Doctors
> in
> > >  > Lusaka?  Doctors in the US?  How will this be possible given the time
> > >  > difference between Zambia and the US?
> > >  > 2.  How do the doctors on-call want to be notified of the need for
> decision
> > >  > support?  The workflow needs to be granularized fully.  Will the
> doctor
> > >  > on-call just want to ring the nurse who sent the image?  A use case
> diagram
> > >  > will be helpful.  How do we capture and document the
> decision/information
> > >  > flow?  This is improtant for QA.
> > >  > 2.  What other functionalities do they want?  How do they want to
> carry on
> > >  > the weekly image reviews that they have now?  Are the doctors
> planning to
> > >  > continue travelling to each area of the country as the programme is
> rolled
> > >  > out?  Or do they envision a tele-medicine type image reviews?
> > >  > 3.  How are they envisioning implementation?  I presume they'll pilot
> the
> > >  > real-time functionality in a small area?  I've presumed from my
> previous
> > >  > question that it will be a roll-out implementation across the
> country.
> > >  > 4.  What other QA processes should we put in place for the pilot
> apart from
> > >  > a record of the exchange and transfer of information? for the actual
> > >  > implementation?
> > >  > 5.  We should also come up with both process and outcome metrics that
> we
> > >  > will track as we implement it from one area to another.  These are
> important
> > >  > if CIDRZ really wants to become established as the center of training
> in
> > >  > cervical cancer screening.  This is my area of expertise and would be
> happy
> > >  > to work with the CIDRZ folks.
> > >  > 6.  Are they going to use the same nurses as we roll out from one
> area of
> > >  > the country to another?  If not, how many nurses need to be trained?
> I
> > >  > presume the core group of nurses will be responsible for training the
> nurses
> > >  > in other areas of the country?  Have they given this a thought?
> > >  > 7. What sort of operational and technical risks are involved in the
> project?
> > >  >  How can we minimize these risks?  Do we have contingency plans for
> those
> > >  > that are most likely to be encountered?
> > >  >          Andres, I leave the oral presentation in your hands.  Daniel
> Myung,
> > >  > Andres will be presenting on Tuesday in case you haven't been
> informed yet.
> > >  > Andres, please post a blog regarding the conference call and the
> > >  > comments/suggestions of the instructors and the rest of the class.
> I'll
> > >  > make it up when I get back.
> > >  > Cheers,
> > >  > Leo
> > >  >
> > >  > Daniel Myung <dmyung at dimagi.com> wrote:
> > >  > hey leo,
> > >  >
> > >  > can you call in from the terminal at 4:30pm?  figure since you'll be
> at the
> > >  > airport by 4, the cidrz guys a little tough to track down, so i want
> to
> > >  > stick to the singular 4:30pm call as we rescheduled earlier.
> > >  >
> > >  >
> > >  > call in information:
> > >  >
> > >  > (906) 481-2000
> > >  > call in number 684882
> > >  >
> > >  > dan
> > >  >
> > >  >
> > >  >
> > >  > On 3/13/08, Leo Anthony Celi <leoanthonyceli at yahoo.com> wrote:
> > >  > >
> > >  > > My flight leaves at 6:30 PM.  I'm taking the T to the airport so I
> have to
> > >  > leave by 4 PM at the latest.  Perhaps we can have 2 separate
> conference
> > >  > calls, one general (for the doctors and nurses) and one technical?
> Will the
> > >  > doctors and nurses be able to answer the more technical questions
> from
> > >  > Andres?  I can do the general conference call at 2 PM and Andres can
> > >  > conference call with the more technical people at 4:30 PM.  What do
> you guys
> > >  > think?  Would 10:30 PM (4:30 PM Boston time) be too late for the
> Lusaka
> > >  > folks?
> > >  > > ~
> > >  > >
> > >  > >
> > >  > > Daniel Myung <dmyung at dimagi.com> wrote:
> > >  > > i'll try my darndest to see if we can move it.  leo, when's your
> travel?
> > >  > is that 430pm time ok?
> > >  > >
> > >  > >
> > >  > > On 3/13/08, Andr?s Monroy-Hern?ndez <andresmh at media.mit.edu> wrote:
> > >  > > > oh actually, i just realized that there is going to be an extra
> > >  > > > session on j2me programming for the class at the same time...
> could
> > >  > > > we move it to after 4.30pm?
> > >  > > >
> > >  > > > 2008/3/13, Andr?s Monroy-Hern?ndez <andresmh at media.mit.edu>:
> > >  > > >
> > >  > > > > Confirmed.
> > >  > > > >
> > >  > > > >  2008/3/13, Leo Anthony Celi <leoanthonyceli at yahoo.com>:
> > >  > > > >
> > >  > > > > > Sounds good.
> > >  > > > >  >
> > >  > > > >  > Daniel Myung <dmyung at dimagi.com> wrote:
> > >  > > > >  > i got off the phone with cidrz earlier.  given the schedule
> it
> > >  > looks
> > >  > > > >  > impossible for them to come up to boston, but i arranged
> during our
> > >  > meeting
> > >  > > > >  > monday to have a conference call w/ them.  so why not for
> this
> > >  > monday we
> > >  > > > >  > meet at dimagi offices at One Kendall by flat top johnny's?
> 2pm
> > >  > same time.
> > >  > > > >  >
> > >  > > > >  > Dan
> > >  > > > >  >
> > >  > > > >  >
> > >  > > > >  > On 3/13/08, Daniel Myung <dmyung at dimagi.com> wrote:
> > >  > > > >  > > hey guys,
> > >  > > > >  > >
> > >  > > > >  > > i've setup a VM with hopefully all the LAMP you'll need.
> > >  > > > >  > >
> > >  > > > >  > > the specs are here:
> > >  > > > >  > > http://www.vmware.com/appliances/directory/496
> > >  > > > >  > >
> > >  > > > >  > > root password is nokia
> > >  > > > >  > >
> > >  > > > >  > > the web url for just port 80 access is:
> > >  > > > >  > > ict4dev.dimagi.com
> > >  > > > >  > >
> > >  > > > >  > > the ssh login is found at:
> > >  > > > >  > > 38.97.79.152
> > >  > > > >  > >
> > >  > > > >  > > lemme know if you need me to run/load anything off of it.
> > >  > > > >  > >
> > >  > > > >  > > Dan
> > >  > > > >  > >
> > >  > > > >  > >
> > >  > > > >  > >
> > >  > > > >  >
> > >  > > > >  >
> > >  > > > >  >
> > >  > > > >  > --
> > >  > > > >  > Daniel Myung
> > >  > > > >  > Senior Engineer
> > >  > > > >  > Dimagi, Inc  |  One Kendall Square  |  Bldg. 400, 4th Floor
> |
> > >  > Cambridge,
> > >  > > > >  > MA 02139
> > >  > > > >  > work: (617) 621 8595  |  cell: (617) 645 3236
> > >  > > > >  > http://www.dimagi.com/
> > >  > > > >  > _______________________________________________
> > >  > > > >  > Cidrz mailing list
> > >  > > > >  > Cidrz at mit.edu
> > >  > > > >  > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/cidrz
> > >  > > > >  >
> > >  > > > >  >
> > >  > > > >  > _______________________________________________
> > >  > > > >  >  Cidrz mailing list
> > >  > > > >  >  Cidrz at mit.edu
> > >  > > > >  >  http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/cidrz
> > >  > > > >  >
> > >  > > > >  >
> > >  > > > >
> > >  > > > >
> > >  > > > >
> > >  > > > > --
> > >  > > > >
> > >  > > > > Andr?s
> > >  > > > >
> > >  > > >
> > >  > > >
> > >  > > > --
> > >  > > > Andr?s
> > >  > > >
> > >  > > > _______________________________________________
> > >  > > > Cidrz mailing list
> > >  > > > Cidrz at mit.edu
> > >  > > > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/cidrz
> > >  > > >
> > >  > >
> > >  > >
> > >  > >
> > >  > > --
> > >  > > Daniel Myung
> > >  > > Senior Engineer
> > >  > > Dimagi, Inc  |  One Kendall Square  |  Bldg. 400, 4th Floor  |
> Cambridge,
> > >  > MA 02139
> > >  > > work: (617) 621 8595  |  cell: (617) 645 3236
> > >  > > http://www.dimagi.com/
> > >  > _______________________________________________
> > >  > > Cidrz mailing list
> > >  > > Cidrz at mit.edu
> > >  > > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/cidrz
> > >  > >
> > >  > >
> > >  > > _______________________________________________
> > >  > > Cidrz mailing list
> > >  > > Cidrz at mit.edu
> > >  > > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/cidrz
> > >  > >
> > >  > >
> > >  >
> > >  >
> > >  >
> > >  > --
> > >  > Daniel Myung
> > >  > Senior Engineer
> > >  > Dimagi, Inc  |  One Kendall Square  |  Bldg. 400, 4th Floor  |
> Cambridge,
> > >  > MA 02139
> > >  > work: (617) 621 8595  |  cell: (617) 645 3236
> > >  > http://www.dimagi.com/
> > >  > _______________________________________________
> > >  > Cidrz mailing list
> > >  > Cidrz at mit.edu
> > >  > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/cidrz
> > >  >
> > >  >
> > >  > _______________________________________________
> > >  >  Cidrz mailing list
> > >  >  Cidrz at mit.edu
> > >  >  http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/cidrz
> > >  >
> > >  >
> > >
> > >
> > >  --
> > >  Andr?s
> > >
> > >  _______________________________________________
> > >  Cidrz mailing list
> > >  Cidrz at mit.edu
> > >  http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/cidrz
> > >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Cidrz mailing list
> > Cidrz at mit.edu
> > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/cidrz
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Daniel Myung
> Senior Engineer
> Dimagi, Inc  |  One Kendall Square  |  Bldg. 400, 4th Floor  |  Cambridge,
> MA 02139
>  work: (617) 621 8595  |  cell: (617) 645 3236
> http://www.dimagi.com/
> _______________________________________________
>  Cidrz mailing list
>  Cidrz at mit.edu
>  http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/cidrz
>
>



From leoanthonyceli at yahoo.com  Mon Mar 17 13:42:31 2008
From: leoanthonyceli at yahoo.com (Leo Anthony Celi)
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 10:42:31 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Cidrz] Conference Call
Message-ID: <480089.17996.qm@web38008.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Please ask the questions I gave in my previous email.  Andres, please take notes for me.  Thanks.  Good luck with the oral presentation.
Cheers,
Leo
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From dsmyers at MIT.EDU  Mon Mar 17 17:04:28 2008
From: dsmyers at MIT.EDU (Daniel Myers)
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 17:04:28 -0400
Subject: [Cidrz] Missed conference call
Message-ID: <455d64770803171404i1897677eja4ce818b15a3d368@mail.gmail.com>

Hi guys,
    Sorry I missed the call--I was in a meeting that ran over, and I
couldn't leave. Let me know if there's anything that needs my input...

Daniel


From andresmh at media.mit.edu  Mon Mar 17 18:46:54 2008
From: andresmh at media.mit.edu (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Andr=E9s_Monroy-Hern=E1ndez?=)
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 18:46:54 -0400
Subject: [Cidrz] Missed conference call
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References: <455d64770803171404i1897677eja4ce818b15a3d368@mail.gmail.com>
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No problem Daniel. Thanks for offering your help. You can actually
help us with figuring out how/if we can use ORBEON to append images
and submit data via some kind of API (that the phone will use).

Best

2008/3/17, Daniel Myers <dsmyers at mit.edu>:
> Hi guys,
>     Sorry I missed the call--I was in a meeting that ran over, and I
>  couldn't leave. Let me know if there's anything that needs my input...
>
>  Daniel
>  _______________________________________________
>  Cidrz mailing list
>  Cidrz at mit.edu
>  http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/cidrz
>


-- 
Andr?s



From dmyung at dimagi.com  Thu Mar 20 23:00:37 2008
From: dmyung at dimagi.com (Daniel Myung)
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 23:00:37 -0400
Subject: [Cidrz] Conference Call at Dimagi Office at 4:30 PM
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comments interspersed below, i left some notes i was annotating down so
ignore or glean from them as you please.

On 3/16/08, Leo Anthony Celi <leoanthonyceli at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>         My flight is at 6:30 PM so I was planning to get to the airport
> by 4:30 PM.  Even if I get to the airport by 4 PM, I'm probably queueing up
> for about an hour given it's an international flight.
>         Go ahead without me.  My main questions are:
> 1.  How important is real-time decision support functionality to them?  If
> they think it is key, who will provide the on-call service?  Doctors in
> Lusaka?  Doctors in the US?  How will this be possible given the time
> difference between Zambia and the US?
>

it's mixed.  It might not be a high percentage of cases.  but the dr.
reiterated that they want feedback within 30-60 minutes of an image sent to
teh central server.

text information to patient personal mobiles.
Additional QA process in addition to just comments on images?
UNAIDS on sending images internationally?


9+ countries from pepfar, will

2.  How do the doctors on-call want to be notified of the need for decision
> support?  The workflow needs to be granularized fully.  Will the doctor
> on-call just want to ring the nurse who sent the image?  A use case diagram
> will be helpful.  How do we capture and document the decision/information
> flow?  This is improtant for QA.
>

I'm thinking nothing is going to stop a doctor from calling a nurse
directly.  There's a paper from a SUNY dermatoliist who does his whole
remote derm. work from the ER vai MMS and phone calls.  So there is a
precedence for this kind of stuff.

But anyway, the scope I'd say for the initial implementation is just going
to be this, the software is only 1 way, nurse to server, server messages Doc
of info via MMS and/or SMS alert.  Doctor will call nurse for their
findings.  Doctor must then follow up on server since the server will show
that it was not updated on the server side, and the server can't know a call
was made, so a doc must go in and self acknowledge that he made a call and
put the diagnosis in.

Future implementations I'd say that the doctor will have special software on
the phone.  We can mandate this since CIDRZ is in full control of its docs,
and have the doc be able to electronically update his findings on the phone
and msg them back to the nurse.

2.  What other functionalities do they want?  How do they want to carry on
> the weekly image reviews that they have now?  Are the doctors planning to
> continue travelling to each area of the country as the programme is rolled
> out?  Or do they envision a tele-medicine type image reviews?
>

This is a tough question from this vantage point.  Once again, nothing is
going to prevent the docs or other nurses from going afield.  This will have
to be discussed as part of their institutional regimen.  However, as far as
the electronic system goes, I'd say that we should be writing the server
component as if it was the primary means of QA/QI by having docs and nurses
discuss over their images.  It's not the scope of this implementation to
look into screen sharing or whiteboards for conferences to discuss the same
image.  Assume asynchronous discussion based communication.

'q's
changes compatible w/ invasive cancer
where does the lesion go?  inside/out?
> 75% cervix area
demog
treatment history?
hiv status
cd4 count?


how do we define metrics?
evaluation of nurses.  track their progress over time.  how close they come
to the expert.

num of patients they refer

put cervical lesions as same categories as attendings.

digital pathology italian pathologists w/o borders
use as comparative for cancer accuracy for histology


3.  How are they envisioning implementation?  I presume they'll pilot the
> real-time functionality in a small area?  I've presumed from my previous
> question that it will be a roll-out implementation across the country.
>

Yeah.  As far as my experience has gone in Zambia, the rollout will probably
start local and/or trusted nurses.  In particular one nurse who's really
good is moving to the other side of the country.  She'd be an ideal
candidate for remote rollout.

4.  What other QA processes should we put in place for the pilot apart from
> a record of the exchange and transfer of information? for the actual
> implementation?
>

I think this might be part of how we build up the phone software to include
2 way communication back?  Electroncially capturing the transaction in
realtime will probably help QA/QI in the long term.

5.  We should also come up with both process and outcome metrics that
> we will track as we implement it from one area to another.  These are
> important if CIDRZ really wants to become established as the center of
> training in cervical cancer screening.  This is my area of expertise and
> would be happy to work with the CIDRZ folks.
>

Metrics as discussed in the call were discussed as thus.  For a pilot
evaluation we will document the ratio of diagnoses the nurses do.  Positive,
negative, indeterminate.  Next, we will also track the accuracy of the
diagnoses the nurses put as compared with the doctors.  Presumably maybe
there needs to be a QA/QI process that evaluates nurse/doctor findings and
assigns a score for each diagnosis after the fact?


6.  Are they going to use the same nurses as we roll out from one area of
> the country to another?  If not, how many nurses need to be trained?  I
> presume the core group of nurses will be responsible for training the nurses
> in other areas of the country?  Have they given this a thought?
>

The training and such is  CIDRZ' responsibility.  They have already a well
defined 8 week training program for nurses.  Their rollout for training and
other things are contingent on funding and other in country issues.
However, the training of practitioners and  experts in countrywide
deployments is CIDRZ' expertise in country.

7. What sort of operational and technical risks are involved in the
> project?  How can we minimize these risks?  Do we have contingency plans for
> those that are most likely to be encountered?
>

One risk/uncertainty I'm concerned about is the reliability of the
cellular/internet infrastructure.  For keeping the ministries of health
pleased (as well as general privacy concerns appeased), we may have
additional overhead on our data that may make communication difficult.  So,
finding contingency plans for this sort of thing looks to be important as
well.




         Andres, I leave the oral presentation in your hands.  Daniel Myung,
> Andres will be presenting on Tuesday in case you haven't been informed yet.
> Andres, please post a blog regarding the conference call and the
> comments/suggestions of the instructors and the rest of the class.  I'll
> make it up when I get back.
> Cheers,
> Leo
>
> *
> *
>
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From dmyung at dimagi.com  Thu Mar 20 23:11:31 2008
From: dmyung at dimagi.com (Daniel Myung)
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 23:11:31 -0400
Subject: [Cidrz] next steps
Message-ID: <46fb10300803202011v546d0546w7848603f750a0e1b@mail.gmail.com>

hey guys,

just wanted to know what your respective status' will be for this project.
the CIDRZ guys are eager for something to test out soon.  Andres, good job
on the presentation, presenting the problem at hand.  Next time we could use
some more textual notes for the audience to get a handle on the issue at
hand, but overall, I think the simplicity of our solution is pretty self
explanatory.

Anyway, I saw the sample code Andres wrote for the Nokia N82.  Looks like
camera control is doable.  For the time being let's not worry about optimal
lighting and such, (I've got a contact i'm working with on that) and just
focus on data collection and transmission.

One hope is to get http://ict4dev.dimagi.com/ up and running for the docs at
cidrz to provide feedback on the web interface as its being built.

Attached is a study i got from the camera contact I met last week from a
SUNY dermatologist using cell phone imaging as part of his remote diagnosis
system.  It's the results and opinions of 1 doctor, but it's fairly
convincing and corroborates the informal evidence of how the docs and nurses
diagnose their images (via an lcd projector or a TV screen) via low
resolution images.

Dan

-- 
Daniel Myung
Senior Engineer
Dimagi, Inc  |  One Kendall Square  |  Bldg. 400, 4th Floor  |  Cambridge,
MA 02139
work: (617) 621 8595  |  cell: (617) 645 3236
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From andresmh at media.mit.edu  Fri Mar 21 20:50:09 2008
From: andresmh at media.mit.edu (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Andr=E9s_Monroy-Hern=E1ndez?=)
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 20:50:09 -0400
Subject: [Cidrz] [ict4dclass] Copy of presentation slides in pdf format
In-Reply-To: <200803212222.m2LMMNON014138@outgoing.mit.edu>
References: <d0a8a7530803211515r712ca68fk688809a7f4021f36@mail.gmail.com>
	<200803212222.m2LMMNON014138@outgoing.mit.edu>
Message-ID: <d0a8a7530803211750m45fcb87et952699bac54c42bb@mail.gmail.com>

2008/3/21, Guruprakash <gprakash at mit.edu>:
>
>  Hi Andres,
>
> The idea is nice but I still need the deck.
>
>
>
> Thanks!
>
>
>  ------------------------------
>
> *From:* andresmh at andresmh.com [mailto:andresmh at andresmh.com] *On Behalf Of
> *Andr?s Monroy-Hern?ndez
> *Sent:* Friday, March 21, 2008 6:15 PM
> *To:* Guruprakash
> *Subject:* Re: [ict4dclass] Copy of presentation slides in pdf format
>
>
>
> http://channel.media.mit.edu/ict4d/content/assesment-and-planning
>
>  2008/3/20, Guruprakash <gprakash at mit.edu>:
>
> All Teams,
>
>
>
> Please send me a copy of your presentation slides by tomorrow noon for
> future reference.
>
>
>
> Thank you so much,
>
>
>
> Guruprakash.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *Guruprakash*
> *MIT* *2008*
>
>
>
> gprakash at mit.edu
> yahoo: crguruprakash2003
>
> tel:
>
> 6172259785/ 6179092434
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> ict4dclass mailing list
> ict4dclass at mit.edu
> http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/ict4dclass
>
>
>
>
> --
> Andr?s
>



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From andresmh at media.mit.edu  Sat Mar 22 16:44:43 2008
From: andresmh at media.mit.edu (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Andr=E9s_Monroy-Hern=E1ndez?=)
Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2008 16:44:43 -0400
Subject: [Cidrz] next steps
In-Reply-To: <46fb10300803202011v546d0546w7848603f750a0e1b@mail.gmail.com>
References: <46fb10300803202011v546d0546w7848603f750a0e1b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <d0a8a7530803221344r6824e6d0j4c08c5cdf9209abb@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks Daniel.

I'm away all week (spring break), but I'll continue working on the
cellphone app when I come back next week. The app is already taking
pictures, the next step is to be able to upload them to a server.

Leo,

It might be good to look at what the next deliverable is, prepare for
it, start writing up what Daniel sent around from our conf call with
Dr Parham and prepare more questions we might want to send him (he
seemed pretty accessible).


Daniel Myers,

Have you had a chance to look into ORBEON?

Cheers.

2008/3/20, Daniel Myung <dmyung at dimagi.com>:
> hey guys,
>
> just wanted to know what your respective status' will be for this project.
> the CIDRZ guys are eager for something to test out soon.  Andres, good job
> on the presentation, presenting the problem at hand.  Next time we could use
> some more textual notes for the audience to get a handle on the issue at
> hand, but overall, I think the simplicity of our solution is pretty self
> explanatory.
>
> Anyway, I saw the sample code Andres wrote for the Nokia N82.  Looks like
> camera control is doable.  For the time being let's not worry about optimal
> lighting and such, (I've got a contact i'm working with on that) and just
> focus on data collection and transmission.
>
> One hope is to get http://ict4dev.dimagi.com/ up and running for the docs at
> cidrz to provide feedback on the web interface as its being built.
>
> Attached is a study i got from the camera contact I met last week from a
> SUNY dermatologist using cell phone imaging as part of his remote diagnosis
> system.  It's the results and opinions of 1 doctor, but it's fairly
> convincing and corroborates the informal evidence of how the docs and nurses
> diagnose their images (via an lcd projector or a TV screen) via low
> resolution images.
>
> Dan
>
> --
> Daniel Myung
> Senior Engineer
> Dimagi, Inc  |  One Kendall Square  |  Bldg. 400, 4th Floor  |  Cambridge,
> MA 02139
> work: (617) 621 8595  |  cell: (617) 645 3236
> http://www.dimagi.com/
> _______________________________________________
>  Cidrz mailing list
>  Cidrz at mit.edu
>  http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/cidrz
>
>
>


-- 
Andr?s



From andresmh at media.mit.edu  Sat Mar 22 17:19:28 2008
From: andresmh at media.mit.edu (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Andr=E9s_Monroy-Hern=E1ndez?=)
Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2008 17:19:28 -0400
Subject: [Cidrz] Conference Call at Dimagi Office at 4:30 PM
In-Reply-To: <46fb10300803202000x9a84499jea2d6f2f287739f@mail.gmail.com>
References: <46fb10300803161733w584ae635mc9486a201a6e9172@mail.gmail.com>
	<84505.59630.qm@web38009.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<46fb10300803202000x9a84499jea2d6f2f287739f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <d0a8a7530803221419q23f5298hbc6c3c406135763b@mail.gmail.com>

Here are my notes from the meeting

Doctors involved in the project
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
dr. goresbeck parham, University of Alabama
mulindi mwahamuntu, head research at ciderz
(dr. moulinda, miniser of health)


Scenarios:
1. normal pic
2. abnormal pic
option A) can be treated by the nurse at the clinic
option B) patient needs to be sent to the hospital

Q. what pictures should be stored?
A: both A and B) and maybe even 1?

Q. can we handle numbers of referrals?
A. the referrals will not increase at the same rate because the nurses
will get better and our system will help to refer less

number of patients that a nurse refers now: 10/week
with more experience: current referral 10/100 moves to -> 10/1000

Q. how often do you meet face to face?
every week
as the program moves to rural areas it will hard to meet that often

Q. are you OK in not meeting and instead provide feedback using
text-based communication? (sms, email, web-based messages)
yes

Q. opinions on papsmear as the only way to screen?
citology has failed in 3rd world nations
requires infrastructure, difficult to sustain,
not 1 citologist in Zambia, 1-3 years to train, they usually leave, to
UK, SA, Middle East
pathologists, 8 yrs to train, brain drain too

citologist - 50% accuracy in the 1st world, accurate because patient
keeps going every year

visual inspection, acilic acid, screeneed and treated, done by nurses...

* we need criteria (5 to 6 points) for doctors on call to tell the
nurse, why dr feels is abnormal or normal
1. changes compatible invasive cancer
2. if you can see the entire abnomal legion, inside cervical canal
3. seems too large, > 75% cervix, do not treat in clinic, referr
4. _
5. _
6. _

info from nurse to doctors:
age, treated before? failed treatment? hiv status...

Q. metrics to evaluate?
tracking progress of nurses.
how close they come to making full diagnosis, comparable to the expert say?
maybe decrease in # of patients they refer, track their ability put
the cervical lesions in the same boxes, in the same categories, than
the physicians...
digital pathology, italian pathologist w/o borders, sending them some
of the tissue removed,
we can tell their nurses how accurate they are in predicting cancer
based on what the pathologists see on the slide


More tracking:
patients are asked to go back 1 month after treatment to make sure
they are not infected, and cervix is healing,
then 6 months, 12 months...for evaluation

about 20-25% patients follow up
track them down is hard,

as of jan 2006, 2 years, screened 14K patients, 14 clinics, 1 big eval
center, 15 nurses


*someone needs to investigate, intl laws, privacy: we need to ask people!!

2008/3/20, Daniel Myung <dmyung at dimagi.com>:
> comments interspersed below, i left some notes i was annotating down so
> ignore or glean from them as you please.
>
> On 3/16/08, Leo Anthony Celi <leoanthonyceli at yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >         My flight is at 6:30 PM so I was planning to get to the airport by
> 4:30 PM.  Even if I get to the airport by 4 PM, I'm probably queueing up for
> about an hour given it's an international flight.
> >         Go ahead without me.  My main questions are:
> > 1.  How important is real-time decision support functionality to them?  If
> they think it is key, who will provide the on-call service?  Doctors in
> Lusaka?  Doctors in the US?  How will this be possible given the time
> difference between Zambia and the US?
>
> it's mixed.  It might not be a high percentage of cases.  but the dr.
> reiterated that they want feedback within 30-60 minutes of an image sent to
> teh central server.
>
> text information to patient personal mobiles.
>  Additional QA process in addition to just comments on images?
>  UNAIDS on sending images internationally?
>
>
> 9+ countries from pepfar, will
>
> >
> > 2.  How do the doctors on-call want to be notified of the need for
> decision support?  The workflow needs to be granularized fully.  Will the
> doctor on-call just want to ring the nurse who sent the image?  A use case
> diagram will be helpful.  How do we capture and document the
> decision/information flow?  This is improtant for QA.
>
> I'm thinking nothing is going to stop a doctor from calling a nurse
> directly.  There's a paper from a SUNY dermatoliist who does his whole
> remote derm. work from the ER vai MMS and phone calls.  So there is a
> precedence for this kind of stuff.
>
> But anyway, the scope I'd say for the initial implementation is just going
> to be this, the software is only 1 way, nurse to server, server messages Doc
> of info via MMS and/or SMS alert.  Doctor will call nurse for their
> findings.  Doctor must then follow up on server since the server will show
> that it was not updated on the server side, and the server can't know a call
> was made, so a doc must go in and self acknowledge that he made a call and
> put the diagnosis in.
>
> Future implementations I'd say that the doctor will have special software on
> the phone.  We can mandate this since CIDRZ is in full control of its docs,
> and have the doc be able to electronically update his findings on the phone
> and msg them back to the nurse.
>
> >
> > 2.  What other functionalities do they want?  How do they want to carry on
> the weekly image reviews that they have now?  Are the doctors planning to
> continue travelling to each area of the country as the programme is rolled
> out?  Or do they envision a tele-medicine type image reviews?
>
> This is a tough question from this vantage point.  Once again, nothing is
> going to prevent the docs or other nurses from going afield.  This will have
> to be discussed as part of their institutional regimen.  However, as far as
> the electronic system goes, I'd say that we should be writing the server
> component as if it was the primary means of QA/QI by having docs and nurses
> discuss over their images.  It's not the scope of this implementation to
> look into screen sharing or whiteboards for conferences to discuss the same
> image.  Assume asynchronous discussion based communication.
>   'q's
> changes compatible w/ invasive cancer
> where does the lesion go?  inside/out?
> > 75% cervix area
> demog
> treatment history?
> hiv status
> cd4 count?
>
>
> how do we define metrics?
>  evaluation of nurses.  track their progress over time.  how close they come
> to the expert.
>
> num of patients they refer
>
> put cervical lesions as same categories as attendings.
>
> digital pathology italian pathologists w/o borders
>  use as comparative for cancer accuracy for histology
>
>
> >
> > 3.  How are they envisioning implementation?  I presume they'll pilot the
> real-time functionality in a small area?  I've presumed from my previous
> question that it will be a roll-out implementation across the country.
>
> Yeah.  As far as my experience has gone in Zambia, the rollout will probably
> start local and/or trusted nurses.  In particular one nurse who's really
> good is moving to the other side of the country.  She'd be an ideal
> candidate for remote rollout.
>
> >
> > 4.  What other QA processes should we put in place for the pilot apart
> from a record of the exchange and transfer of information? for the actual
> implementation?
>
> I think this might be part of how we build up the phone software to include
> 2 way communication back?  Electroncially capturing the transaction in
> realtime will probably help QA/QI in the long term.
>
> >
> > 5.  We should also come up with both process and outcome metrics that we
> will track as we implement it from one area to another.  These are important
> if CIDRZ really wants to become established as the center of training in
> cervical cancer screening.  This is my area of expertise and would be happy
> to work with the CIDRZ folks.
>
> Metrics as discussed in the call were discussed as thus.  For a pilot
> evaluation we will document the ratio of diagnoses the nurses do.  Positive,
> negative, indeterminate.  Next, we will also track the accuracy of the
> diagnoses the nurses put as compared with the doctors.  Presumably maybe
> there needs to be a QA/QI process that evaluates nurse/doctor findings and
> assigns a score for each diagnosis after the fact?
>
> >
> > 6.  Are they going to use the same nurses as we roll out from one area of
> the country to another?  If not, how many nurses need to be trained?  I
> presume the core group of nurses will be responsible for training the nurses
> in other areas of the country?  Have they given this a thought?
>
> The training and such is  CIDRZ' responsibility.  They have already a well
> defined 8 week training program for nurses.  Their rollout for training and
> other things are contingent on funding and other in country issues.
> However, the training of practitioners and  experts in countrywide
> deployments is CIDRZ' expertise in country.
>
> >
> > 7. What sort of operational and technical risks are involved in the
> project?  How can we minimize these risks?  Do we have contingency plans for
> those that are most likely to be encountered?
>
> One risk/uncertainty I'm concerned about is the reliability of the
> cellular/internet infrastructure.  For keeping the ministries of health
> pleased (as well as general privacy concerns appeased), we may have
> additional overhead on our data that may make communication difficult.  So,
> finding contingency plans for this sort of thing looks to be important as
> well.
>
>
>
> >
> >          Andres, I leave the oral presentation in your hands.  Daniel
> Myung, Andres will be presenting on Tuesday in case you haven't been
> informed yet.  Andres, please post a blog regarding the conference call and
> the comments/suggestions of the instructors and the rest of the class.  I'll
> make it up when I get back.
> > Cheers,
> > Leo
> >
> >
> >
>
> _______________________________________________
>  Cidrz mailing list
>  Cidrz at mit.edu
>  http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/cidrz
>
>


-- 
Andr?s



From leoanthonyceli at yahoo.com  Sat Mar 22 17:50:31 2008
From: leoanthonyceli at yahoo.com (Leo Anthony Celi)
Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2008 14:50:31 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Cidrz] Conference Call at Dimagi Office at 4:30 PM
In-Reply-To: <d0a8a7530803221419q23f5298hbc6c3c406135763b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <602685.23769.qm@web38004.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Thanks.  I will be updating the document.

Andr?s Monroy-Hern?ndez <andresmh at media.mit.edu> wrote:  Here are my notes from the meeting

Doctors involved in the project
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
dr. goresbeck parham, University of Alabama
mulindi mwahamuntu, head research at ciderz
(dr. moulinda, miniser of health)


Scenarios:
1. normal pic
2. abnormal pic
option A) can be treated by the nurse at the clinic
option B) patient needs to be sent to the hospital

Q. what pictures should be stored?
A: both A and B) and maybe even 1?

Q. can we handle numbers of referrals?
A. the referrals will not increase at the same rate because the nurses
will get better and our system will help to refer less

number of patients that a nurse refers now: 10/week
with more experience: current referral 10/100 moves to -> 10/1000

Q. how often do you meet face to face?
every week
as the program moves to rural areas it will hard to meet that often

Q. are you OK in not meeting and instead provide feedback using
text-based communication? (sms, email, web-based messages)
yes

Q. opinions on papsmear as the only way to screen?
citology has failed in 3rd world nations
requires infrastructure, difficult to sustain,
not 1 citologist in Zambia, 1-3 years to train, they usually leave, to
UK, SA, Middle East
pathologists, 8 yrs to train, brain drain too

citologist - 50% accuracy in the 1st world, accurate because patient
keeps going every year

visual inspection, acilic acid, screeneed and treated, done by nurses...

* we need criteria (5 to 6 points) for doctors on call to tell the
nurse, why dr feels is abnormal or normal
1. changes compatible invasive cancer
2. if you can see the entire abnomal legion, inside cervical canal
3. seems too large, > 75% cervix, do not treat in clinic, referr
4. _
5. _
6. _

info from nurse to doctors:
age, treated before? failed treatment? hiv status...

Q. metrics to evaluate?
tracking progress of nurses.
how close they come to making full diagnosis, comparable to the expert say?
maybe decrease in # of patients they refer, track their ability put
the cervical lesions in the same boxes, in the same categories, than
the physicians...
digital pathology, italian pathologist w/o borders, sending them some
of the tissue removed,
we can tell their nurses how accurate they are in predicting cancer
based on what the pathologists see on the slide


More tracking:
patients are asked to go back 1 month after treatment to make sure
they are not infected, and cervix is healing,
then 6 months, 12 months...for evaluation

about 20-25% patients follow up
track them down is hard,

as of jan 2006, 2 years, screened 14K patients, 14 clinics, 1 big eval
center, 15 nurses


*someone needs to investigate, intl laws, privacy: we need to ask people!!

2008/3/20, Daniel Myung :
> comments interspersed below, i left some notes i was annotating down so
> ignore or glean from them as you please.
>
> On 3/16/08, Leo Anthony Celi wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> > My flight is at 6:30 PM so I was planning to get to the airport by
> 4:30 PM. Even if I get to the airport by 4 PM, I'm probably queueing up for
> about an hour given it's an international flight.
> > Go ahead without me. My main questions are:
> > 1. How important is real-time decision support functionality to them? If
> they think it is key, who will provide the on-call service? Doctors in
> Lusaka? Doctors in the US? How will this be possible given the time
> difference between Zambia and the US?
>
> it's mixed. It might not be a high percentage of cases. but the dr.
> reiterated that they want feedback within 30-60 minutes of an image sent to
> teh central server.
>
> text information to patient personal mobiles.
> Additional QA process in addition to just comments on images?
> UNAIDS on sending images internationally?
>
>
> 9+ countries from pepfar, will
>
> >
> > 2. How do the doctors on-call want to be notified of the need for
> decision support? The workflow needs to be granularized fully. Will the
> doctor on-call just want to ring the nurse who sent the image? A use case
> diagram will be helpful. How do we capture and document the
> decision/information flow? This is improtant for QA.
>
> I'm thinking nothing is going to stop a doctor from calling a nurse
> directly. There's a paper from a SUNY dermatoliist who does his whole
> remote derm. work from the ER vai MMS and phone calls. So there is a
> precedence for this kind of stuff.
>
> But anyway, the scope I'd say for the initial implementation is just going
> to be this, the software is only 1 way, nurse to server, server messages Doc
> of info via MMS and/or SMS alert. Doctor will call nurse for their
> findings. Doctor must then follow up on server since the server will show
> that it was not updated on the server side, and the server can't know a call
> was made, so a doc must go in and self acknowledge that he made a call and
> put the diagnosis in.
>
> Future implementations I'd say that the doctor will have special software on
> the phone. We can mandate this since CIDRZ is in full control of its docs,
> and have the doc be able to electronically update his findings on the phone
> and msg them back to the nurse.
>
> >
> > 2. What other functionalities do they want? How do they want to carry on
> the weekly image reviews that they have now? Are the doctors planning to
> continue travelling to each area of the country as the programme is rolled
> out? Or do they envision a tele-medicine type image reviews?
>
> This is a tough question from this vantage point. Once again, nothing is
> going to prevent the docs or other nurses from going afield. This will have
> to be discussed as part of their institutional regimen. However, as far as
> the electronic system goes, I'd say that we should be writing the server
> component as if it was the primary means of QA/QI by having docs and nurses
> discuss over their images. It's not the scope of this implementation to
> look into screen sharing or whiteboards for conferences to discuss the same
> image. Assume asynchronous discussion based communication.
> 'q's
> changes compatible w/ invasive cancer
> where does the lesion go? inside/out?
> > 75% cervix area
> demog
> treatment history?
> hiv status
> cd4 count?
>
>
> how do we define metrics?
> evaluation of nurses. track their progress over time. how close they come
> to the expert.
>
> num of patients they refer
>
> put cervical lesions as same categories as attendings.
>
> digital pathology italian pathologists w/o borders
> use as comparative for cancer accuracy for histology
>
>
> >
> > 3. How are they envisioning implementation? I presume they'll pilot the
> real-time functionality in a small area? I've presumed from my previous
> question that it will be a roll-out implementation across the country.
>
> Yeah. As far as my experience has gone in Zambia, the rollout will probably
> start local and/or trusted nurses. In particular one nurse who's really
> good is moving to the other side of the country. She'd be an ideal
> candidate for remote rollout.
>
> >
> > 4. What other QA processes should we put in place for the pilot apart
> from a record of the exchange and transfer of information? for the actual
> implementation?
>
> I think this might be part of how we build up the phone software to include
> 2 way communication back? Electroncially capturing the transaction in
> realtime will probably help QA/QI in the long term.
>
> >
> > 5. We should also come up with both process and outcome metrics that we
> will track as we implement it from one area to another. These are important
> if CIDRZ really wants to become established as the center of training in
> cervical cancer screening. This is my area of expertise and would be happy
> to work with the CIDRZ folks.
>
> Metrics as discussed in the call were discussed as thus. For a pilot
> evaluation we will document the ratio of diagnoses the nurses do. Positive,
> negative, indeterminate. Next, we will also track the accuracy of the
> diagnoses the nurses put as compared with the doctors. Presumably maybe
> there needs to be a QA/QI process that evaluates nurse/doctor findings and
> assigns a score for each diagnosis after the fact?
>
> >
> > 6. Are they going to use the same nurses as we roll out from one area of
> the country to another? If not, how many nurses need to be trained? I
> presume the core group of nurses will be responsible for training the nurses
> in other areas of the country? Have they given this a thought?
>
> The training and such is CIDRZ' responsibility. They have already a well
> defined 8 week training program for nurses. Their rollout for training and
> other things are contingent on funding and other in country issues.
> However, the training of practitioners and experts in countrywide
> deployments is CIDRZ' expertise in country.
>
> >
> > 7. What sort of operational and technical risks are involved in the
> project? How can we minimize these risks? Do we have contingency plans for
> those that are most likely to be encountered?
>
> One risk/uncertainty I'm concerned about is the reliability of the
> cellular/internet infrastructure. For keeping the ministries of health
> pleased (as well as general privacy concerns appeased), we may have
> additional overhead on our data that may make communication difficult. So,
> finding contingency plans for this sort of thing looks to be important as
> well.
>
>
>
> >
> > Andres, I leave the oral presentation in your hands. Daniel
> Myung, Andres will be presenting on Tuesday in case you haven't been
> informed yet. Andres, please post a blog regarding the conference call and
> the comments/suggestions of the instructors and the rest of the class. I'll
> make it up when I get back.
> > Cheers,
> > Leo
> >
> >
> >
>
> _______________________________________________
> Cidrz mailing list
> Cidrz at mit.edu
> http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/cidrz
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>


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From leoanthonyceli at yahoo.com  Thu Mar 27 21:54:18 2008
From: leoanthonyceli at yahoo.com (Leo Anthony Celi)
Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 18:54:18 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Cidrz] Interesting opportunity
Message-ID: <725435.97536.qm@web38006.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

  McKinsey & Company is holding three exciting summer programs for students working towards advanced professional degrees: Insight Healthcare, Insight Engineering & Science, and Discovery Weekend.  These programs will give non-MBA advanced degree students an insider's look into management consulting.  The comprehensive seminar will cover a range of topics important to those who are exploring alternative career possibilities.  Agenda for the program will include an overview of management consulting, an introduction to the type of work we do, a management consulting case study, and an opportunity to interact and network with colleagues and participate in social activities.

INSIGHT HEALTHCARE
Denver, Colorado
Thursday, July 10 - Sunday, July 13, 2008
Application deadline: May 11, 2008
<http://www.apd.mckinsey.com/jump/insight.asp>

Qualified Applicants for Insight Healthcare should be:
Completing a Ph.D., Post-doc, or Masters degree* in a healthcare related discipline (including biology, chemistry, biomedical engineering, and chemical engineering), an M.D., or a Medical Internship, Residency, or Fellowship
Completion of degree program by 2009 (Medical Interns, Residents, and Fellows completing their program in 2010 are also eligible)
Residing in the United States or Canada
Available to attend the entire event starting Thursday, July 10 at 5:30 pm through Sunday, July 13 at 1:00 pm

INSIGHT ENGINEERING & SCIENCE
Denver, Colorado
Thursday, July 17 - Sunday, July 20, 2008
Application deadline: May 11, 2008
<http://www.apd.mckinsey.com/jump/eng_sci.asp>

Qualified Applicants for Insight Engineering & Science should be:
Completing a Ph.D., Post-doc, or Masters degree* in an engineering or science related discipline, including all engineering disciplines, computer science, economics, mathematics, operations, and physics
Completion of degree program by 2009
Residing in the United States or Canada
Available to attend the entire event starting Thursday, July 17 at 5:30 pm through Sunday, July 20 at 1:00 pm

DISCOVERY WEEKEND
Chicago, Illinois
Friday, August 22 - Sunday, August 24, 2008
Application deadline: June 15, 2008
<http://www.apd.mckinsey.com/jump/discovery.asp>

Qualified Applicants for Discovery Weekend should be:
African American/African or Hispanic/Latino pursuing a non-MBA advanced degree (Ph.D.s, Post-docs, J.D.s, Masters*, M.D.s, and Medical Interns, Residents, and Fellows)
Completion of degree program by 2010
Residing in the United States or Canada
Available to attend the entire event starting Friday evening, August 22 through Sunday afternoon, August 24

No business experience required. All expenses will be paid by McKinsey & Company.
*Eligible 1 - 2 year Masters degree students must have received a Bachelor's degree before July 1, 2005.

Learn more and apply at:
www.apd.mckinsey.com/jump/opportunities <http://www.apd.mckinsey.com/jump/opportunities> 
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From leoanthonyceli at yahoo.com  Thu Mar 27 21:54:31 2008
From: leoanthonyceli at yahoo.com (Leo Anthony Celi)
Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 18:54:31 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Cidrz] Interesting opportunity
Message-ID: <758976.12620.qm@web38008.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

  McKinsey & Company is holding three exciting summer programs for students working towards advanced professional degrees: Insight Healthcare, Insight Engineering & Science, and Discovery Weekend.  These programs will give non-MBA advanced degree students an insider's look into management consulting.  The comprehensive seminar will cover a range of topics important to those who are exploring alternative career possibilities.  Agenda for the program will include an overview of management consulting, an introduction to the type of work we do, a management consulting case study, and an opportunity to interact and network with colleagues and participate in social activities.

INSIGHT HEALTHCARE
Denver, Colorado
Thursday, July 10 - Sunday, July 13, 2008
Application deadline: May 11, 2008
<http://www.apd.mckinsey.com/jump/insight.asp>

Qualified Applicants for Insight Healthcare should be:
Completing a Ph.D., Post-doc, or Masters degree* in a healthcare related discipline (including biology, chemistry, biomedical engineering, and chemical engineering), an M.D., or a Medical Internship, Residency, or Fellowship
Completion of degree program by 2009 (Medical Interns, Residents, and Fellows completing their program in 2010 are also eligible)
Residing in the United States or Canada
Available to attend the entire event starting Thursday, July 10 at 5:30 pm through Sunday, July 13 at 1:00 pm

INSIGHT ENGINEERING & SCIENCE
Denver, Colorado
Thursday, July 17 - Sunday, July 20, 2008
Application deadline: May 11, 2008
<http://www.apd.mckinsey.com/jump/eng_sci.asp>

Qualified Applicants for Insight Engineering & Science should be:
Completing a Ph.D., Post-doc, or Masters degree* in an engineering or science related discipline, including all engineering disciplines, computer science, economics, mathematics, operations, and physics
Completion of degree program by 2009
Residing in the United States or Canada
Available to attend the entire event starting Thursday, July 17 at 5:30 pm through Sunday, July 20 at 1:00 pm

DISCOVERY WEEKEND
Chicago, Illinois
Friday, August 22 - Sunday, August 24, 2008
Application deadline: June 15, 2008
<http://www.apd.mckinsey.com/jump/discovery.asp>

Qualified Applicants for Discovery Weekend should be:
African American/African or Hispanic/Latino pursuing a non-MBA advanced degree (Ph.D.s, Post-docs, J.D.s, Masters*, M.D.s, and Medical Interns, Residents, and Fellows)
Completion of degree program by 2010
Residing in the United States or Canada
Available to attend the entire event starting Friday evening, August 22 through Sunday afternoon, August 24

No business experience required. All expenses will be paid by McKinsey & Company.
*Eligible 1 - 2 year Masters degree students must have received a Bachelor's degree before July 1, 2005.

Learn more and apply at:
www.apd.mckinsey.com/jump/opportunities <http://www.apd.mckinsey.com/jump/opportunities> 
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From leoanthonyceli at yahoo.com  Thu Mar 27 21:56:33 2008
From: leoanthonyceli at yahoo.com (Leo Anthony Celi)
Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 18:56:33 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Cidrz] Interesting Opportunity
Message-ID: <235133.77775.qm@web38002.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

McKinsey & Company is holding three exciting summer programs for students working towards advanced professional degrees: Insight Healthcare, Insight Engineering & Science, and Discovery Weekend.  These programs will give non-MBA advanced degree students an insider's look into management consulting.  The comprehensive seminar will cover a range of topics important to those who are exploring alternative career possibilities.  Agenda for the program will include an overview of management consulting, an introduction to the type of work we do, a management consulting case study, and an opportunity to interact and network with colleagues and participate in social activities.

INSIGHT HEALTHCARE
Denver, Colorado
Thursday, July 10 - Sunday, July 13, 2008
Application deadline: May 11, 2008
<http://www.apd.mckinsey.com/jump/insight.asp>

Qualified Applicants for Insight Healthcare should be:
Completing a Ph.D., Post-doc, or Masters degree* in a healthcare related discipline (including biology, chemistry, biomedical engineering, and chemical engineering), an M.D., or a Medical Internship, Residency, or Fellowship
Completion of degree program by 2009 (Medical Interns, Residents, and Fellows completing their program in 2010 are also eligible)
Residing in the United States or Canada
Available to attend the entire event starting Thursday, July 10 at 5:30 pm through Sunday, July 13 at 1:00 pm

INSIGHT ENGINEERING & SCIENCE
Denver, Colorado
Thursday, July 17 - Sunday, July 20, 2008
Application deadline: May 11, 2008
<http://www.apd.mckinsey.com/jump/eng_sci.asp>

Qualified Applicants for Insight Engineering & Science should be:
Completing a Ph.D., Post-doc, or Masters degree* in an engineering or science related discipline, including all engineering disciplines, computer science, economics, mathematics, operations, and physics
Completion of degree program by 2009
Residing in the United States or Canada
Available to attend the entire event starting Thursday, July 17 at 5:30 pm through Sunday, July 20 at 1:00 pm

DISCOVERY WEEKEND
Chicago, Illinois
Friday, August 22 - Sunday, August 24, 2008
Application deadline: June 15, 2008
<http://www.apd.mckinsey.com/jump/discovery.asp>

Qualified Applicants for Discovery Weekend should be:
African American/African or Hispanic/Latino pursuing a non-MBA advanced degree (Ph.D.s, Post-docs, J.D.s, Masters*, M.D.s, and Medical Interns, Residents, and Fellows)
Completion of degree program by 2010
Residing in the United States or Canada
Available to attend the entire event starting Friday evening, August 22 through Sunday afternoon, August 24

No business experience required. All expenses will be paid by McKinsey & Company.
*Eligible 1 - 2 year Masters degree students must have received a Bachelor's degree before July 1, 2005.

Learn more and apply at:
www.apd.mckinsey.com/jump/opportunities <http://www.apd.mckinsey.com/jump/opportunities> 
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From leoanthonyceli at yahoo.com  Thu Mar 27 21:58:28 2008
From: leoanthonyceli at yahoo.com (Leo Anthony Celi)
Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 18:58:28 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Cidrz] Meeting Wednesday?
Message-ID: <868738.35352.qm@web38007.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

How about meeting on Wednesday (April 2) at 1:30 PM at the Stata cafeteria?
  Cheers,
  Leo
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From andresmh at media.mit.edu  Fri Mar 28 01:32:30 2008
From: andresmh at media.mit.edu (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Andr=E9s_Monroy-Hern=E1ndez?=)
Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2008 01:32:30 -0400
Subject: [Cidrz] Meeting Wednesday?
In-Reply-To: <868738.35352.qm@web38007.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <868738.35352.qm@web38007.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <d0a8a7530803272232u6319a29bxf6c0fe6d9cafd29f@mail.gmail.com>

I can't make it on Wed. Any chance we can meet on Monday 3/31 at 2pm?

2008/3/27, Leo Anthony Celi <leoanthonyceli at yahoo.com>:
> How about meeting on Wednesday (April 2) at 1:30 PM at the Stata cafeteria?
> Cheers,
> Leo
> _______________________________________________
>  Cidrz mailing list
>  Cidrz at mit.edu
>  http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/cidrz
>
>


-- 
Andr?s



From dmyung at dimagi.com  Fri Mar 28 02:49:42 2008
From: dmyung at dimagi.com (Daniel Myung)
Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2008 02:49:42 -0400
Subject: [Cidrz] Meeting Wednesday?
In-Reply-To: <d0a8a7530803272232u6319a29bxf6c0fe6d9cafd29f@mail.gmail.com>
References: <868738.35352.qm@web38007.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<d0a8a7530803272232u6319a29bxf6c0fe6d9cafd29f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <46fb10300803272349o22f10b54ked876e176783c32@mail.gmail.com>

Don't you guys sleep?  GOSH

Monday 2pm I've kept open...it'll be a tight fit for me...are there other
times good?  can we possibly push it earlier on monday to say 1ish?

On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 1:32 AM, Andr?s Monroy-Hern?ndez <
andresmh at media.mit.edu> wrote:

> I can't make it on Wed. Any chance we can meet on Monday 3/31 at 2pm?
>
> 2008/3/27, Leo Anthony Celi <leoanthonyceli at yahoo.com>:
> > How about meeting on Wednesday (April 2) at 1:30 PM at the Stata
> cafeteria?
> > Cheers,
> > Leo
> > _______________________________________________
> >  Cidrz mailing list
> >  Cidrz at mit.edu
> >  http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/cidrz
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> Andr?s
>
> _______________________________________________
> Cidrz mailing list
> Cidrz at mit.edu
> http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/cidrz
>



-- 
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Senior Engineer
Dimagi, Inc | One Kendall Square | Bldg. 400, 4th Floor | Cambridge, MA
02139
work: (617) 621 8595 | cell: (617) 645 3236
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From gari.clifford at gmail.com  Fri Mar 28 07:50:56 2008
From: gari.clifford at gmail.com (Gari Clifford)
Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2008 07:50:56 -0400
Subject: [Cidrz] Meeting Wednesday?
In-Reply-To: <868738.35352.qm@web38007.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <868738.35352.qm@web38007.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <7be6ee2f0803280450v76269a4bs818ed954ddaa291e@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Leo,

I'm away all next week, but I'll keep up with events over email and catch up
the following week.
best
Gari


2008/3/27 Leo Anthony Celi <leoanthonyceli at yahoo.com>:

> How about meeting on Wednesday (April 2) at 1:30 PM at the Stata
> cafeteria?
> Cheers,
> Leo
>
> _______________________________________________
> Cidrz mailing list
> Cidrz at mit.edu
> http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/cidrz
>
>


-- 
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Principal Research Scientist,
Massachusetts Institute of Technology,
Instructor in Biomedical Engineering, HST,
(Harvard-MIT Division of Health Sciences & Technology)
Engineering Manager for the L.C.P. at M.I.T.
(Laboratory for Computational Physiology),
Rm E25-505DA, 45 Carleton St., Cambridge MA 02142
Tel: +16172537937 / +448444368530
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From leoanthonyceli at yahoo.com  Fri Mar 28 08:59:26 2008
From: leoanthonyceli at yahoo.com (Leo Anthony Celi)
Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2008 05:59:26 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Cidrz] Monday Meeting
Message-ID: <231115.89757.qm@web38009.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I'm good for either 1 or 2 PM.  Andres, will 1 PM work for you?
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From andresmh at media.mit.edu  Fri Mar 28 13:02:14 2008
From: andresmh at media.mit.edu (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Andr=E9s_Monroy-Hern=E1ndez?=)
Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2008 13:02:14 -0400
Subject: [Cidrz] Monday Meeting
In-Reply-To: <231115.89757.qm@web38009.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <231115.89757.qm@web38009.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <d0a8a7530803281002h73ec3211x4e8bf24145bcdec0@mail.gmail.com>

1pm works

2008/3/28, Leo Anthony Celi <leoanthonyceli at yahoo.com>:
> I'm good for either 1 or 2 PM.  Andres, will 1 PM work for you?
> Leo
> _______________________________________________
>  Cidrz mailing list
>  Cidrz at mit.edu
>  http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/cidrz
>
>


-- 
Andr?s



From dmyung at dimagi.com  Fri Mar 28 13:04:54 2008
From: dmyung at dimagi.com (Daniel Myung)
Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2008 13:04:54 -0400
Subject: [Cidrz] Monday Meeting
In-Reply-To: <d0a8a7530803281002h73ec3211x4e8bf24145bcdec0@mail.gmail.com>
References: <231115.89757.qm@web38009.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<d0a8a7530803281002h73ec3211x4e8bf24145bcdec0@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <46fb10300803281004v5a6d3213i936a49e04d191292@mail.gmail.com>

actually just moved my afternoon meeting, so the whole afternoon is free.
but let's shoot for 1 anyway?

On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 1:02 PM, Andr?s Monroy-Hern?ndez <
andresmh at media.mit.edu> wrote:

> 1pm works
>
> 2008/3/28, Leo Anthony Celi <leoanthonyceli at yahoo.com>:
> > I'm good for either 1 or 2 PM.  Andres, will 1 PM work for you?
> > Leo
> > _______________________________________________
> >  Cidrz mailing list
> >  Cidrz at mit.edu
> >  http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/cidrz
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> Andr?s
>
> _______________________________________________
> Cidrz mailing list
> Cidrz at mit.edu
> http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/cidrz
>



-- 
Daniel Myung
Senior Engineer
Dimagi, Inc | One Kendall Square | Bldg. 400, 4th Floor | Cambridge, MA
02139
work: (617) 621 8595 | cell: (617) 645 3236
http://www.dimagi.com/
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From leoanthonyceli at yahoo.com  Fri Mar 28 13:07:58 2008
From: leoanthonyceli at yahoo.com (Leo Anthony Celi)
Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2008 10:07:58 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Cidrz] Monday Meeting 1 PM
In-Reply-To: <46fb10300803281004v5a6d3213i936a49e04d191292@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <435479.98244.qm@web38006.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Stata cafeteria
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From leoanthonyceli at yahoo.com  Sun Mar 30 21:52:12 2008
From: leoanthonyceli at yahoo.com (Leo Anthony Celi)
Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2008 18:52:12 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Cidrz] Updated Document
Message-ID: <748406.15582.qm@web38009.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Hi,
         Attached is the document updated with what was discussed during the tele-conference.  I haven't uploaded it yet on Google as I had no internet over the weekend.  Daniel Myung, can you pass it on to the Dimagi/CIDRZ docs?  We need to have them involved through the whole process.  I'd like to ge their comments on the proposed clinical information that will be sent with the image.  I'm happy to communicate with them directly (especially the guy from UAB) but I don't have their email address.  I'll see you guys tomorrow at 1 PM at Stata cafeteria.
  Cheers,
  Leo
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From dmyung at dimagi.com  Mon Mar 31 12:58:56 2008
From: dmyung at dimagi.com (Daniel Myung)
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 12:58:56 -0400
Subject: [Cidrz] interesting tele medicine platform
Message-ID: <46fb10300803310958k443b2cffqa699e7f77ace39f7@mail.gmail.com>

http://ipath.ch/site/

it looks like it has inroads in italy, so I wonder if the italian group you
guys mentioned (as well as CIDRZ) uses this technology.

haven't looked into it much, but it could be an interesting technical read
for integration.  often times these technologies are too specific for the
tasks they were originally built with, so they're more informational than
useful, but who knows.

dan
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