From dmyung at dimagi.com  Thu Apr  3 15:11:09 2008
From: dmyung at dimagi.com (Daniel Myung)
Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2008 15:11:09 -0400
Subject: [Cidrz] FW: CIDRZ and GPRS data
In-Reply-To: <20EF48848EEF21419D1410663746A3AC01923091@celtel3.celtel.co.zm>
References: <20EF48848EEF21419D1410663746A3AC01923091@celtel3.celtel.co.zm>
Message-ID: <46fb10300804031211o36a40864hb85459ff1dd55f3a@mail.gmail.com>

hey guys,

below are some correspondence I had from offficials at CelTel Zambia.  looks
like their pricing structure is reasonable.

i'm estimating that each phone will need the 100MB at least service and the
cidrz server will need the unlimited plan for aggregation and download.

looks like with some special help they can get a static IP within country
for the cell phones.  I'm querying back to see what it means for stuff
outside the world...as the cameroona and US docs would need to get back in
for access as well.

dan

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: John Hameja <Hameja.J at zm.celtel.com>
Date: Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 4:58 AM
Subject: FW: CIDRZ and GPRS data
To: dmyung at dimagi.com
Cc: James Museba <Museba.J at zm.celtel.com>, David Venn <Venn.d at zm.celtel.com>




Hi Daniel

Find answers below in the mail marked in red.

John

Vas and Data Services Manager

*From:* Daniel Myung [*mailto:dmyung at dimagi.com* <dmyung at dimagi.com>]
***Sent:* Monday, March 31, 2008 10:39 PM
***To:* David Venn; Groesbeck Parham; groesbeck parham
***Subject:* CIDRZ and GPRS data

Hi Mr. Venn,

We spoke briefly over the phone a few months back in regards to a software
development project with CIDRZ involving sending data over GPRS.  CC'd to
this message is Dr. Parham, the lead point of contact on this effort.  The
following message asks a flurry of questions in regards to the state of GPRS
and MMS in Zambia.  We'd like to
get a better sense of what costs to consider when scaling out a nationwide
service over CelTel's network.

The project particulars are as such:

In a clinic a nurse will take a picture of a patient for diagnosis and
evaluation.  The image and corresponding data will be sent via GPRS to a
central server in CIDRZ's offices.  The CIDRZ office server will then MMS
the image to a doctor for his/her review.

A few assumptions we will be making in a pilot implementation.

First, we will assume that the software we develop will streamline the
preparation of the data package.
Next, we will assume that the nurse is in a place with reasonable coverage
such that GPRS (or even better, EDGE) is available to make the transmission.

Of concern though is the actual route that the data will take from the phone
out in say, Choma, back to CIDRZ in Lusaka.
This is local traffic and therefore it will routed locally on a secure pipe.

If the server has an internet connection (and static IP address) assigned by
iConnect, how will GPRS data route through the internet, will it it hit out
via satellite and back in?
There are two options to this approach,

1. we plug-in a GPRS router into Server/Lan from GPRS side then you will
have the ability to plug more servers or

    computers to this router.

 2. Install a GPRS card on your server and then you will not be required to
use iConnect internet service for this

     purpose.

If the server has a GPRS or EDGE card, will it have a static IP or have a
DNS entry understandable such that a CelTel GRPS packet will never leave
CelTel's internal routers?
We shall assign you a separate Access Point Name (APN) and dedicate all
CIDRZ traffic to this channel and then you shall have fixed IP addresses.

If we go the route of the CIDRZ server having a GPRS/EDGE card for receiving
all inbound data from all over the country, what sort of pricing plans are
available?

Celtel access to GPRS network:
Pay per use - K1,600 per MB  -  1579

15MB/month - K19,500          - Correct
100MB/month - K85,000        - Correct

Below is a pricelist I saw off the web for GPRS coverage, numbers from from
July 2007.

Pay per use - K1,600 per MB  -  1579

15MB/month - K19,500          - Correct
100MB/month - K85,000        - Correct

I guess a concern is a centralized aggregation site with a "pay for
bandwidth" doesn't make it easy for CIDRZ to scale this service nationwide.
Does CelTel have an unlimited monthly data plan for computers?  Also, phone
plans with unlimited data are of interest too.
Marketing to advise as they are still working on the pricing stracture on
this.

I would love the chance to speak with you again.  I'm currently in the
states in Boston, if there's a time convenient for you to chat on this, I'd
really appreciate it.

Many thanks,

Dan

--
Daniel Myung
Senior Engineer
Dimagi, Inc | One Kendall Square | Bldg. 400, 4th Floor | Cambridge, MA
02139
work: (617) 621 8595 | cell: (617) 645 3236
*http://www.dimagi.com/* <http://www.dimagi.com/>
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From leoanthonyceli at yahoo.com  Thu Apr  3 23:24:37 2008
From: leoanthonyceli at yahoo.com (Leo Anthony Celi)
Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2008 20:24:37 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Cidrz] Dimagi Office at 3 PM Friday
Message-ID: <993292.7259.qm@web38014.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Hi,
         Attached is an updated version of the clinical information which I thought should accompany the images.  I guess we can start coding these using either J2ME or JavaRosa.
         I've also attached what is perhaps the mpst relevant paper to what we're trying to achieve.  Ive' spoken this afternoon with the authors of this paper from the School of Public Health.  They do a lot of mathematical modeling for these type of projects for cost-effecttiveness analysis.  Such a model will be able to help us demonstrate the value of what were doing, the most cost-effective frequency of screening, among other things.  If CIDRZ is really serious in establishing itself as the center of excellence for cervical screening program in all of Sub-Saharan Africa, they need to be doing these type of analyses.  I'll start working on this in July when I commence my MPH at the School of Public Health.  We can talk more about this tomorrow during our meeting at 3 PM at the Dimagi office.
          I'll continue working on our metrics form, which will include how we're planning to track these metrics and how exactly this data would be fedback to the stakeholders .
         I'll see you guys tomorrow during our meeting.
  Cheers,
  Leo
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From leoanthonyceli at yahoo.com  Thu Apr  3 23:27:12 2008
From: leoanthonyceli at yahoo.com (Leo Anthony Celi)
Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2008 20:27:12 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Cidrz] P.S.
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        I'll scribble something for our weekly blog over the weekend.
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From dmyung at dimagi.com  Fri Apr  4 11:10:52 2008
From: dmyung at dimagi.com (Daniel Myung)
Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 11:10:52 -0400
Subject: [Cidrz] Fwd: CIDRZ and GPRS data
In-Reply-To: <BLU124-W24163AEE3F9051F0CB7D3EC9F60@phx.gbl>
References: <20EF48848EEF21419D1410663746A3AC01923091@celtel3.celtel.co.zm>
	<46fb10300804031223n1f75a4eet6eee8d14e900d67c@mail.gmail.com>
	<BLU124-W24163AEE3F9051F0CB7D3EC9F60@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <46fb10300804040810h7e8b888djc4c575febfb0985a@mail.gmail.com>

quick email reply i got from the docs in regards to average workload.

# 1 was for a clinic, which wasn't the best of questions to ask.

# 2 was a camera's average workload...so that's a more measurable chunk.  i
think, but here is a good number for us to start from.

 here are our answers:
1. It depends on how small we make them
2. Average = 20 patients/day x 5 days week x 4 weeks = 400
pictures/month/clinic that need to be archived.

parham


 ------------------------------
Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2008 15:23:31 -0400
From: dmyung at dimagi.com
To: Groesbeck.Parham at cidrz.org; doctorparham at hotmail.com
Subject: Fwd: FW: CIDRZ and GPRS data


Hi Dr P,

below is a reply I got from the Celtel guys.  Looks promising.

In building a cost estimate for data infrastructure, I was wondering:

What is the current workload for a single nurse and/or clinic per month?  In
other words, what is the monthly workload for a camera in a clinic/exam
room?  We want to do some number crunching to see what the data requirements
are for sending every image to the server for archiving.  The 100MB per
month seems reasonable, David Venn says there is an unlimited plan as well,
which is vital for the cidrz server to have to receive all the images coming
in from all the clinics.

Thanks,

Dan

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: *John Hameja* <Hameja.J at zm.celtel.com>
Date: Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 4:58 AM
Subject: FW: CIDRZ and GPRS data
To: dmyung at dimagi.com
Cc: James Museba <Museba.J at zm.celtel.com>, David Venn <Venn.d at zm.celtel.com>




Hi Daniel

Find answers below in the mail marked in red.

John

Vas and Data Services Manager

*From:* Daniel Myung [*mailto:dmyung at dimagi.com* <dmyung at dimagi.com>]
***Sent:* Monday, March 31, 2008 10:39 PM
***To:* David Venn; Groesbeck Parham; groesbeck parham
***Subject:* CIDRZ and GPRS data

Hi Mr. Venn,

We spoke briefly over the phone a few months back in regards to a software
development project with CIDRZ involving sending data over GPRS.  CC'd to
this message is Dr. Parham, the lead point of contact on this effort.  The
following message asks a flurry of questions in regards to the state of GPRS
and MMS in Zambia.  We'd like to
get a better sense of what costs to consider when scaling out a nationwide
service over CelTel's network.

The project particulars are as such:

In a clinic a nurse will take a picture of a patient for diagnosis and
evaluation.  The image and corresponding data will be sent via GPRS to a
central server in CIDRZ's offices.  The CIDRZ office server will then MMS
the image to a doctor for his/her review.

A few assumptions we will be making in a pilot implementation.

First, we will assume that the software we develop will streamline the
preparation of the data package.
Next, we will assume that the nurse is in a place with reasonable coverage
such that GPRS (or even better, EDGE) is available to make the transmission.

Of concern though is the actual route that the data will take from the phone
out in say, Choma, back to CIDRZ in Lusaka.
This is local traffic and therefore it will routed locally on a secure pipe.

If the server has an internet connection (and static IP address) assigned by
iConnect, how will GPRS data route through the internet, will it it hit out
via satellite and back in?
There are two options to this approach,

1. we plug-in a GPRS router into Server/Lan from GPRS side then you will
have the ability to plug more servers or

    computers to this router.

 2. Install a GPRS card on your server and then you will not be required to
use iConnect internet service for this

     purpose.

If the server has a GPRS or EDGE card, will it have a static IP or have a
DNS entry understandable such that a CelTel GRPS packet will never leave
CelTel's internal routers?
We shall assign you a separate Access Point Name (APN) and dedicate all
CIDRZ traffic to this channel and then you shall have fixed IP addresses.

If we go the route of the CIDRZ server having a GPRS/EDGE card for receiving
all inbound data from all over the country, what sort of pricing plans are
available?

Celtel access to GPRS network:
Pay per use - K1,600 per MB  -  1579

15MB/month - K19,500          - Correct
100MB/month - K85,000        - Correct

Below is a pricelist I saw off the web for GPRS coverage, numbers from from
July 2007.

Pay per use - K1,600 per MB  -  1579

15MB/month - K19,500          - Correct
100MB/month - K85,000        - Correct

I guess a concern is a centralized aggregation site with a "pay for
bandwidth" doesn't make it easy for CIDRZ to scale this service nationwide.
Does CelTel have an unlimited monthly data plan for computers?  Also, phone
plans with unlimited data are of interest too.
Marketing to advise as they are still working on the pricing stracture on
this.

I would love the chance to speak with you again.  I'm currently in the
states in Boston, if there's a time convenient for you to chat on this, I'd
really appreciate it.

Many thanks,

Dan

--
Daniel Myung
Senior Engineer
Dimagi, Inc | One Kendall Square | Bldg. 400, 4th Floor | Cambridge, MA
02139
work: (617) 621 8595 | cell: (617) 645 3236
*http://www.dimagi.com/* <http://www.dimagi.com/>
------------------------------
*Disclaimer:*
This message is for the named person's use only.  It may contain
confidential, proprietary or legally privileged information.  No
confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost by any mistransmission.  If
you receive this message in error, please immediately delete it and all
copies of it from your system, destroy any hard copies of it and notify the
sender.  You must not, directly or indirectly, use, disclose, distribute,
print, or copy any part of this message if you are not the intended
recipient. *CELTEL ZAMBIA *and any of its subsidiaries each reserve the
right to monitor all e-mail communications through its networks.
Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender,
except where the message states otherwise and the sender is authorized to
state them to be the views of any such entity.

 ------------------------------



-- 
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Senior Engineer
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02139
work: (617) 621 8595 | cell: (617) 645 3236
http://www.dimagi.com/


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From andresmh at media.mit.edu  Fri Apr  4 12:28:41 2008
From: andresmh at media.mit.edu (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Andr=E9s_Monroy-Hern=E1ndez?=)
Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 12:28:41 -0400
Subject: [Cidrz] FW: CIDRZ and GPRS data
In-Reply-To: <46fb10300804031211o36a40864hb85459ff1dd55f3a@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20EF48848EEF21419D1410663746A3AC01923091@celtel3.celtel.co.zm>
	<46fb10300804031211o36a40864hb85459ff1dd55f3a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <d0a8a7530804040928p63491f55rff3046de4e5e10d3@mail.gmail.com>

What is iConnect?

2008/4/3, Daniel Myung <dmyung at dimagi.com>:
>
> hey guys,
>
> below are some correspondence I had from offficials at CelTel Zambia.
> looks like their pricing structure is reasonable.
>
> i'm estimating that each phone will need the 100MB at least service and
> the cidrz server will need the unlimited plan for aggregation and download.
>
>
> looks like with some special help they can get a static IP within country
> for the cell phones.  I'm querying back to see what it means for stuff
> outside the world...as the cameroona and US docs would need to get back in
> for access as well.
>
> dan
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: John Hameja <Hameja.J at zm.celtel.com>
> Date: Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 4:58 AM
> Subject: FW: CIDRZ and GPRS data
> To: dmyung at dimagi.com
> Cc: James Museba <Museba.J at zm.celtel.com>, David Venn <
> Venn.d at zm.celtel.com>
>
>
>
>
> Hi Daniel
>
> Find answers below in the mail marked in red.
>
> John
>
> Vas and Data Services Manager
>
> *From:* Daniel Myung [*mailto:dmyung at dimagi.com* <dmyung at dimagi.com>]
> ***Sent:* Monday, March 31, 2008 10:39 PM
> ***To:* David Venn; Groesbeck Parham; groesbeck parham
> ***Subject:* CIDRZ and GPRS data
>
> Hi Mr. Venn,
>
> We spoke briefly over the phone a few months back in regards to a software
> development project with CIDRZ involving sending data over GPRS.  CC'd to
> this message is Dr. Parham, the lead point of contact on this effort.  The
> following message asks a flurry of questions in regards to the state of GPRS
> and MMS in Zambia.  We'd like to
>  get a better sense of what costs to consider when scaling out a
> nationwide service over CelTel's network.
>
> The project particulars are as such:
>
> In a clinic a nurse will take a picture of a patient for diagnosis and
> evaluation.  The image and corresponding data will be sent via GPRS to a
> central server in CIDRZ's offices.  The CIDRZ office server will then MMS
> the image to a doctor for his/her review.
>
> A few assumptions we will be making in a pilot implementation.
>
> First, we will assume that the software we develop will streamline the
> preparation of the data package.
> Next, we will assume that the nurse is in a place with reasonable coverage
> such that GPRS (or even better, EDGE) is available to make the transmission.
>
> Of concern though is the actual route that the data will take from the
> phone out in say, Choma, back to CIDRZ in Lusaka.
> This is local traffic and therefore it will routed locally on a secure
> pipe.
>
> If the server has an internet connection (and static IP address) assigned
> by iConnect, how will GPRS data route through the internet, will it it hit
> out via satellite and back in?
> There are two options to this approach,
>
> 1. we plug-in a GPRS router into Server/Lan from GPRS side then you will
> have the ability to plug more servers or
>
>     computers to this router.
>
>  2. Install a GPRS card on your server and then you will not be required
> to use iConnect internet service for this
>
>      purpose.
>
> If the server has a GPRS or EDGE card, will it have a static IP or have a
> DNS entry understandable such that a CelTel GRPS packet will never leave
> CelTel's internal routers?
> We shall assign you a separate Access Point Name (APN) and dedicate all
> CIDRZ traffic to this channel and then you shall have fixed IP addresses.
>
> If we go the route of the CIDRZ server having a GPRS/EDGE card for
> receiving all inbound data from all over the country, what sort of pricing
> plans are available?
>
> Celtel access to GPRS network:
> Pay per use - K1,600 per MB  -  1579
>
> 15MB/month - K19,500          - Correct
> 100MB/month - K85,000        - Correct
>
> Below is a pricelist I saw off the web for GPRS coverage, numbers from
> from July 2007.
>
> Pay per use - K1,600 per MB  -  1579
>
> 15MB/month - K19,500          - Correct
> 100MB/month - K85,000        - Correct
>
> I guess a concern is a centralized aggregation site with a "pay for
> bandwidth" doesn't make it easy for CIDRZ to scale this service nationwide.
> Does CelTel have an unlimited monthly data plan for computers?  Also, phone
> plans with unlimited data are of interest too.
> Marketing to advise as they are still working on the pricing stracture on
> this.
>
> I would love the chance to speak with you again.  I'm currently in the
> states in Boston, if there's a time convenient for you to chat on this, I'd
> really appreciate it.
>
> Many thanks,
>
> Dan
>
> --
> Daniel Myung
> Senior Engineer
> Dimagi, Inc | One Kendall Square | Bldg. 400, 4th Floor | Cambridge, MA
> 02139
> work: (617) 621 8595 | cell: (617) 645 3236
> *http://www.dimagi.com/* <http://www.dimagi.com/>
> ------------------------------
> *Disclaimer:*
> This message is for the named person's use only.  It may contain
> confidential, proprietary or legally privileged information.  No
> confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost by any mistransmission.  If
> you receive this message in error, please immediately delete it and all
> copies of it from your system, destroy any hard copies of it and notify the
> sender.  You must not, directly or indirectly, use, disclose, distribute,
> print, or copy any part of this message if you are not the intended
> recipient. *CELTEL ZAMBIA *and any of its subsidiaries each reserve the
> right to monitor all e-mail communications through its networks.
> Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender,
> except where the message states otherwise and the sender is authorized to
> state them to be the views of any such entity.
>
>  ------------------------------
>
>
>
> --
> Daniel Myung
> Senior Engineer
> Dimagi, Inc | One Kendall Square | Bldg. 400, 4th Floor | Cambridge, MA
> 02139
> work: (617) 621 8595 | cell: (617) 645 3236
> http://www.dimagi.com/
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From dmyung at dimagi.com  Fri Apr  4 12:36:31 2008
From: dmyung at dimagi.com (Daniel Myung)
Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 12:36:31 -0400
Subject: [Cidrz] FW: CIDRZ and GPRS data
In-Reply-To: <d0a8a7530804040928p63491f55rff3046de4e5e10d3@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20EF48848EEF21419D1410663746A3AC01923091@celtel3.celtel.co.zm>
	<46fb10300804031211o36a40864hb85459ff1dd55f3a@mail.gmail.com>
	<d0a8a7530804040928p63491f55rff3046de4e5e10d3@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <46fb10300804040936y35d6db90ob3a287051252fd54@mail.gmail.com>

iConnect is one of the leading satellite providers in zambia.  they have a
high up front cost and are not the greatest in terms of connection speed:

http://iconnect.zm/



2008/4/4 Andr?s Monroy-Hern?ndez <andresmh at media.mit.edu>:

> What is iConnect?
>
> 2008/4/3, Daniel Myung <dmyung at dimagi.com>:
> >
> > hey guys,
> >
> > below are some correspondence I had from offficials at CelTel Zambia.
> > looks like their pricing structure is reasonable.
> >
> > i'm estimating that each phone will need the 100MB at least service and
> > the cidrz server will need the unlimited plan for aggregation and download.
> >
> >
> > looks like with some special help they can get a static IP within
> > country for the cell phones.  I'm querying back to see what it means for
> > stuff outside the world...as the cameroona and US docs would need to get
> > back in for access as well.
> >
> > dan
> >
> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > From: John Hameja <Hameja.J at zm.celtel.com>
> > Date: Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 4:58 AM
> > Subject: FW: CIDRZ and GPRS data
> > To: dmyung at dimagi.com
> > Cc: James Museba <Museba.J at zm.celtel.com>, David Venn <
> > Venn.d at zm.celtel.com>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi Daniel
> >
> > Find answers below in the mail marked in red.
> >
> > John
> >
> > Vas and Data Services Manager
> >
> > *From:* Daniel Myung [*mailto:dmyung at dimagi.com* <dmyung at dimagi.com>]
> > ***Sent:* Monday, March 31, 2008 10:39 PM
> > ***To:* David Venn; Groesbeck Parham; groesbeck parham
> > ***Subject:* CIDRZ and GPRS data
> >
> > Hi Mr. Venn,
> >
> > We spoke briefly over the phone a few months back in regards to a
> > software development project with CIDRZ involving sending data over GPRS.
> > CC'd to this message is Dr. Parham, the lead point of contact on this
> > effort.  The following message asks a flurry of questions in regards to the
> > state of GPRS and MMS in Zambia.  We'd like to
> >  get a better sense of what costs to consider when scaling out a
> > nationwide service over CelTel's network.
> >
> > The project particulars are as such:
> >
> > In a clinic a nurse will take a picture of a patient for diagnosis and
> > evaluation.  The image and corresponding data will be sent via GPRS to a
> > central server in CIDRZ's offices.  The CIDRZ office server will then MMS
> > the image to a doctor for his/her review.
> >
> > A few assumptions we will be making in a pilot implementation.
> >
> > First, we will assume that the software we develop will streamline the
> > preparation of the data package.
> > Next, we will assume that the nurse is in a place with reasonable
> > coverage such that GPRS (or even better, EDGE) is available to make the
> > transmission.
> >
> > Of concern though is the actual route that the data will take from the
> > phone out in say, Choma, back to CIDRZ in Lusaka.
> > This is local traffic and therefore it will routed locally on a secure
> > pipe.
> >
> > If the server has an internet connection (and static IP address)
> > assigned by iConnect, how will GPRS data route through the internet, will it
> > it hit out via satellite and back in?
> > There are two options to this approach,
> >
> > 1. we plug-in a GPRS router into Server/Lan from GPRS side then you will
> > have the ability to plug more servers or
> >
> >     computers to this router.
> >
> >  2. Install a GPRS card on your server and then you will not be required
> > to use iConnect internet service for this
> >
> >      purpose.
> >
> > If the server has a GPRS or EDGE card, will it have a static IP or have
> > a DNS entry understandable such that a CelTel GRPS packet will never leave
> > CelTel's internal routers?
> > We shall assign you a separate Access Point Name (APN) and dedicate all
> > CIDRZ traffic to this channel and then you shall have fixed IP addresses.
> >
> > If we go the route of the CIDRZ server having a GPRS/EDGE card for
> > receiving all inbound data from all over the country, what sort of pricing
> > plans are available?
> >
> > Celtel access to GPRS network:
> > Pay per use - K1,600 per MB  -  1579
> >
> > 15MB/month - K19,500          - Correct
> > 100MB/month - K85,000        - Correct
> >
> > Below is a pricelist I saw off the web for GPRS coverage, numbers from
> > from July 2007.
> >
> > Pay per use - K1,600 per MB  -  1579
> >
> > 15MB/month - K19,500          - Correct
> > 100MB/month - K85,000        - Correct
> >
> > I guess a concern is a centralized aggregation site with a "pay for
> > bandwidth" doesn't make it easy for CIDRZ to scale this service nationwide.
> > Does CelTel have an unlimited monthly data plan for computers?  Also, phone
> > plans with unlimited data are of interest too.
> > Marketing to advise as they are still working on the pricing stracture
> > on this.
> >
> > I would love the chance to speak with you again.  I'm currently in the
> > states in Boston, if there's a time convenient for you to chat on this, I'd
> > really appreciate it.
> >
> > Many thanks,
> >
> > Dan
> >
> > --
> > Daniel Myung
> > Senior Engineer
> > Dimagi, Inc | One Kendall Square | Bldg. 400, 4th Floor | Cambridge, MA
> > 02139
> > work: (617) 621 8595 | cell: (617) 645 3236
> > *http://www.dimagi.com/* <http://www.dimagi.com/>
> > ------------------------------
> > *Disclaimer:*
> > This message is for the named person's use only.  It may contain
> > confidential, proprietary or legally privileged information.  No
> > confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost by any mistransmission.  If
> > you receive this message in error, please immediately delete it and all
> > copies of it from your system, destroy any hard copies of it and notify the
> > sender.  You must not, directly or indirectly, use, disclose, distribute,
> > print, or copy any part of this message if you are not the intended
> > recipient. *CELTEL ZAMBIA *and any of its subsidiaries each reserve the
> > right to monitor all e-mail communications through its networks.
> > Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender,
> > except where the message states otherwise and the sender is authorized to
> > state them to be the views of any such entity.
> >
> >  ------------------------------
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Daniel Myung
> > Senior Engineer
> > Dimagi, Inc | One Kendall Square | Bldg. 400, 4th Floor | Cambridge, MA
> > 02139
> > work: (617) 621 8595 | cell: (617) 645 3236
> > http://www.dimagi.com/
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> >
> >
>
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>


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02139
work: (617) 621 8595 | cell: (617) 645 3236
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From andresmh at media.mit.edu  Fri Apr  4 13:09:58 2008
From: andresmh at media.mit.edu (andresmh@media.mit.edu)
Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 13:09:58 -0400
Subject: [Cidrz] FW: CIDRZ and GPRS data
In-Reply-To: <46fb10300804040936y35d6db90ob3a287051252fd54@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20EF48848EEF21419D1410663746A3AC01923091@celtel3.celtel.co.zm>
	<46fb10300804031211o36a40864hb85459ff1dd55f3a@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <d0a8a7530804041009p755ecf95u1b6ee09616629185@mail.gmail.com>

i wonder if the connection from the phone to a server on the i connect
network is slower than if the server was in the US, Europe or south
africa, where probably connection is cheaper and better

2008/4/4, Daniel Myung <dmyung at dimagi.com>:
> iConnect is one of the leading satellite providers in zambia.  they have a
> high up front cost and are not the greatest in terms of connection speed:
>
> http://iconnect.zm/
>
>
>
> 2008/4/4 Andr?s Monroy-Hern?ndez <andresmh at media.mit.edu>:
>
> > What is iConnect?
> >
> > 2008/4/3, Daniel Myung <dmyung at dimagi.com>:
> > >
> > > hey guys,
> > >
> > > below are some correspondence I had from offficials at CelTel Zambia.
> > > looks like their pricing structure is reasonable.
> > >
> > > i'm estimating that each phone will need the 100MB at least service and
> > > the cidrz server will need the unlimited plan for aggregation and
> download.
> > >
> > >
> > > looks like with some special help they can get a static IP within
> > > country for the cell phones.  I'm querying back to see what it means for
> > > stuff outside the world...as the cameroona and US docs would need to get
> > > back in for access as well.
> > >
> > > dan
> > >
> > > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > > From: John Hameja <Hameja.J at zm.celtel.com>
> > > Date: Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 4:58 AM
> > > Subject: FW: CIDRZ and GPRS data
> > > To: dmyung at dimagi.com
> > > Cc: James Museba <Museba.J at zm.celtel.com>, David Venn <
> > > Venn.d at zm.celtel.com>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi Daniel
> > >
> > > Find answers below in the mail marked in red.
> > >
> > > John
> > >
> > > Vas and Data Services Manager
> > >
> > > *From:* Daniel Myung [*mailto:dmyung at dimagi.com* <dmyung at dimagi.com>]
> > > ***Sent:* Monday, March 31, 2008 10:39 PM
> > > ***To:* David Venn; Groesbeck Parham; groesbeck parham
> > > ***Subject:* CIDRZ and GPRS data
> > >
> > > Hi Mr. Venn,
> > >
> > > We spoke briefly over the phone a few months back in regards to a
> > > software development project with CIDRZ involving sending data over
> GPRS.
> > > CC'd to this message is Dr. Parham, the lead point of contact on this
> > > effort.  The following message asks a flurry of questions in regards to
> the
> > > state of GPRS and MMS in Zambia.  We'd like to
> > >  get a better sense of what costs to consider when scaling out a
> > > nationwide service over CelTel's network.
> > >
> > > The project particulars are as such:
> > >
> > > In a clinic a nurse will take a picture of a patient for diagnosis and
> > > evaluation.  The image and corresponding data will be sent via GPRS to a
> > > central server in CIDRZ's offices.  The CIDRZ office server will then
> MMS
> > > the image to a doctor for his/her review.
> > >
> > > A few assumptions we will be making in a pilot implementation.
> > >
> > > First, we will assume that the software we develop will streamline the
> > > preparation of the data package.
> > > Next, we will assume that the nurse is in a place with reasonable
> > > coverage such that GPRS (or even better, EDGE) is available to make the
> > > transmission.
> > >
> > > Of concern though is the actual route that the data will take from the
> > > phone out in say, Choma, back to CIDRZ in Lusaka.
> > > This is local traffic and therefore it will routed locally on a secure
> > > pipe.
> > >
> > > If the server has an internet connection (and static IP address)
> > > assigned by iConnect, how will GPRS data route through the internet,
> will it
> > > it hit out via satellite and back in?
> > > There are two options to this approach,
> > >
> > > 1. we plug-in a GPRS router into Server/Lan from GPRS side then you will
> > > have the ability to plug more servers or
> > >
> > >     computers to this router.
> > >
> > >  2. Install a GPRS card on your server and then you will not be required
> > > to use iConnect internet service for this
> > >
> > >      purpose.
> > >
> > > If the server has a GPRS or EDGE card, will it have a static IP or have
> > > a DNS entry understandable such that a CelTel GRPS packet will never
> leave
> > > CelTel's internal routers?
> > > We shall assign you a separate Access Point Name (APN) and dedicate all
> > > CIDRZ traffic to this channel and then you shall have fixed IP
> addresses.
> > >
> > > If we go the route of the CIDRZ server having a GPRS/EDGE card for
> > > receiving all inbound data from all over the country, what sort of
> pricing
> > > plans are available?
> > >
> > > Celtel access to GPRS network:
> > > Pay per use - K1,600 per MB  -  1579
> > >
> > > 15MB/month - K19,500          - Correct
> > > 100MB/month - K85,000        - Correct
> > >
> > > Below is a pricelist I saw off the web for GPRS coverage, numbers from
> > > from July 2007.
> > >
> > > Pay per use - K1,600 per MB  -  1579
> > >
> > > 15MB/month - K19,500          - Correct
> > > 100MB/month - K85,000        - Correct
> > >
> > > I guess a concern is a centralized aggregation site with a "pay for
> > > bandwidth" doesn't make it easy for CIDRZ to scale this service
> nationwide.
> > > Does CelTel have an unlimited monthly data plan for computers?  Also,
> phone
> > > plans with unlimited data are of interest too.
> > > Marketing to advise as they are still working on the pricing stracture
> > > on this.
> > >
> > > I would love the chance to speak with you again.  I'm currently in the
> > > states in Boston, if there's a time convenient for you to chat on this,
> I'd
> > > really appreciate it.
> > >
> > > Many thanks,
> > >
> > > Dan
> > >
> > > --
> > > Daniel Myung
> > > Senior Engineer
> > > Dimagi, Inc | One Kendall Square | Bldg. 400, 4th Floor | Cambridge, MA
> > > 02139
> > > work: (617) 621 8595 | cell: (617) 645 3236
> > > *http://www.dimagi.com/* <http://www.dimagi.com/>
> > > ------------------------------
> > > *Disclaimer:*
> > > This message is for the named person's use only.  It may contain
> > > confidential, proprietary or legally privileged information.  No
> > > confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost by any mistransmission.
> If
> > > you receive this message in error, please immediately delete it and all
> > > copies of it from your system, destroy any hard copies of it and notify
> the
> > > sender.  You must not, directly or indirectly, use, disclose,
> distribute,
> > > print, or copy any part of this message if you are not the intended
> > > recipient. *CELTEL ZAMBIA *and any of its subsidiaries each reserve the
> > > right to monitor all e-mail communications through its networks.
> > > Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender,
> > > except where the message states otherwise and the sender is authorized
> to
> > > state them to be the views of any such entity.
> > >
> > >  ------------------------------
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Daniel Myung
> > > Senior Engineer
> > > Dimagi, Inc | One Kendall Square | Bldg. 400, 4th Floor | Cambridge, MA
> > > 02139
> > > work: (617) 621 8595 | cell: (617) 645 3236
> > > http://www.dimagi.com/
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Cidrz mailing list
> > > Cidrz at mit.edu
> > > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/cidrz
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Andr?s
> > _______________________________________________
> > Cidrz mailing list
> > Cidrz at mit.edu
> > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/cidrz
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> Daniel Myung
> Senior Engineer
> Dimagi, Inc | One Kendall Square | Bldg. 400, 4th Floor | Cambridge, MA
> 02139
> work: (617) 621 8595 | cell: (617) 645 3236
> http://www.dimagi.com/
>


-- 
Andr?s



From dmyung at dimagi.com  Fri Apr  4 13:17:52 2008
From: dmyung at dimagi.com (Daniel Myung)
Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 13:17:52 -0400
Subject: [Cidrz] Fwd: FW: CIDRZ and GPRS data
In-Reply-To: <20EF48848EEF21419D1410663746A3AC019FAABB@celtel3.celtel.co.zm>
References: <20EF48848EEF21419D1410663746A3AC019FAABB@celtel3.celtel.co.zm>
Message-ID: <46fb10300804041017h4c3f4e8cob15f729e5a9bf56f@mail.gmail.com>

correspondence from the celtel guys.

236 kilo BIT, not great.

phone to iconnect may be faster i think especially if there was *tons* of
messages routing to a server back in CIDRZ since cidrz will be on an
iconnect pipe.
the big issue is though is that cidrz access from zambia to a server in the
US for example will probably piss off every minister in the MOH in zambia.

also, the latency running an app across the pond is rather atrocious.  we
run our source control off of visual studio team foundation and the latency
for simple tasks is horrible since we're going to space and back.

bandwidth might be better when it comes to scaling up, but latency suffers
tremendously.

dan

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: John Hameja <Hameja.J at zm.celtel.com>
Date: Fri, Apr 4, 2008 at 12:35 PM
Subject: RE: FW: CIDRZ and GPRS data
To: Daniel Myung <dmyung at dimagi.com>
Cc: James Museba <Museba.J at zm.celtel.com>, David Venn <Venn.d at zm.celtel.com>




Hi Daniel



Yes you shall be able to log-on to your machine depending on how you want to
do your network. We can assign a public ip address for your remote logins.



No we don't have hosting solutions however the concept is being worked on.



Find attached APN network topologies.



John


 ------------------------------

*From:* Daniel Myung [mailto:dmyung at dimagi.com]
*Sent:* Friday, April 04, 2008 6:11 PM
*To:* John Hameja
*Cc:* James Museba; David Venn
*Subject:* Re: FW: CIDRZ and GPRS data



Thanks,

We also anticipate HTTP and other TCP traffic from outside of Zambia to log
in.  Do you have external world visible IPs that can be used to route
internally to CIDRZ's server?  Do you have hosting solutions and/or ways to
grant CIDRZ access to such an IP for external connectivity?

Dan

On Fri, Apr 4, 2008 at 12:01 PM, John Hameja <Hameja.J at zm.celtel.com> wrote:



Hi Daniel



Yes the IP addresses that will be assigned to you shall be private ? meaning
that within Celtel GPRS network. However, sending and receiving of mms
outside private IP range will not be a problem as this will be normal
internet traffic through our public IP addresses.



John


 ------------------------------

*From:* Daniel Myung [mailto:dmyung at dimagi.com]
*Sent:* Thursday, April 03, 2008 9:19 PM
*To:* John Hameja


*Cc:* James Museba; David Venn

*Subject:* Re: FW: CIDRZ and GPRS data



Hi all,

thanks so much for all this information.  Hit the spot exactly :)

One question though for the celtel static ip.  Is that an internal celtel
centric IP address, or is it world accessible?

the reason I ask is because there is a use case for data aggregated at the
cidrz server to be accessible remotely, as there is a clinic in camerroon
that wants to contribute photos and some doctors stateside that will need to
access via the web some images for their diagnoses as well.

David, to answer your question of MMS vs. Laptop, the answer is both :)

to clarify also on the remote nurse originally sending the images from the
field to central cidrz...we were looking into different transport options.
For security sake since we will be transporting patient information, we will
probably do some variation of an HTTP POST command over SSL.  But yeah, the
short answer for the initial image transfer, it will be via GPRS, not
encapsulated in an MMS.

We are envisioning MMS being part of an alerting system, spawned/originated
from the CIDRZ server after the data has been received from the field.
Doctors will eventually need to login via laptop to a web interface to
provide additional documentation.  But the MMS aspect would be very useful
for a realtime alerting method for docs in country.

Thanks again,

Dan

On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 4:58 AM, John Hameja <Hameja.J at zm.celtel.com> wrote:



Hi Daniel

Find answers below in the mail marked in red.

John

Vas and Data Services Manager

*From:* Daniel Myung [mailto:dmyung at dimagi.com <dmyung at dimagi.com>]
*Sent:* Monday, March 31, 2008 10:39 PM
*To:* David Venn; Groesbeck Parham; groesbeck parham
*Subject:* CIDRZ and GPRS data

Hi Mr. Venn,

We spoke briefly over the phone a few months back in regards to a software
development project with CIDRZ involving sending data over GPRS.  CC'd to
this message is Dr. Parham, the lead point of contact on this effort.  The
following message asks a flurry of questions in regards to the state of GPRS
and MMS in Zambia.  We'd like to

get a better sense of what costs to consider when scaling out a nationwide
service over CelTel's network.



The project particulars are as such:

In a clinic a nurse will take a picture of a patient for diagnosis and
evaluation.  The image and corresponding data will be sent via GPRS to a
central server in CIDRZ's offices.  The CIDRZ office server will then MMS
the image to a doctor for his/her review.

A few assumptions we will be making in a pilot implementation.

First, we will assume that the software we develop will streamline the
preparation of the data package.
Next, we will assume that the nurse is in a place with reasonable coverage
such that GPRS (or even better, EDGE) is available to make the transmission.

Of concern though is the actual route that the data will take from the phone
out in say, Choma, back to CIDRZ in Lusaka.

This is local traffic and therefore it will routed locally on a secure pipe.

If the server has an internet connection (and static IP address) assigned by
iConnect, how will GPRS data route through the internet, will it it hit out
via satellite and back in?

There are two options to this approach,

1. we plug-in a GPRS router into Server/Lan from GPRS side then you will
have the ability to plug more servers or

    computers to this router.

 2. Install a GPRS card on your server and then you will not be required to
use iConnect internet service for this

     purpose.

If the server has a GPRS or EDGE card, will it have a static IP or have a
DNS entry understandable such that a CelTel GRPS packet will never leave
CelTel's internal routers?

We shall assign you a separate Access Point Name (APN) and dedicate all
CIDRZ traffic to this channel and then you shall have fixed IP addresses.

If we go the route of the CIDRZ server having a GPRS/EDGE card for receiving
all inbound data from all over the country, what sort of pricing plans are
available?

Celtel access to GPRS network:

Pay per use - K1,600 per MB  -  1579

15MB/month - K19,500          - Correct
100MB/month - K85,000        - Correct

Below is a pricelist I saw off the web for GPRS coverage, numbers from from
July 2007.

Pay per use - K1,600 per MB  -  1579

15MB/month - K19,500          - Correct
100MB/month - K85,000        - Correct



I guess a concern is a centralized aggregation site with a "pay for
bandwidth" doesn't make it easy for CIDRZ to scale this service nationwide.
Does CelTel have an unlimited monthly data plan for computers?  Also, phone
plans with unlimited data are of interest too.

Marketing to advise as they are still working on the pricing stracture on
this.

I would love the chance to speak with you again.  I'm currently in the
states in Boston, if there's a time convenient for you to chat on this, I'd
really appreciate it.

Many thanks,

Dan

--
Daniel Myung
Senior Engineer
Dimagi, Inc | One Kendall Square | Bldg. 400, 4th Floor | Cambridge, MA
02139
work: (617) 621 8595 | cell: (617) 645 3236
http://www.dimagi.com/
 ------------------------------

*Disclaimer:*

This message is for the named person's use only.  It may contain
confidential, proprietary or legally privileged information.  No
confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost by any mistransmission.  If
you receive this message in error, please immediately delete it and all
copies of it from your system, destroy any hard copies of it and notify the
sender.  You must not, directly or indirectly, use, disclose, distribute,
print, or copy any part of this message if you are not the intended
recipient. *CELTEL ZAMBIA *and any of its subsidiaries each reserve the
right to monitor all e-mail communications through its networks.

Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender,
except where the message states otherwise and the sender is authorized to
state them to be the views of any such entity.


  ------------------------------




-- 
Daniel Myung
Senior Engineer
Dimagi, Inc | One Kendall Square | Bldg. 400, 4th Floor | Cambridge, MA
02139
work: (617) 621 8595 | cell: (617) 645 3236
http://www.dimagi.com/
   ------------------------------

*Disclaimer:*

This message is for the named person's use only.  It may contain
confidential, proprietary or legally privileged information.  No
confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost by any mistransmission.  If
you receive this message in error, please immediately delete it and all
copies of it from your system, destroy any hard copies of it and notify the
sender.  You must not, directly or indirectly, use, disclose, distribute,
print, or copy any part of this message if you are not the intended
recipient. *CELTEL ZAMBIA *and any of its subsidiaries each reserve the
right to monitor all e-mail communications through its networks.

Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender,
except where the message states otherwise and the sender is authorized to
state them to be the views of any such entity.


  ------------------------------




-- 
Daniel Myung
Senior Engineer
Dimagi, Inc | One Kendall Square | Bldg. 400, 4th Floor | Cambridge, MA
02139
work: (617) 621 8595 | cell: (617) 645 3236
http://www.dimagi.com/
 ------------------------------
*Disclaimer:*
This message is for the named person's use only.  It may contain
confidential, proprietary or legally privileged information.  No
confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost by any mistransmission.  If
you receive this message in error, please immediately delete it and all
copies of it from your system, destroy any hard copies of it and notify the
sender.  You must not, directly or indirectly, use, disclose, distribute,
print, or copy any part of this message if you are not the intended
recipient. *CELTEL ZAMBIA *and any of its subsidiaries each reserve the
right to monitor all e-mail communications through its networks.
Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender,
except where the message states otherwise and the sender is authorized to
state them to be the views of any such entity.

 ------------------------------



-- 
Daniel Myung
Senior Engineer
Dimagi, Inc | One Kendall Square | Bldg. 400, 4th Floor | Cambridge, MA
02139
work: (617) 621 8595 | cell: (617) 645 3236
http://www.dimagi.com/
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From jjackson at dimagi.com  Fri Apr  4 13:18:12 2008
From: jjackson at dimagi.com (Jonathan Jackson)
Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 13:18:12 -0400
Subject: [Cidrz] FW: CIDRZ and GPRS data
In-Reply-To: <d0a8a7530804041009p755ecf95u1b6ee09616629185@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <47f662d5.2134440a.5719.ffff8f80@mx.google.com>

I think the dominating latency factor is going to the satellite, and will
also be the bottleneck on throughput.  So, I do not think it matters much
where the server is as long as it is on a highspeed connection somewhere.  

Guessing there are optimal work flow changes that need to be switchable
based on whether the picture would be reviewed in country or out of country
in the long term system architecture.  (e.g. upload all of the pictures at
night to a fast server and leave them only at CIDRZ HQ during the day if no
one is going to use them outside of Zambia).

Thanks
J

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From: cidrz-bounces at mit.edu [mailto:cidrz-bounces at mit.edu] On Behalf Of
andresmh at media.mit.edu
Sent: Friday, April 04, 2008 1:10 PM
To: cidrz at mit.edu
Subject: Re: [Cidrz] FW: CIDRZ and GPRS data

i wonder if the connection from the phone to a server on the i connect
network is slower than if the server was in the US, Europe or south
africa, where probably connection is cheaper and better

2008/4/4, Daniel Myung <dmyung at dimagi.com>:
> iConnect is one of the leading satellite providers in zambia.  they have a
> high up front cost and are not the greatest in terms of connection speed:
>
> http://iconnect.zm/
>
>
>
> 2008/4/4 Andr?s Monroy-Hern?ndez <andresmh at media.mit.edu>:
>
> > What is iConnect?
> >
> > 2008/4/3, Daniel Myung <dmyung at dimagi.com>:
> > >
> > > hey guys,
> > >
> > > below are some correspondence I had from offficials at CelTel Zambia.
> > > looks like their pricing structure is reasonable.
> > >
> > > i'm estimating that each phone will need the 100MB at least service
and
> > > the cidrz server will need the unlimited plan for aggregation and
> download.
> > >
> > >
> > > looks like with some special help they can get a static IP within
> > > country for the cell phones.  I'm querying back to see what it means
for
> > > stuff outside the world...as the cameroona and US docs would need to
get
> > > back in for access as well.
> > >
> > > dan
> > >
> > > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > > From: John Hameja <Hameja.J at zm.celtel.com>
> > > Date: Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 4:58 AM
> > > Subject: FW: CIDRZ and GPRS data
> > > To: dmyung at dimagi.com
> > > Cc: James Museba <Museba.J at zm.celtel.com>, David Venn <
> > > Venn.d at zm.celtel.com>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi Daniel
> > >
> > > Find answers below in the mail marked in red.
> > >
> > > John
> > >
> > > Vas and Data Services Manager
> > >
> > > *From:* Daniel Myung [*mailto:dmyung at dimagi.com* <dmyung at dimagi.com>]
> > > ***Sent:* Monday, March 31, 2008 10:39 PM
> > > ***To:* David Venn; Groesbeck Parham; groesbeck parham
> > > ***Subject:* CIDRZ and GPRS data
> > >
> > > Hi Mr. Venn,
> > >
> > > We spoke briefly over the phone a few months back in regards to a
> > > software development project with CIDRZ involving sending data over
> GPRS.
> > > CC'd to this message is Dr. Parham, the lead point of contact on this
> > > effort.  The following message asks a flurry of questions in regards
to
> the
> > > state of GPRS and MMS in Zambia.  We'd like to
> > >  get a better sense of what costs to consider when scaling out a
> > > nationwide service over CelTel's network.
> > >
> > > The project particulars are as such:
> > >
> > > In a clinic a nurse will take a picture of a patient for diagnosis and
> > > evaluation.  The image and corresponding data will be sent via GPRS to
a
> > > central server in CIDRZ's offices.  The CIDRZ office server will then
> MMS
> > > the image to a doctor for his/her review.
> > >
> > > A few assumptions we will be making in a pilot implementation.
> > >
> > > First, we will assume that the software we develop will streamline the
> > > preparation of the data package.
> > > Next, we will assume that the nurse is in a place with reasonable
> > > coverage such that GPRS (or even better, EDGE) is available to make
the
> > > transmission.
> > >
> > > Of concern though is the actual route that the data will take from the
> > > phone out in say, Choma, back to CIDRZ in Lusaka.
> > > This is local traffic and therefore it will routed locally on a secure
> > > pipe.
> > >
> > > If the server has an internet connection (and static IP address)
> > > assigned by iConnect, how will GPRS data route through the internet,
> will it
> > > it hit out via satellite and back in?
> > > There are two options to this approach,
> > >
> > > 1. we plug-in a GPRS router into Server/Lan from GPRS side then you
will
> > > have the ability to plug more servers or
> > >
> > >     computers to this router.
> > >
> > >  2. Install a GPRS card on your server and then you will not be
required
> > > to use iConnect internet service for this
> > >
> > >      purpose.
> > >
> > > If the server has a GPRS or EDGE card, will it have a static IP or
have
> > > a DNS entry understandable such that a CelTel GRPS packet will never
> leave
> > > CelTel's internal routers?
> > > We shall assign you a separate Access Point Name (APN) and dedicate
all
> > > CIDRZ traffic to this channel and then you shall have fixed IP
> addresses.
> > >
> > > If we go the route of the CIDRZ server having a GPRS/EDGE card for
> > > receiving all inbound data from all over the country, what sort of
> pricing
> > > plans are available?
> > >
> > > Celtel access to GPRS network:
> > > Pay per use - K1,600 per MB  -  1579
> > >
> > > 15MB/month - K19,500          - Correct
> > > 100MB/month - K85,000        - Correct
> > >
> > > Below is a pricelist I saw off the web for GPRS coverage, numbers from
> > > from July 2007.
> > >
> > > Pay per use - K1,600 per MB  -  1579
> > >
> > > 15MB/month - K19,500          - Correct
> > > 100MB/month - K85,000        - Correct
> > >
> > > I guess a concern is a centralized aggregation site with a "pay for
> > > bandwidth" doesn't make it easy for CIDRZ to scale this service
> nationwide.
> > > Does CelTel have an unlimited monthly data plan for computers?  Also,
> phone
> > > plans with unlimited data are of interest too.
> > > Marketing to advise as they are still working on the pricing stracture
> > > on this.
> > >
> > > I would love the chance to speak with you again.  I'm currently in the
> > > states in Boston, if there's a time convenient for you to chat on
this,
> I'd
> > > really appreciate it.
> > >
> > > Many thanks,
> > >
> > > Dan
> > >
> > > --
> > > Daniel Myung
> > > Senior Engineer
> > > Dimagi, Inc | One Kendall Square | Bldg. 400, 4th Floor | Cambridge,
MA
> > > 02139
> > > work: (617) 621 8595 | cell: (617) 645 3236
> > > *http://www.dimagi.com/* <http://www.dimagi.com/>
> > > ------------------------------
> > > *Disclaimer:*
> > > This message is for the named person's use only.  It may contain
> > > confidential, proprietary or legally privileged information.  No
> > > confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost by any mistransmission.
> If
> > > you receive this message in error, please immediately delete it and
all
> > > copies of it from your system, destroy any hard copies of it and
notify
> the
> > > sender.  You must not, directly or indirectly, use, disclose,
> distribute,
> > > print, or copy any part of this message if you are not the intended
> > > recipient. *CELTEL ZAMBIA *and any of its subsidiaries each reserve
the
> > > right to monitor all e-mail communications through its networks.
> > > Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual
sender,
> > > except where the message states otherwise and the sender is authorized
> to
> > > state them to be the views of any such entity.
> > >
> > >  ------------------------------
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Daniel Myung
> > > Senior Engineer
> > > Dimagi, Inc | One Kendall Square | Bldg. 400, 4th Floor | Cambridge,
MA
> > > 02139
> > > work: (617) 621 8595 | cell: (617) 645 3236
> > > http://www.dimagi.com/
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Cidrz mailing list
> > > Cidrz at mit.edu
> > > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/cidrz
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Andr?s
> > _______________________________________________
> > Cidrz mailing list
> > Cidrz at mit.edu
> > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/cidrz
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> Daniel Myung
> Senior Engineer
> Dimagi, Inc | One Kendall Square | Bldg. 400, 4th Floor | Cambridge, MA
> 02139
> work: (617) 621 8595 | cell: (617) 645 3236
> http://www.dimagi.com/
>


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From leoanthonyceli at yahoo.com  Sun Apr  6 21:24:01 2008
From: leoanthonyceli at yahoo.com (Leo Anthony Celi)
Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 18:24:01 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Cidrz] MIT Biomedical Innovations Conference
Message-ID: <99876.48758.qm@web38006.mail.mud.yahoo.com>


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From leoanthonyceli at yahoo.com  Wed Apr  9 14:56:25 2008
From: leoanthonyceli at yahoo.com (Leo Anthony Celi)
Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2008 11:56:25 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Cidrz] Monday at 1 PM?
Message-ID: <669058.15184.qm@web38012.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Hi,
            How does Monday at 2 PM sound?  We need to present an update during class on Tuesday.  You guys can update the technical aspect incorporating all the new information that we now have, and I'll work on how we plan to evaluate our project in order to "predict" long-term sustainability and demonstrate value.  Does that sound cool?  Please let me know if the time suits or not.
  Cheers,
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From dmyung at dimagi.com  Wed Apr  9 15:00:22 2008
From: dmyung at dimagi.com (Daniel Myung)
Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2008 15:00:22 -0400
Subject: [Cidrz] Monday at 1 PM?
In-Reply-To: <669058.15184.qm@web38012.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <669058.15184.qm@web38012.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <46fb10300804091200v3ad02238uc3c7afe466d8134f@mail.gmail.com>

i'm guessing you meant 2pm for the subject line...

it'll be tight for me, a little later monday would be preferable and I can
meet y'all on campus for thath.  it's just that i'm working on a study all
the way over at BMC where the subjects we're screening are notoriously late
and non arriving.  i'm slated to be there till noon, but there might be more
trickle.  can we tentatively say 3pm?

dan

2008/4/9 Leo Anthony Celi <leoanthonyceli at yahoo.com>:

> Hi,
>           How does Monday at 2 PM sound?  We need to present an
> update during class on Tuesday.  You guys can update the technical aspect
> incorporating all the new information that we now have, and I'll work on
> how we plan to evaluate our project in order to "predict"
> long-term sustainability and demonstrate value.  Does that sound cool?
> Please let me know if the time suits or not.
> Cheers,
> Leo
>
> _______________________________________________
> Cidrz mailing list
> Cidrz at mit.edu
> http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/cidrz
>
>


-- 
Daniel Myung
Senior Engineer
Dimagi, Inc | One Kendall Square | Bldg. 400, 4th Floor | Cambridge, MA
02139
work: (617) 621 8595 | cell: (617) 645 3236
http://www.dimagi.com/
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From leoanthonyceli at yahoo.com  Wed Apr  9 15:04:38 2008
From: leoanthonyceli at yahoo.com (Leo Anthony Celi)
Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2008 12:04:38 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Cidrz] Monday at 3 PM?
In-Reply-To: <46fb10300804091200v3ad02238uc3c7afe466d8134f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <38257.53612.qm@web38005.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

3 PM is fine for me.  Andres?

Daniel Myung <dmyung at dimagi.com> wrote:  i'm guessing you meant 2pm for the subject line...

it'll be tight for me, a little later monday would be preferable and I can meet y'all on campus for thath.  it's just that i'm working on a study all the way over at BMC where the subjects we're screening are notoriously late and non arriving.  i'm slated to be there till noon, but there might be more trickle.  can we tentatively say 3pm?

dan

  2008/4/9 Leo Anthony Celi <leoanthonyceli at yahoo.com>:
    Hi,
            How does Monday at 2 PM sound?  We need to present an update during class on Tuesday.  You guys can update the technical aspect incorporating all the new information that we now have, and I'll work on how we plan to evaluate our project in order to "predict" long-term sustainability and demonstrate value.  Does that sound cool?  Please let me know if the time suits or not.
  Cheers,
  Leo

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Senior Engineer
Dimagi, Inc | One Kendall Square | Bldg. 400, 4th Floor | Cambridge, MA 02139
work: (617) 621 8595 | cell: (617) 645 3236
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From gari.clifford at gmail.com  Wed Apr  9 15:49:58 2008
From: gari.clifford at gmail.com (Gari Clifford)
Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2008 15:49:58 -0400
Subject: [Cidrz] Monday at 3 PM?
In-Reply-To: <38257.53612.qm@web38005.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <46fb10300804091200v3ad02238uc3c7afe466d8134f@mail.gmail.com>
	<38257.53612.qm@web38005.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <7be6ee2f0804091249m6d39f7aicf67fefc5f292e8b@mail.gmail.com>

Hi guys,

I'm back in the country, so I'll join you all if you let me know where/when
you decide to meet.
best
Gari

2008/4/9 Leo Anthony Celi <leoanthonyceli at yahoo.com>:

> 3 PM is fine for me.  Andres?
>
> *Daniel Myung <dmyung at dimagi.com>* wrote:
>
> i'm guessing you meant 2pm for the subject line...
>
> it'll be tight for me, a little later monday would be preferable and I can
> meet y'all on campus for thath.  it's just that i'm working on a study all
> the way over at BMC where the subjects we're screening are notoriously late
> and non arriving.  i'm slated to be there till noon, but there might be more
> trickle.  can we tentatively say 3pm?
>
> dan
>
> 2008/4/9 Leo Anthony Celi <leoanthonyceli at yahoo.com>:
>
> > Hi,
> >           How does Monday at 2 PM sound?  We need to present an
> > update during class on Tuesday.  You guys can update the technical aspect
> > incorporating all the new information that we now have, and I'll work on
> > how we plan to evaluate our project in order to "predict"
> > long-term sustainability and demonstrate value.  Does that sound cool?
> > Please let me know if the time suits or not.
> > Cheers,
> > Leo
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Cidrz mailing list
> > Cidrz at mit.edu
> > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/cidrz
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> Daniel Myung
> Senior Engineer
> Dimagi, Inc | One Kendall Square | Bldg. 400, 4th Floor | Cambridge, MA
> 02139
> work: (617) 621 8595 | cell: (617) 645 3236
> http://www.dimagi.com/ _______________________________________________
> Cidrz mailing list
> Cidrz at mit.edu
> http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/cidrz
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Cidrz mailing list
> Cidrz at mit.edu
> http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/cidrz
>
>


-- 
G. D. Clifford, PhD, SMIEEE
Principal Research Scientist,
Massachusetts Institute of Technology,
Instructor in Biomedical Engineering, HST,
(Harvard-MIT Division of Health Sciences & Technology)
Engineering Manager for the L.C.P. at M.I.T.
(Laboratory for Computational Physiology),
Rm E25-505DA, 45 Carleton St., Cambridge MA 02142
Tel: +16172537937 / +448444368530
Fax: +16172587859 email: gari at alum.mit.edu
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From leoanthonyceli at yahoo.com  Wed Apr  9 16:09:16 2008
From: leoanthonyceli at yahoo.com (Leo Anthony Celi)
Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2008 13:09:16 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Cidrz] Monday at 3 PM?
In-Reply-To: <7be6ee2f0804091249m6d39f7aicf67fefc5f292e8b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <326305.15529.qm@web38013.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Stata cafeteria at 3 PM on Monday.

Gari Clifford <gari.clifford at gmail.com> wrote:  Hi guys,

I'm back in the country, so I'll join you all if you let me know where/when you decide to meet.
best
Gari

  2008/4/9 Leo Anthony Celi <leoanthonyceli at yahoo.com>:
  3 PM is fine for me.  Andres?

Daniel Myung <dmyung at dimagi.com> wrote:   i'm guessing you meant 2pm for the subject line...

it'll be tight for me, a little later monday would be preferable and I can meet y'all on campus for thath.  it's just that i'm working on a study all the way over at BMC where the subjects we're screening are notoriously late and non arriving.  i'm slated to be there till noon, but there might be more trickle.  can we tentatively say 3pm?

dan

  2008/4/9 Leo Anthony Celi <leoanthonyceli at yahoo.com>:
    Hi,
            How does Monday at 2 PM sound?  We need to present an update during class on Tuesday.  You guys can update the technical aspect incorporating all the new information that we now have, and I'll work on how we plan to evaluate our project in order to "predict" long-term sustainability and demonstrate value.  Does that sound cool?  Please let me know if the time suits or not.
  Cheers,
  Leo

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-- 
Daniel Myung
Senior Engineer
Dimagi, Inc | One Kendall Square | Bldg. 400, 4th Floor | Cambridge, MA 02139
work: (617) 621 8595 | cell: (617) 645 3236
http://www.dimagi.com/ _______________________________________________
Cidrz mailing list
Cidrz at mit.edu
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-- 
G. D. Clifford, PhD, SMIEEE
Principal Research Scientist,
Massachusetts Institute of Technology,
Instructor in Biomedical Engineering, HST,
(Harvard-MIT Division of Health Sciences & Technology)
Engineering Manager for the L.C.P. at M.I.T.
(Laboratory for Computational Physiology),
Rm E25-505DA, 45 Carleton St., Cambridge MA 02142
Tel: +16172537937 / +448444368530
Fax: +16172587859 email: gari at alum.mit.edu
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From andresmh at media.mit.edu  Wed Apr  9 17:25:01 2008
From: andresmh at media.mit.edu (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Andr=E9s_Monroy-Hern=E1ndez?=)
Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2008 17:25:01 -0400
Subject: [Cidrz] Monday at 3 PM?
In-Reply-To: <326305.15529.qm@web38013.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <7be6ee2f0804091249m6d39f7aicf67fefc5f292e8b@mail.gmail.com>
	<326305.15529.qm@web38013.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <d0a8a7530804091425j70626faei341f64872917108c@mail.gmail.com>

I cannot meet at 3pm. Here is my calendar:
http://web.media.mit.edu/~andresmh/calendar/

2008/4/9, Leo Anthony Celi <leoanthonyceli at yahoo.com>:
>
> Stata cafeteria at 3 PM on Monday.
>
> *Gari Clifford <gari.clifford at gmail.com>* wrote:
>
> Hi guys,
>
> I'm back in the country, so I'll join you all if you let me know
> where/when you decide to meet.
> best
> Gari
>
> 2008/4/9 Leo Anthony Celi <leoanthonyceli at yahoo.com>:
>
> > 3 PM is fine for me.  Andres?
> >
> > *Daniel Myung <dmyung at dimagi.com>* wrote:
> >
> > i'm guessing you meant 2pm for the subject line...
> >
> > it'll be tight for me, a little later monday would be preferable and I
> > can meet y'all on campus for thath.  it's just that i'm working on a study
> > all the way over at BMC where the subjects we're screening are notoriously
> > late and non arriving.  i'm slated to be there till noon, but there might be
> > more trickle.  can we tentatively say 3pm?
> >
> > dan
> >
> > 2008/4/9 Leo Anthony Celi <leoanthonyceli at yahoo.com>:
> >
> > > Hi,
> > >           How does Monday at 2 PM sound?  We need to present an
> > > update during class on Tuesday.  You guys can update the technical aspect
> > > incorporating all the new information that we now have, and I'll work on
> > > how we plan to evaluate our project in order to "predict"
> > > long-term sustainability and demonstrate value.  Does that sound cool?
> > > Please let me know if the time suits or not.
> > > Cheers,
> > > Leo
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Cidrz mailing list
> > > Cidrz at mit.edu
> > > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/cidrz
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Daniel Myung
> > Senior Engineer
> > Dimagi, Inc | One Kendall Square | Bldg. 400, 4th Floor | Cambridge, MA
> > 02139
> > work: (617) 621 8595 | cell: (617) 645 3236
> > http://www.dimagi.com/ _______________________________________________
> > Cidrz mailing list
> > Cidrz at mit.edu
> > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/cidrz
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Cidrz mailing list
> > Cidrz at mit.edu
> > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/cidrz
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> G. D. Clifford, PhD, SMIEEE
> Principal Research Scientist,
> Massachusetts Institute of Technology,
> Instructor in Biomedical Engineering, HST,
> (Harvard-MIT Division of Health Sciences & Technology)
> Engineering Manager for the L.C.P. at M.I.T.
> (Laboratory for Computational Physiology),
> Rm E25-505DA, 45 Carleton St., Cambridge MA 02142
> Tel: +16172537937 / +448444368530
> Fax: +16172587859 email: gari at alum.mit.edu
> http://alum.mit.edu/www/gari_______________________________________________
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>
>
>
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From leoanthonyceli at yahoo.com  Wed Apr  9 17:28:04 2008
From: leoanthonyceli at yahoo.com (Leo Anthony Celi)
Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2008 14:28:04 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Cidrz] Monday at 10 AM?
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Daniel and Gari, will Monday at 10 AM work for you?
  Leo

Andr?s Monroy-Hern?ndez <andresmh at media.mit.edu> wrote:
  I cannot meet at 3pm. Here is my calendar: http://web.media.mit.edu/~andresmh/calendar/

  2008/4/9, Leo Anthony Celi <leoanthonyceli at yahoo.com>:  Stata cafeteria at 3 PM on Monday.  

Gari Clifford <gari.clifford at gmail.com> wrote: 
    Hi guys,

I'm back in the country, so I'll join you all if you let me know where/when you decide to meet.
best
Gari

  2008/4/9 Leo Anthony Celi <leoanthonyceli at yahoo.com>:
  3 PM is fine for me.  Andres?

Daniel Myung <dmyung at dimagi.com> wrote:   i'm guessing you meant 2pm for the subject line...

it'll be tight for me, a little later monday would be preferable and I can meet y'all on campus for thath.  it's just that i'm working on a study all the way over at BMC where the subjects we're screening are notoriously late and non arriving.  i'm slated to be there till noon, but there might be more trickle.  can we tentatively say 3pm?

dan

  2008/4/9 Leo Anthony Celi <leoanthonyceli at yahoo.com>:
    Hi,
            How does Monday at 2 PM sound?  We need to present an update during class on Tuesday.  You guys can update the technical aspect incorporating all the new information that we now have, and I'll work on how we plan to evaluate our project in order to "predict" long-term sustainability and demonstrate value.  Does that sound cool?  Please let me know if the time suits or not.
  Cheers,
  Leo

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Massachusetts Institute of Technology,
Instructor in Biomedical Engineering, HST,
(Harvard-MIT Division of Health Sciences & Technology)
Engineering Manager for the L.C.P. at M.I.T.
(Laboratory for Computational Physiology),
Rm E25-505DA, 45 Carleton St., Cambridge MA 02142
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From dmyung at dimagi.com  Wed Apr  9 17:40:10 2008
From: dmyung at dimagi.com (Daniel Myung)
Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2008 17:40:10 -0400
Subject: [Cidrz] Monday at 10 AM?
In-Reply-To: <802878.57348.qm@web38014.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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	<802878.57348.qm@web38014.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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I will be unavailable monday before noon...my time constraint was the
closeness after noon.  i'm still awaiting feedback on my prior commitment to
see if the generally more favorable 1 or 2pm seem could work.

2008/4/9 Leo Anthony Celi <leoanthonyceli at yahoo.com>:

> Daniel and Gari, will Monday at 10 AM work for you?
> Leo
>
> *Andr?s Monroy-Hern?ndez <andresmh at media.mit.edu>* wrote:
>
> I cannot meet at 3pm. Here is my calendar:
> http://web.media.mit.edu/~andresmh/calendar/<http://web.media.mit.edu/%7Eandresmh/calendar/>
>
> 2008/4/9, Leo Anthony Celi <leoanthonyceli at yahoo.com>:
> >
> > Stata cafeteria at 3 PM on Monday.
> >
> > *Gari Clifford <gari.clifford at gmail.com>* wrote:
> >
> > Hi guys,
> >
> > I'm back in the country, so I'll join you all if you let me know
> > where/when you decide to meet.
> > best
> > Gari
> >
> > 2008/4/9 Leo Anthony Celi <leoanthonyceli at yahoo.com>:
> >
> > > 3 PM is fine for me.  Andres?
> > >
> > > *Daniel Myung <dmyung at dimagi.com>* wrote:
> > >
> > > i'm guessing you meant 2pm for the subject line...
> > >
> > > it'll be tight for me, a little later monday would be preferable and I
> > > can meet y'all on campus for thath.  it's just that i'm working on a study
> > > all the way over at BMC where the subjects we're screening are notoriously
> > > late and non arriving.  i'm slated to be there till noon, but there might be
> > > more trickle.  can we tentatively say 3pm?
> > >
> > > dan
> > >
> > > 2008/4/9 Leo Anthony Celi <leoanthonyceli at yahoo.com>:
> > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >           How does Monday at 2 PM sound?  We need to present an
> > > > update during class on Tuesday.  You guys can update the technical aspect
> > > > incorporating all the new information that we now have, and I'll work on
> > > > how we plan to evaluate our project in order to "predict"
> > > > long-term sustainability and demonstrate value.  Does that sound cool?
> > > > Please let me know if the time suits or not.
> > > > Cheers,
> > > > Leo
> > > >
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > Cidrz mailing list
> > > > Cidrz at mit.edu
> > > > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/cidrz
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Daniel Myung
> > > Senior Engineer
> > > Dimagi, Inc | One Kendall Square | Bldg. 400, 4th Floor | Cambridge,
> > > MA 02139
> > > work: (617) 621 8595 | cell: (617) 645 3236
> > > http://www.dimagi.com/ _______________________________________________
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> > > Cidrz at mit.edu
> > > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/cidrz
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> > >
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> > > Cidrz at mit.edu
> > > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/cidrz
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > G. D. Clifford, PhD, SMIEEE
> > Principal Research Scientist,
> > Massachusetts Institute of Technology,
> > Instructor in Biomedical Engineering, HST,
> > (Harvard-MIT Division of Health Sciences & Technology)
> > Engineering Manager for the L.C.P. at M.I.T.
> > (Laboratory for Computational Physiology),
> > Rm E25-505DA, 45 Carleton St., Cambridge MA 02142
> > Tel: +16172537937 / +448444368530
> > Fax: +16172587859 email: gari at alum.mit.edu
> > http://alum.mit.edu/www/gari_______________________________________________
> > Cidrz mailing list
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> >
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> >
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> > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/cidrz
> >
> >
>
>
> --
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>
>
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>


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From gari.clifford at gmail.com  Wed Apr  9 17:47:33 2008
From: gari.clifford at gmail.com (Gari Clifford)
Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2008 17:47:33 -0400
Subject: [Cidrz] Monday at 10 AM?
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I can't do before 2pm on Monday, ... but don't let that constrain you.
-Gari

2008/4/9 Daniel Myung <dmyung at dimagi.com>:

> I will be unavailable monday before noon...my time constraint was the
> closeness after noon.  i'm still awaiting feedback on my prior commitment to
> see if the generally more favorable 1 or 2pm seem could work.
>
> 2008/4/9 Leo Anthony Celi <leoanthonyceli at yahoo.com>:
>
> > Daniel and Gari, will Monday at 10 AM work for you?
> > Leo
> >
> > *Andr?s Monroy-Hern?ndez <andresmh at media.mit.edu>* wrote:
> >
> > I cannot meet at 3pm. Here is my calendar:
> > http://web.media.mit.edu/~andresmh/calendar/<http://web.media.mit.edu/%7Eandresmh/calendar/>
> >
> > 2008/4/9, Leo Anthony Celi <leoanthonyceli at yahoo.com>:
> > >
> > > Stata cafeteria at 3 PM on Monday.
> > >
> > > *Gari Clifford <gari.clifford at gmail.com>* wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi guys,
> > >
> > > I'm back in the country, so I'll join you all if you let me know
> > > where/when you decide to meet.
> > > best
> > > Gari
> > >
> > > 2008/4/9 Leo Anthony Celi <leoanthonyceli at yahoo.com>:
> > >
> > > > 3 PM is fine for me.  Andres?
> > > >
> > > > *Daniel Myung <dmyung at dimagi.com>* wrote:
> > > >
> > > > i'm guessing you meant 2pm for the subject line...
> > > >
> > > > it'll be tight for me, a little later monday would be preferable and
> > > > I can meet y'all on campus for thath.  it's just that i'm working on a study
> > > > all the way over at BMC where the subjects we're screening are notoriously
> > > > late and non arriving.  i'm slated to be there till noon, but there might be
> > > > more trickle.  can we tentatively say 3pm?
> > > >
> > > > dan
> > > >
> > > > 2008/4/9 Leo Anthony Celi <leoanthonyceli at yahoo.com>:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi,
> > > > >           How does Monday at 2 PM sound?  We need to present an
> > > > > update during class on Tuesday.  You guys can update the technical aspect
> > > > > incorporating all the new information that we now have, and I'll work on
> > > > > how we plan to evaluate our project in order to "predict"
> > > > > long-term sustainability and demonstrate value.  Does that sound cool?
> > > > > Please let me know if the time suits or not.
> > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > Leo
> > > > >
> > > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > > Cidrz mailing list
> > > > > Cidrz at mit.edu
> > > > > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/cidrz
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Daniel Myung
> > > > Senior Engineer
> > > > Dimagi, Inc | One Kendall Square | Bldg. 400, 4th Floor | Cambridge,
> > > > MA 02139
> > > > work: (617) 621 8595 | cell: (617) 645 3236
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> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > G. D. Clifford, PhD, SMIEEE
> > > Principal Research Scientist,
> > > Massachusetts Institute of Technology,
> > > Instructor in Biomedical Engineering, HST,
> > > (Harvard-MIT Division of Health Sciences & Technology)
> > > Engineering Manager for the L.C.P. at M.I.T.
> > > (Laboratory for Computational Physiology),
> > > Rm E25-505DA, 45 Carleton St., Cambridge MA 02142
> > > Tel: +16172537937 / +448444368530
> > > Fax: +16172587859 email: gari at alum.mit.edu
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> >
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> >
> >
>
>
> --
> Daniel Myung
> Senior Engineer
> Dimagi, Inc | One Kendall Square | Bldg. 400, 4th Floor | Cambridge, MA
> 02139
> work: (617) 621 8595 | cell: (617) 645 3236
> http://www.dimagi.com/
> _______________________________________________
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> http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/cidrz
>
>


-- 
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Principal Research Scientist,
Massachusetts Institute of Technology,
Instructor in Biomedical Engineering, HST,
(Harvard-MIT Division of Health Sciences & Technology)
Engineering Manager for the L.C.P. at M.I.T.
(Laboratory for Computational Physiology),
Rm E25-505DA, 45 Carleton St., Cambridge MA 02142
Tel: +16172537937 / +448444368530
Fax: +16172587859 email: gari at alum.mit.edu
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From andresmh at media.mit.edu  Thu Apr 10 14:27:48 2008
From: andresmh at media.mit.edu (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Andr=E9s_Monroy-Hern=E1ndez?=)
Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2008 14:27:48 -0400
Subject: [Cidrz] Pre-spring break write up & presentation project feedback
Message-ID: <d0a8a7530804101127h1a4b6242u11a2b64f061e2267@mail.gmail.com>

I got this feedback on paper in class today.

Feedback for our team
1. Paper and presentation shows a clear and concrete plan, which also looks
feasible, and thus show a good chance of success. Good effort to do needs
assessment. Keep up the good work.

2. A good presentation. It could have been more explicit, in my view.

3. Great concept, focused, well-researched, good needs assessment.

4. Team is appreciative of the risk and is embarking on a survey. Team also
understand the technical challenges they are up against.

5. Your project is well focused and very doable. One very important thing
that you have overlooked is privacy. Ther material in these photos is very
sensitive and it is arguable if this should be stored in a database or
simply deleted after diagnosis. You need to design a model and architecture
for privacy and security, also, your presentation and write up could be a
bit more polished.

Common feedback (i guess for all teams)

1. Most feedbacks write ups lacked a needs assessment and potential success
metrics. No write ups included refrences and very few any external
resources. This should be addressed in the final write up.

2. The projects have all laid a strong foundation but the truly successful
ones will be those that deliver on that foundation and make a lasting impact
on their sponsor organizations

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From dmyung at dimagi.com  Thu Apr 10 15:40:45 2008
From: dmyung at dimagi.com (Daniel Myung)
Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2008 15:40:45 -0400
Subject: [Cidrz] Pre-spring break write up & presentation project
	feedback
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quick comments inline...thinking out loud on things...


2008/4/10 Andr?s Monroy-Hern?ndez <andresmh at media.mit.edu>:

> I got this feedback on paper in class today.
>
> Feedback for our team
> 1. Paper and presentation shows a clear and concrete plan, which also
> looks feasible, and thus show a good chance of success. Good effort to do
> needs assessment. Keep up the good work.
>
> 2. A good presentation. It could have been more explicit, in my view.


it was a little lacking in concrete text for the audience...a nitpick :)


>
>
> 3. Great concept, focused, well-researched, good needs assessment.
>
> 4. Team is appreciative of the risk and is embarking on a survey. Team
> also understand the technical challenges they are up against.
>
> 5. Your project is well focused and very doable. One very important thing
> that you have overlooked is privacy. Ther material in these photos is very
> sensitive and it is arguable if this should be stored in a database or
> simply deleted after diagnosis. You need to design a model and architecture
> for privacy and security, also, your presentation and write up could be a
> bit more polished.


Tough call on the privacy bit.  We need to spec out a simple access control
such that only the nurse has access to identifiers.  Everyone else who sees
the photo can only see it as a unique numbered photo so they can put their
notes/diagnoses on them.

- Audit logging for image views

Of bigger concern for all players involved is the location of all the data.
It's a tough sell to store any identifier information on a central server
away from the facility it was done at.  We could argue that all photos sent
to the central storage have NO identifiers and are only for diangosis
purposes decoupled from the patient.  Only data local to the clinic is
accessible with patient identifiers.



>
>
> Common feedback (i guess for all teams)
>
> 1. Most feedbacks write ups lacked a needs assessment and potential
> success metrics. No write ups included refrences and very few any external
> resources. This should be addressed in the final write up.
>

I think we have this down reasonable, the papers on the screening methods
and its efficacy, and the outcome metrics that Leo was working on...anything
else?


>
> 2. The projects have all laid a strong foundation but the truly successful
> ones will be those that deliver on that foundation and make a lasting impact
> on their sponsor organizations
>




>
> --
> Andr?s
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>


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Dimagi, Inc | One Kendall Square | Bldg. 400, 4th Floor | Cambridge, MA
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From dmyung at dimagi.com  Thu Apr 10 15:44:35 2008
From: dmyung at dimagi.com (Daniel Myung)
Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2008 15:44:35 -0400
Subject: [Cidrz] monday later?
Message-ID: <46fb10300804101244t13c1767ere29bd865104aaaca@mail.gmail.com>

looking at andres' calendar :)  does monday after 5pm work?  i'm locked in a
basement at boston medical center from 9-2:30, and andres is booked from 3
on...

Dan

-- 
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Senior Engineer
Dimagi, Inc | One Kendall Square | Bldg. 400, 4th Floor | Cambridge, MA
02139
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From leoanthonyceli at yahoo.com  Thu Apr 10 22:48:31 2008
From: leoanthonyceli at yahoo.com (Leo Anthony Celi)
Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2008 19:48:31 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Cidrz] Next Meeting
In-Reply-To: <46fb10300804101244t13c1767ere29bd865104aaaca@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <903472.70418.qm@web38006.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Andres and I are meeting at 2 PM on Monday mainly to discuss the presentation for Tuesday.  Perhaps the rest of the group can meet on Friday next week (April 18) at 3 PM?  I go boxing on Mondays at 5:30 PM.
  Cheers,
  Leo

Daniel Myung <dmyung at dimagi.com> wrote:
  looking at andres' calendar :)  does monday after 5pm work?  i'm locked in a basement at boston medical center from 9-2:30, and andres is booked from 3 on...

Dan

-- 
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From dmyung at dimagi.com  Fri Apr 11 16:23:43 2008
From: dmyung at dimagi.com (Daniel Myung)
Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 16:23:43 -0400
Subject: [Cidrz] presentation time and such
Message-ID: <46fb10300804111323m21b0d25fh5f0ee3299493f77e@mail.gmail.com>

do you guys need me there for the progress report?  is it a presentation
like last time?

-- 
Daniel Myung
Senior Engineer
Dimagi, Inc | One Kendall Square | Bldg. 400, 4th Floor | Cambridge, MA
02139
work: (617) 621 8595 | cell: (617) 645 3236
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From andresmh at media.mit.edu  Fri Apr 11 19:20:13 2008
From: andresmh at media.mit.edu (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Andr=E9s_Monroy-Hern=E1ndez?=)
Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 19:20:13 -0400
Subject: [Cidrz] presentation time and such
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References: <46fb10300804111323m21b0d25fh5f0ee3299493f77e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <d0a8a7530804111620g3c771e4an87e9b45bbb4b8fb5@mail.gmail.com>

The presentation is just an update, so you are welcome to come but I don't
think it's as important as the next one. The time is next Tuesday at 1pm

2008/4/11, Daniel Myung <dmyung at dimagi.com>:
>
> do you guys need me there for the progress report?  is it a presentation
> like last time?
>
> --
> Daniel Myung
> Senior Engineer
> Dimagi, Inc | One Kendall Square | Bldg. 400, 4th Floor | Cambridge, MA
> 02139
> work: (617) 621 8595 | cell: (617) 645 3236
> http://www.dimagi.com/
> _______________________________________________
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From leoanthonyceli at yahoo.com  Fri Apr 11 21:11:45 2008
From: leoanthonyceli at yahoo.com (Leo Anthony Celi)
Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 18:11:45 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Cidrz] Document
Message-ID: <672722.21663.qm@web38013.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Hi,
         I've updated the Google document adding sections on addressing privacy issue, insuring sustainability and references.  I've beefed up the introduction as well.  I've attached an extra copy. 
         Andres, can you please update the technological architecture (highlighted in the attached Word document)?  Please describe how we've adopted J2ME, LAMP for information management on the server side, etc.  Daniel Myung, will you be able to write a short blurb on Celtel and iConnect on their ISP/GPRS provider capabilities (highlighted in the attached Word document)?  Please upload your additions to the Google document.
         I believe I've addressed all the comments given to our write-up and presentation.  Please feel free to continue editing. 
         Andres, I'll see you on Monday at 2 PM.  I haven't received a response from the rest of the group as regards meeting on Wednesday at 3 PM.
  Cheers,
  Leo
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From dmyung at dimagi.com  Mon Apr 14 12:33:08 2008
From: dmyung at dimagi.com (Daniel Myung)
Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2008 12:33:08 -0400
Subject: [Cidrz] Document
In-Reply-To: <672722.21663.qm@web38013.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <672722.21663.qm@web38013.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <46fb10300804140933k17c3b39vace3ea2d714ca547@mail.gmail.com>

Hey,

looks like i won't be able to make today 2pm, but wednesday yes, i can make
3pm.

I'll look into getting some blurbage for Zambian internet for you guys this
afternoon.  also i don't think i can read docx format.  is that word 2007?
i only got 2003 :(

On 4/11/08, Leo Anthony Celi <leoanthonyceli at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>        I've updated the Google document adding sections on addressing
> privacy issue, insuring sustainability and references.  I've beefed up the
> introduction as well.  I've attached an extra copy.
>        Andres, can you please update the technological architecture
> (highlighted in the attached Word document)?  Please describe how we've
> adopted J2ME, LAMP for information management on the server side, etc.
> Daniel Myung, will you be able to write a short blurb on Celtel
> and iConnect on their ISP/GPRS provider capabilities (highlighted in the
> attached Word document)?  Please upload your additions to the Google
> document.
>        I believe I've addressed all the comments given to our write-up and
> presentation.  Please feel free to continue editing.
>        Andres, I'll see you on Monday at 2 PM.  I haven't received a
> response from the rest of the group as regards meeting on Wednesday at 3 PM.
> Cheers,
> Leo
>
> _______________________________________________
> Cidrz mailing list
> Cidrz at mit.edu
> http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/cidrz
>
>
>


-- 
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Senior Engineer
Dimagi, Inc  |  One Kendall Square  |  Bldg. 400, 4th Floor  |  Cambridge,
MA 02139
work: (617) 621 8595  |  cell: (617) 645 3236
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From jjackson at dimagi.com  Mon Apr 14 12:35:02 2008
From: jjackson at dimagi.com (Jonathan Jackson)
Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2008 12:35:02 -0400
Subject: [Cidrz] Document
In-Reply-To: <46fb10300804140933k17c3b39vace3ea2d714ca547@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <480387c3.16098e0a.24c8.ffff9ae8@mx.google.com>

You can download a converter plugin online.

 

  _____  

From: cidrz-bounces at mit.edu [mailto:cidrz-bounces at mit.edu] On Behalf Of
Daniel Myung
Sent: Monday, April 14, 2008 12:33 PM
To: cidrz at mit.edu
Subject: Re: [Cidrz] Document

 

Hey,

 

looks like i won't be able to make today 2pm, but wednesday yes, i can make
3pm.

 

I'll look into getting some blurbage for Zambian internet for you guys this
afternoon.  also i don't think i can read docx format.  is that word 2007?
i only got 2003 :(
 

On 4/11/08, Leo Anthony Celi <leoanthonyceli at yahoo.com> wrote: 

Hi,

       I've updated the Google document adding sections on addressing
privacy issue, insuring sustainability and references.  I've beefed up the
introduction as well.  I've attached an extra copy. 

       Andres, can you please update the technological architecture
(highlighted in the attached Word document)?  Please describe how we've
adopted J2ME, LAMP for information management on the server side, etc.
Daniel Myung, will you be able to write a short blurb on Celtel and iConnect
on their ISP/GPRS provider capabilities (highlighted in the attached Word
document)?  Please upload your additions to the Google document.

       I believe I've addressed all the comments given to our write-up and
presentation.  Please feel free to continue editing. 

       Andres, I'll see you on Monday at 2 PM.  I haven't received a
response from the rest of the group as regards meeting on Wednesday at 3 PM.

Cheers,

Leo


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From andresmh at media.mit.edu  Mon Apr 14 14:52:31 2008
From: andresmh at media.mit.edu (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Andr=E9s_Monroy-Hern=E1ndez?=)
Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2008 14:52:31 -0400
Subject: [Cidrz] J2ME Midlet Alpha Done + Need Celtel/iConnect info for doc
Message-ID: <d0a8a7530804141152l20016c05rb2b56f4da8c6a70c@mail.gmail.com>

Hello,

Daniel Myung,
Could you add the information about Celtel and iConnect you showed us? Could
you add it to the google doc? (you don't need to get the .docx to work since
it's the same as the Google doc)

Update:
I finished an initial version of the J2ME Midlet:
http://ict4dev.dimagi.com/Snapper.jar
it uploads images to a server,
example: http://ict4dev.dimagi.com/uploads/2008/04/14/12/

There is a lot more work to be done but this a good proof of concept.


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From leoanthonyceli at yahoo.com  Mon Apr 14 17:27:44 2008
From: leoanthonyceli at yahoo.com (Leo Anthony Celi)
Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2008 14:27:44 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Cidrz] (no subject)
Message-ID: <932855.45521.qm@web38012.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Hi, Daniel Myung,
           I've attached a Microsoft Word 2003 version of the document.  It is identical to the Google document.  I've highlighted the bits where we're hoping to get your input.  Please upload your blurb directly to the Google document.  Note that we've also updated the use case diagram.  We'll demo the client-end of the application tomorrow.  We'll talk about the server-end during our meeting on Wednesday.  (Dan Myers, we can use your expertise for the server-end of the application.)
  Cheers,
  Leo
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From leoanthonyceli at yahoo.com  Mon Apr 14 21:35:49 2008
From: leoanthonyceli at yahoo.com (Leo Anthony Celi)
Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2008 18:35:49 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Cidrz] Update Powerpoint
Message-ID: <459824.79244.qm@web38013.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

  
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From andresmh at media.mit.edu  Mon Apr 14 22:03:07 2008
From: andresmh at media.mit.edu (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Andr=E9s_Monroy-Hern=E1ndez?=)
Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2008 22:03:07 -0400
Subject: [Cidrz] Update Powerpoint
In-Reply-To: <459824.79244.qm@web38013.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <459824.79244.qm@web38013.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <d0a8a7530804141903m2ec08c4cs648d98c4a915be5a@mail.gmail.com>

Great, thanks!

I don't think we need powerpoint for tomorrow but it's good to have as a
guide.

I think as a presentation is a bit too much text (I'm more on the Al Gore
and Steve Jobs camp focused on one single image per slide with just some
text).
I'm not sure about the image of the cervix for this audience....

2008/4/14, Leo Anthony Celi <leoanthonyceli at yahoo.com>:
>
>
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From leoanthonyceli at yahoo.com  Tue Apr 15 15:04:45 2008
From: leoanthonyceli at yahoo.com (Leo Anthony Celi)
Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 12:04:45 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Cidrz] Wednesday Meeting Postponed
Message-ID: <73210.54790.qm@web38001.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Hi,
          We've postponed tomorrow's meeting to Monday (April 21, Patriot's Day) at noon.  WE hope this is okay with you, Daniel.  It turned out Andres has classes tomorrow.  Andres, can we meet at Media Lab?  I LOVE that place.
  Cheers,
  Leo
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From andresmh at media.mit.edu  Tue Apr 15 15:10:03 2008
From: andresmh at media.mit.edu (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Andr=E9s_Monroy-Hern=E1ndez?=)
Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 15:10:03 -0400
Subject: [Cidrz] Wednesday Meeting Postponed
In-Reply-To: <73210.54790.qm@web38001.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <73210.54790.qm@web38001.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <d0a8a7530804151210h580a8c8du87bf7a2e08a9327f@mail.gmail.com>

Good. Let's meet on Monday at the Media Lab. Give me a call if the doors are
closed 857-204-9474.

2008/4/15, Leo Anthony Celi <leoanthonyceli at yahoo.com>:
>
> Hi,
>         We've postponed tomorrow's meeting to Monday (April 21, Patriot's
> Day) at noon.  WE hope this is okay with you, Daniel.  It turned out Andres
> has classes tomorrow.  Andres, can we meet at Media Lab?  I LOVE that place.
> Cheers,
> Leo
>
> _______________________________________________
> Cidrz mailing list
> Cidrz at mit.edu
> http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/cidrz
>
>


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From dmyung at dimagi.com  Tue Apr 15 15:22:47 2008
From: dmyung at dimagi.com (Daniel Myung)
Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 15:22:47 -0400
Subject: [Cidrz] Wednesday Meeting Postponed
In-Reply-To: <d0a8a7530804151210h580a8c8du87bf7a2e08a9327f@mail.gmail.com>
References: <73210.54790.qm@web38001.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<d0a8a7530804151210h580a8c8du87bf7a2e08a9327f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <46fb10300804151222t5af46be5q126cf1b3ce6967ae@mail.gmail.com>

sounds good, monday noon is good.

dr. parham is going to be in boston at the end of may.  you guys going to be
around?

2008/4/15 Andr?s Monroy-Hern?ndez <andresmh at media.mit.edu>:

> Good. Let's meet on Monday at the Media Lab. Give me a call if the doors
> are closed 857-204-9474.
>
> 2008/4/15, Leo Anthony Celi <leoanthonyceli at yahoo.com>:
> >
> > Hi,
> >         We've postponed tomorrow's meeting to Monday (April 21,
> > Patriot's Day) at noon.  WE hope this is okay with you, Daniel.  It turned
> > out Andres has classes tomorrow.  Andres, can we meet at Media Lab?  I LOVE
> > that place.
> > Cheers,
> > Leo
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Cidrz mailing list
> > Cidrz at mit.edu
> > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/cidrz
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> Andr?s
> _______________________________________________
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> http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/cidrz
>
>


-- 
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Senior Engineer
Dimagi, Inc | One Kendall Square | Bldg. 400, 4th Floor | Cambridge, MA
02139
work: (617) 621 8595 | cell: (617) 645 3236
http://www.dimagi.com/
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From andresmh at media.mit.edu  Tue Apr 15 15:25:45 2008
From: andresmh at media.mit.edu (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Andr=E9s_Monroy-Hern=E1ndez?=)
Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 15:25:45 -0400
Subject: [Cidrz] Wednesday Meeting Postponed
In-Reply-To: <46fb10300804151222t5af46be5q126cf1b3ce6967ae@mail.gmail.com>
References: <73210.54790.qm@web38001.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<d0a8a7530804151210h580a8c8du87bf7a2e08a9327f@mail.gmail.com>
	<46fb10300804151222t5af46be5q126cf1b3ce6967ae@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <d0a8a7530804151225mcdb4a5ci18427ba394499e88@mail.gmail.com>

I'm away from May 17-31 but it would be great to do a demo to him of what we
have by then and then prepare for a visit to Zambia.

2008/4/15 Daniel Myung <dmyung at dimagi.com>:

> sounds good, monday noon is good.
>
> dr. parham is going to be in boston at the end of may.  you guys going to
> be around?
>
> 2008/4/15 Andr?s Monroy-Hern?ndez <andresmh at media.mit.edu>:
>
> Good. Let's meet on Monday at the Media Lab. Give me a call if the doors
> > are closed 857-204-9474.
> >
> > 2008/4/15, Leo Anthony Celi <leoanthonyceli at yahoo.com>:
> > >
> > >  Hi,
> > >         We've postponed tomorrow's meeting to Monday (April 21,
> > > Patriot's Day) at noon.  WE hope this is okay with you, Daniel.  It turned
> > > out Andres has classes tomorrow.  Andres, can we meet at Media Lab?  I LOVE
> > > that place.
> > > Cheers,
> > > Leo
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Cidrz mailing list
> > > Cidrz at mit.edu
> > > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/cidrz
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
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> > _______________________________________________
> > Cidrz mailing list
> > Cidrz at mit.edu
> > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/cidrz
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> Daniel Myung
> Senior Engineer
> Dimagi, Inc | One Kendall Square | Bldg. 400, 4th Floor | Cambridge, MA
> 02139
> work: (617) 621 8595 | cell: (617) 645 3236
> http://www.dimagi.com/
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From dmyung at dimagi.com  Tue Apr 15 15:48:53 2008
From: dmyung at dimagi.com (Daniel Myung)
Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 15:48:53 -0400
Subject: [Cidrz] Wednesday Meeting Postponed
In-Reply-To: <d0a8a7530804151225mcdb4a5ci18427ba394499e88@mail.gmail.com>
References: <73210.54790.qm@web38001.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<d0a8a7530804151210h580a8c8du87bf7a2e08a9327f@mail.gmail.com>
	<46fb10300804151222t5af46be5q126cf1b3ce6967ae@mail.gmail.com>
	<d0a8a7530804151225mcdb4a5ci18427ba394499e88@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <46fb10300804151248q2bd68b33v6410bc614bdcecd2@mail.gmail.com>

ugh, he's going to be in town 27-29th.  i'm away from the 31st to the 14th
of june fyi.  but as part of his visit i want to iron out a travel plan for
both of you if you guys are willing and able.

2008/4/15 Andr?s Monroy-Hern?ndez <andresmh at media.mit.edu>:

> I'm away from May 17-31 but it would be great to do a demo to him of what
> we have by then and then prepare for a visit to Zambia.
>
> 2008/4/15 Daniel Myung <dmyung at dimagi.com>:
>
> sounds good, monday noon is good.
> >
> > dr. parham is going to be in boston at the end of may.  you guys going
> > to be around?
> >
> > 2008/4/15 Andr?s Monroy-Hern?ndez <andresmh at media.mit.edu>:
> >
> > Good. Let's meet on Monday at the Media Lab. Give me a call if the doors
> > > are closed 857-204-9474.
> > >
> > > 2008/4/15, Leo Anthony Celi <leoanthonyceli at yahoo.com>:
> > > >
> > > >  Hi,
> > > >         We've postponed tomorrow's meeting to Monday (April 21,
> > > > Patriot's Day) at noon.  WE hope this is okay with you, Daniel.  It turned
> > > > out Andres has classes tomorrow.  Andres, can we meet at Media Lab?  I LOVE
> > > > that place.
> > > > Cheers,
> > > > Leo
> > > >
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > Cidrz mailing list
> > > > Cidrz at mit.edu
> > > > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/cidrz
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Andr?s
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Cidrz mailing list
> > > Cidrz at mit.edu
> > > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/cidrz
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Daniel Myung
> > Senior Engineer
> > Dimagi, Inc | One Kendall Square | Bldg. 400, 4th Floor | Cambridge, MA
> > 02139
> > work: (617) 621 8595 | cell: (617) 645 3236
> > http://www.dimagi.com/
> > _______________________________________________
> > Cidrz mailing list
> > Cidrz at mit.edu
> > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/cidrz
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> Andr?s
> _______________________________________________
> Cidrz mailing list
> Cidrz at mit.edu
> http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/cidrz
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>


-- 
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Senior Engineer
Dimagi, Inc | One Kendall Square | Bldg. 400, 4th Floor | Cambridge, MA
02139
work: (617) 621 8595 | cell: (617) 645 3236
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From leoanthonyceli at yahoo.com  Tue Apr 15 15:51:23 2008
From: leoanthonyceli at yahoo.com (Leo Anthony Celi)
Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 12:51:23 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Cidrz] Wednesday Meeting Postponed
In-Reply-To: <46fb10300804151222t5af46be5q126cf1b3ce6967ae@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <847262.39118.qm@web38005.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Yes, I'll be around.
  Leo

Daniel Myung <dmyung at dimagi.com> wrote:
  sounds good, monday noon is good.

dr. parham is going to be in boston at the end of may.  you guys going to be around?

  2008/4/15 Andr?s Monroy-Hern?ndez <andresmh at media.mit.edu>:
  Good. Let's meet on Monday at the Media Lab. Give me a call if the doors are closed 857-204-9474.

  2008/4/15, Leo Anthony Celi <leoanthonyceli at yahoo.com>:      
    Hi,
          We've postponed tomorrow's meeting to Monday (April 21, Patriot's Day) at noon.  WE hope this is okay with you, Daniel.  It turned out Andres has classes tomorrow.  Andres, can we meet at Media Lab?  I LOVE that place.
  Cheers,
  Leo



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work: (617) 621 8595 | cell: (617) 645 3236
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From dmyung at dimagi.com  Tue Apr 15 15:54:09 2008
From: dmyung at dimagi.com (Daniel Myung)
Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 15:54:09 -0400
Subject: [Cidrz] Wednesday Meeting Postponed
In-Reply-To: <847262.39118.qm@web38005.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <46fb10300804151222t5af46be5q126cf1b3ce6967ae@mail.gmail.com>
	<847262.39118.qm@web38005.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <46fb10300804151254l5aa7afe5g5c89c2f9441e74a3@mail.gmail.com>

great...we've arranged it tentatively to be noon on thursday the 29th.

2008/4/15 Leo Anthony Celi <leoanthonyceli at yahoo.com>:

> Yes, I'll be around.
> Leo
>
>
> *Daniel Myung <dmyung at dimagi.com>* wrote:
>
> sounds good, monday noon is good.
>
> dr. parham is going to be in boston at the end of may.  you guys going to
> be around?
>
>
>
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From leoanthonyceli at yahoo.com  Tue Apr 15 23:41:09 2008
From: leoanthonyceli at yahoo.com (Leo Anthony Celi)
Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 20:41:09 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Cidrz] (no subject)
Message-ID: <728572.62387.qm@web38009.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Hey, Daniel,
         Thanks for the addition to the Google document!
  Cheers,
  Leo
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From andresmh at media.mit.edu  Thu Apr 17 13:59:22 2008
From: andresmh at media.mit.edu (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Andr=E9s_Monroy-Hern=E1ndez?=)
Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 13:59:22 -0400
Subject: [Cidrz] related work - published papers
Message-ID: <d0a8a7530804171059k2e73d6efm9d1ceac6dbefeae0@mail.gmail.com>

http://archderm.highwire.org/cgi/content/abstract/141/2/254

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From leoanthonyceli at yahoo.com  Mon Apr 21 14:15:45 2008
From: leoanthonyceli at yahoo.com (Leo Anthony Celi)
Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 11:15:45 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Cidrz] Tasks
Message-ID: <827339.62708.qm@web38010.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Things to be done:
  1.  data management at server-end (LAMP?) (Andres to work with Adam Marcus from IRD)
  2.  interface at server-end that displays patient id, image with date and time stamp, clinical
       information transmitted with image, text box for doctor to enter comments, text box for 
       possible comments after QA/QI discussion (Andres)
  3.  application that would send the image plus the clinic phone number from the server to
       the doctor in Lusaka (Daniel)
  4.  expand workflow portion of the Google document to include all the details we've
       discussed (Leo)
  5.  expand background to include applications already in use using cell phone for medical
       consultation (Leo)
  6.  create section of how this application can be applied more widely in medicine, and how 
       it is better than the current applications in that data archival allows for follow-up,
       QA/QI, outcomes tracking (Leo)
  Next meeting is on April 28 (Monday) at 2 PM at Media Lab.  All the above should theoretically be completed by then.  The last week should be for final touches, e.g. improving the appearance of the interfaces, preparation of powerpoint presentation, making of the video for the demo.
  The demo video will be filmed on May 4, a week from Sunday, at 12 noon, also at the Media Lab.
  Leo, Gari and Daniel Myung to meet with Dr. Parham from CIDRZ on May 28 at 1 PM at the Dimagi office.  (Daniel, have we confirmed this time?)
  Plans for Andres and Leo to go to Zambia early or middle part of June.  (Where would the funding come from?  Gari, can we still use the money from class that we didn't get to use or is that forfeited when the semester is over?)  Definite agenda is necessary to optimize time in Zambia. 
   
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From gari.clifford at gmail.com  Mon Apr 21 15:45:00 2008
From: gari.clifford at gmail.com (Gari Clifford)
Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 15:45:00 -0400
Subject: [Cidrz] Tasks
In-Reply-To: <827339.62708.qm@web38010.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <827339.62708.qm@web38010.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <7be6ee2f0804211245l7f7d3fetc54ae1b62f8a95e9@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Leo,

do you mean may or april 28th? We'll have to check with Jhnoatan about the
money - I don't see why not - this would be a great thing for the class to
carry on sponsoring.

-G

2008/4/21 Leo Anthony Celi <leoanthonyceli at yahoo.com>:

> Things to be done:
> 1.  data management at server-end (LAMP?) (Andres to work with Adam Marcus
> from IRD)
> 2.  interface at server-end that displays patient id, image with date and
> time stamp, clinical
>      information transmitted with image, text box for doctor to enter
> comments, text box for
>      possible comments after QA/QI discussion (Andres)
> 3.  application that would send the image plus the clinic phone number
> from the server to
>      the doctor in Lusaka (Daniel)
> 4.  expand workflow portion of the Google document to include all the
> details we've
>      discussed (Leo)
> 5.  expand background to include applications already in use using cell
> phone for medical
>      consultation (Leo)
> 6.  create section of how this application can be applied more widely in
> medicine, and how
>      it is better than the current applications in that data
> archival allows for follow-up,
>      QA/QI, outcomes tracking (Leo)
> Next meeting is on April 28 (Monday) at 2 PM at Media Lab.  All the above
> should theoretically be completed by then.  The last week should be for
> final touches, e.g. improving the appearance of the interfaces, preparation
> of powerpoint presentation, making of the video for the demo.
> The demo video will be filmed on May 4, a week from Sunday, at 12 noon,
> also at the Media Lab.
> Leo, Gari and Daniel Myung to meet with Dr. Parham from CIDRZ on May 28 at
> 1 PM at the Dimagi office.  (Daniel, have we confirmed this time?)
> Plans for Andres and Leo to go to Zambia early or middle part of June.
> (Where would the funding come from?  Gari, can we still use the money from
> class that we didn't get to use or is that forfeited when the semester is
> over?)  Definite agenda is necessary to optimize time in Zambia.
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Cidrz mailing list
> Cidrz at mit.edu
> http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/cidrz
>
>


-- 
G. D. Clifford, PhD, SMIEEE
Principal Research Scientist,
Massachusetts Institute of Technology,
Instructor in Biomedical Engineering, HST,
(Harvard-MIT Division of Health Sciences & Technology)
Engineering Manager for the L.C.P. at M.I.T.
(Laboratory for Computational Physiology),
Rm E25-505DA, 45 Carleton St., Cambridge MA 02142
Tel: +16172537937 / +448444368530
Fax: +16172587859 email: gari at alum.mit.edu
http://alum.mit.edu/www/gari
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From dmyung at dimagi.com  Mon Apr 21 15:48:19 2008
From: dmyung at dimagi.com (Daniel Myung)
Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 15:48:19 -0400
Subject: [Cidrz] Tasks
In-Reply-To: <7be6ee2f0804211245l7f7d3fetc54ae1b62f8a95e9@mail.gmail.com>
References: <827339.62708.qm@web38010.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<7be6ee2f0804211245l7f7d3fetc54ae1b62f8a95e9@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <46fb10300804211248l4ab76c3dl311185082401fb81@mail.gmail.com>

for the cidrz visit to bosotn, it will be May 28th, not april or march.  I
wonder if they were possibly mistaken on that end too, let me confirm.

2008/4/21 Gari Clifford <gari.clifford at gmail.com>:

> Hi Leo,
>
> do you mean may or april 28th? We'll have to check with Jhnoatan about the
> money - I don't see why not - this would be a great thing for the class to
> carry on sponsoring.
>
> -G
>
> 2008/4/21 Leo Anthony Celi <leoanthonyceli at yahoo.com>:
>
> > Things to be done:
> > 1.  data management at server-end (LAMP?) (Andres to work with Adam
> > Marcus from IRD)
> > 2.  interface at server-end that displays patient id, image with date
> > and time stamp, clinical
> >      information transmitted with image, text box for doctor to enter
> > comments, text box for
> >      possible comments after QA/QI discussion (Andres)
> > 3.  application that would send the image plus the clinic phone number
> > from the server to
> >      the doctor in Lusaka (Daniel)
> > 4.  expand workflow portion of the Google document to include all the
> > details we've
> >      discussed (Leo)
> > 5.  expand background to include applications already in use using cell
> > phone for medical
> >      consultation (Leo)
> > 6.  create section of how this application can be applied more widely in
> > medicine, and how
> >      it is better than the current applications in that data
> > archival allows for follow-up,
> >      QA/QI, outcomes tracking (Leo)
> > Next meeting is on April 28 (Monday) at 2 PM at Media Lab.  All the
> > above should theoretically be completed by then.  The last week should be
> > for final touches, e.g. improving the appearance of the interfaces,
> > preparation of powerpoint presentation, making of the video for the demo.
> > The demo video will be filmed on May 4, a week from Sunday, at 12 noon,
> > also at the Media Lab.
> > Leo, Gari and Daniel Myung to meet with Dr. Parham from CIDRZ on May 28
> > at 1 PM at the Dimagi office.  (Daniel, have we confirmed this time?)
> > Plans for Andres and Leo to go to Zambia early or middle part of June.
> > (Where would the funding come from?  Gari, can we still use the money from
> > class that we didn't get to use or is that forfeited when the semester is
> > over?)  Definite agenda is necessary to optimize time in Zambia.
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Cidrz mailing list
> > Cidrz at mit.edu
> > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/cidrz
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> G. D. Clifford, PhD, SMIEEE
> Principal Research Scientist,
> Massachusetts Institute of Technology,
> Instructor in Biomedical Engineering, HST,
> (Harvard-MIT Division of Health Sciences & Technology)
> Engineering Manager for the L.C.P. at M.I.T.
> (Laboratory for Computational Physiology),
> Rm E25-505DA, 45 Carleton St., Cambridge MA 02142
> Tel: +16172537937 / +448444368530
> Fax: +16172587859 email: gari at alum.mit.edu
> http://alum.mit.edu/www/gari
> _______________________________________________
> Cidrz mailing list
> Cidrz at mit.edu
> http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/cidrz
>
>


-- 
Daniel Myung
Senior Engineer
Dimagi, Inc | One Kendall Square | Bldg. 400, 4th Floor | Cambridge, MA
02139
work: (617) 621 8595 | cell: (617) 645 3236
http://www.dimagi.com/
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From dmyung at dimagi.com  Mon Apr 21 16:17:23 2008
From: dmyung at dimagi.com (Daniel Myung)
Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 16:17:23 -0400
Subject: [Cidrz] Tasks
In-Reply-To: <46fb10300804211248l4ab76c3dl311185082401fb81@mail.gmail.com>
References: <827339.62708.qm@web38010.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<7be6ee2f0804211245l7f7d3fetc54ae1b62f8a95e9@mail.gmail.com>
	<46fb10300804211248l4ab76c3dl311185082401fb81@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <46fb10300804211317n18daafdna6836784904c337d@mail.gmail.com>

hey all, just an update on the MMS front...it looks like it may be a bit
more trouble than its worth in the short term...another moving part that can
go wrong in the time we have.  There are a few open source tools/gateways
available to do MMS over GPRS (as that's the MM1 protocol), and i'm sure it
won't be too difficult to implement.  It would involve making a gateway to
interface with the local (tmobile or celtel's) WAP/MMS gateway to package
and transmit it to the recipients' phones. I don't think we lose that much
generality if we just send an sms with a url link for viewage.

Dan

On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 3:48 PM, Daniel Myung <dmyung at dimagi.com> wrote:

> for the cidrz visit to bosotn, it will be May 28th, not april or march.  I
> wonder if they were possibly mistaken on that end too, let me confirm.
>
> 2008/4/21 Gari Clifford <gari.clifford at gmail.com>:
>
> Hi Leo,
> >
> > do you mean may or april 28th? We'll have to check with Jhnoatan about
> > the money - I don't see why not - this would be a great thing for the class
> > to carry on sponsoring.
> >
> > -G
> >
> > 2008/4/21 Leo Anthony Celi <leoanthonyceli at yahoo.com>:
> >
> > >  Things to be done:
> > > 1.  data management at server-end (LAMP?) (Andres to work with Adam
> > > Marcus from IRD)
> > > 2.  interface at server-end that displays patient id, image with date
> > > and time stamp, clinical
> > >      information transmitted with image, text box for doctor to enter
> > > comments, text box for
> > >      possible comments after QA/QI discussion (Andres)
> > > 3.  application that would send the image plus the clinic phone number
> > > from the server to
> > >      the doctor in Lusaka (Daniel)
> > > 4.  expand workflow portion of the Google document to include all the
> > > details we've
> > >      discussed (Leo)
> > > 5.  expand background to include applications already in use using
> > > cell phone for medical
> > >      consultation (Leo)
> > > 6.  create section of how this application can be applied more widely
> > > in medicine, and how
> > >      it is better than the current applications in that data
> > > archival allows for follow-up,
> > >      QA/QI, outcomes tracking (Leo)
> > > Next meeting is on April 28 (Monday) at 2 PM at Media Lab.  All the
> > > above should theoretically be completed by then.  The last week should be
> > > for final touches, e.g. improving the appearance of the interfaces,
> > > preparation of powerpoint presentation, making of the video for the demo.
> > > The demo video will be filmed on May 4, a week from Sunday, at 12
> > > noon, also at the Media Lab.
> > > Leo, Gari and Daniel Myung to meet with Dr. Parham from CIDRZ on May
> > > 28 at 1 PM at the Dimagi office.  (Daniel, have we confirmed this time?)
> > > Plans for Andres and Leo to go to Zambia early or middle part of
> > > June.  (Where would the funding come from?  Gari, can we still use the money
> > > from class that we didn't get to use or is that forfeited when the semester
> > > is over?)  Definite agenda is necessary to optimize time in Zambia.
> > >
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Cidrz mailing list
> > > Cidrz at mit.edu
> > > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/cidrz
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > G. D. Clifford, PhD, SMIEEE
> > Principal Research Scientist,
> > Massachusetts Institute of Technology,
> > Instructor in Biomedical Engineering, HST,
> > (Harvard-MIT Division of Health Sciences & Technology)
> > Engineering Manager for the L.C.P. at M.I.T.
> > (Laboratory for Computational Physiology),
> > Rm E25-505DA, 45 Carleton St., Cambridge MA 02142
> > Tel: +16172537937 / +448444368530
> > Fax: +16172587859 email: gari at alum.mit.edu
> > http://alum.mit.edu/www/gari
> > _______________________________________________
> > Cidrz mailing list
> > Cidrz at mit.edu
> > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/cidrz
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> Daniel Myung
> Senior Engineer
> Dimagi, Inc | One Kendall Square | Bldg. 400, 4th Floor | Cambridge, MA
> 02139
> work: (617) 621 8595 | cell: (617) 645 3236
> http://www.dimagi.com/




-- 
Daniel Myung
Senior Engineer
Dimagi, Inc | One Kendall Square | Bldg. 400, 4th Floor | Cambridge, MA
02139
work: (617) 621 8595 | cell: (617) 645 3236
http://www.dimagi.com/
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From andresmh at media.mit.edu  Mon Apr 21 16:22:18 2008
From: andresmh at media.mit.edu (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Andr=E9s_Monroy-Hern=E1ndez?=)
Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 16:22:18 -0400
Subject: [Cidrz] Tasks
In-Reply-To: <46fb10300804211317n18daafdna6836784904c337d@mail.gmail.com>
References: <827339.62708.qm@web38010.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<7be6ee2f0804211245l7f7d3fetc54ae1b62f8a95e9@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <d0a8a7530804211322vf855746s75e988b186187923@mail.gmail.com>

Do we even know if Celtel provides has an SMS gateway and if it is
accessible via email (like in the US)?


2008/4/21, Daniel Myung <dmyung at dimagi.com>:
>
> hey all, just an update on the MMS front...it looks like it may be a bit
> more trouble than its worth in the short term...another moving part that can
> go wrong in the time we have.  There are a few open source tools/gateways
> available to do MMS over GPRS (as that's the MM1 protocol), and i'm sure it
> won't be too difficult to implement.  It would involve making a gateway to
> interface with the local (tmobile or celtel's) WAP/MMS gateway to package
> and transmit it to the recipients' phones. I don't think we lose that much
> generality if we just send an sms with a url link for viewage.
>
> Dan
>
> On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 3:48 PM, Daniel Myung <dmyung at dimagi.com> wrote:
>
> > for the cidrz visit to bosotn, it will be May 28th, not april or march.
> > I wonder if they were possibly mistaken on that end too, let me confirm.
> >
> > 2008/4/21 Gari Clifford <gari.clifford at gmail.com>:
> >
> > Hi Leo,
> > >
> > > do you mean may or april 28th? We'll have to check with Jhnoatan about
> > > the money - I don't see why not - this would be a great thing for the class
> > > to carry on sponsoring.
> > >
> > > -G
> > >
> > > 2008/4/21 Leo Anthony Celi <leoanthonyceli at yahoo.com>:
> > >
> > > >  Things to be done:
> > > > 1.  data management at server-end (LAMP?) (Andres to work with Adam
> > > > Marcus from IRD)
> > > > 2.  interface at server-end that displays patient id, image with
> > > > date and time stamp, clinical
> > > >      information transmitted with image, text box for doctor to
> > > > enter comments, text box for
> > > >      possible comments after QA/QI discussion (Andres)
> > > > 3.  application that would send the image plus the clinic phone
> > > > number from the server to
> > > >      the doctor in Lusaka (Daniel)
> > > > 4.  expand workflow portion of the Google document to include all
> > > > the details we've
> > > >      discussed (Leo)
> > > > 5.  expand background to include applications already in use using
> > > > cell phone for medical
> > > >      consultation (Leo)
> > > > 6.  create section of how this application can be applied more
> > > > widely in medicine, and how
> > > >      it is better than the current applications in that data
> > > > archival allows for follow-up,
> > > >      QA/QI, outcomes tracking (Leo)
> > > > Next meeting is on April 28 (Monday) at 2 PM at Media Lab.  All the
> > > > above should theoretically be completed by then.  The last week should be
> > > > for final touches, e.g. improving the appearance of the interfaces,
> > > > preparation of powerpoint presentation, making of the video for the demo.
> > > > The demo video will be filmed on May 4, a week from Sunday, at 12
> > > > noon, also at the Media Lab.
> > > > Leo, Gari and Daniel Myung to meet with Dr. Parham from CIDRZ on May
> > > > 28 at 1 PM at the Dimagi office.  (Daniel, have we confirmed this time?)
> > > > Plans for Andres and Leo to go to Zambia early or middle part of
> > > > June.  (Where would the funding come from?  Gari, can we still use the money
> > > > from class that we didn't get to use or is that forfeited when the semester
> > > > is over?)  Definite agenda is necessary to optimize time in Zambia.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > Cidrz mailing list
> > > > Cidrz at mit.edu
> > > > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/cidrz
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > G. D. Clifford, PhD, SMIEEE
> > > Principal Research Scientist,
> > > Massachusetts Institute of Technology,
> > > Instructor in Biomedical Engineering, HST,
> > > (Harvard-MIT Division of Health Sciences & Technology)
> > > Engineering Manager for the L.C.P. at M.I.T.
> > > (Laboratory for Computational Physiology),
> > > Rm E25-505DA, 45 Carleton St., Cambridge MA 02142
> > > Tel: +16172537937 / +448444368530
> > > Fax: +16172587859 email: gari at alum.mit.edu
> > > http://alum.mit.edu/www/gari
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Cidrz mailing list
> > > Cidrz at mit.edu
> > > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/cidrz
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Daniel Myung
> > Senior Engineer
> > Dimagi, Inc | One Kendall Square | Bldg. 400, 4th Floor | Cambridge, MA
> > 02139
> > work: (617) 621 8595 | cell: (617) 645 3236
> > http://www.dimagi.com/
>
>
>
>
> --
> Daniel Myung
> Senior Engineer
> Dimagi, Inc | One Kendall Square | Bldg. 400, 4th Floor | Cambridge, MA
> 02139
> work: (617) 621 8595 | cell: (617) 645 3236
> http://www.dimagi.com/
>
> _______________________________________________
> Cidrz mailing list
> Cidrz at mit.edu
> http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/cidrz
>
>


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From dmyung at dimagi.com  Mon Apr 21 16:28:49 2008
From: dmyung at dimagi.com (Daniel Myung)
Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 16:28:49 -0400
Subject: [Cidrz] Tasks
In-Reply-To: <d0a8a7530804211322vf855746s75e988b186187923@mail.gmail.com>
References: <827339.62708.qm@web38010.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<7be6ee2f0804211245l7f7d3fetc54ae1b62f8a95e9@mail.gmail.com>
	<46fb10300804211248l4ab76c3dl311185082401fb81@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <46fb10300804211328l4c64263ft8dd4b841c6f68862@mail.gmail.com>

wap/internet proxy information:
http://www.zm.celtel.com/en/phone-services/celtel-access/index.html

sms stuff:
http://www.zm.celtel.com/en/web2sms/index.html

looks like because of the "sender pays" pricing system in zambia, it's not
as easy to just send via email.  i'll look into seeing if that's doable.

dan

2008/4/21 Andr?s Monroy-Hern?ndez <andresmh at media.mit.edu>:

> Do we even know if Celtel provides has an SMS gateway and if it is
> accessible via email (like in the US)?
>
>
> 2008/4/21, Daniel Myung <dmyung at dimagi.com>:
>
> > hey all, just an update on the MMS front...it looks like it may be a bit
> > more trouble than its worth in the short term...another moving part that can
> > go wrong in the time we have.  There are a few open source tools/gateways
> > available to do MMS over GPRS (as that's the MM1 protocol), and i'm sure it
> > won't be too difficult to implement.  It would involve making a gateway to
> > interface with the local (tmobile or celtel's) WAP/MMS gateway to package
> > and transmit it to the recipients' phones. I don't think we lose that much
> > generality if we just send an sms with a url link for viewage.
> >
> > Dan
> >
> > On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 3:48 PM, Daniel Myung <dmyung at dimagi.com> wrote:
> >
> > > for the cidrz visit to bosotn, it will be May 28th, not april or
> > > march.  I wonder if they were possibly mistaken on that end too, let me
> > > confirm.
> > >
> > > 2008/4/21 Gari Clifford <gari.clifford at gmail.com>:
> > >
> > > Hi Leo,
> > > >
> > > > do you mean may or april 28th? We'll have to check with Jhnoatan
> > > > about the money - I don't see why not - this would be a great thing for the
> > > > class to carry on sponsoring.
> > > >
> > > > -G
> > > >
> > > > 2008/4/21 Leo Anthony Celi <leoanthonyceli at yahoo.com>:
> > > >
> > > > >  Things to be done:
> > > > > 1.  data management at server-end (LAMP?) (Andres to work with
> > > > > Adam Marcus from IRD)
> > > > > 2.  interface at server-end that displays patient id, image with
> > > > > date and time stamp, clinical
> > > > >      information transmitted with image, text box for doctor to
> > > > > enter comments, text box for
> > > > >      possible comments after QA/QI discussion (Andres)
> > > > > 3.  application that would send the image plus the clinic phone
> > > > > number from the server to
> > > > >      the doctor in Lusaka (Daniel)
> > > > > 4.  expand workflow portion of the Google document to include all
> > > > > the details we've
> > > > >      discussed (Leo)
> > > > > 5.  expand background to include applications already in use using
> > > > > cell phone for medical
> > > > >      consultation (Leo)
> > > > > 6.  create section of how this application can be applied more
> > > > > widely in medicine, and how
> > > > >      it is better than the current applications in that data
> > > > > archival allows for follow-up,
> > > > >      QA/QI, outcomes tracking (Leo)
> > > > > Next meeting is on April 28 (Monday) at 2 PM at Media Lab.  All
> > > > > the above should theoretically be completed by then.  The last week should
> > > > > be for final touches, e.g. improving the appearance of the interfaces,
> > > > > preparation of powerpoint presentation, making of the video for the demo.
> > > > > The demo video will be filmed on May 4, a week from Sunday, at 12
> > > > > noon, also at the Media Lab.
> > > > > Leo, Gari and Daniel Myung to meet with Dr. Parham from CIDRZ on
> > > > > May 28 at 1 PM at the Dimagi office.  (Daniel, have we confirmed this time?)
> > > > > Plans for Andres and Leo to go to Zambia early or middle part of
> > > > > June.  (Where would the funding come from?  Gari, can we still use the money
> > > > > from class that we didn't get to use or is that forfeited when the semester
> > > > > is over?)  Definite agenda is necessary to optimize time in Zambia.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > > Cidrz mailing list
> > > > > Cidrz at mit.edu
> > > > > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/cidrz
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > G. D. Clifford, PhD, SMIEEE
> > > > Principal Research Scientist,
> > > > Massachusetts Institute of Technology,
> > > > Instructor in Biomedical Engineering, HST,
> > > > (Harvard-MIT Division of Health Sciences & Technology)
> > > > Engineering Manager for the L.C.P. at M.I.T.
> > > > (Laboratory for Computational Physiology),
> > > > Rm E25-505DA, 45 Carleton St., Cambridge MA 02142
> > > > Tel: +16172537937 / +448444368530
> > > > Fax: +16172587859 email: gari at alum.mit.edu
> > > > http://alum.mit.edu/www/gari
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > Cidrz mailing list
> > > > Cidrz at mit.edu
> > > > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/cidrz
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Daniel Myung
> > > Senior Engineer
> > > Dimagi, Inc | One Kendall Square | Bldg. 400, 4th Floor | Cambridge,
> > > MA 02139
> > > work: (617) 621 8595 | cell: (617) 645 3236
> > > http://www.dimagi.com/
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Daniel Myung
> > Senior Engineer
> > Dimagi, Inc | One Kendall Square | Bldg. 400, 4th Floor | Cambridge, MA
> > 02139
> > work: (617) 621 8595 | cell: (617) 645 3236
> > http://www.dimagi.com/
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Cidrz mailing list
> > Cidrz at mit.edu
> > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/cidrz
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> Andr?s
> _______________________________________________
> Cidrz mailing list
> Cidrz at mit.edu
> http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/cidrz
>
>


-- 
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Senior Engineer
Dimagi, Inc | One Kendall Square | Bldg. 400, 4th Floor | Cambridge, MA
02139
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From gari.clifford at gmail.com  Mon Apr 21 19:38:17 2008
From: gari.clifford at gmail.com (Gari Clifford)
Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 19:38:17 -0400
Subject: [Cidrz] Tasks
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May 28th sounds good.
Here's the mp3 recording voip company I spoke about today:
http://www.fireflytelecom.com/
-Gari

2008/4/21 Daniel Myung <dmyung at dimagi.com>:

> wap/internet proxy information:
> http://www.zm.celtel.com/en/phone-services/celtel-access/index.html
>
> sms stuff:
> http://www.zm.celtel.com/en/web2sms/index.html
>
> looks like because of the "sender pays" pricing system in zambia, it's not
> as easy to just send via email.  i'll look into seeing if that's doable.
>
> dan
>
> 2008/4/21 Andr?s Monroy-Hern?ndez <andresmh at media.mit.edu>:
>
> Do we even know if Celtel provides has an SMS gateway and if it is
> > accessible via email (like in the US)?
> >
> >
> > 2008/4/21, Daniel Myung <dmyung at dimagi.com>:
> >
> > > hey all, just an update on the MMS front...it looks like it may be a
> > > bit more trouble than its worth in the short term...another moving part that
> > > can go wrong in the time we have.  There are a few open source
> > > tools/gateways available to do MMS over GPRS (as that's the MM1 protocol),
> > > and i'm sure it won't be too difficult to implement.  It would involve
> > > making a gateway to interface with the local (tmobile or celtel's) WAP/MMS
> > > gateway to package and transmit it to the recipients' phones. I don't think
> > > we lose that much generality if we just send an sms with a url link for
> > > viewage.
> > >
> > > Dan
> > >
> > > On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 3:48 PM, Daniel Myung <dmyung at dimagi.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > for the cidrz visit to bosotn, it will be May 28th, not april or
> > > > march.  I wonder if they were possibly mistaken on that end too, let me
> > > > confirm.
> > > >
> > > > 2008/4/21 Gari Clifford <gari.clifford at gmail.com>:
> > > >
> > > > Hi Leo,
> > > > >
> > > > > do you mean may or april 28th? We'll have to check with Jhnoatan
> > > > > about the money - I don't see why not - this would be a great thing for the
> > > > > class to carry on sponsoring.
> > > > >
> > > > > -G
> > > > >
> > > > > 2008/4/21 Leo Anthony Celi <leoanthonyceli at yahoo.com>:
> > > > >
> > > > > >  Things to be done:
> > > > > > 1.  data management at server-end (LAMP?) (Andres to work with
> > > > > > Adam Marcus from IRD)
> > > > > > 2.  interface at server-end that displays patient id, image with
> > > > > > date and time stamp, clinical
> > > > > >      information transmitted with image, text box for doctor to
> > > > > > enter comments, text box for
> > > > > >      possible comments after QA/QI discussion (Andres)
> > > > > > 3.  application that would send the image plus the clinic phone
> > > > > > number from the server to
> > > > > >      the doctor in Lusaka (Daniel)
> > > > > > 4.  expand workflow portion of the Google document to include
> > > > > > all the details we've
> > > > > >      discussed (Leo)
> > > > > > 5.  expand background to include applications already in use
> > > > > > using cell phone for medical
> > > > > >      consultation (Leo)
> > > > > > 6.  create section of how this application can be applied more
> > > > > > widely in medicine, and how
> > > > > >      it is better than the current applications in that data
> > > > > > archival allows for follow-up,
> > > > > >      QA/QI, outcomes tracking (Leo)
> > > > > > Next meeting is on April 28 (Monday) at 2 PM at Media Lab.  All
> > > > > > the above should theoretically be completed by then.  The last week should
> > > > > > be for final touches, e.g. improving the appearance of the interfaces,
> > > > > > preparation of powerpoint presentation, making of the video for the demo.
> > > > > > The demo video will be filmed on May 4, a week from Sunday, at
> > > > > > 12 noon, also at the Media Lab.
> > > > > > Leo, Gari and Daniel Myung to meet with Dr. Parham from CIDRZ on
> > > > > > May 28 at 1 PM at the Dimagi office.  (Daniel, have we confirmed this time?)
> > > > > > Plans for Andres and Leo to go to Zambia early or middle part of
> > > > > > June.  (Where would the funding come from?  Gari, can we still use the money
> > > > > > from class that we didn't get to use or is that forfeited when the semester
> > > > > > is over?)  Definite agenda is necessary to optimize time in Zambia.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > > > Cidrz mailing list
> > > > > > Cidrz at mit.edu
> > > > > > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/cidrz
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > G. D. Clifford, PhD, SMIEEE
> > > > > Principal Research Scientist,
> > > > > Massachusetts Institute of Technology,
> > > > > Instructor in Biomedical Engineering, HST,
> > > > > (Harvard-MIT Division of Health Sciences & Technology)
> > > > > Engineering Manager for the L.C.P. at M.I.T.
> > > > > (Laboratory for Computational Physiology),
> > > > > Rm E25-505DA, 45 Carleton St., Cambridge MA 02142
> > > > > Tel: +16172537937 / +448444368530
> > > > > Fax: +16172587859 email: gari at alum.mit.edu
> > > > > http://alum.mit.edu/www/gari
> > > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > > Cidrz mailing list
> > > > > Cidrz at mit.edu
> > > > > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/cidrz
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Daniel Myung
> > > > Senior Engineer
> > > > Dimagi, Inc | One Kendall Square | Bldg. 400, 4th Floor | Cambridge,
> > > > MA 02139
> > > > work: (617) 621 8595 | cell: (617) 645 3236
> > > > http://www.dimagi.com/
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Daniel Myung
> > > Senior Engineer
> > > Dimagi, Inc | One Kendall Square | Bldg. 400, 4th Floor | Cambridge,
> > > MA 02139
> > > work: (617) 621 8595 | cell: (617) 645 3236
> > > http://www.dimagi.com/
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Cidrz mailing list
> > > Cidrz at mit.edu
> > > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/cidrz
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Andr?s
> > _______________________________________________
> > Cidrz mailing list
> > Cidrz at mit.edu
> > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/cidrz
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> Daniel Myung
> Senior Engineer
> Dimagi, Inc | One Kendall Square | Bldg. 400, 4th Floor | Cambridge, MA
> 02139
> work: (617) 621 8595 | cell: (617) 645 3236
> http://www.dimagi.com/
>
> _______________________________________________
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> http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/cidrz
>
>


-- 
G. D. Clifford, PhD, SMIEEE
Principal Research Scientist,
Massachusetts Institute of Technology,
Instructor in Biomedical Engineering, HST,
(Harvard-MIT Division of Health Sciences & Technology)
Engineering Manager for the L.C.P. at M.I.T.
(Laboratory for Computational Physiology),
Rm E25-505DA, 45 Carleton St., Cambridge MA 02142
Tel: +16172537937 / +448444368530
Fax: +16172587859 email: gari at alum.mit.edu
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From leoanthonyceli at yahoo.com  Mon Apr 21 20:21:24 2008
From: leoanthonyceli at yahoo.com (Leo Anthony Celi)
Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 17:21:24 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Cidrz] Tasks
In-Reply-To: <46fb10300804211328l4c64263ft8dd4b841c6f68862@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <910625.72729.qm@web38008.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Andres,
          Can you please update the Google document (including the use case diagram) accordingly with the server-to-doctor information flow?  Thanks!
  Leo

Daniel Myung <dmyung at dimagi.com> wrote:
  wap/internet proxy information:
http://www.zm.celtel.com/en/phone-services/celtel-access/index.html

sms stuff:
http://www.zm.celtel.com/en/web2sms/index.html

looks like because of the "sender pays" pricing system in zambia, it's not as easy to just send via email.  i'll look into seeing if that's doable.

dan

  2008/4/21 Andr?s Monroy-Hern?ndez <andresmh at media.mit.edu>:
  Do we even know if Celtel provides has an SMS gateway and if it is accessible via email (like in the US)?


  2008/4/21, Daniel Myung <dmyung at dimagi.com>:    
    hey all, just an update on the MMS front...it looks like it may be a bit more trouble than its worth in the short term...another moving part that can go wrong in the time we have.  There are a few open source tools/gateways available to do MMS over GPRS (as that's the MM1 protocol), and i'm sure it won't be too difficult to implement.  It would involve making a gateway to interface with the local (tmobile or celtel's) WAP/MMS gateway to package and transmit it to the recipients' phones. I don't think we lose that much generality if we just send an sms with a url link for viewage.  

Dan  

  On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 3:48 PM, Daniel Myung <dmyung at dimagi.com> wrote:
  for the cidrz visit to bosotn, it will be May 28th, not april or march.  I wonder if they were possibly mistaken on that end too, let me confirm.

  2008/4/21 Gari Clifford <gari.clifford at gmail.com>:    
  
  Hi Leo,

do you mean may or april 28th? We'll have to check with Jhnoatan about the money - I don't see why not - this would be a great thing for the class to carry on sponsoring.

-G

  2008/4/21 Leo Anthony Celi <leoanthonyceli at yahoo.com>:
      
    Things to be done:
  1.  data management at server-end (LAMP?) (Andres to work with Adam Marcus from IRD)
  2.  interface at server-end that displays patient id, image with date and time stamp, clinical
       information transmitted with image, text box for doctor to enter comments, text box for 
       possible comments after QA/QI discussion (Andres)
  3.  application that would send the image plus the clinic phone number from the server to
       the doctor in Lusaka (Daniel)
  4.  expand workflow portion of the Google document to include all the details we've
       discussed (Leo)
  5.  expand background to include applications already in use using cell phone for medical
       consultation (Leo)
  6.  create section of how this application can be applied more widely in medicine, and how 
       it is better than the current applications in that data archival allows for follow-up,
       QA/QI, outcomes tracking (Leo)
  Next meeting is on April 28 (Monday) at 2 PM at Media Lab.  All the above should theoretically be completed by then.  The last week should be for final touches, e.g. improving the appearance of the interfaces, preparation of powerpoint presentation, making of the video for the demo.
  The demo video will be filmed on May 4, a week from Sunday, at 12 noon, also at the Media Lab.
  Leo, Gari and Daniel Myung to meet with Dr. Parham from CIDRZ on May 28 at 1 PM at the Dimagi office.  (Daniel, have we confirmed this time?)
  Plans for Andres and Leo to go to Zambia early or middle part of June.  (Where would the funding come from?  Gari, can we still use the money from class that we didn't get to use or is that forfeited when the semester is over?)  Definite agenda is necessary to optimize time in Zambia. 
   



_______________________________________________
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Cidrz at mit.edu
http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/cidrz





-- 
G. D. Clifford, PhD, SMIEEE
Principal Research Scientist,
Massachusetts Institute of Technology,
Instructor in Biomedical Engineering, HST,
(Harvard-MIT Division of Health Sciences & Technology)
Engineering Manager for the L.C.P. at M.I.T.
(Laboratory for Computational Physiology),
Rm E25-505DA, 45 Carleton St., Cambridge MA 02142
Tel: +16172537937 / +448444368530
Fax: +16172587859 email: gari at alum.mit.edu
http://alum.mit.edu/www/gari 
_______________________________________________
Cidrz mailing list
Cidrz at mit.edu
http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/cidrz







-- 
Daniel Myung
Senior Engineer
Dimagi, Inc | One Kendall Square | Bldg. 400, 4th Floor | Cambridge, MA 02139
work: (617) 621 8595 | cell: (617) 645 3236
http://www.dimagi.com/ 



-- 
Daniel Myung
Senior Engineer
Dimagi, Inc | One Kendall Square | Bldg. 400, 4th Floor | Cambridge, MA 02139
work: (617) 621 8595 | cell: (617) 645 3236
http://www.dimagi.com/ 

_______________________________________________
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work: (617) 621 8595 | cell: (617) 645 3236
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From andresmh at media.mit.edu  Mon Apr 21 21:57:00 2008
From: andresmh at media.mit.edu (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Andr=E9s_Monroy-Hern=E1ndez?=)
Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 21:57:00 -0400
Subject: [Cidrz] Dates for traveling to Zambia
Message-ID: <d0a8a7530804211857s73fdec8eu2423f381d10d0829@mail.gmail.com>

I would prefer a week somewhere between  the 7th to the 29th of June. I have
to be here the 30th.


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From leoanthonyceli at yahoo.com  Tue Apr 22 00:38:52 2008
From: leoanthonyceli at yahoo.com (Leo Anthony Celi)
Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 21:38:52 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Cidrz] Updated Google Document
Message-ID: <972580.13945.qm@web38014.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Hi,
            I've updated the background (where I included a literature review of the use of cellular phone in medical consultations) and the workflow.  I shall write a paragraph on the potential use of what we've created outside cervical cancer screening and how its archival functionality would make it ideal for follow-up (rather than a one-time decision support), outcome metrics tracking and quality improvement.  Dan, can you tell me the name of that company that provides medical consultation in India via cell phone?  I didn't find it in the New York Times article.
           Andres, I have added a couple of appendices for you: Appendix C. J2ME Code for Image and Data Transmission to Server, and Appendix D. Web Interface for Image, Clinical Data, Diagnosis, Treatment Plan and Review.
           I'll create the field that will be used by the doctor to enter his diagnosis and treatment plan, as well as the field for additional comments after the QA/QI meetings.  I shall email that tomorrow.  I still have to work on my friggin' Mars rover project for my AI class.
          Andres, please note that each image needs a unique identifier on top of the patient ID.  I guess we need another appendix for the schema for the server database?  Has Adam gotten in touch with you?  We need to schedule a time with Luis to help us with sending MMS through GPRS (unless you want to do that for us, Dan).
  Luego...
  Leo
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From jjackson at dimagi.com  Tue Apr 22 02:36:37 2008
From: jjackson at dimagi.com (Jonathan Jackson)
Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 02:36:37 -0400
Subject: [Cidrz] Updated Google Document
In-Reply-To: <972580.13945.qm@web38014.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <480d8785.16078e0a.4078.38c0@mx.google.com>

Hi guys,

 

Quick question on licenses:

 

1.	Any objection to contributing this code into JavaROSA and/or GATHER
when you guys are done?  
2.	Any chosen license for the code you are writing?  Is it GPL
compatible (any 3rd party library licenses to worry about)?  I think lots of
other groups would like the camera functionality to ultimately end up
available in JavaRosa, which will be GPL.  

 

Thanks,

Jonathan

 

  _____  

From: cidrz-bounces at mit.edu [mailto:cidrz-bounces at mit.edu] On Behalf Of Leo
Anthony Celi
Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 12:39 AM
To: cidrz at mit.edu
Subject: [Cidrz] Updated Google Document

 

Hi,

          I've updated the background (where I included a literature review
of the use of cellular phone in medical consultations) and the workflow.  I
shall write a paragraph on the potential use of what we've created outside
cervical cancer screening and how its archival functionality would make it
ideal for follow-up (rather than a one-time decision support), outcome
metrics tracking and quality improvement.  Dan, can you tell me the name of
that company that provides medical consultation in India via cell phone?  I
didn't find it in the New York Times article.

         Andres, I have added a couple of appendices for you: Appendix C.
J2ME Code for Image and Data Transmission to Server, and Appendix D. Web
Interface for Image, Clinical Data, Diagnosis, Treatment Plan and Review.

         I'll create the field that will be used by the doctor to enter his
diagnosis and treatment plan, as well as the field for additional comments
after the QA/QI meetings.  I shall email that tomorrow.  I still have to
work on my friggin' Mars rover project for my AI class.

        Andres, please note that each image needs a unique identifier on top
of the patient ID.  I guess we need another appendix for the schema for the
server database?  Has Adam gotten in touch with you?  We need to schedule a
time with Luis to help us with sending MMS through GPRS (unless you want to
do that for us, Dan).

Luego...

Leo

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From leoanthonyceli at yahoo.com  Tue Apr 22 08:40:38 2008
From: leoanthonyceli at yahoo.com (Leo Anthony Celi)
Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 05:40:38 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Cidrz] Updated Google Document
In-Reply-To: <480d8785.16078e0a.4078.38c0@mx.google.com>
Message-ID: <78190.7455.qm@web38007.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Andres, it's your call.

Jonathan Jackson <jjackson at dimagi.com> wrote:
        v\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);}  o\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);}  w\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);}  .shape {behavior:url(#default#VML);}        st1\:*{behavior:url(#default#ieooui) }                Hi guys,
   
  Quick question on licenses:
   
    
   Any objection to contributing this code into JavaROSA and/or GATHER when you guys are done?    
   Any chosen license for the code you are writing?  Is it GPL compatible (any 3rd party library licenses to worry about)?  I think lots of other groups would like the camera functionality to ultimately end up available in JavaRosa, which will be GPL.  
   
  Thanks,
  Jonathan
   
      
---------------------------------
  
  From: cidrz-bounces at mit.edu [mailto:cidrz-bounces at mit.edu] On Behalf Of Leo Anthony Celi
Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 12:39 AM
To: cidrz at mit.edu
Subject: [Cidrz] Updated Google Document

   
    Hi,

              I've updated the background (where I included a literature review of the use of cellular phone in medical consultations) and the workflow.  I shall write a paragraph on the potential use of what we've created outside cervical cancer screening and how its archival functionality would make it ideal for follow-up (rather than a one-time decision support), outcome metrics tracking and quality improvement.  Dan, can you tell me the name of that company that provides medical consultation in India via cell phone?  I didn't find it in the New York Times article.

             Andres, I have added a couple of appendices for you: Appendix C. J2ME Code for Image and Data Transmission to Server, and Appendix D. Web Interface for Image, Clinical Data, Diagnosis, Treatment Plan and Review.

             I'll create the field that will be used by the doctor to enter his diagnosis and treatment plan, as well as the field for additional comments after the QA/QI meetings.  I shall email that tomorrow.  I still have to work on my friggin' Mars rover project for my AI class.

            Andres, please note that each image needs a unique identifier on top of the patient ID.  I guess we need another appendix for the schema for the server database?  Has Adam gotten in touch with you?  We need to schedule a time with Luis to help us with sending MMS through GPRS (unless you want to do that for us, Dan).

    Luego...

    Leo


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From andresmh at media.mit.edu  Tue Apr 22 09:48:22 2008
From: andresmh at media.mit.edu (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Andr=E9s_Monroy-Hern=E1ndez?=)
Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 09:48:22 -0400
Subject: [Cidrz] Updated Google Document
In-Reply-To: <78190.7455.qm@web38007.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <480d8785.16078e0a.4078.38c0@mx.google.com>
	<78190.7455.qm@web38007.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <d0a8a7530804220648n703f6a17sa532517ee5655670@mail.gmail.com>

It will all be GPL

2008/4/22, Leo Anthony Celi <leoanthonyceli at yahoo.com>:
> Andres, it's your call.
>
>
> Jonathan Jackson <jjackson at dimagi.com> wrote:
>
>
> Hi guys,
>
> Quick question on licenses:
>
>
> Any objection to contributing this code into JavaROSA and/or GATHER when you
> guys are done?
> Any chosen license for the code you are writing?  Is it GPL compatible (any
> 3rd party library licenses to worry about)?  I think lots of other groups
> would like the camera functionality to ultimately end up available in
> JavaRosa, which will be GPL.
>
> Thanks,
> Jonathan
>
>
>  ________________________________
>
> From: cidrz-bounces at mit.edu [mailto:cidrz-bounces at mit.edu] On Behalf Of Leo
> Anthony Celi
> Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 12:39 AM
> To: cidrz at mit.edu
> Subject: [Cidrz] Updated Google Document
>
>
> Hi,
>
>           I've updated the background (where I included a literature review
> of the use of cellular phone in medical consultations) and the workflow.  I
> shall write a paragraph on the potential use of what we've created outside
> cervical cancer screening and how its archival functionality would make it
> ideal for follow-up (rather than a one-time decision support), outcome
> metrics tracking and quality improvement.  Dan, can you tell me the name of
> that company that provides medical consultation in India via cell phone?  I
> didn't find it in the New York Times article.
>
>          Andres, I have added a couple of appendices for you: Appendix C.
> J2ME Code for Image and Data Transmission to Server, and Appendix D. Web
> Interface for Image, Clinical Data, Diagnosis, Treatment Plan and Review.
>
>          I'll create the field that will be used by the doctor to enter his
> diagnosis and treatment plan, as well as the field for additional comments
> after the QA/QI meetings.  I shall email that tomorrow.  I still have to
> work on my friggin' Mars rover project for my AI class.
>
>         Andres, please note that each image needs a unique identifier on top
> of the patient ID.  I guess we need another appendix for the schema for the
> server database?  Has Adam gotten in touch with you?  We need to schedule a
> time with Luis to help us with sending MMS through GPRS (unless you want to
> do that for us, Dan).
>
> Luego...
>
> Leo_______________________________________________
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>
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From leoanthonyceli at yahoo.com  Tue Apr 22 10:40:01 2008
From: leoanthonyceli at yahoo.com (Leo Anthony Celi)
Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 07:40:01 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Cidrz] Check Boxes as Promised
Message-ID: <702503.10579.qm@web38001.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

  
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From leoanthonyceli at yahoo.com  Tue Apr 22 11:03:10 2008
From: leoanthonyceli at yahoo.com (Leo Anthony Celi)
Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 08:03:10 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Cidrz] (no subject)
Message-ID: <780013.21365.qm@web38015.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Below is what I wrote for the potential use of the application outside cervical cancer screening.  I'm done with this for now.  My next task is preparing the powerpoint for the oral presentation on May 8th.
   
  Potential Use of this Application outside Cervical Cancer Screening
This application of transmitting images and clinical data for both real-time decision support and archiving has tremendous potential to transform health care delivery in resource-poor settings.  Current applications whereby images are transmitted from cell phone to cell phone for real-time decision support or from cell phone to a computer via email for store-and-forward systems lack the functionality that would facilitate follow-up, outcomes metric tracking and quality assurance/quality improvement.  Archiving and information management in a server allows remote longitudinal care in order to leverage specialists that are usually only available in the urban centers.  For example, patients from rural areas who had surgery may no longer need to go back repeatedly to the urban hospital for post-operative follow-up evaluation of surgical wound healing.  Because the images are stored, regular peer review of cases are facilitated for QA/QI purposes.  Process and metrics tracking
 can also be automated within the application.
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From dmyung at dimagi.com  Wed Apr 23 11:24:16 2008
From: dmyung at dimagi.com (Daniel Myung)
Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 11:24:16 -0400
Subject: [Cidrz] gsm modem
Message-ID: <46fb10300804230824q6df34862jda8039bcb19d08a9@mail.gmail.com>

hey andres,

do you have the usb gsm modem on hand?  in testing for the MMS stuff, the
software i'm evaluating needs direct gprs access to the network to post the
MMS messages.   can i borrow it for a few days while i tinker with it?

thanks,

Dan

-- 
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Senior Engineer
Dimagi, Inc | One Kendall Square | Bldg. 400, 4th Floor | Cambridge, MA
02139
work: (617) 621 8595 | cell: (617) 645 3236
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From andresmh at media.mit.edu  Wed Apr 23 12:22:16 2008
From: andresmh at media.mit.edu (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Andr=E9s_Monroy-Hern=E1ndez?=)
Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 12:22:16 -0400
Subject: [Cidrz] gsm modem
In-Reply-To: <46fb10300804230824q6df34862jda8039bcb19d08a9@mail.gmail.com>
References: <46fb10300804230824q6df34862jda8039bcb19d08a9@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <d0a8a7530804230922i3d4968ebw4b85dc50388a3dc3@mail.gmail.com>

I have it. Want to stop by?

2008/4/23, Daniel Myung <dmyung at dimagi.com>:
> hey andres,
>
> do you have the usb gsm modem on hand?  in testing for the MMS stuff, the
> software i'm evaluating needs direct gprs access to the network to post the
> MMS messages.   can i borrow it for a few days while i tinker with it?
>
> thanks,
>
> Dan
>
> --
> Daniel Myung
> Senior Engineer
> Dimagi, Inc | One Kendall Square | Bldg. 400, 4th Floor | Cambridge, MA
> 02139
> work: (617) 621 8595 | cell: (617) 645 3236
> http://www.dimagi.com/
> _______________________________________________
>  Cidrz mailing list
>  Cidrz at mit.edu
>  http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/cidrz
>
>


-- 
Andr?s



From dmyung at dimagi.com  Wed Apr 23 16:15:08 2008
From: dmyung at dimagi.com (Daniel Myung)
Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 16:15:08 -0400
Subject: [Cidrz] gsm modem
In-Reply-To: <d0a8a7530804230922i3d4968ebw4b85dc50388a3dc3@mail.gmail.com>
References: <46fb10300804230824q6df34862jda8039bcb19d08a9@mail.gmail.com>
	<d0a8a7530804230922i3d4968ebw4b85dc50388a3dc3@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <46fb10300804231315m2acbe16eu5272d879e18c3be9@mail.gmail.com>

hey, sure thing.  what's your schedule tomorrow, can i stop by then?

On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 12:22 PM, Andr?s Monroy-Hern?ndez <
andresmh at media.mit.edu> wrote:

> I have it. Want to stop by?
>
> 2008/4/23, Daniel Myung <dmyung at dimagi.com>:
> > hey andres,
> >
> > do you have the usb gsm modem on hand?  in testing for the MMS stuff,
> the
> > software i'm evaluating needs direct gprs access to the network to post
> the
> > MMS messages.   can i borrow it for a few days while i tinker with it?
> >
> > thanks,
> >
> > Dan
> >
> > --
> > Daniel Myung
> > Senior Engineer
> > Dimagi, Inc | One Kendall Square | Bldg. 400, 4th Floor | Cambridge, MA
> > 02139
> > work: (617) 621 8595 | cell: (617) 645 3236
> > http://www.dimagi.com/
> > _______________________________________________
> >  Cidrz mailing list
> >  Cidrz at mit.edu
> >  http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/cidrz
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> Andr?s
>
> _______________________________________________
> Cidrz mailing list
> Cidrz at mit.edu
> http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/cidrz
>



-- 
Daniel Myung
Senior Engineer
Dimagi, Inc | One Kendall Square | Bldg. 400, 4th Floor | Cambridge, MA
02139
work: (617) 621 8595 | cell: (617) 645 3236
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From andresmh at media.mit.edu  Wed Apr 23 16:58:51 2008
From: andresmh at media.mit.edu (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Andr=E9s_Monroy-Hern=E1ndez?=)
Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 16:58:51 -0400
Subject: [Cidrz] gsm modem
In-Reply-To: <46fb10300804231315m2acbe16eu5272d879e18c3be9@mail.gmail.com>
References: <46fb10300804230824q6df34862jda8039bcb19d08a9@mail.gmail.com>
	<d0a8a7530804230922i3d4968ebw4b85dc50388a3dc3@mail.gmail.com>
	<46fb10300804231315m2acbe16eu5272d879e18c3be9@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <d0a8a7530804231358l78f19234ladf8733f96a5c687@mail.gmail.com>

I can meet you at the  Media anytime from 12 to 1
or in ICT4D class from 1 to 2.30pm

2008/4/23 Daniel Myung <dmyung at dimagi.com>:
> hey, sure thing.  what's your schedule tomorrow, can i stop by then?
>
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 12:22 PM, Andr?s Monroy-Hern?ndez
> <andresmh at media.mit.edu> wrote:
>
> > I have it. Want to stop by?
> >
> > 2008/4/23, Daniel Myung <dmyung at dimagi.com>:
> >
> >
> >
> > > hey andres,
> > >
> > > do you have the usb gsm modem on hand?  in testing for the MMS stuff,
> the
> > > software i'm evaluating needs direct gprs access to the network to post
> the
> > > MMS messages.   can i borrow it for a few days while i tinker with it?
> > >
> > > thanks,
> > >
> > > Dan
> > >
> > > --
> > > Daniel Myung
> > > Senior Engineer
> > > Dimagi, Inc | One Kendall Square | Bldg. 400, 4th Floor | Cambridge, MA
> > > 02139
> > > work: (617) 621 8595 | cell: (617) 645 3236
> > > http://www.dimagi.com/
> > > _______________________________________________
> > >  Cidrz mailing list
> > >  Cidrz at mit.edu
> > >  http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/cidrz
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Andr?s
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Cidrz mailing list
> > Cidrz at mit.edu
> > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/cidrz
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Daniel Myung
> Senior Engineer
> Dimagi, Inc | One Kendall Square | Bldg. 400, 4th Floor | Cambridge, MA
> 02139
> work: (617) 621 8595 | cell: (617) 645 3236
>  http://www.dimagi.com/
> _______________________________________________
>  Cidrz mailing list
>  Cidrz at mit.edu
>  http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/cidrz
>
>



-- 
Andr?s



From dmyung at dimagi.com  Wed Apr 23 17:03:16 2008
From: dmyung at dimagi.com (Daniel Myung)
Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 17:03:16 -0400
Subject: [Cidrz] gsm modem
In-Reply-To: <d0a8a7530804231358l78f19234ladf8733f96a5c687@mail.gmail.com>
References: <46fb10300804230824q6df34862jda8039bcb19d08a9@mail.gmail.com>
	<d0a8a7530804230922i3d4968ebw4b85dc50388a3dc3@mail.gmail.com>
	<46fb10300804231315m2acbe16eu5272d879e18c3be9@mail.gmail.com>
	<d0a8a7530804231358l78f19234ladf8733f96a5c687@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <46fb10300804231403n4a90bceeh530a71129062ddf6@mail.gmail.com>

actually, you around between now and 6:45?  i can swing by on the way to
kendall

On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 4:58 PM, Andr?s Monroy-Hern?ndez <
andresmh at media.mit.edu> wrote:

> I can meet you at the  Media anytime from 12 to 1
> or in ICT4D class from 1 to 2.30pm
>
> 2008/4/23 Daniel Myung <dmyung at dimagi.com>:
> > hey, sure thing.  what's your schedule tomorrow, can i stop by then?
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 12:22 PM, Andr?s Monroy-Hern?ndez
> > <andresmh at media.mit.edu> wrote:
> >
> > > I have it. Want to stop by?
> > >
> > > 2008/4/23, Daniel Myung <dmyung at dimagi.com>:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > hey andres,
> > > >
> > > > do you have the usb gsm modem on hand?  in testing for the MMS
> stuff,
> > the
> > > > software i'm evaluating needs direct gprs access to the network to
> post
> > the
> > > > MMS messages.   can i borrow it for a few days while i tinker with
> it?
> > > >
> > > > thanks,
> > > >
> > > > Dan
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Daniel Myung
> > > > Senior Engineer
> > > > Dimagi, Inc | One Kendall Square | Bldg. 400, 4th Floor | Cambridge,
> MA
> > > > 02139
> > > > work: (617) 621 8595 | cell: (617) 645 3236
> > > > http://www.dimagi.com/
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > >  Cidrz mailing list
> > > >  Cidrz at mit.edu
> > > >  http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/cidrz
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Andr?s
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Cidrz mailing list
> > > Cidrz at mit.edu
> > > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/cidrz
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Daniel Myung
> > Senior Engineer
> > Dimagi, Inc | One Kendall Square | Bldg. 400, 4th Floor | Cambridge, MA
> > 02139
> > work: (617) 621 8595 | cell: (617) 645 3236
> >  http://www.dimagi.com/
> > _______________________________________________
> >  Cidrz mailing list
> >  Cidrz at mit.edu
> >  http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/cidrz
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Andr?s
>
> _______________________________________________
> Cidrz mailing list
> Cidrz at mit.edu
> http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/cidrz
>



-- 
Daniel Myung
Senior Engineer
Dimagi, Inc | One Kendall Square | Bldg. 400, 4th Floor | Cambridge, MA
02139
work: (617) 621 8595 | cell: (617) 645 3236
http://www.dimagi.com/
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From andresmh at media.mit.edu  Wed Apr 23 17:05:31 2008
From: andresmh at media.mit.edu (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Andr=E9s_Monroy-Hern=E1ndez?=)
Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 17:05:31 -0400
Subject: [Cidrz] gsm modem
In-Reply-To: <46fb10300804231403n4a90bceeh530a71129062ddf6@mail.gmail.com>
References: <46fb10300804230824q6df34862jda8039bcb19d08a9@mail.gmail.com>
	<d0a8a7530804230922i3d4968ebw4b85dc50388a3dc3@mail.gmail.com>
	<46fb10300804231315m2acbe16eu5272d879e18c3be9@mail.gmail.com>
	<d0a8a7530804231358l78f19234ladf8733f96a5c687@mail.gmail.com>
	<46fb10300804231403n4a90bceeh530a71129062ddf6@mail.gmail.com>
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I'm leaving MIT now...

2008/4/23 Daniel Myung <dmyung at dimagi.com>:
> actually, you around between now and 6:45?  i can swing by on the way to
> kendall
>
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 4:58 PM, Andr?s Monroy-Hern?ndez
> <andresmh at media.mit.edu> wrote:
>
> > I can meet you at the  Media anytime from 12 to 1
> > or in ICT4D class from 1 to 2.30pm
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > 2008/4/23 Daniel Myung <dmyung at dimagi.com>:
> > > hey, sure thing.  what's your schedule tomorrow, can i stop by then?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 12:22 PM, Andr?s Monroy-Hern?ndez
> > > <andresmh at media.mit.edu> wrote:
> > >
> > > > I have it. Want to stop by?
> > > >
> > > > 2008/4/23, Daniel Myung <dmyung at dimagi.com>:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > hey andres,
> > > > >
> > > > > do you have the usb gsm modem on hand?  in testing for the MMS
> stuff,
> > > the
> > > > > software i'm evaluating needs direct gprs access to the network to
> post
> > > the
> > > > > MMS messages.   can i borrow it for a few days while i tinker with
> it?
> > > > >
> > > > > thanks,
> > > > >
> > > > > Dan
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Daniel Myung
> > > > > Senior Engineer
> > > > > Dimagi, Inc | One Kendall Square | Bldg. 400, 4th Floor | Cambridge,
> MA
> > > > > 02139
> > > > > work: (617) 621 8595 | cell: (617) 645 3236
> > > > > http://www.dimagi.com/
> > > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > >  Cidrz mailing list
> > > > >  Cidrz at mit.edu
> > > > >  http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/cidrz
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Andr?s
> > > >
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > Cidrz mailing list
> > > > Cidrz at mit.edu
> > > > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/cidrz
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Daniel Myung
> > > Senior Engineer
> > > Dimagi, Inc | One Kendall Square | Bldg. 400, 4th Floor | Cambridge, MA
> > > 02139
> > > work: (617) 621 8595 | cell: (617) 645 3236
> > >  http://www.dimagi.com/
> > > _______________________________________________
> > >  Cidrz mailing list
> > >  Cidrz at mit.edu
> > >  http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/cidrz
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Andr?s
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Cidrz mailing list
> > Cidrz at mit.edu
> > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/cidrz
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Daniel Myung
> Senior Engineer
> Dimagi, Inc | One Kendall Square | Bldg. 400, 4th Floor | Cambridge, MA
> 02139
> work: (617) 621 8595 | cell: (617) 645 3236
>  http://www.dimagi.com/
> _______________________________________________
>  Cidrz mailing list
>  Cidrz at mit.edu
>  http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/cidrz
>
>



-- 
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From leoanthonyceli at yahoo.com  Fri Apr 25 14:10:47 2008
From: leoanthonyceli at yahoo.com (Leo Anthony Celi)
Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 11:10:47 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Cidrz] Monday Meeting Reminder
Message-ID: <416285.71215.qm@web38005.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Monday
  April 28
  2 PM
  Media Lab
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From gari.clifford at gmail.com  Sat Apr 26 12:19:10 2008
From: gari.clifford at gmail.com (Gari Clifford)
Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2008 12:19:10 -0400
Subject: [Cidrz] Monday Meeting Reminder
In-Reply-To: <416285.71215.qm@web38005.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <416285.71215.qm@web38005.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <7be6ee2f0804260919j41bb53dchb2e6f261d59ca766@mail.gmail.com>

Hi guys,
I have a conflicting meeting so I can't make it.
let me know what happens :)
best
Gari

2008/4/25 Leo Anthony Celi <leoanthonyceli at yahoo.com>:

> Monday
> April 28
> 2 PM
> Media Lab
>
> _______________________________________________
> Cidrz mailing list
> Cidrz at mit.edu
> http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/cidrz
>
>


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Principal Research Scientist,
Massachusetts Institute of Technology,
Instructor in Biomedical Engineering, HST,
(Harvard-MIT Division of Health Sciences & Technology)
Engineering Manager for the L.C.P. at M.I.T.
(Laboratory for Computational Physiology),
Rm E25-505DA, 45 Carleton St., Cambridge MA 02142
Tel: +16172537937 / +448444368530
Fax: +16172587859 email: gari at alum.mit.edu
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From leoanthonyceli at yahoo.com  Sun Apr 27 11:55:48 2008
From: leoanthonyceli at yahoo.com (Leo Anthony Celi)
Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2008 08:55:48 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Cidrz] Multi-Media Message
Message-ID: <127757.95058.qm@web38007.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Hi,
         I just want to make sure the SMS I received to go to a website for an MMS message with a username and password came from CIDRZ.  I presume it is but I want to make sure.
  Cheers,
  Leo
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From andresmh at media.mit.edu  Sun Apr 27 12:21:15 2008
From: andresmh at media.mit.edu (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Andr=E9s_Monroy-Hern=E1ndez?=)
Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2008 12:21:15 -0400
Subject: [Cidrz] Multi-Media Message
In-Reply-To: <127757.95058.qm@web38007.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <127757.95058.qm@web38007.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <d0a8a7530804270921l490f116hf0965f1a614c690c@mail.gmail.com>

I sent you an SMS last time we met but not recently...

2008/4/27, Leo Anthony Celi <leoanthonyceli at yahoo.com>:
> Hi,
>        I just want to make sure the SMS I received to go to a website for an
> MMS message with a username and password came from CIDRZ.  I presume it is
> but I want to make sure.
> Cheers,
> Leo
> _______________________________________________
>  Cidrz mailing list
>  Cidrz at mit.edu
>  http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/cidrz
>
>


-- 
Andr?s



From leoanthonyceli at yahoo.com  Sun Apr 27 12:27:03 2008
From: leoanthonyceli at yahoo.com (Leo Anthony Celi)
Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2008 09:27:03 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Cidrz] Multi-Media Message
In-Reply-To: <d0a8a7530804270921l490f116hf0965f1a614c690c@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <287023.46050.qm@web38005.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Was the SMS from you, Dan?
  It says I received a multi-media message which can be accessed on the net.  A username and password were provided.
  Let me know before I access the message.
  Leo

Andr?s Monroy-Hern?ndez <andresmh at media.mit.edu> wrote:
  I sent you an SMS last time we met but not recently...

2008/4/27, Leo Anthony Celi :
> Hi,
> I just want to make sure the SMS I received to go to a website for an
> MMS message with a username and password came from CIDRZ. I presume it is
> but I want to make sure.
> Cheers,
> Leo
> _______________________________________________
> Cidrz mailing list
> Cidrz at mit.edu
> http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/cidrz
>
>


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From dmyung at dimagi.com  Sun Apr 27 12:31:44 2008
From: dmyung at dimagi.com (Daniel Myung)
Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2008 12:31:44 -0400
Subject: [Cidrz] Multi-Media Message
In-Reply-To: <287023.46050.qm@web38005.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <d0a8a7530804270921l490f116hf0965f1a614c690c@mail.gmail.com>
	<287023.46050.qm@web38005.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <46fb10300804270931m7a1a086au14ddef5d2c17fecf@mail.gmail.com>

wasn't me...we've got a mystery on our hands...

i'm still having trouble finding the drivers for the gprs modem.  the
company website is horrible.

do you have the cd handy, can you email the drivers to me?



2008/4/27 Leo Anthony Celi <leoanthonyceli at yahoo.com>:

> Was the SMS from you, Dan?
> It says I received a multi-media message which can be accessed on the
> net.  A username and password were provided.
> Let me know before I access the message.
> Leo
>
> *Andr?s Monroy-Hern?ndez <andresmh at media.mit.edu>* wrote:
>
> I sent you an SMS last time we met but not recently...
>
> 2008/4/27, Leo Anthony Celi :
> > Hi,
> > I just want to make sure the SMS I received to go to a website for an
> > MMS message with a username and password came from CIDRZ. I presume it
> is
> > but I want to make sure.
> > Cheers,
> > Leo
> > _______________________________________________
> > Cidrz mailing list
> > Cidrz at mit.edu
> > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/cidrz
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> Andr?s
>
> _______________________________________________
> Cidrz mailing list
> Cidrz at mit.edu
> http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/cidrz
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Cidrz mailing list
> Cidrz at mit.edu
> http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/cidrz
>
>


-- 
Daniel Myung
Senior Engineer
Dimagi, Inc | One Kendall Square | Bldg. 400, 4th Floor | Cambridge, MA
02139
work: (617) 621 8595 | cell: (617) 645 3236
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From andresmh at media.mit.edu  Mon Apr 28 14:31:45 2008
From: andresmh at media.mit.edu (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Andr=E9s_Monroy-Hern=E1ndez?=)
Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 14:31:45 -0400
Subject: [Cidrz] meeting today
Message-ID: <d0a8a7530804281131w3b5a0aa4y2c0937aded17ec0e@mail.gmail.com>

hey I was waiting for you inside the lab and apparently you didn't see
me! :-) i met with daniel myung and gave him the cd for gsm modem...
more updates tomorrow

-- 
Andr?s



From dmyung at dimagi.com  Tue Apr 29 11:11:56 2008
From: dmyung at dimagi.com (Daniel Myung)
Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 11:11:56 -0400
Subject: [Cidrz] dr. parham in town
Message-ID: <46fb10300804290811g5859734cj6e942bf1a8458352@mail.gmail.com>

just as a reminder i'll be w/ dr. parham at the stata center to meet y'all
after class.  andres, will we be able to maybe to media lab where it's a bit
quieter to show him what we got?

dan

-- 
Daniel Myung
Senior Engineer
Dimagi, Inc  |  One Kendall Square  |  Bldg. 400, 4th Floor  |  Cambridge,
MA 02139
work: (617) 621 8595  |  cell: (617) 645 3236
http://www.dimagi.com/
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From andresmh at media.mit.edu  Tue Apr 29 11:21:52 2008
From: andresmh at media.mit.edu (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Andr=E9s_Monroy-Hern=E1ndez?=)
Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 11:21:52 -0400
Subject: [Cidrz] dr. parham in town
In-Reply-To: <46fb10300804290811g5859734cj6e942bf1a8458352@mail.gmail.com>
References: <46fb10300804290811g5859734cj6e942bf1a8458352@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <d0a8a7530804290821s79099ebat64a6ada5c321b969@mail.gmail.com>

yep

2008/4/29, Daniel Myung <dmyung at dimagi.com>:
> just as a reminder i'll be w/ dr. parham at the stata center to meet y'all
> after class.  andres, will we be able to maybe to media lab where it's a bit
> quieter to show him what we got?
>
> dan
>
> --
> Daniel Myung
> Senior Engineer
> Dimagi, Inc  |  One Kendall Square  |  Bldg. 400, 4th Floor  |  Cambridge,
> MA 02139
> work: (617) 621 8595  |  cell: (617) 645 3236
> http://www.dimagi.com/
> _______________________________________________
>  Cidrz mailing list
>  Cidrz at mit.edu
>  http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/cidrz
>
>


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Andr?s