[Tango-L] Tango Styles

[Barbara Garvey]

Yes, Traditional Tango is a better description than Villa Urquiza, and 
Sergio's description is apt.

Milonguero style was done at the same time, in the city center, very 
simply, in various styles, with major emphasis on walking and back 
ochos. In 1993 or 94 Susana Miller opened her school to teach it, 
featuring the style of Tete. Milonguero style was subsequently promoted 
as the only real social tango, ignoring Traditional Tango or that done 
in Villa Urquiza and in most neighborhoods of the city.

I find Chicho's "Nuevo Tango" in his first video 'way more tango than  
Fabian's, it's really quite lovely and not only because of  the music. 
Chicho and his partner have a real connection. . Fabian always looks, to 
me, like he and his partner are experimenting in how clever and 
wonderful they can be (and they are!!), but I see no connection. Without 
connection, there is no tango, IMHO, regardless of style or skill. I 
also find that when dancing tango techniques to non-tango music the 
connection is lost. Not because you can't have a connection without 
tango music, but because if you are dancing in a tango way, tango music 
is necessary to complete the connection. For example if you are dancing 
to blues or Frank Sinatra, you can have plenty of connection; but of 
course it isn't tango. I have danced tango movements to Frank Sinatra, 
and although enjoyable, it isn't tango and the connection isn't there. 
Whereas i can dance foxtrot to Frank or slow swing to blues with plenty 
of connection.

Que se yo, soy una vieja verde,
Abrazos,
Barbara in Vallarta

Sergio Vandekier wrote:

>How Villa Urquiza style (Traditional Tango) differentiates itself from the other styles:  (in this video).
> 
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=roNnIkrkfAY
> 
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXU9nojcFQo
> 
>Long Steps, Embrace in "V", use of a varying embrace (elastic embrace) close, with little light to open, profuse use of embellishments, elegant erect posture. Elegant formal dressing.
> 
>Tango walk with a narrow base, the feet brush heels as they pass each other, the foot lands either toe or heel first. Walking on a line with external rotation of the foot.
> 
>1 - Milonguero - Cacho Dante -
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zgWMs0rAcJk
> 
>Shorter steps, embrace more frontal (where the V is less evident), close embrace only, different degree of elegance, Tango walk with a wider base, the feet are right under the hips, the feet do not brush heels as they pass each other, the foot land flat on the sole, walking on two lines, no external rotation of the foot. Less use of embellishments. 
> 
>2 - Milonguero - Susana Miller- Same as #1 except that here the embrace is more in V, and there is more play with the rhythm. Use of ocho cortado.
> 
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8Any40gQTc
> 
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=odl9DBOQsYQ&feature=related
> 
>3 - Nuevo Tango  - 
> 
>Fabian Salas  -  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6inw_V_a1W0&feature=related
> 
>Tendency to use non traditional tango music.
> 
>Very open embrace, colgadas, soltadas, volcadas, piernazos, changes of direction, changes in the embrace, profuse use of heel sacadas. 
> 
> 
> Mariano Chicho Frumboli 
> 
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-5Bxtck3Uw&feature=related
> 
>A very open embrace, profuse use of heel sacadas and changes of direction. Elegance is sacrificed in exchange for an element of "surprise".
> 
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7lro4WfRpzM&feature=related
> 
>Tendency to use non traditional tango music (in this case Argentine flokloric music is used). Some piernazos, some volcada, a very open embrace, some soltadas.
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