<html xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:w="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:m="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/2004/12/omml" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40">
<head>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8">
<meta name="Generator" content="Microsoft Word 15 (filtered medium)">
<style><!--
/* Font Definitions */
@font-face
{font-family:"Cambria Math";
panose-1:2 4 5 3 5 4 6 3 2 4;}
@font-face
{font-family:Calibri;
panose-1:2 15 5 2 2 2 4 3 2 4;}
/* Style Definitions */
p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal
{margin:0in;
margin-bottom:.0001pt;
font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;}
a:link, span.MsoHyperlink
{mso-style-priority:99;
color:blue;
text-decoration:underline;}
a:visited, span.MsoHyperlinkFollowed
{mso-style-priority:99;
color:purple;
text-decoration:underline;}
p.msonormal0, li.msonormal0, div.msonormal0
{mso-style-name:msonormal;
mso-margin-top-alt:auto;
margin-right:0in;
mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:0in;
font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;}
span.EmailStyle18
{mso-style-type:personal;
font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;
color:windowtext;
font-weight:normal;
font-style:normal;
text-decoration:none none;}
span.EmailStyle19
{mso-style-type:personal-reply;
font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;
color:#1F497D;}
.MsoChpDefault
{mso-style-type:export-only;
font-size:10.0pt;}
@page WordSection1
{size:8.5in 11.0in;
margin:1.0in 1.0in 1.0in 1.0in;}
div.WordSection1
{page:WordSection1;}
/* List Definitions */
@list l0
{mso-list-id:1504585571;
mso-list-type:simple;
mso-list-template-ids:67698689;}
@list l0:level1
{mso-level-number-format:bullet;
mso-level-text:;
mso-level-tab-stop:.25in;
mso-level-number-position:left;
margin-left:.25in;
text-indent:-.25in;
font-family:Symbol;}
ol
{margin-bottom:0in;}
ul
{margin-bottom:0in;}
--></style><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml>
<o:shapedefaults v:ext="edit" spidmax="1026" />
</xml><![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml>
<o:shapelayout v:ext="edit">
<o:idmap v:ext="edit" data="1" />
</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]-->
</head>
<body lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple">
<div class="WordSection1">
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Nice to hear from so many of the old ….. (um) established Workflow crew.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Agree with Mike on the locking properties. Since you have dialog steps within subflow, set it to 'Lock behavior for background Workflows'.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Mark, <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">When you say ‘it doesn't create the subflow either’ – does the developer have the ‘advance with dialog’ setting checked on for the step that calls subflow?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Thomas Maue<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<div>
<div style="border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in">
<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> sap-wug-bounces@mit.edu [mailto:sap-wug-bounces@mit.edu]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Morris, Eddie<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, April 04, 2018 10:35 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> SAP Workflow Users' Group <sap-wug@mit.edu><br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: Parallel Subflow inside a Parallel Subflow??<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Hi Mark,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Mike is right. I would open an incident with support and provide any details of your recreation. If you have created a simple example where it can be reproduced then this will speed things up regarding a solution.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">I don’t work in this area anymore but there may be an existing note to solve it. If you open an incident let me know the details directly.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Eddie<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"><a href="mailto:eddie.morris@sap.com">eddie.morris@sap.com</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><a name="_MailEndCompose"><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></a></p>
<div>
<div style="border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in">
<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> <a href="mailto:sap-wug-bounces@mit.edu">sap-wug-bounces@mit.edu</a> [<a href="mailto:sap-wug-bounces@mit.edu">mailto:sap-wug-bounces@mit.edu</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Mike Pokraka<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 04 April 2018 16:07<br>
<b>To:</b> SAP Workflow Users' Group <<a href="mailto:sap-wug@mit.edu">sap-wug@mit.edu</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: Parallel Subflow inside a Parallel Subflow??<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Hi Mark, <o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Florin might be right about the global parallel index, in which case it should be an OSS. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Alternatively could there be a transactional issue? Some portion of the workflow internals that hasn’t committed yet. Try changing the lock behaviour (header > version dependent > locking properties) to LB or one of the
others as this is also related.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">I would also try to reproduce this with two simple WFs with the multi line elements hardcoded, this will also aid when raising the OSS.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Let us know how you get on, I’m also curious...<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Cheers, <o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Mike<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span lang="EN-GB"><br>
On 4 Apr 2018, at 4:17 pm, Florin Wach (SI) <<a href="mailto:florin.wach@systems-integration.net">florin.wach@systems-integration.net</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Hallo Marc,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">parallel subflows within a parallel one ... well, yes, could be that the index ParForEach is mistakenly stored globally in the workflow processor.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">With putting a dummy background step, could possibly be helpful.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">What should work is to use simpler wait steps for the correlating objects. A sub-sub-flow shouldn't have a problem with that.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">That dummy step "step" is normal btw. Don't worry<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Take care<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"> Florin<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span lang="EN-GB"><br>
Am 04.04.2018 um 14:39 schrieb Mark Pyc <<a href="mailto:mark.pyc@gmail.com">mark.pyc@gmail.com</a>>:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
<div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">G'day again,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">After sending the initial mail it occurred to me I could test my theory by directly starting the first level Subflow directly, and as guessed the subsequent parallel subflow step initiates successfully. So I'm guessing
there is a limitation (potentially a bug in release Basis 731 sp 16) that means you can't have a parallel subflow within a parallel subflow. I get that there could be concerns for endless loops spawning recursive subflows but seems a bit rude to not support
it at all. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">In the screen shot below you can see when I started an instance of the subflow WS90100016 that it successfully spawned an instance of WS90100019 in step 1396. No changes to bindings or data, just this time WS90100016
wasn't a subflow. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span lang="EN-GB"><image.png><o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Anyone know if it should ever work or am I just pushing the boundaries of the sane? <o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Have fun,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Mark<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">On 4 April 2018 at 19:06, Mark Pyc <<a href="mailto:mark.pyc@gmail.com" target="_blank">mark.pyc@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">G'day Wuggers,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Wow, been a long time, but scratching my head again so once again come to the fount of all WF knowledge.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">I'm helping another developer who has got to a point of confusion in a parked Logistics Inv. scenario where an Invoice is Held with reference to multiple POs and multiple items within those POs. It is Saved as Held as
there are no Service Entry Sheets. The solution is to send create parallel WFs out per PO to the PO creator/requestor asking them to create Service Entry Sheets (SES) if appropriate. The desire is to have a Wait for Correlated Event that an SES has been created
for each item. You can't seem to create parallel Wait for Correlated Event steps, so have put the Waits inside a Subflow.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">The binding to the Sub-Subflow is based on &PO_ITEMS[&_WF_PARFOREACH_INDEX&]& with the Items table indicated on the Misc tab. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">The system doesn't throw an error, but it doesn't create the subflow either. In the log there is a phantom step with a step type of "STEP" which I can't ever remember seeing before. Note that although there is a Node
number there is no Task Number and no Workitem Number<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"><image.png><o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Is this some weird restriction that you can't have a parallel subflow within a parallel subflow??? <o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">The WF just carries on like that Step doesn't exist, which indeed it doesn't seem to. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">I'm not justifying the design either from a business process or technical build, but I'm at a loss as to what is happening technically when trying to implement this. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Appreciate any sagely input!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Have fun,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span lang="EN-GB">Mark<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
</blockquote>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
</blockquote>
<blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">_______________________________________________<br>
SAP-WUG mailing list<br>
<a href="mailto:SAP-WUG@mit.edu">SAP-WUG@mit.edu</a><br>
<a href="http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/sap-wug">http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/sap-wug</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</blockquote>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">_______________________________________________<br>
SAP-WUG mailing list<br>
<a href="mailto:SAP-WUG@mit.edu">SAP-WUG@mit.edu</a><br>
<a href="http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/sap-wug">http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/sap-wug</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</body>
</html>