<html><head></head><body bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div>Sure, thanks Stephane.</div><div><br>On Mar 24, 2012, at 2:58 AM, stephane <<a href="mailto:s.bailleul@free.fr">s.bailleul@free.fr</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><div></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>
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Baba, <br>
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Have you also check that the substitutes are not in the group of excluded agent ?<br>
<br>
Cheers<br>
Stephane<br>
<br>
Le vendredi 23 mars 2012 à 16:01 -0400, <a href="mailto:sap-wug-request@mit.edu">sap-wug-request@mit.edu</a> a écrit :
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From: "Mike Pokraka" <<a href="mailto:wug@workflowconnections.com">wug@workflowconnections.com</a>>
Subject: RE: SAP Wokflow Substitution
To: "SAP Workflow Users' Group" <<a href="mailto:sap-wug@mit.edu">sap-wug@mit.edu</a>>
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How are you determining the agent? If you have code that looks at
substitution then send it to agent B then agent A won't ever see it. You
need to send it to A in all instances.
On Thu, March 22, 2012 11:03 pm, Baba Jammi wrote:
> Hi Jocelyn,
> ??
> We are creating substitution from the backend using function module
> SAP_WAPI_SUBSTITUTE_MAINTAIN but tasks are processed from UWL. I tried
> unreserving the workitem through backend function module, but no luck.
> ??
> Thanks,
> Baba
>
> --- On Thu, 3/22/12, Dart, Jocelyn <<a href="mailto:jocelyn.dart@sap.com">jocelyn.dart@sap.com</a>> wrote:
>
>
> From: Dart, Jocelyn <<a href="mailto:jocelyn.dart@sap.com">jocelyn.dart@sap.com</a>>
> Subject: RE: SAP Wokflow Substitution
> To: "SAP Workflow Users' Group" <<a href="mailto:sap-wug@mit.edu">sap-wug@mit.edu</a>>
> Date: Thursday, March 22, 2012, 5:29 PM
>
>
> Hi Baba,
> Maybe take a step back and tell us:
> a) Which inbox you are using (SAP Inbox or UWL)
> b) How the substitution is being created
>
> I'm wondering if you have defined the substitution in the usual way.
> With substitution (regardless of whether it's active or passive)?? both
> the original recipient and the substitute can access the work items during
> the substitution.
> The only reason for them being hidden from one or the other is if a work
> item has been reserved by one of them.
> Regards,
> Jocelyn
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: <a href="mailto:sap-wug-bounces@mit.edu">sap-wug-bounces@mit.edu</a> [<a href="mailto:sap-wug-bounces@mit.edu">mailto:sap-wug-bounces@mit.edu</a>] On Behalf
> Of Sheldon Oxenberg
> Sent: Friday, 23 March 2012 5:30 AM
> To: SAP Workflow Users' Group
> Subject: RE: SAP Wokflow Substitution
>
> Please see SAP Note 74000 -
> Q&A: Substitution in Business Workflow
>
> Regards.
>
> SHELDON OXENBERG
> System Architect Principal Leader
> LMP Technical Architect, SAP Workflow
> CSC
>
>
>
> From:??????Baba Jammi <<a href="mailto:jmc_sap@yahoo.com">jmc_sap@yahoo.com</a>>
> To:?? ??????"SAP Workflow Users' Group" <<a href="mailto:sap-wug@mit.edu">sap-wug@mit.edu</a>>
> Date:??????03/22/2012 01:36 PM
> Subject:?? ?? ?? ?? RE: SAP Wokflow Substitution
> Sent by:?? ?? ?? ?? <a href="mailto:sap-wug-bounces@mit.edu">sap-wug-bounces@mit.edu</a>
>
>
>
>
> Yes, even I expected the same. But it's not the case. When I see in the
> log, tasks are only delivered to B, not to
> A.
>
> Thanks,
> Baba
>
> --- On Thu, 3/22/12, Stephens, Monique S L <<a href="mailto:moniques@bcm.edu">moniques@bcm.edu</a>> wrote:
>
> ?? From: Stephens, Monique S L <<a href="mailto:moniques@bcm.edu">moniques@bcm.edu</a>>
> ?? Subject: RE: SAP Wokflow Substitution
> ?? To: "'SAP Workflow Users' Group'" <<a href="mailto:sap-wug@mit.edu">sap-wug@mit.edu</a>>
> ?? Date: Thursday, March 22, 2012, 11:32 AM
>
>
>
> ?? Normally with workflow substitution, the documents will still route to
> A and B can pick them up.?? If you look at
> ?? the documents themselves, can you see whose inbox they are actually in?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ?? Monique Stephens
>
>
>
>
>
> ?? From: <a href="mailto:sap-wug-bounces@mit.edu">sap-wug-bounces@mit.edu</a> [<a href="mailto:sap-wug-bounces@mit.edu">mailto:sap-wug-bounces@mit.edu</a>] On
> Behalf Of Baba Jammi
> ?? Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2012 11:30 AM
> ?? To: SAP Workflow Users' Group
> ?? Subject: RE: SAP Wokflow Substitution
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Thanks Stephen.
>
>
>
>
>
> Its user B substitues for A.
>
>
>
>
>
> So, after date expiration, A should see all the workitems which were
> delivered to B during the substituion period.
> This is not happening.
>
>
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
> Baba
>
>
>
> --- On Thu, 3/22/12, Stephens, Monique S L <<a href="mailto:moniques@bcm.edu">moniques@bcm.edu</a>> wrote:
>
> ?? From: Stephens, Monique S L <<a href="mailto:moniques@bcm.edu">moniques@bcm.edu</a>>
> ?? Subject: RE: SAP Wokflow Substitution
> ?? To: "'SAP Workflow Users' Group'" <<a href="mailto:sap-wug@mit.edu">sap-wug@mit.edu</a>>
> ?? Date: Thursday, March 22, 2012, 8:48 AM
> ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? If user A is the substitute as your first sentence
> implies, then it would not remain in A???s inbox
> ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? after the expiration date.
>
>
>
>
>
> ?? However, your statements below are confusing because first you have A
> as the substitute, then B.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Monique Stephens
>
>
>
>
>
> From: <a href="mailto:sap-wug-bounces@mit.edu">sap-wug-bounces@mit.edu</a> [<a href="mailto:sap-wug-bounces@mit.edu">mailto:sap-wug-bounces@mit.edu</a>] On Behalf
> Of Baba Jammi
> Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2012 8:41 AM
> To: SAP Workflow Users' Group
> Subject: SAP Wokflow Substitution
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Not sure if this is how workflow substition works or I am missing
> something. Please advise.
>
>
>
>
>
> User A substitutes for B for period 03/22 thru 03/25.
>
>
>
>
>
> On 03/23 workflow finds agent A as approver for a task and delivers task
> to agent B as he is substitute.
>
>
>
>
>
> Agent B, takes NO action on the task.
>
>
>
>
>
> On 03/25, workflow substitution exprires.
>
>
>
>
>
> On 03/26, task still appearing in Agent B's inbox whereas I was expecting
> it to appear in agent A's inbox as
> substitution expired.
>
>
>
> Thank you,
> Baba
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2012 13:01:24 -0700 (PDT)
From: Baba Jammi <<a href="mailto:jmc_sap@yahoo.com">jmc_sap@yahoo.com</a>>
Subject: RE: SAP Wokflow Substitution
To: "SAP Workflow Users' Group" <<a href="mailto:sap-wug@mit.edu">sap-wug@mit.edu</a>>
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That was it Mike !!!
?
I found there was code which was determining Agent B and routing workflow to Agent B directly for approval.
?
Thank you ALL and Happy Weekend.
?
Regards,
Baba
?
--- On Fri, 3/23/12, Mike Pokraka <<a href="mailto:wug@workflowconnections.com">wug@workflowconnections.com</a>> wrote:
From: Mike Pokraka <<a href="mailto:wug@workflowconnections.com">wug@workflowconnections.com</a>>
Subject: RE: SAP Wokflow Substitution
To: "SAP Workflow Users' Group" <<a href="mailto:sap-wug@mit.edu">sap-wug@mit.edu</a>>
Date: Friday, March 23, 2012, 11:23 AM
How are you determining the agent? If you have code that looks at
substitution then send it to agent B then agent A won't ever see it. You
need to send it to A in all instances.
On Thu, March 22, 2012 11:03 pm, Baba Jammi wrote:
> Hi Jocelyn,
> ??
> We are creating substitution from the backend using function module
> SAP_WAPI_SUBSTITUTE_MAINTAIN but tasks are processed from UWL. I tried
> unreserving the workitem through backend function module, but no luck.
> ??
> Thanks,
> Baba
>
> --- On Thu, 3/22/12, Dart, Jocelyn <<a href="mailto:jocelyn.dart@sap.com">jocelyn.dart@sap.com</a>> wrote:
>
>
> From: Dart, Jocelyn <<a href="mailto:jocelyn.dart@sap.com">jocelyn.dart@sap.com</a>>
> Subject: RE: SAP Wokflow Substitution
> To: "SAP Workflow Users' Group" <<a href="mailto:sap-wug@mit.edu">sap-wug@mit.edu</a>>
> Date: Thursday, March 22, 2012, 5:29 PM
>
>
> Hi Baba,
> Maybe take a step back and tell us:
> a) Which inbox you are using (SAP Inbox or UWL)
> b) How the substitution is being created
>
> I'm wondering if you have defined the substitution in the usual way.
> With substitution (regardless of whether it's active or passive)?? both
> the original recipient and the substitute can access the work items during
> the substitution.
> The only reason for them being hidden from one or the other is if a work
> item has been reserved by one of them.
> Regards,
> Jocelyn
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: <a href="mailto:sap-wug-bounces@mit.edu">sap-wug-bounces@mit.edu</a> [<a href="mailto:sap-wug-bounces@mit.edu">mailto:sap-wug-bounces@mit.edu</a>] On Behalf
> Of Sheldon Oxenberg
> Sent: Friday, 23 March 2012 5:30 AM
> To: SAP Workflow Users' Group
> Subject: RE: SAP Wokflow Substitution
>
> Please see SAP Note 74000 -
> Q&A: Substitution in Business Workflow
>
> Regards.
>
> SHELDON OXENBERG
> System Architect Principal Leader
> LMP Technical Architect, SAP Workflow
> CSC
>
>
>
> From:??????Baba Jammi <<a href="mailto:jmc_sap@yahoo.com">jmc_sap@yahoo.com</a>>
> To:?? ??????"SAP Workflow Users' Group" <<a href="mailto:sap-wug@mit.edu">sap-wug@mit.edu</a>>
> Date:??????03/22/2012 01:36 PM
> Subject:?? ?? ?? ?? RE: SAP Wokflow Substitution
> Sent by:?? ?? ?? ?? <a href="mailto:sap-wug-bounces@mit.edu">sap-wug-bounces@mit.edu</a>
>
>
>
>
> Yes, even I expected the same. But it's not the case. When I see in the
> log, tasks are only delivered to B, not to
> A.
>
> Thanks,
> Baba
>
> --- On Thu, 3/22/12, Stephens, Monique S L <<a href="mailto:moniques@bcm.edu">moniques@bcm.edu</a>> wrote:
>
> ?? From: Stephens, Monique S L <<a href="mailto:moniques@bcm.edu">moniques@bcm.edu</a>>
> ?? Subject: RE: SAP Wokflow Substitution
> ?? To: "'SAP Workflow Users' Group'" <<a href="mailto:sap-wug@mit.edu">sap-wug@mit.edu</a>>
> ?? Date: Thursday, March 22, 2012, 11:32 AM
>
>
>
> ?? Normally with workflow substitution, the documents will still route to
> A and B can pick them up.?? If you look at
> ?? the documents themselves, can you see whose inbox they are actually in?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ?? Monique Stephens
>
>
>
>
>
> ?? From: <a href="mailto:sap-wug-bounces@mit.edu">sap-wug-bounces@mit.edu</a> [<a href="mailto:sap-wug-bounces@mit.edu">mailto:sap-wug-bounces@mit.edu</a>] On
> Behalf Of Baba Jammi
> ?? Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2012 11:30 AM
> ?? To: SAP Workflow Users' Group
> ?? Subject: RE: SAP Wokflow Substitution
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Thanks Stephen.
>
>
>
>
>
> Its user B substitues for A.
>
>
>
>
>
> So, after date expiration, A should see all the workitems which were
> delivered to B during the substituion period.
> This is not happening.
>
>
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
> Baba
>
>
>
> --- On Thu, 3/22/12, Stephens, Monique S L <<a href="mailto:moniques@bcm.edu">moniques@bcm.edu</a>> wrote:
>
> ?? From: Stephens, Monique S L <<a href="mailto:moniques@bcm.edu">moniques@bcm.edu</a>>
> ?? Subject: RE: SAP Wokflow Substitution
> ?? To: "'SAP Workflow Users' Group'" <<a href="mailto:sap-wug@mit.edu">sap-wug@mit.edu</a>>
> ?? Date: Thursday, March 22, 2012, 8:48 AM
> ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? If user A is the substitute as your first sentence
> implies, then it would not remain in A???s inbox
> ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? after the expiration date.
>
>
>
>
>
> ?? However, your statements below are confusing because first you have A
> as the substitute, then B.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Monique Stephens
>
>
>
>
>
> From: <a href="mailto:sap-wug-bounces@mit.edu">sap-wug-bounces@mit.edu</a> [<a href="mailto:sap-wug-bounces@mit.edu">mailto:sap-wug-bounces@mit.edu</a>] On Behalf
> Of Baba Jammi
> Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2012 8:41 AM
> To: SAP Workflow Users' Group
> Subject: SAP Wokflow Substitution
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Not sure if this is how workflow substition works or I am missing
> something. Please advise.
>
>
>
>
>
> User A substitutes for B for period 03/22 thru 03/25.
>
>
>
>
>
> On 03/23 workflow finds agent A as approver for a task and delivers task
> to agent B as he is substitute.
>
>
>
>
>
> Agent B, takes NO action on the task.
>
>
>
>
>
> On 03/25, workflow substitution exprires.
>
>
>
>
>
> On 03/26, task still appearing in Agent B's inbox whereas I was expecting
> it to appear in agent A's inbox as
> substitution expired.
>
>
>
> Thank you,
> Baba
>
>
>
>
>
>
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