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Glad it worked out.<br><br><hr id="stopSpelling">Subject: RE: Evaluation path for Inbox (SBWP)...<br>Date: Mon, 9 May 2011 13:42:25 +0200<br>From: Michael.Klika@ids-scheer.com<br>To: sap-wug@mit.edu<br><br>
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</style><div class="ecxWordSection1"><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:'Calibri','sans-serif';color:#1F497D" lang="EN-US">Thanks to Ed an Jocelyn, </span></p><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:'Calibri','sans-serif';color:#1F497D" lang="EN-US"> </span></p><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:'Calibri','sans-serif';color:#1F497D" lang="EN-US">Yes, that solved my Problem and I’m aware of the performance implications </span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:#1F497D" lang="EN-US">L</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:'Calibri','sans-serif';color:#1F497D" lang="EN-US"> I will test this with some 10k WI and keep you informed, if you like.</span></p><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:'Calibri','sans-serif';color:#1F497D" lang="EN-US"> </span></p><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:'Calibri','sans-serif';color:#1F497D" lang="EN-US">And I do agree that a proper role is the better solution, but that would mean changing existing workflows because some get their agents upfront from the calling application and we wanted to change agent determination based on that…</span></p><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:'Calibri','sans-serif';color:#1F497D" lang="EN-US"> </span></p><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:'Calibri','sans-serif';color:#1F497D" lang="EN-US">Thank you very much again!</span></p><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:'Calibri','sans-serif';color:#1F497D" lang="EN-US">Michael</span></p><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:'Calibri','sans-serif';color:#1F497D" lang="EN-US"> </span></p><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm"><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:'Tahoma','sans-serif'">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:'Tahoma','sans-serif'"> sap-wug-bounces@mit.edu [mailto:sap-wug-bounces@mit.edu] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Edward Diehl<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, April 08, 2011 2:43 PM<br><b>To:</b> sap-wug@mit.edu<br><b>Subject:</b> RE: Evaluation path for Inbox (SBWP)...</span></p></div></div><p class="ecxMsoNormal"> </p><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:'Tahoma','sans-serif'">Jocelyn makes an excellent point and I think there is a better way to do what you want to do.<br><br>Instead of using the Org Unit as the runtime agent rule, create your own rule (PFAC) based on your own eval path (OOAW). The rule will be of type F - Agent determination: function to be executed. The function you will specify is SWX_GET_STRUCTURE. When you enter this FM, a field will appear for your eval path. One tricky thing about this is how you specify the container element to be passed to the rule: You MUST call your element OBJECT, no matter how you data type it. Mine is WFSYST-AGENT. You can give in any description you want, but the Expression must say OBJECT.<br><br>When you test the rule in PFAC the input value will be one of your org units with a preceding OTYPE, such as O 40001221. You will then see all of the object types you have defined in your eval path.<br><br>Here is one of the custom paths I created.<br><br><br>10 O B 002 Is line supervisor of * O SKIP<br>20 O B 003 Incorporates * S SKIP<br>30 S A 008 Holder * P SKIP<br>40 P B 208 Is identical to * US<br><br>NOTE: SKIP means that I only want to see the US (user id) elements.<br><br>This one would return a list of user ids based on all of the of the persons in all of the positions in all of the org units under 40001221.<br><br>This is more work, but it is an excellent technique to learn - quite handy when your workflowing in a system with a good org structure.<br><br>Good Luck,<br>Ed</span></p><div class="ecxMsoNormal" style="text-align:center" align="center"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:'Tahoma','sans-serif'"><hr id="ecxstopSpelling" size="2" width="100%" align="center"></span></div><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:'Tahoma','sans-serif'">From: jocelyn.dart@sap.com<br>To: sap-wug@mit.edu<br>Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2011 04:02:00 +0200<br>Subject: RE: Evaluation path for Inbox (SBWP)...</span></p><div><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:'Calibri','sans-serif';color:#1F497D">HI Michael, </span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:'Tahoma','sans-serif'"></span></p><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:'Calibri','sans-serif';color:#1F497D">Ed’s correct - but just be careful to watch for performance implications and unintended side effects – as changing the evaluation path SAP_TAGT will affect EVERY workflow/work item. </span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:'Tahoma','sans-serif'"></span></p><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:'Calibri','sans-serif';color:#1F497D">Might be worth asking the group if anyone else has tried this before… and what their experiences were. </span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:'Tahoma','sans-serif'"></span></p><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:'Calibri','sans-serif';color:#1F497D">Regards</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:'Tahoma','sans-serif'"></span></p><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:'Calibri','sans-serif';color:#1F497D">Jocelyn</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:'Tahoma','sans-serif'"></span></p><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:'Calibri','sans-serif';color:#1F497D"> </span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:'Tahoma','sans-serif'"></span></p><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm;border-color:-moz-use-text-color -moz-use-text-color"><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:'Tahoma','sans-serif'" lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:'Tahoma','sans-serif'" lang="EN-US"> sap-wug-bounces@mit.edu [mailto:sap-wug-bounces@mit.edu] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Edward Diehl<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, 8 April 2011 12:31 AM<br><b>To:</b> sap-wug@mit.edu<br><b>Subject:</b> RE: Evaluation path for Inbox (SBWP)...</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:'Tahoma','sans-serif'"></span></p></div></div><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:'Tahoma','sans-serif'"> </span></p><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:'Tahoma','sans-serif'">Hi Michael,<br>We've just been through something like this with regard to including substitutes (A210) in the eval path. The eval path you want is SAP_TAGT. In order to include lower level org units and their position you need to insert a line just before line 100: 90 O B 002 * O. This will get you all of the lower org units and their positions.<br><br>Best wishes,<br>Ed</span></p><div class="ecxMsoNormal" style="text-align:center" align="center"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:'Tahoma','sans-serif'"><hr size="2" width="100%" align="center"></span></div><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:'Tahoma','sans-serif'">Subject: RE: Evaluation path for Inbox (SBWP)...<br>Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2011 15:58:56 +0200<br>From: Michael.Klika@ids-scheer.com<br>To: sap-wug@mit.edu</span></p><div><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:'Calibri','sans-serif';color:#1F497D">Hi Nat</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:'Tahoma','sans-serif'"></span></p><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:'Calibri','sans-serif';color:#1F497D"> </span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:'Tahoma','sans-serif'"></span></p><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:'Calibri','sans-serif';color:#1F497D" lang="EN-US">Thank you very much for your reply. </span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:'Tahoma','sans-serif'"></span></p><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:'Calibri','sans-serif';color:#1F497D" lang="EN-US"> </span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:'Tahoma','sans-serif'"></span></p><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:'Calibri','sans-serif';color:#1F497D" lang="EN-US">I think (no, I’m sure) my question wasn’t understandable:</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:'Tahoma','sans-serif'"></span></p><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:'Calibri','sans-serif';color:#1F497D" lang="EN-US"> </span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:'Tahoma','sans-serif'"></span></p><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:'Calibri','sans-serif';color:#1F497D" lang="EN-US">The Inbox as well as several other tools (e.g. “display agents in workflow log”, standard transactions) derive users for a given workitem. My scenario is as follows:</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:'Tahoma','sans-serif'"></span></p><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:'Calibri','sans-serif';color:#1F497D" lang="EN-US"> </span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:'Tahoma','sans-serif'"></span></p><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="text-indent:-18.0pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:'Calibri','sans-serif';color:#1F497D" lang="EN-US">-</span><span style="font-size:7.0pt;font-family:'Tahoma','sans-serif';color:#1F497D" lang="EN-US"> </span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:'Calibri','sans-serif';color:#1F497D" lang="EN-US">I’ve got a hierarchy of Orgunits</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:'Tahoma','sans-serif'"></span></p><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="text-indent:-18.0pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:'Calibri','sans-serif';color:#1F497D" lang="EN-US">-</span><span style="font-size:7.0pt;font-family:'Tahoma','sans-serif';color:#1F497D" lang="EN-US"> </span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:'Calibri','sans-serif';color:#1F497D" lang="EN-US">User is connected via User – Personnel Number – Position – Orgunit</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:'Tahoma','sans-serif'"></span></p><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="text-indent:-18.0pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:'Calibri','sans-serif';color:#1F497D" lang="EN-US">-</span><span style="font-size:7.0pt;font-family:'Tahoma','sans-serif';color:#1F497D" lang="EN-US"> </span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:'Calibri','sans-serif';color:#1F497D" lang="EN-US">My rule for a certain task produces a top orgunit</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:'Tahoma','sans-serif'"></span></p><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="text-indent:-18.0pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:'Calibri','sans-serif';color:#1F497D" lang="EN-US">-</span><span style="font-size:7.0pt;font-family:'Tahoma','sans-serif';color:#1F497D" lang="EN-US"> </span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:'Calibri','sans-serif';color:#1F497D" lang="EN-US">Only those users belonging to the top-orgunit will receive that workitem, NOT the users belonging to orgunits underneath </span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:'Tahoma','sans-serif'"></span></p><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:'Calibri','sans-serif';color:#1F497D" lang="EN-US"> </span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:'Tahoma','sans-serif'"></span></p><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:'Calibri','sans-serif';color:#1F497D" lang="EN-US">Is it possible to change this behavior? Is there a standard evaluation path that handles that an could be modified?</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:'Tahoma','sans-serif'"></span></p><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:'Calibri','sans-serif';color:#1F497D" lang="EN-US"> </span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:'Tahoma','sans-serif'"></span></p><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:'Calibri','sans-serif';color:#1F497D" lang="EN-US">Thanks again and best regards, </span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:'Tahoma','sans-serif'"></span></p><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:'Calibri','sans-serif';color:#1F497D" lang="EN-US">Michael</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:'Tahoma','sans-serif'"></span></p><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:'Calibri','sans-serif';color:#1F497D" lang="EN-US"> </span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:'Tahoma','sans-serif'"></span></p><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:'Calibri','sans-serif';color:#1F497D" lang="EN-US"> </span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:'Tahoma','sans-serif'"></span></p><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:'Calibri','sans-serif';color:#1F497D" lang="EN-US"> </span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:'Tahoma','sans-serif'"></span></p><div style="border:none;border-top:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm;border-color:-moz-use-text-color"><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:'Tahoma','sans-serif'">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:'Tahoma','sans-serif'"> sap-wug-bounces@mit.edu [mailto:sap-wug-bounces@mit.edu] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Nat 4 Govender<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, April 07, 2011 3:13 PM<br><b>To:</b> SAP Workflow Users' Group<br><b>Cc:</b> sap-wug@mit.edu; sap-wug-bounces@mit.edu<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: Evaluation path for Inbox (SBWP)...</span></p></div><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:'Tahoma','sans-serif'"> </span></p><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:'Tahoma','sans-serif'"><br></span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:'Arial','sans-serif'">There are two transaction that I know of that can use </span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:'Tahoma','sans-serif'"><br></span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:'Arial','sans-serif'">1 SWI5 - which will show you all work items for that specific User / Position.</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:'Tahoma','sans-serif'"> <br></span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:'Arial','sans-serif'">2 SWI2_ADM1 - Work item without agents</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:'Tahoma','sans-serif'"> <br></span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:'Arial','sans-serif'"><br></span><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:'Tahoma','sans-serif';color:#424282"><br>Regards</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:'Tahoma','sans-serif'"><br>Nat Govender<br>Toyota South Africa<br>IT - SAP Workflow Specialist<br>Internal Ext. : 32645<br>Direct Line : +27 031 910 2645<br>Fax : 086 607 0414<br>E-mail : <a href="mailto:ngovender4@toyota.co.za">ngovender4@toyota.co.za</a><br><span style="color:fuchsia"><br>If you tell the truth, you don't have to remember anything. </span></span></p><table class="ecxMsoNormalTable" style="width:100.0%" width="100%" border="0" cellpadding="0"><tbody><tr><td style="width:40.0%;padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt" valign="top" width="40%"><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:'Arial','sans-serif'">"Klika, Michael" <Michael.Klika@ids-scheer.com></span></b><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:'Arial','sans-serif'"> </span><br><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:'Arial','sans-serif'">Sent by: sap-wug-bounces@mit.edu</span> </p><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:'Arial','sans-serif'">2011/04/07 02:56 PM</span> </p><table class="ecxMsoNormalTable" border="1" cellpadding="0"><tbody><tr><td style="background:white;padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt;background-attachment:scroll;background-position-x:0%;background-position-y:0%" valign="top"><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="text-align:center" align="center"><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:'Arial','sans-serif'">Please respond to<br>"SAP Workflow Users' Group" <sap-wug@mit.edu></span></p></td></tr></tbody></table></td><td style="width:59.0%;padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt" valign="top" width="59%"><table class="ecxMsoNormalTable" style="width:100.0%" width="100%" border="0" cellpadding="0"><tbody><tr><td style="padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt" valign="top"><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="text-align:right" align="right"><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:'Arial','sans-serif'">To</span></p></td><td style="padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt" valign="top"><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:'Arial','sans-serif'"><sap-wug@mit.edu></span> </p></td></tr><tr><td style="padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt" valign="top"><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="text-align:right" align="right"><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:'Arial','sans-serif'">cc</span></p></td><td style="padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt" valign="top"><br></td></tr><tr><td style="padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt" valign="top"><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="text-align:right" align="right"><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:'Arial','sans-serif'">Subject</span></p></td><td style="padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt" valign="top"><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:'Arial','sans-serif'">Evaluation path for Inbox (SBWP)...</span></p></td></tr></tbody></table><p class="ecxMsoNormal"> </p><table class="ecxMsoNormalTable" border="0" cellpadding="0"><tbody><tr><td style="padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt" valign="top"><br></td><td style="padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt" valign="top"><br></td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:'Tahoma','sans-serif'"><br><br><br></span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:'Calibri','sans-serif'">Hello workflow experts</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:'Tahoma','sans-serif'"> <br></span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:'Calibri','sans-serif'"> </span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:'Tahoma','sans-serif'"> <br></span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:'Calibri','sans-serif'">I’m wondering what evaluation path exactly is used to determine for which workitems I am an agent if I’m part of an orgstructure hierarchy with orgunits, positions, personnel numbers and users. The rule I use determines orgunits only!</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:'Tahoma','sans-serif'"> <br></span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:'Calibri','sans-serif'"> </span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:'Tahoma','sans-serif'"> <br></span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:'Calibri','sans-serif'">Or is there a different mechanism used? If I check table SWWORGTASK (storing orgobjects for a particular workitem) I can see orgunits and no evaluated users, so something must happen in between… </span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:'Tahoma','sans-serif'"><br></span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:'Calibri','sans-serif'"> </span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:'Tahoma','sans-serif'"> <br></span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:'Calibri','sans-serif'">Is there any way to change the evaluation (even if this obviously doesn’t make too much sense…)</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:'Tahoma','sans-serif'"> <br></span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:'Calibri','sans-serif'"> </span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:'Tahoma','sans-serif'"> <br></span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:'Calibri','sans-serif'">Thanks in advance, </span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:'Tahoma','sans-serif'"><br></span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:'Calibri','sans-serif'">Michael</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:'Tahoma','sans-serif'"> <br></span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:'Calibri','sans-serif'"> </span><tt><span style="font-size:10.0pt">_______________________________________________</span></tt><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:'Courier New'"><br><tt>SAP-WUG mailing list</tt><br><tt>SAP-WUG@mit.edu</tt><br><tt>http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/sap-wug</tt><br></span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:'Tahoma','sans-serif'"><br></span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:'Courier New'"><br>***** This e-mail is a privileged and private communication and may be read, copied and used only by the intended recipient(s). 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