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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-GB link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Regarding the OO classes in general (without wf) which already exist, it’s damn hard to find a useful one for a task at hand. They should do a better documentation job like e.g. microsofts foundation classes.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><br>Best regards<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>K.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 4.0pt'><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> sap-wug-bounces@mit.edu [mailto:sap-wug-bounces@mit.edu] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Sample, Rick<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, February 24, 2011 8:43 PM<br><b>To:</b> SAP Workflow Users' Group<br><b>Subject:</b> RE: ABAP Objects - Percent of WF'ers using ABAP OO? ( zip zilch nada ZERO people using ABAP OO with WF? )<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Judy,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Cool! But no need to hesitate. I don't. (to the annoyance of some… I am sure) I know how to use the delete key, so if something I don't like, I just delete it. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Feedback helps SAP with product improvement. We should hope so anyway. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>What I am really miffed at is no BOR equivalents in ABAP OO so everyone and their brother doesn't have their own version of Display and spinning off a million instances of zCL_myClass. And no answer if/when we will have it. (Disclosure clauses get in the way I am sure) I don't know if it was because of the push for NetWeaver, BPM, <?> and I don't care. I want <something> ported. Some basic framework should already exist. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Sorry, Rick's Rants. Just my opinions…<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>---------------------------------------------------------------------------<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Gretchen,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>I use in a couple places and works exactly how I would expect. I don't 'see' any issues with these yet. I have been told that using the BEFORE/AFTER Methods in the Task tab caused a lot of overhead, but that never caused me issues. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Respectfully,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Richard - The Lion Hearted (or court jester, depends on how my day is going) </span><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>"</span></b><em><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>WHY SO SERIOUS</span></b></em><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>?<span style='color:black'>"</span></span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 4.0pt'><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> sap-wug-bounces@mit.edu [mailto:sap-wug-bounces@mit.edu] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Alfano, Judy (ISO)<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, February 24, 2011 11:04 AM<br><b>To:</b> SAP Workflow Users' Group<br><b>Subject:</b> RE: ABAP Objects - Percent of WF'ers using ABAP OO? ( zip zilch nada ZERO people using ABAP OO with WF? )<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue'>I hesitated to respond because though I am using ABAP OO with Workflow, I'm no expert so I'm sure I'm not using it to it's full advantage. But it's been great! Like Gretchen I now use ABAP OO for new development and changes, but we still have a lot of BOR in place. </span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue'>Judy Alfano </span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue'>MassMutual Financial Group</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue'>Springfield, MA</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span lang=EN-US><hr size=3 width="100%" align=center></span></div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>Whatever happened to having fun... <o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> sap-wug-bounces@mit.edu [mailto:sap-wug-bounces@mit.edu] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Gretchen Roberts<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, February 24, 2011 11:46 AM<br><b>To:</b> SAP Workflow Users' Group<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: ABAP Objects - Percent of WF'ers using ABAP OO? ( zip zilch nada ZERO people using ABAP OO with WF? )</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>I use the OO exits! They are great! There is also a ton of stuff you can accomplish in the binding when you call OO methods to populate container values. So many background tasks can be avoided!<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>For new requests I almost always create classes instead of using BOR objects. I do experience a small amount of guilt when I re-invent the wheel--but it is a much better wheel. Mostly my workflows are a combination of both--many tasks calling old BOR methods and many calling OO methods. Too time consuming to go back and rewrite <em><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>everything </span></em>but when I need to do generic work I will always use my new generic OO methods.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Gretchen Roberts<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Working in Houston, TX<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>CP Chem<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><hr size=1 width="100%" align=center></span></div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> "Sample, Rick" <Rick.Sample@graybar.com><br><b>To:</b> SAP Workflow Users' Group <sap-wug@mit.edu><br><b>Sent:</b> Thu, February 24, 2011 10:15:39 AM<br><b>Subject:</b> RE: ABAP Objects - Percent of WF'ers using ABAP OO? ( zip zilch nada ZERO people using ABAP OO with WF? )<br></span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><br>Hey Wug'ers<br><br>Honestly, I really expected a few more results on WF folks using ABAP OO. I see so much potential for adding it to the skill sets. Even if you don't use full ABAP Objects, just using a simple Program Exit class ( in a very simple class even ) has been useful for me. Program Exits, you can catch internal Task events. Like, if someone Logically Deletes a WF, without it, it is just done. With something like zcl_CompleteProcess hung off the template, will still execute the code. Very useful for me. <br><br>Humph! Interesting. <br><br>Buehler... Buehler... anyone see Ferris Buehler? <br><br>Rick</span><span lang=EN-US style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></body></html>