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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Judy,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Cool!
But no need to hesitate. I don't. (to the annoyance of some… I am sure) I
know how to use the delete key, so if something I don't like, I just delete it.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Feedback
helps SAP with product improvement. We should hope so anyway. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>What
I am really miffed at is no BOR equivalents in ABAP OO so everyone and their
brother doesn't have their own version of Display and spinning off a million
instances of zCL_myClass. And no answer if/when we will have it. (Disclosure
clauses get in the way I am sure) I don't know if it was because of the push
for NetWeaver, BPM, <?> and I don't care. I want <something>
ported. Some basic framework should already exist. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Sorry,
Rick's Rants. Just my opinions…<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>---------------------------------------------------------------------------<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Gretchen,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>I
use in a couple places and works exactly how I would expect. I don't 'see' any
issues with these yet. I have been told that using the BEFORE/AFTER Methods in
the Task tab caused a lot of overhead, but that never caused me issues. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Respectfully,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Richard
- The Lion Hearted (or court jester, depends on how my day is going) </span><b><span
style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>"</span></b><em><b><span
style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>WHY SO SERIOUS</span></b></em><b><span
style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>?<span
style='color:black'>"</span></span></b><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>
sap-wug-bounces@mit.edu [mailto:sap-wug-bounces@mit.edu] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Alfano,
Judy (ISO)<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, February 24, 2011 11:04 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> SAP Workflow Users' Group<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: ABAP Objects - Percent of WF'ers using ABAP OO? ( zip zilch
nada ZERO people using ABAP OO with WF? )<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:blue'>I hesitated to respond because though I am using ABAP OO with Workflow,
I'm no expert so I'm sure I'm not using it to it's full advantage. But
it's been great! Like Gretchen I now use ABAP OO for new development and
changes, but we still have a lot of BOR in place. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:blue'>Judy Alfano </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:blue'>MassMutual Financial Group</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:blue'>Springfield, MA</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:black'>Whatever happened to having fun... <o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> sap-wug-bounces@mit.edu
[mailto:sap-wug-bounces@mit.edu] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Gretchen Roberts<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, February 24, 2011 11:46 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> SAP Workflow Users' Group<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: ABAP Objects - Percent of WF'ers using ABAP OO? ( zip zilch
nada ZERO people using ABAP OO with WF? )</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>I
use the OO exits! They are great! There is also a ton of stuff you
can accomplish in the binding when you call OO methods to populate container
values. So many background tasks can be avoided!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>For
new requests I almost always create classes instead of using BOR
objects. I do experience a small amount of guilt when I
re-invent the wheel--but it is a much better wheel. Mostly my
workflows are a combination of both--many tasks calling old BOR methods and
many calling OO methods. Too time consuming to go back and rewrite <em><span
style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>everything </span></em>but when I need
to do generic work I will always use my new generic OO methods.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Gretchen
Roberts<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Working
in Houston, TX<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>CP
Chem<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> "Sample,
Rick" <Rick.Sample@graybar.com><br>
<b>To:</b> SAP Workflow Users' Group <sap-wug@mit.edu><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thu, February 24, 2011 10:15:39 AM<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: ABAP Objects - Percent of WF'ers using ABAP OO? ( zip zilch
nada ZERO people using ABAP OO with WF? )<br>
</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><br>
Hey Wug'ers<br>
<br>
Honestly, I really expected a few more results on WF folks using ABAP OO. I see
so much potential for adding it to the skill sets. Even if you don't use full
ABAP Objects, just using a simple Program Exit class ( in a very simple class
even ) has been useful for me. Program Exits, you can catch internal Task
events. Like, if someone Logically Deletes a WF, without it, it is just done.
With something like zcl_CompleteProcess hung off the template, will still
execute the code. Very useful for me. <br>
<br>
Humph! Interesting. <br>
<br>
Buehler... Buehler... anyone see Ferris Buehler? <br>
<br>
Rick</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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