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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">It is very practical to assign
users/holders to positions within Organizational Management (on a QAss/Prod system),
independent the settings in SCC4. </span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">Up to now it seems to be possible by
coincidence. Now SAP has to provide us with a proper correction/solution …
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold">From:</span></font></b><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma">
<a href="mailto:sap-wug-bounces@mit.edu">sap-wug-bounces@mit.edu</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:sap-wug-bounces@mit.edu">sap-wug-bounces@mit.edu</a>] <b><span style="font-weight:bold">On Behalf Of </span></b>Robert van den Berg <br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> woensdag 10 november 2010
12:27<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> SAP
Workflow Users' Group; SAP Workflow
Users' Group<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b> Re: Re: Re: Setting to
save changes to org. model PPOME??</span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><font size="2" face="Verdana"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana">Hmm... with our new support
packages, the changes are not saved anymore. So perhaps SAP has closed this
option?</span></font></p>
<p><font size="2" face="Verdana"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana">On
Nov 9, 2010 15:39 "Wilbert Mulleners" <a href="mailto:w.mulleners@pyramid.nl"><w.mulleners@pyramid.nl></a> wrote:</span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Verdana"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Verdana"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Verdana">The named setting in OOTR is a one-time change which you
have to transport. </span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Verdana"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Verdana">When importing any subsequent transports with changes to
Organizational Management, the assignment of users/holders to positions are
skipped, that is, existing assignments of these kind are not overwritten. </span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Verdana"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Verdana">You do not need to make a change to the settings in SCC4,
that would not be appreciated at all. </span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Verdana"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Verdana">Unlike the message you are not allowed to, changes are
saved! The setting in OOTR is of no relevance here. </span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Verdana"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Verdana">Regards, </span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Verdana"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Verdana">Wilbert Mulleners</span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Verdana"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Verdana">2010/11/9 Robert van den Berg <<a href="mailto:wug@bergtop-ict.nl">wug@bergtop-ict.nl</a>></span></font></p>
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<p><font size="2" face="Verdana"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana">Wilbert,</span></font></p>
<p><font size="2" face="Verdana"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana"> </span></font></p>
<p><font size="2" face="Verdana"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana">thanx
for the info! Very usefull!</span></font></p>
<p><font size="2" face="Verdana"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana"> </span></font></p>
<p><font size="2" face="Verdana"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana">1
question: we have the setting in OOCR with a space. We don't have the entry in
OOTR. Does this make it possible to save the assignment of users to positions
or do I have to change a setting in SCC4?</span></font></p>
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<p><font size="2" face="Verdana"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana">Kind
regards,</span></font></p>
<p style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><font size="2" face="Verdana"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana">Robert</span></font></p>
<p><font size="2" face="Verdana"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana">On
Nov 9, 2010 11:36 "Wilbert Mulleners" <a href="mailto:w.mulleners@pyramid.nl" target="_blank"><w.mulleners@pyramid.nl></a>
wrote:</span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Verdana"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Verdana">What we usually want to achieve and do implement is: </span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Verdana"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Verdana">- maintain structure (organizational units, positions,
...) on Devl system and transport to QAss/Prod system </span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Verdana"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Verdana">- assign users/holders to positions on each system/client
since not all the users are created throughout the system landscape plus we do
not want to overwrite these assignments by transport requests </span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Verdana"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Verdana">How to configure this: </span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Verdana"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Verdana">- Transaction <strong><b><font face="Verdana"><span style="font-family:Verdana">OOCR </span></font></b></strong>(PD Transport
Connection) <br>
TRSP CORR should be set to space (= Automatic Transport) <br>
so all changes have to be included in a request </span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Verdana"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Verdana">- Transaction <strong><b><font face="Verdana"><span style="font-family:Verdana">OOTR</span></font></b></strong> (Transport Lock for
Infotypes/Subtypes) </span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Verdana"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Verdana">Include an entry for Object type S (Position) Infotype
1001 (Relations) Subtype A008 (Holder) <br>
so assignments of users/holders are skipped when the request is imported on a
QA/Prod system </span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Verdana"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Verdana">When you assign users on a non-customizing client,
indeed you get a message that changes are not allowed. This is not
consistent to the settings but the assignments are saved (and they should). </span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Verdana"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Verdana">Regards, </span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><font size="2" face="Verdana"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana">Wilbert Mulleners</span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Verdana"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Verdana">2010/11/9 Gavin Mooney <<a href="mailto:gavinmooney@gmail.com" target="_blank">gavinmooney@gmail.com</a>></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Verdana"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Verdana">Hi Robert - I always thought that what you described was a
'feature' that SAP let us get away with and not enabled by any configuration
setting. I'd be interested to hear of this has been tightened up now. </span></font></p>
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font-family:Verdana">Gavin</span></font></p>
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Sent from my iPhone</span></font></p>
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On 09/11/2010, at 19:59, "Robert van den Berg " <<a href="mailto:wug@bergtop-ict.nl" target="_blank">wug@bergtop-ict.nl</a>>
wrote:</span></font></p>
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<p><font size="2" face="Verdana"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana">Hi
all,</span></font></p>
<p><font size="2" face="Verdana"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana"> </span></font></p>
<p><font size="2" face="Verdana"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana">a
very basic question perhaps but I can't find it....</span></font></p>
<p><font size="2" face="Verdana"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana"> </span></font></p>
<p><font size="2" face="Verdana"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana">When
we want to change something in de organizational model (using transaction
PPOME) on a productive system, we get a message that no change is allowed. But
when we change something and save it, the change is still saved. Works strange
but fine.</span></font></p>
<p><font size="2" face="Verdana"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana"> </span></font></p>
<p><font size="2" face="Verdana"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana">Now,
we have implemented some suppport packages (SP stack 18) and we now can no
longer save the changes.</span></font></p>
<p><font size="2" face="Verdana"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana"> </span></font></p>
<p><font size="2" face="Verdana"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana">Does
anyone know where this setting can be changes so we can edit the organizational
model in a productive system wihtout transports?</span></font></p>
<p><font size="2" face="Verdana"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana"> </span></font></p>
<p><font size="2" face="Verdana"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana">Kind
regards,</span></font></p>
<p><font size="2" face="Verdana"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana">Robert</span></font></p>
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