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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Yea,
probably why I never used them. Nice reminder though. I guess if I ever need to
check one simple flag on an object like block record or something I would use
it. But then again, I didn't see any option "if other wf already exists,
don't start new…" <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Berry,
did this answer your question? You solve your issue?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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sap-wug-bounces@mit.edu [mailto:sap-wug-bounces@mit.edu] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Rick
Bakker<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, November 08, 2010 2:50 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> SAP Workflow Users' Group<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: Workflow Start Conditions<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>You can't get much simpler than Start Conditions! Click,
enter condition, save!<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>By the way, if the Start
Condition is inactive you can see it by the button being grey instead of green
or red in SWDD.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 7:29 AM, Sample, Rick <<a
href="mailto:Rick.Sample@graybar.com">Rick.Sample@graybar.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='color:black'>I never use Start Conditions. After reading last post, I
recall looking at this many years ago. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='color:black'>I have used CFM since the beginning. Any advantages to
using this over simple CFM?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style='color:black'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt'> <a
href="mailto:sap-wug-bounces@MIT.EDU" target="_blank">sap-wug-bounces@MIT.EDU</a>
[mailto:<a href="mailto:sap-wug-bounces@MIT.EDU" target="_blank">sap-wug-bounces@MIT.EDU</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Rick Bakker<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, November 08, 2010 2:06 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> SAP Workflow Users' Group<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: Workflow Start Conditions</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Hi
Berry,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>What
is probably happening is that the Start Condition itself is not active. To see
this, go to tx SWB_COND and look for your start condition - if you created it
via SWDD then it will be in there with the workflow's number (WS....) attached
to it. If it you see a red square then it's not active. Happens sometimes.
Click on it to make it green.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>When
you delete it and it still appears to be there - did you do a SWU_OBUF?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>regards<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Rick
Bakker<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'>hanabi
technology<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>On
Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 2:38 AM, Sample, Rick <<a
href="mailto:Rick.Sample@graybar.com" target="_blank">Rick.Sample@graybar.com</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='color:#0070C0'>Hi Berry,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='color:#0070C0'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='color:#0070C0'>Need more information. Not sure if I completely
understand your meanings like start condition, clean up, delete, criteria, etc.
</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='color:#0070C0'>A little vague you see. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='color:#0070C0'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='color:#0070C0'>Start condition? Meaning check function module? Start
events just says, on this event, start. No conditions on that screen that I
know of anyway. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='color:#0070C0'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='color:#0070C0'>If you have a WF with something like bus2032.CREATED with
no CFM, it will start. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='color:#0070C0'>If you have a CFM assigned and whatever you are
evaluating does not raise WF off, it will start. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='color:#0070C0'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='color:#0070C0'>What client you dev and testing in? If you develop in say
RD0-110 and test in 120, you must SCC1 the type linkage to that client. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='color:#0070C0'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='color:#0070C0'>How are you testing? SWLD and triggering or via an actual
event from something like a sales order change? </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style='color:#0070C0'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='color:#0070C0'>More than happy to help, just need more info.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt'> <a
href="mailto:sap-wug-bounces@MIT.EDU" target="_blank">sap-wug-bounces@MIT.EDU</a>
[mailto:<a href="mailto:sap-wug-bounces@MIT.EDU" target="_blank">sap-wug-bounces@MIT.EDU</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Berry Martin<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, November 08, 2010 9:01 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:sap-wug@MIT.EDU" target="_blank">sap-wug@MIT.EDU</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Workflow Start Conditions</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>Having some issues with workflow start conditions and
need some recommendations.</span> <br>
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<span style='font-size:10.0pt'>For some reason, the start condition does not
appear to be working. When I look at the definition in SWDD->Basic
Data ->Start Events, I see the condition. When I open the conditions
and test them in the editor, they are evaluated properly (meaning it reads the
data correctly and gives the appropriate response). When I kick off the
event, using data that should not pass the start condition, the workflow starts
... almost like it did not have a start condition.</span> <br>
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<span style='font-size:10.0pt'>The approach I have been trying to take is to
delete the start condition and start over. Some that is concerning me is
that even though I remove the start condition from SWDD->Basic Data
->Start Events, when I click on the condition button/box, I still see all
the start condition criteria ... almost like something is not getting cleaned
up when I am deleting.</span> <br>
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<span style='font-size:10.0pt'>I know this is a little vague, but any ideas for
trouble shooting will be welcomed.</span> <br>
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<span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Thanks,</span> <br>
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