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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Hi Michael, Sandy,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Excellent questions, excellent
points.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span
style='color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>1)<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style='color:black'>I run SWU3 in each
environment as it becomes available to schedule the background jobs, assign the
WF Admin, etc. Takes less than 10 minutes – should be done in Dev,QA,PRD after
the upgrade, when Basis allows you in.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span
style='color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>2)<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style='color:black'>Sure, run SWU_Obuf –
or wait for the Cinderella Effect (past midnight, everything gets refreshed)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span
style='color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>3)<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style='color:black'>I do generate each BOR
object after the upgrade as I go from Dev – QA – PRD, after Checking them
first!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span
style='color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>4)<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style='color:black'>SWUD on each workflow –
test environment – Consistency check for components (including subworkflows)
should help you sort the wheat from the chaff as well.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span
style='color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>5)<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style='color:black'>Agent assignments for
General Tasks are transportable, I believe, but my Basis friends let me do it ‘the
workflow way’. Then they shut me out.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Michael, I sympathize! I had
heard from another organization about WF Train Wrecks – and in our case, we
were fortunate that we were able to encourage our users to complete almost all
workitems prior to the upgrade. Since we had upgraded from EBP 3.5 to SRM 5.0
Extended Classic just 1.5 years prior, our users were sympathetic to this, and
weekly reports provided them with insight as to how many outstanding workflows
they had. However, we are a relatively small shop – although our workflow
footprint is quite large. We have no SAP-delivered workflows running, but
plenty of custom ones. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>You do need to:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo3'><![if !supportLists]><span
style='color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>1<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style='color:black'>The first bullet in
the SAP document does say ‘Complete all running workflow instances’ - So
really try to convince your business people of this. You can, if necessary,
report on workflows in process at the time of the upgrade, and perhaps kill
them, and manually start new workflows after the upgrade? As I said, it
depends on your business.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo3'><![if !supportLists]><span
style='color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>2<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style='color:black'>Check each custom
workflow – you will probably need to do ‘Block Correction’ on each one. You
will probably have more DDIC and binding corrections too – which goes right
back to #1.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo4'><![if !supportLists]><span
style='color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>3)<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style='color:black'>Absolutely test previously
started (if you must) and freshly-started (after upgrade) workflows as you
move thru Dev and QA. This will help you prepare for the oncoming train </span><span
style='font-family:Wingdings'>J</span><span style='color:black'>. You will
probably be able to form a plan for addressing any workflows that look as
though they are going south – and this will almost certainly be the ones that
were running prior to upgrade. It’s also helpful to document each test -
which workflow acted flukey, what the resolution was, so you can refer back to
it, and share it with your other WF folks.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>If you do read and use the
document (upgrading SAP Business Workflow from SAP 4.6c to SAP ERP 6.0) please
do rate it – it is only when people see that e-learnings are used and helpful
that they are encouraged to create more. Which is a good thing for all of us!
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'><a
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
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sap-wug-bounces@mit.edu [mailto:sap-wug-bounces@mit.edu] <b>On Behalf Of </b>michael.mcley@daimler.com<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, November 02, 2010 10:20 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> sap-wug@mit.edu<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: Workflow Upgrade 4.6C to ECC6 - manual settings during
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<span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Sandy,</span><br>
<br>
<span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>I'm sorry I
cannot answer your specific questions below (I only have intermediate WF
skillz). However, each of your points sounds reasonable and shouldn't
take too long to check and see if it is necessary once you have an upgraded
test system to work with. The real experts here can probably provide you
with better feedback.</span><br>
<br>
<span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>I only wanted
to make the point that we upgraded to ECC 6.0 roughly 1.5 years ago, and many
of our workflows were trainwrecks afterward. In fact it was at that point
that I really learned workflow as just about every custom workflow we use broke
after the upgrade. Granted I work in a heavily customized environment
(the land of 'Z'...) so I don't think this was so much a problem with SAP
products, but of our own making. Incidentally, we didn't seem to have any
problems with pure out-of-the-box SAP supplied workflows (which we mostly use
in HR).</span><br>
<br>
<span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>In any case,
from my own experience (if I ever had to do this again), I would:</span><br>
<span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>1. Pay
particular attention to agent determination, especially if you are using custom
agent determination rules and techniques</span><br>
<span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>2. Seperate
testing for new workflow instances versus existing instances (those workflow
instances that already are running at the time of the upgrade). Most of
the problems we experienced were with already-running workflows - of which
there were hundreds.</span><br>
<br>
<span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>The 2 areas
where we experienced the most problems were with travel approval and incoming
invoice processing, which for us, are almost entirely custom everything
(objects, events, programs, you name it...).</span><br>
<br>
<span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Just a friendly
FYI, nothing more.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><b><span style='font-size:13.5pt;color:olive'>Michael
McLey</span></b><span style='color:olive'><br>
MBUSI - IT Parts & Administration </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
color:olive'><br>
Mercedes-Benz US International, Inc.<br>
1 Mercedes Drive</span><span style='color:olive'> </span><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:olive'><br>
Vance, AL 35490</span><span style='color:olive'> </span><span style='font-size:
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PHONE: (205) 462 - 5239</span><span style='color:olive'> </span><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:olive'><br>
EMAIL: michael.mcley@daimler.com</span><span style='color:olive'>
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<span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Hello Guys,<br>
<br>
We are upgrading to ECC 6 from 4.6C and we are on release 701 & support
pack SAPKB70106.<br>
<br>
I would like to know which are the "<b>Manual activities</b>" that
needs to done during cutover and <b>WHEN</b> should these should be done (eg.
before ECC6 upgade, or after ECC6 upgrade but before config/dev transports, or
after config/dev transports).<br>
<br>
I have looked on few threads and found the following info. Please correct me or
add extra info if i have missed something:<br>
<br>
1. Configure RFC destination & other mandatory options in
Transaction SWU3.<br>
2. Run Transaction SWU_OBUF to clear the runtime buffers before users start
Testing.<br>
<br>
I assume rest of changes would be imported with transports, but i have read
through lot of SDN threads that <b>all custom Workflow definitions needs to be
ACTIVATED in each system (DEV - QAS- PRD)</b> and <b>custom BOR objects needs
be REGENERATED in each system (DEV - QAS- PRD).</b> Also, do I have manually <b>set
the agent assignement for Customer Task as GENERAL TASK</b> in each system? Are
above stated 3 steps needs to be manually done in each system or transports
take care of them ? I am bit confused. Could anybody please advise me regarding
the <b>Manual Task/activities that needs to done in each system during cutover
during WF upgrade from 4.6 C to ECC6.</b><br>
<br>
Thanks for posting excellent stuff regarding the Workflow Upgrades on this
mailing list. It really helped me in resolving most of my issues.<br>
<br>
Thanks in advance<br>
<br>
Kind Regards<br>
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<i>Regards</i> <br>
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<b><i>Sandy</i></b><br>
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