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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Hi Will,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>This is no doubt something we
will all be struggling to grasp in the nearer future (for those of us who have
not already grasped it, which certainly includes me).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>As far as I know, SAP’s
party line is that Workflow will continue to be the engine of choice within an
SAP system (also please refer to BestBuiltApps, at <a
href="http://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/sdn/bestbuiltapps?rid=/library/uuid/d0619693-ce8f-2c10-07b5-fc222ad36370">http://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/sdn/bestbuiltapps?rid=/library/uuid/d0619693-ce8f-2c10-07b5-fc222ad36370</a>)
– I have extracted the relevant passage here:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><span style='font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:#33BBFF'>Business Process Modeling<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><i><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Georgia-BoldItalic","serif";color:black'>SOA-BPM-2. SAP recommends
that ISVs use SAP NetWeaver BPM<o:p></o:p></span></i></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><i><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Georgia-BoldItalic","serif";color:black'>for business process
modeling. SAP also recommends that ISVs use<o:p></o:p></span></i></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><i><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Georgia-BoldItalic","serif";color:black'>the<b> </b></span><b><span
style='color:black'>SAP Business Workflow tool for workflows within a pure,
ABAP<o:p></o:p></span></b></i></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><b><i><span style='color:black'>single-instance
application</span></i></b><i><span style='color:black'>.</span></i><i><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Georgia-BoldItalic","serif";color:black'>
SAP does not recommend using:<o:p></o:p></span></i></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><i><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Georgia-BoldItalic","serif";color:black'>SAP Business Connector,
which </span></i><i><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Georgia-BoldItalic","serif";
color:#33BBFF'>• </span></i><i><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Georgia-BoldItalic","serif";color:black'>has been retired and<o:p></o:p></span></i></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><i><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Georgia-BoldItalic","serif";color:black'>replaced with
functionality in SAP NetWeaver<o:p></o:p></span></i></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><i><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Georgia-BoldItalic","serif";color:#33BBFF'>• </span></i><i><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Georgia-BoldItalic","serif";color:black'>Workflow
Modeler, except for ISV solutions that enhance<o:p></o:p></span></i></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><i><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Georgia-BoldItalic","serif";color:black'>SAP CRM<o:p></o:p></span></i></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><i><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Georgia-BoldItalic","serif";color:#33BBFF'>• </span></i><i><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Georgia-BoldItalic","serif";color:black'>SAP
NetWeaver Business Warehouse process chains<o:p></o:p></span></i></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><i><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Georgia-BoldItalic","serif";color:black'>(process chains are
recommended for loading but not for<o:p></o:p></span></i></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><i><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Georgia-BoldItalic","serif";color:black'>workflow)<o:p></o:p></span></i></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><i><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Georgia-BoldItalic","serif";color:#33BBFF'>• </span></i><i><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Georgia-BoldItalic","serif";color:black'>SAP
NetWeaver MDM workflow<o:p></o:p></span></i></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><i><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Georgia-BoldItalic","serif";color:#33BBFF'>• </span></i><i><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Georgia-BoldItalic","serif";color:black'>Java
ad-hoc workflows<o:p></o:p></span></i></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:black'>For more information on business
process modeling, go to </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"ArialMT","sans-serif";
color:black'>http://www.sdn.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"ArialMT","sans-serif";
color:black'>sap.com/irj/sdn/nw-processmodeling</span><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:black'>.</span><span
style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>We in the workflow community
(ASUG and SCN for me) are working with some BPM folks to get more educational
material out – and to bridge this gap, if only in perception. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>I will be monitoring this
discussion closely – and value the opinions of this varied group.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Sue<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas'>---<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas'>Susan R.
Keohan<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas'>SAP
Workflow Specialist<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas'>MIT
Lincoln Laboratory<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas'>244 Wood
Street<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas'>LI-200<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas'>Lexington,
MA. 02420<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas'>Phone:
781-981-3561<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas'>Fax:
781-981-1607<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas'><a
href="mailto:keohan@ll.mit.edu"><span style='color:blue'>keohan@ll.mit.edu</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'>
<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>
sap-wug-bounces@mit.edu [mailto:sap-wug-bounces@mit.edu] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Will
Weiss<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, June 01, 2010 10:31 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> sap-wug@mit.edu<br>
<b>Subject:</b> SAP workflows and BPM<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Hi experts,<br>
<br>
I'm familiar with SAP business workflow, but I understand there is a product
called NetWeaver BPM (as appears here <a
href="http://www.brsilver.com/2009/01/21/netweaver-bpm-and-saps-bpm-strategy/"
target="_blank">http://www.brsilver.com/2009/01/21/netweaver-bpm-and-saps-bpm-strategy/</a>).
Here's the differences as I figured out so far (my main source was SAP's site
on it, <a
href="http://www.sap.com/platform/netweaver/components/sapnetweaverbpm/index.epx"
target="_blank">http://www.sap.com/platform/netweaver/components/sapnetweaverbpm/index.epx</a>)<br>
1) SAP business workflow is ABAP based, Netweaver BPM is Java Based<br>
2) Model in SAP business workflow is done in SDD, in Netweaver BPM there's an
eclipse plugin, and the model is based on BPMN.<br>
<br>
The main questions that I have are:<br>
1) Are there any other differences?<br>
2) Which product is "better" (and what do you call "better"
:-) )<br>
3) How common is Netweaver BPM compared to SAP business workflow?<br>
4) Is SAP's future in Netweaver BPM or in SAP business workflow?<br>
5) Which version of Netweaver includes NetWeaver BPM? Is it a basic component
of Netweaver, or an additional product?<br>
<br>
Thanks and regards,<br>
Will<o:p></o:p></p>
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